I was wrong

Just finished watching Shogun
I had avoided it as I was convinced it would be Hollywood DEI slop

I was completely wrong
It's was actually pretty kino
Set design and costumes were great for TV budget
Casting was very good
Enjoyed Englishman character and his "What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?" outbursts

Didn't notice a single forced DEI casting or script point throughout.
No hollywood race politics or rainbow flag bullshit
No replacing Japanese actresses with Zendaya or similar

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Didn't notice a single forced DEI casting
    The actor playing an Englishman is Armenian in whiteface and blue contacts

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The blue contacts were really distracting yeah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Desperate stretch to claim that as DEI casting
      His father is British and he grew up here.
      And he's playing a protestant merchantman sailing under a Dutch flag
      Casting is spot on for that role.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        for you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Listen to this Anglo seethe.
      Armenians are the true Aryans.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it. However, the show runners were pretty adamant about not having this be a "white savior" story and it's pretty evident with how Blackthorne is sidelined a lot during the show. It mainly focused on Mariko.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's an adaptation of an adaptation of a book where he doesn't he do anything either.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean even in the book he’s really just a pawn in this big complicated political conflict between two lords. He has his own agenda but it ends up getting sidelined as he ends up falling in with Torunaga. He’s essentially a walking plot device in both versions of the story.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He gets laid a lot more in the book. His bwc is basically its own character and even gets a round of applause from a group of villagers when they see it.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OMG i just watched le show weeks after everyone is done talking about it
    >and it was as le based, it had cool samurais and ninjas
    >and my favourite WMAF kindo
    cant wait for season 2 bros

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > OMG i just watched le show weeks after everyone is done talking about it

      Literally the point of the thread you illiterate wienerwomble

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick does DEI mean?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      divide et impera

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And why did you expect anyone to know what that acronym is?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Diversity, equity, and inclusion are three closely linked values held by many organizations that are working to be supportive of different groups of individuals, including people of different races, ethnicities, religions, abilities, genders, and sexual orientations.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And once again why do you think you can make up an acronym and expect anyone to know what your talking about?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ~~*They*~~ made it up not me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you just immediately start using it? That's even worse

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically based, I'm stealing this, thanks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Darkies Everywhere, Innit?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't earn it

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nothing happens: the show (in japanese!)
    Well, I like it, but it has at least 2 more episodes than it should

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Set design and costumes were great for TV budget
    it was a high budget series and half the sets looked soulless and barren

    they made japan look like a grim desolate wasteland

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > japan
      Didn’t help that that Japan was British Columbia

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    something can still be shit without DEI sadly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anjin was DEI

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        small beer relatively speaking

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t know, why wasn’t the Shogun half-Armenian?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not only did they refuse to cast brack people, but they also removed a gay scene from the book.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anjin is black

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you mentally unstable or simply have terrible eyesight?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t need contacts to have blue eyes
          Check out the actor’s real hair and skin color, he is a shitskin

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DEI
    Damn, morons learnt a new acronym

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, Blackrock changed the name. It used to be ESG.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        always good to see the peasants adopt the linguo of their masters so quickly

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You gotta learn how the chains are forged to break them.
          Okay, I'm a fairly right wing kinda guy... but I also think those at the top have corrupted capitalism in horrible ways. I am not down with the lefties, but I like this comic illustrating how certain powerful cabals like to keep workers fighting among themselves about stupid race shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You gotta learn how the chains are forged to break them.
            No, adopting the Newspeak means you are submitting to it, even if you don't realize it. I think the first step in getting free of the quagmire that's been internet discourse for the past ten years is freeing oneself from all the nomenclature

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I agree with that when it comes to all this pronoun bullshit, but when you are trying to point out how the system works and how these people are controlling studios, I think highlighting the terms they use among each other helps whistleblow how they make the sausage.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The races have fundamentally different interests due to different innate ability. Capitalists do exploit this, but certain populations are still better off as tools in the capitalist divide-and-conquer game than they would be on their own, so they will never help overthrow the system.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the frick is DEI?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >

      Diversity, equity, and inclusion are three closely linked values held by many organizations that are working to be supportive of different groups of individuals, including people of different races, ethnicities, religions, abilities, genders, and sexual orientations.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a form of workplace discrimination that hasn't been stamped out yet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mandatory non-whites shitting up everything and everywhere

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of the biggest investment firms invests in Hollywood studios that commit to "Diversity, equity, and inclusion ". Somehow a giant wall street firm is pushing leftist identity politics. Probably as a ruse to con leftist idiots to fall in line with Wall Street.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a continued reaction to occupy wall street

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was typical Hollywood "everything is grey and has a weird lense over it" bullshit. Watch the original series or even better, read the book.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > he thinks I take instructions from the wienerwombles of Cinemaphile

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't be bothered to even begin to look up which streaming service is available in my non-US country for this. Plus frick streaming quality, the banding around dark colors and general artifacting will distract me, I don't have a 48" OLED monitor for no reason.

    where do I get torrents for shows? last one I watched was BB a decade ago and forgot how I got my hands on it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is that gif from?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just watched the first episode. Loved the interactions between the english man and richard alpert rodriguez.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > It's was actually pretty kino

    It wasn't bad but it could have easily been better and it appears to have been a success, so I'm guessing they'll adapt Clavell's novel "Tai-Pan" next.

    > Set design and costumes were great for TV budget

    The costumes were nice but the sets were lame, everything was a rain soaked forest even 10' outside of Osaka but my understanding was that she show had to be filmed in Canada because of covid and thus the production couldn't use the frickloads of existing medieval Japanese sets available in Japan.

    Also, the weird fisheye lens and blue tint to everything was annoying.

    > Casting was very good

    I thought Mariko was kinda weird looking but she's American and they needed an actress who could speak both Japanese and English.

    > Enjoyed Englishman character and his "What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?" outbursts

    They really dropped the ball here. The original story is centered around Blackthorne and his fish-out-of-water situation but the new tv series sidelined him to focus on stronk grrl Mariko who don't need no gaijin.

    > Didn't notice a single forced DEI casting or script point throughout.

    Well, it's set in medieval Japan, so.

    > No hollywood race politics or rainbow flag bullshit

    Blackthorne being forced to adjust to Japanese society is kinda "race politics" but they's an integral part of the story.

    > No replacing Japanese actresses with Zendaya or similar

    Thank Budda for that!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol at all the illiterate mutts getting upset at a new acronym because it means they have to use up their only free brain cell to learn a new fact

      I've never read the books so I can't comment on the book Blackthorne vs TV
      I've grabbed the books and audiobooks from tracker so will give them a go

      Mariko's English was an error I think. It's the old classic trope of "I speak a little of your language..." and then spending the rest of the film/series speaking in fluent, poetic, and deeply insightful English, never hesitating for vocabulary or grammar. She also was a bit too much of a warrior princess too.

      I thought the constant rain was kino. Reminded me of Kurosawa and Zatoichi.

      Stuff set in medieval europe hasn't stopped slop makers from casting DEI actors before so I genuinely expected them do it. Not one of the main ones, but some sort 'cool black character' that reddit would lose their shit over - like a black shinobi that reminds them of that star wars bounty hunter person.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The acronym is a scam and you know it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They really dropped the ball here. The original story is centered around Blackthorne and his fish-out-of-water situation but the new tv series sidelined him to focus on stronk grrl Mariko who don't need no gaijin.
      The book is primarily focused on toranaga, despite what whiny progressives say.
      I agree the show is obnoxiously Mariko-centric, as her charater just isn't that deep in the book or show

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The book is primarily focused on toranaga, despite what whiny progressives say.

        It's Toranaga's actions that drive the plot but the book is centered on Blackthorne.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm guessing they'll adapt Clavell's novel "Tai-Pan" next.
      >Hong Kong and the Opium Wars
      Eh. It isn't quite the same. And I doubt there would not be interference from China unless they film it here and it wouldn't be the same. Hiroyuki Sanada ensured it was an authentic Japanese production. I can't imagine getting the same from modern China. Certainly they'd love to paint the British as a bunch of war mongering drug dealers, which they were, but I wonder if they'd even allow a production.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>I'm guessing they'll adapt Clavell's novel "Tai-Pan" next.
        >Eh. It isn't quite the same. And I doubt there would not be interference from China

        It could be filmed in Singapore or Taiwan or even in the U.S./Canada, seeing as Hong Kong today doesn't look anything like the Hong Kong of 1841.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought Mariko was kinda weird looking
      The only good looking woman in the entire cast.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which is better, this or the 1980s one?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The 1980s one focuses on the romance between Mariko and Blackthorne and pushes the political intrigue on the background
      The new one focuses on the political intrigue and pushes the romance between Mariko and Blackthorne on the background

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Asian men hate the show because a white guy fricks Asian women
    >Catholics hate the show because John Blackthorne hates them
    >Protestants hate the show because John didn't do a whole lot to defeat the Catholics
    >Bookgays hate the show because it didn't copy the books 1:1
    >Marvelgays hate the show because there is no soulless epic battle or orange slices
    >Illiterates hate the show because they have to read subtitles
    >Normies hate the show because because Japan is too weird for them
    >Zoomers hate the show because it's longer than 5 seconds and thats too much time away from their phones
    >Contrarians hate the show because it's good
    >Boomers hate the show because a 1980 version exists and "Old Good, New Bad" is their slogan
    >Animegays hate the show because Toranaga doesn't have an episode long fight with Ishido that takes place mid-air with their katanas clashing a thousand times a second
    >Lefties hate the show because a strong black woman doesn't become Shogun
    >/misc/ hates the show because it didn't have John become Shogun while turning Japan into his personal harem
    >Lobsters hate the show because there is boiling water
    >Only the cultured few who wanted to see a story that remained authentic and true to the Japanese culture of the period enjoyed the show.
    Water flows through stones
    The sticks and twigs may not pass
    The stream becomes pure

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never seent a filter haiku before

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hate the show because John Blackthorne hates them
      hate the show because John didn't do a whole lot to defeat the Catholics
      Orthodox Christians just sit back and laugh at the heretics fighting each other.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hate the show because Toranaga doesn't have an episode long fight with Ishido that takes place mid-air with their katanas clashing a thousand times a second
      That's what Sengoku Basara is for.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hates the show because it didn't have John become Shogun while turning Japan into his personal harem
      based pol as always

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      baka anjin

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No hollywood race politics or rainbow flag bullshit
    It literally pushes the WMAF agenda. Main girl cucks her husband after getting BLEACHED.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She thought he was dead when she pursued John and she never did again
      Also the flashbacks showed he was always opposed to her arranged marriage so she wanted out before John ever washed up. You tried.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and she never did again
        did you stop watching the show after the cucktaroo on the coast episode or? lmao

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese speaks japanese
    british speaks english
    spaniards and portuguese speaks english

    lol, frick this garbage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one wants to listen to some moronic gobblediasiatic portuguese for the entire show, it's not even a concession to switch it to english.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You forgot “humiliation ritual” and “woke” Mr. Eastern European incel. If you’re gonna be a parrot, at least parrot all the lame terms racist white virgins parrot.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >season 2 confirmed
    SHOBROS WE ARE SO BACK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But Shogun is finished. Are they doing Tai-pan?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think so, also the source is just some Forbes article saying that Sanada is signed on for another season.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hell I'll watch that, he's always good. Only reason I bothered to watch that new Mortal Kombat piece of shit, too.

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