And God damn is it hard to swallow.
GamingMagic13's TS4 review:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1dYLh4Lc_c
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And God damn is it hard to swallow.
GamingMagic13's TS4 review:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1dYLh4Lc_c
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Would be a good review if he wasn't realism nitpicking like a sperg.
Also we know it's you gamingmagic13.
op here, im actually the thiefposter. I saw the movie back when it came out and I loved it so much that i had tears behind my eyes watching the ending. I only now realize why TS4 is so bad.
Yeah, he gets the core issues as to why it's bad down. Just too bad he has to add on the typical cartoon reviewer sperg nonsense on top of that.
Wait, you needed a few hour video to tell you what was wrong with the movie? Didn't you see it yourself for the first time?
I saw it myself back in 2019 and i loved it. I never understood why everyone kept saying it sucked.
gamingmagic13 shilling himself and falseflag shills
You’re insane
>NOOOO EVERY YOUTUBE VIDEO IS LE SHILL
Didn't you get walloped enough on the smiling friends thread? Shut up homosexual
You are literally too dumb to live
Toy Story 4 sucks because it's status quo propaganda going aye goy travel to the big city and leave principals and values behind for something new and flashy.
This dickheads review's are something a kindergartener with autism would come up with. Stop analyzing films like this.
that shit sucks and too fricking nitpicky, this one better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUWysxmrp24
> review is longer than the movie
why do you watch this?
I tried watching the first of those videos because I agree TS4 was awful but it was just so annoying to sit through. It's like those dumb MauLer videos where they pick out every little detail in the movie to complain about, most of which do't matter in the slightest.
This, TS4 is pretty bad but this review is boring
>1 hour
Stop shilling your channel homosexual. Nobody needs to watch your shit video to know Toy Story sucks
It's a movie about toys being afraid of being replaced by imagination and creativity. kinda sad
>Toy Story 5
>it's about toys dealing with being replaced by Fortnite
That's how they thought the 4th was going to be
Movie is good, you should be able to retire. Let it go, get over it.
A youtuber is a person with thoughts and opinions just as much as anyone else, the only difference is a video with lots of views = a microphone. To me, to be truly more credible than most people the individual must have a good set of knowledge of how good and bad storytelling works, a good set of knowledge of the movie or series in question and a good deal of critical thinking and reasoning. To have all of that in one is very rare.
One of the problems I have with this review is when he criticises Forky pretending not to be alive. The difference is that Forky KNOWS he's a spork, unlike Buzz that thought he was a real space ranger. The explanation in the video about why Buzz pretends to be a toy is not good either. All of it is from the sequels and that's not what the creators had in mind when making the first one. Buzz pretending to be a toy has always been a big plot hole in a still great movie.
>, unlike Buzz that thought he was a real space ranger. The explanation in the video about why Buzz pretends to be a toy is not good either. All of it is from the sequels and that's not what the creators had in mind when making the first one. Buzz pretending to be a toy has always been a big plot hole
Yeah, it could be explained until Woody mentioned some kind of code they were following, it was a massive frick up.
They never explained why Buzz are the only toys that think they are real.
Or why they can't remember any moment they are treated like toys nor care about the giant humans.
They did. Every newly opened Buzz comes like that, so we can assume that this is something every toy has gone through. Other toys have to explain to them that they are toys or they know
>But how does Buzz know to freeze when Andy arrives?
The new Buzzes were frozen until they are awakened by something. It's probably a natural reflex for toys, and they have to learn to move when they're first made.
>They did. Every newly opened Buzz comes like that
They don't, that's why other toys were confused by his behaviour
In the Toy Story 3 sequel shorts they show that other toys think to be their original character ones, seems it's something that modern toys do like those dinosaur humanoid action figures
I still can't believe woody said hoes before bros
there's no way this video should be longer than 20 minutes you "people" need to get over yourselves
The idea of Woody wanting to retire is fine. Problem is, that retirement doesn't fit the toy story universe.
Especially with the way they did it where it just looks like he was seething from no being played with and abandoning his friends for pussy
It really felt like he wen't "ok the villains were all right but they were jerks lol"
Toys are totally welcome to make their own choices. Prospector isn’t evil for wanting to be immortalized in a museum, and Lotso isn’t evil for wanting security, they’re evil for forcing and hurting other toys.
>dude you have to do one job your entire life and just because you had a crisis where you ultimately decided to stay with the person who needed you, over a decade ago before they left, you have to do the job forever even for other people who don’t need you. You can’t retire, you can’t find worth outside of this, you can’t even stick around on a shelf without becoming some sad dusty thing just absolutely broken because you’re ‘abandoned’. There is no life except eternal service hopping between temporary ‘toying’ jobs, the price of failure to transplant yourself into a new human’s life as an inanimate object, is utter desolation. As a person, you abandoned all your toys to Hell, they’re out there wondering where master is and shaking in a fetal position buried underneath the dump, if not tortured by some other toys or burned in a pit.
Toy Story 4 is a relief. I appreciate the other movies’ themes of loyalty and friendship and the magic times people have, 1 and 2 and maybe 3 are timeless and great, but the whole concept has built into something hopeless. Like the whole thing relies on this terror of being alone, and let’s face it without some other development, every toy was going there. If you have to make toy story 4, adding the option of retirement and life after service is a natural and well-needed theme. Though the original stories remain true and deeply meaningful, they became so pessimistic about the world. Toy Story 4 is a sensible relief
Wow, you just said nearly nothing and the little you said contradict itself but you artificially tried to make the comment look bigger than it actually is by repeating yourself.
All I said was that the option for retirement and life outside of taking care of children is liberating and welcome. What’s the problem? Yeah you have your family and maybe you get another one too but eventually it’s appropriate to live your own life when the job is done. Where is the issue here
Hey mr director, would you stop tryibg go defend your shitty movie? Snd if its true that you and your indoctrinated activists lied about lasseter to kick him out and steal his dough so you can "reshape (ruin) it"
Pointless frickin meme lol, always lying to yourself some creator is here talking to you. The movie is alright, you can take it or leave it, but the series isn’t about creating new serious moral laws for toys to obey, it’s about relationships and figuring out new stages of life
Toy Story 3 covered that too, it wasn't the ending but a start of a new begin and it's implied the cycle will happen again until they will get trashed and the better way to enjoy your life is to be there for the people that needs you and also look after yourself without being a loner
Right but also for the toys eventually no one plays with, who don’t get handed down forever (because the vast majority of toys don’t), you can be alive and happy with the other toys who’ve reached that point. You’re right 3 has a good resolution, it’s just they had it by that point where every little place outside of a kid’s room is the domain of some tortured maniac who has a sadistic and abusive plan to trap you for eternity.
Then the movie should have literally been Bo Peep's own adventure where she finds that retirement without cutting in on the resolution of the third movie (it's better to be together with your friends than go off alone, the choice Woody makes to go with Bonnie than Andy and stay with all the other toys). Woody leaving the others when he wasn't thrown away or sold thanks to Bonnie not being interested in him is like an anti-resolution to his choice in 3, and it doesn't help that Buzz wasn't allowed to be his voice of reason in 4 like he was in 2 regarding this dumbass choice in the first place.
I guess that making a whole movie of the struggles Bo would have gone through to where she finally found her purpose would have been too much of a risk for Pixar to do. I would have watched it if Bo started off like how she was in TS1/2 as a more passive character who through her thoughtfulness to other toys and inspiration from the adventures Woody and Buzz went on made her come into her own rather than her getting a personality makeover right out of the gate to be at the same level of pro-activity as Jessie of all people.
But Bo Peep and all the people in that town are friends too, Woody didn’t leave so he could be crystallized in some case or be alone with abusers or just no one. He has his friends and he lived a life with them and he can move on to be with other old friends and some new ones in a friendly community. There’s not really a contradiction with 3
An analysis someone made that I saw:
Woody from Toy Story 1: No one's getting replaced, this is Andy we're talking about. It doesn't matter how much we're played with. What matters is that we're there for Andy when he needs us and thats what we're made for right?
Toy Story 1: No one's getting replaced, this is Andy we're talking about.
Toy Story 2: It doesn't matter how much we're played with.
Toy Story 3: What matters is that we're there for Andy when he needs us.
Toy Story 4: And thats what we're made for right?
Toy Story 1 was about Woody realising that he's not going to be replaced by Buzz, and that they both have a place in Andy's heart. Toy Story 2 was about learning not to worry about how much time they have left with Andy and that it will be fun while it lasts. Toy Story 3 was about realising that Andy doesn't need them in his life anymore and that it's time to let go. Toy Story 4 was about their purpose in life as a toy, to be who you are right now in this moment.
It sucks, Toy Story 4 is almost as bad as Toy Story 3 that is a lazy copy of Toy Story 2 that was pointless sequel
Toy Story 4 contradict the message of the previous 2 movies and makes the 2 villains of the previous movie right, in fact the toys under Lotso were in a far better situation than the ones in 4, if you watch the 4 movies together the whole story is absolutely ridiculous.
To be more specific, the toys under Lotso were protected, safe and organized, they don't have to worry about anything and have more freedom, attention and space than any regular toy in a family house, the toys in 4 can't realistically last long under their current situation that is just a worse version of Lotso vision.
Pfft okay so you’re just into a mafia because it’s organized. Why not just have a community of friends that doesn’t manipulate a day care economy to hurt some to help themselves?
He was harsh to the ones who threatened to frick up his utopia but the toyw under his care had a life infitely better than what Woody and his friends got, he was objectively in the right due to TS4 and predicted the entire sequel.
Lotso was exploiting, imprisoning, dismembering, and demoralizing toys just for his own position of comfort.
So why are toddlers bad for them? Are the only kids who will still play with this kind of thing
It’s exploitative and abusive that Lotso personally selects toys to forever remain in ‘the bad room’ just so him and his people would never have to, forcing toys to live an entirely bad life so he can live an entirely good one. However at the end of the day, materially what happened is that a group of toys simply fought back for being put in that position
I don't think older kids would be more careful, but they found a new Andy in the end and everything turned out fine.
In the story the older kids were better. They were shown not to hurt the toys (in real life they still would though)
Point being, given what was shown in the film, Lotso was sending people to Hell so he could live in Heaven, instead of simply taking the good with the bad
Yep, however pointless violence aside his logic was perfect, if you need to force a villain to be a jerk for no reason related to his ideology to make him look wrong then you fricked up and now Woody and his girlfriend will fall apart with no functional civilization or resources.
Well yeah of course he has logic, it’s logical to kill someone you’ve dealt drugs to in order to prevent his overdose from tracing back to you, logic is pretty easy and not that impressive, The Prospector had logic too. The issue is that Lotso demanded maximum comfort and forced lives of pain on people just so he wouldn’t have to rotate into the bad room sometimes
The entire bad room part never made much sense to the movie nor was related to his main goals or personal arc, besides his body was too old and frail to resist it anyway so it's not like they would pressure him to go.
Yeah it was, Lotso designated toys the good room based on loyalty to him and used the rest of them as fodder for the bad room, and he uses it as his personal prison. He also reset Buzz’ personality. Guy is an abuser for power
No there wans't, there was never a need for him to do any of that, wanna leave? good luck without plot armor. Nearly all toys agreed to go to the toddlers sometimes so no problem
You can’t leave, Lotso runs extreme security and has a team of enforcers as well as a schizoid monkey watching the cameras at all hours, he tried to kill the toys for leaving. And yes he did force toys into the bad room and there were entire characters who had been forced into the bad room for life and hated it
That's the point there was no need to do any of that other than plot, any toy would never be able to find a home and would be thrown in the trash by some human
Well the plot is about how anger at abandonment can corrupt a person into abusing others by demanding too much power and security. You’re right though it doesn’t have to happen that way, and you’re right TS4 is great because it does away with these maniac characters and shows how you could be a peaceful retired toy without there being some problem
>Bonnie, I stopped here to take a look at how my toy collection, that I trusted you to take care of, is going
>Well looks like they're all here-wait
>Where is Woody? Yeah Woody, my most precious toy and last gift of my father before his passing, where did you hide it?
He will hatefrick Bonnie calling her Woody
This is the gayest most childish post about this movie and the idea that adult age people agree with its sentiment is laughable
>He missed the Andy visits Bonnie threads
Trying not dmto do spoiler but there's a scene in stranger things last season (for now) that made me hate Toy Story 3.
The older sister is off to college packing, going through boxes of what she wants to keep. Comes across her old stuff animal, she hugs it showing she still had love for it.
The mom ask if she wants to taje it to college, she thinks about for a second but then gives the stuff animal back saying the stuff animal will he happy with a new kid that can actually appreciate it, ajd gives it up for charity.
The idea Andy of Andy taking Woody to college is so stupid. I hate how much time the movie takes for that decision.
>Nooo u can't take a collection item to college so everyone will frick to have the privielege to touch it
Kys
The thing is, it just isn't guaranteed or realistic to think that the toys would be together forever. They will be separated eventually somehow. New owners will enter their individual lives just like how it was for Bo Peep.
Totally, I agree.
Bump! But seriously what’s the idea you can’t have stages of your life? Everything is like some eternal vow? I’m pretty sure Toy Story is about figuring out how to deal with things appropriately as they come, and adjusting to change, not about establishing some permanent toy discipline
What are you guys talking about? Toy story ended at 3. There is no Toy Story 4. Bo peep? She was gone in 3, wasn't she? Are you guys okay?
They defamed Jhon Lasseter for this piece of dogshit, and when you look at the "person" behind this new one, you can tell these people are insidious.
No Pixar sequel is good.
Dory was good enough
Josh Cooley is an actual confirmed cuckold that let's his wife whip and abuse him and I'm surprised this fact is never brought up, explains a lot about the characterization of Bo.
he shall own nothing and be happy
What is it about Toy Story that attracts such a specific and OCD variety of autism
Toys in general attracts such a specific and OCD variety of autism.
Look at /toy/