I think Light would figure out Bruce Wayne is Batman and would kill him only for Dick to take on the mantle of Batman and finish the job with the help of the bat family. Thoughts?
I think Light would figure out Bruce Wayne is Batman and would kill him only for Dick to take on the mantle of Batman and finish the job with the help...
Isn't this basically just what happened in Death Note?
I mean yeah I agree he could do that, but it'd be boring
All your creativity and you came up with this shitty shit?
Well if L was also a player I think he’d work against Batman and it would add to the dynamic. But Light would definitely kill Bruce Wayne and then when Dick takes over he’d probably be like oh shit I killed an innocent guy.
>Light would definitely kill Bruce Wayne
But he's not a criminal, no reason to kill him.
It would be revealed that DN can't kill Batman and instead sends him to the distant future for a weekend
FBI agents weren't criminals. Neither was Naomi Misora. L- debatable, but he never killed anyone. Light disposes of anyone who's actually threatens his plan or becomes useless to it
>Light disposes of anyone who's actually threatens his plan or becomes useless to it
This, literally as soon as the second episode when "L" revealed his intentions to the world to catch Kira before he was revealed to be a death row inmate, Light killed him for simply being in his way.
L wasn’t a criminal but was against Kirra and his vision so he was a threat that needed to be stopped
>But he's not a criminal
Absolutely fuck all about how Batman is funded or operates is legal. He regularly commits financial, cyber, and property crimes and often engages in violence when legal exceptions for protecting himself or others wouldn't apply. He's also repeatedly assaulted fellow heroes when throwing bitchfits.
Also, he tried to kill KGBeast slowly and unprompted.
This is why I feel like if L was also in this scenario he wouldn’t help Batman at all. There would be 3 factions. The Batman(batfamily), L his task force, Kira. But ideally Batman takes the place of L.
neither was L and he basically admitted that he's really sad that light is gonna kill him. light was willing kill his entire family.
maybe read the story before commenting.
Would Light even know Batman is after him in the first place? His detective activities aren't public like L's were.
Light will kill anyone that threatens him and his crusade, even law enforcement.
>Light would definitely kill Bruce Wayne and then when Dick takes over he’d probably be like oh shit I killed an innocent guy.
No he wouldn't, he's a genius he'd know that Dick is just his next in line, he would never get to the point of killing him and then go "oopsie I guess I was wrong cause there's this other guy ): "
You're forgetting one thing to, Light couldn't kill L because nobody knew who L was except the police force and some very powerful people, and L methodically gave Light information when he knew the opportunity to use it would arise, letting everyone know that if he ever dies of mysterious circumstances, only Light could've done it
With Bruce, nobody in power knows who he is, only people close to him like Dick and Ronald the butler and stuff like that, the police don't personally know it, batman doesn't work with the cops, he just kinda tosses criminals at them and tells em to deal with it he's not really buddy buddy with em
That's true, Light might respect Bruce as a vigilante like him, but I suppose it is interesting to think of HOW he could kill him IF he ever felt the need to
>Ronald
Depends what the writer wants
>Light kills Bruce Wayne
>he still gets harassed by Batman because it is a personality completely separate from Bruce Wayne
>post-kira issues deals with Batman becoming more and more unhinged because Bruce (the "human" half) used to keep him in check
OP, don't be stupid, no matter how many times you write Bruce Wayne's name in the death note, nothing will happen, Batman will punch Light's face every night.
The debate of what constitutes a "real name" is an interesting one
Not only are there options for people to change their name, but some cultures don't even have legal names, or two part names, or names that can be written down at all
What if you live in some bumfuck African village and your name is *two tongue clicks and a slap on the knee* ? How do you write that?
The "a name that basically became theirs through social osmosis" theory doesn't work either, because if so, L's real name WOULD be L, that's what he's known as. Maybe it's about the name YOU accept, so L had the mental fortitude to never become L in his own mind, whereas we know Batman considers himself Batman first and foremost.
Although I personally had my own theory for that- every human has a name, a 'sound' that can be written down, in a sort of platonic heaven, and that word is what needs to be written down in order to kill them. It's not necessarily their legal name, but it ends up being the case anyway because every person's fate is to eventually be known by that ultimate name. If you change your name, you're not actually changing it FROM the ultimate name, you're changing into it, but if you use a temporary alias that's not the case, the name could be your old legal name, or it could be one you'll end up taking in the future anyway. It's always there, you don't know what it is, but you're always moving towards claiming it so you're never unkillable.
>Kira starts killing all criminals
>Batman at first is wary of it but soon sees how much better society is
>starts helping out Kira by using his detective skills to give out information on criminals who were never caught
>Kira starts killing "innocent" people
>by this point the entire world is on his side and sees it as them being bad people
>after every criminal on earth is dead batman appears in front of Kira
>Kira kills batman because a powerful vigilant like that isn't needed in the perfect world
>Kira dies from a poison batman released as soon as he died
>keikaku doori
>all vigilantes, all criminals and kira dead
>now the world can heal
I don’t think Batman would help Kira kill considering he doesn’t kill his own villains, anon
Yeah Batman literally has a no-kill rule
Light would kill Bruce on the spot. Bruce is mentally ill and would only cause problems. He’s the dirty spot on a clean plate.
I get the appeal of speculating with Batman however, if this is the full DC setting then this is something outside/beyond Batman's scope and instead it is someone like either Doctor Fate quickly quashing Light or Constantine gets the better of him.
This would be a self contained Batman thing meaning no other DC heroes or villains as it would be too messy
But I believe he can still interact with gotham's specific villains, right?
Yeah Gotham based villains would be a thing and maybe Raven at most as she has a connection with demon shit. Plus I ship Raven and Robin. Teehee
>maybe Raven
That would be a mistake, apart from it being arbitrary and ignoring whatever help Raven can bring, it just opens other characters to the point it is the entire DC setting. If you have Raven then, through both her and Nightwing, you may as well allow Starfire - and from that the other Titans. If non-Gotham resident Raven is allowed then what's there stopping Gotham-based and Batman connected Jason Blood?
Okay you’re right, no raven 🙁
Even if Light kills Batman (which says nothing about 1) how does Light learn the identity and 2) whether Bruce is Bruce or Batman) then all what will happen is Talia resurrects Bruce through the Lazarus Pit. A shocked Light wakes up one night to his hands being shattered by a man he thought dead.
>black L made the cut
>original L didn't
Probably just so they could put him in the "could not solve" column since he's such an absolute lunatic.
>Courage and Blue in the fail block
Joke chart, they'd obviously catch him
Honestly Death Note doesn't do enough to establish Light as the genius he supposedly is. The characters are always just saying how smart he is but he never really demonstrates it in any real way. The plot and universe bend over backwards to accommodate him unnaturally and we're supposed to take it as genius instead of contrivance.
A crossover would absolutely do that stupid thing where Light writes down "Bruce Wayne" and it doesn't work because he should have written "Batman"
Nah it would kill him but when Batman still shows up (Dick Grayson) it’ll throw him for a loop. Kira would also probably kill the major Batman villains before hand as they’d be in custody probably (except Joker who has no name) I’m the Joker would play a part in this taking advantage once he sees other baddies die off but he’s saved
Would Kira manipulate some of the villains instead of killing them? If I remember correctly he doesn't mind having bad guys as his minions knowing that he will kill them at the end.
That, like so many, questions depends on how smart you consider the characters to be. As another anon said, Light's actual intelligence is questionable. As for Batman villains... Batman (in the so called Batman Gambit) is able to predict/manipulate villains because of both his intelligence and experience with them individually & collectively, so even if Light is the genius Death Note treats him he does not have the proper understanding of how the villains think and act. Besides, there are certain Batman villains that are either too unpredictable and/or intelligent for Batman to fully predict/manipulate, and if Batman struggles Light is not going to be in a stronger position. At best Light just causes a nuisance for Batman, and if anything it may just inform Batman about Light and the Death Note.
>questions depends on how smart you consider the characters to be. As another anon said, Light's actual intelligence is questionable. As for Batman villains... Batman (in the so called Batman Gambit) is able to predict/manipulate villains because of both his intelligence and experience with them individually & collectively, so even if Light is the genius Death Note treats him he does not have the proper understanding of how the villains think and act.
It's not like batman or his villains are that intelligent either and their intelligence works as the plot dictates with very few concrete feats.
>and/or intelligent for Batman to fully predict/manipulate, and if Batman struggles Light is not going to be in a stronger position
Couldn't he just wait and choose one of the few favorable ones? He doesn't have to go for the most dangerous ones.
>At best Light just causes a nuisance for Batman, and if anything it may just inform Batman about Light and the Death Note.
He would still try to stay hidden just like in his own universe.
I think it would go kinda similar to DN, Bruce knows that Light knows who he is, but preps the situation that even if Light knows who Batman is, he can't kill him.
Would Light even be trying to kill him though? L literally went on TV and shouted to the world that he was pursuing Light. And Light was able to keep track of L's actions thanks to his connection to the Japanese police. But Batman would be stealthy, work on his own, and any contact Batman has with the police would go through Gordon who would keep it off the record. Realistically Light doesn't even realize Batman is after him until he crashes through his window and punches him in the face.
I’m sure he’d be aware that Batman is a thing considering all his feats in Gotham and taking down villains. I’m sure Kira would kill bunch of the villains Batman brought into custody and are behind bars the way he Kira killed criminals all over the world. If I’m not mistaken Kira even targeted Government Officials from all over who threatened him and his vision of peace.
Are we talking about any specific version of Batman?
A grounded and serious Batman seems like he would outsmart Light. On the other extreme an Adam West or Silver Age esque Batman would probably have an even greater chance. Composite Batman or even Batman in the vague general sense of the character is: effectively superhuman in term of physicality and intelligence, has some familiarity with the occult already, has huge resources at his disposal, operates covertly/semi-covertly, and is alone a one-man army that happens to be backed-up by several sidekicks. Light is outmatched by Batman both by how Batman is writen and the greater meme meta-power Batman commands.
Light wouldn't even know batman is on his tail until it's too late he wouldn't make the investigation a public ego match like L would
Batman isn't going to make a big show about chasing Light the way L did. Light thinks too highly of himself and wouldn't consider a weirdo on the other side of the world who dresses like a bat and punches criminals a threat until it's too late. Especially if we're going with an iteration of Batman who's basically an urban legend and not an established public figure.
No diff bat solo
>Light: Vic Sage......soon you will be out of my way--
>The Question busts in Light's room
>Question: CHARLES.
>Smashes Light head on the table
>Question: VICTOR.
>Punches him in the gut
>Question: SZAZAS
>Breaks his jaw
Batman dying from a heart attack is funny. Adds to his list of getting one shot
Light would not go after Batman unless Batman got close to him. It's not as if Light was going to kill the FBI agents until they were stalking him. I don't think any story would involve Light killing Bruce Wayne. Batman wins every time, otherwise what's the point of doing this cross-over? Batman solves mystery, catches Kira. Everybody goes home happy.
Did anyone else kinda realize Death Note is kinda a little bit Batman-ish to begin with?
L and Watari are like the anime Batman and Alfred, while Light and Misa are a bit like the Joker and Harley Quinn