If Heath Ledger haven't conveniently overdosed

...would critics and audience have called out The Dark Knight (2008) as the garbage sequel it is? Maggie Gyllenhaal is fricking terrible as Rachel Dawes, feels like a completely different character -- Maggies says she was going to interpret that character differently but she was just too LAZY to act, I feel like she thought she was in a romcom movie, Bridget Jones in Gotham, girlish hag being fought over by two chads, the only thing that made her scenes bearable is knowing that she goes into the oven halfway through the film.

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    TDK is a class act in pacing for a thriller film.
    And it's technically the most well made film that features a superhero.
    But it isn't the best Batman film.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      While Girlish Hag was absolutely terrible, all the characters that weren't Bruce, Alfred, or Gordon, was also terrible. Gotham acted like ungrateful whiny c**ts, especially the cops who want Batman to turn himself in because they were being targeted. Maggie's acting is terrible, but the way Rachel Dawes was written in this movie was just terrible. How did she go from waiting for Bruce to "I'm going to marry Harvey Dent" so quickly, did Dent even propose?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I don't remember Dent proposing.
        I like Eckhart as Dent, though I think him randomly becoming evil and having a two-sided personality just because he was good at investigating corrupt cops is a bit lame.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Because Dent believed the system had failed him and Rachel, which it clearly did. For that he required vengeance.

          Your response might be the most moronic take I’ve seen all day.
          >hurr durr how did Harvey Dent become evil??
          Clearly this movie went way over your head, you should stick to marvel and Star Wars.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Nolan trilogy is now above Marvel and Star Wars
            Kek

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Post hands, darkie.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't ask how he became evil.
            Please invest in reading comprehension.
            I'm saying the set-up of the "split-personality" was poorly done.
            The idea of him being upset because Rachel died makes sense.
            But the idea of him adopting this "two-sided" persona because Gordon's men knew he exposed corrupt cops is a bad setup.
            They should have stuck with the comic backstory.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              How is it “poorly done,” he was burned to a crisp in the movie. He clearly became some /misc/ schizo because he was off his pain medication. You should try taking reading classes you stupid asswipe.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Dent became a /misc/ schizo because he was off his meds
                Talk about not understanding the movie, jesus christ.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              he didnt have a split persona in the movie you fricking moron. he flipped a coin to give them a 50 50 chance at living because it was same chance rachel had of surviving. at no point does he have a split persona in the movie.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Not a literal split personality you nonce.
                But the 'mask' that he wore around Gordon's men, which is where the name came from.
                Did you even watch the film?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >But the 'mask' that he wore around Gordon's men, which is where the name came from.
                ohhhh I get it now. youre a homosexual. sorry i didnt realise. please just dont mind me and continue being a homosexual.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >oh...ye-yeah that...well you're a homosexual! haha! a homosexual!

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                it doesnt make sense that youd drop your homosexual "mask" around me now

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Bro is desperate to make us forget that he didn't remember a primary part of the film he's defending.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm saying the set-up of the "split-personality" was poorly done.
                >no wait i didnt mean he had a split personality
                >arent you forgetting about the "mask"
                >did you even watch the film?
                The mask with Jim Carey is a good movie, maybe youd understand it better.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I can't comprehend quotation marks
                >Therefore you are stupid
                Good talk.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                so your point is that the setup of the thing that didnt exist in the movie was poorly done? frickin kek

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No. My point is that most non-ESLs can recognize the usage of quotations in a way which signals unusual usage.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                why cant you just admit you were wrong chuddy?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >why not admit that you were wrong because I lack reading comprehension?
                >*insert buzzword insult*

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                yeah it was cool how they gave Harvey Dent multiple personalities in the dark knight but the setup could have been better.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that would be a shit argument.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                which of harveys personalities did you like best? and lets not forget the star of the show, his "mask"

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You'll have to tell me.
                People who grow up speaking English don't struggle with taking quotations literally.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                sum up your original point in a single sentence. me no speaka da english. oh yeah and remember to try and not contradict yourself

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The film didn't set up the "Two-Face" aspect of Two-Face well.
                This is without a doubt a language barrier issue.
                But it's moreso an intelligence barrier issue.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >noooooo the movie didnt do the same story that batman has done 100 times
                >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the original guy you are arguing with, but, there was NO "Two-face" persona, mask, act, etc. in the film. You are getting Twoface from the Nolan film confused with Twoface from the comics. Twoface in the Nolan universe called himself Twoface because cops called him that behind his back due to perceiving him as one of their own that went after cops as a DA and the fact his face was literally fricked up to the point of having two faces. He didn't call himself that because it was his personality or new persona; he did it because he was half burnt and out of his mind and used a common insult that was attached to himself that best matched his physical being.

                TLDR: you are wrong.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >thinks capeshit has some deeper meaning, intelligent plot
            have a nice day

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >gets filtered by capeshit

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I think they made the same mistake as Batman & Robin by trying to cram too many villains and plots into one movie, they are still trying to replicate Tim Burton's success with Batman Returns (1992) which had the Penguin and the Catwoman -- but things fit coherent in that film due to the animal motifs of penguin, cat, and bat -- as well as all three being misfits of high society.

          Since Harvey Dent was just introduced, they should have kept him as a heroic lawyer for this film and not make him the Two-Face Villain till another film, the impact would be better.

          As for Rachel Dawe's death, it would have had more impact, actual impact, if they have kept Katie Holmes (with more money and better writing) and the same characterization, because then it would have been someone we knew from last film instead of what is actually a new character. I thought A License To Kill was problematic because Felix was supposed to be good friends with James Bond but they didn't reuse the same Felix from The Living Daylights.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I agree that when a filmmaker introduces Dent, there should be a film or two to have the audience acclimate to him.
            Like how BTAS had Harvey in a couple episodes before the two-parter.
            Makes him feel more substantial.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Like how BTAS had Harvey in a couple episodes before the two-parter.
              Gotham (FOX) did this, hired a semi known actor to play him too, knowing they'd turn him into Two-Face someday. Then the dude was cast in his own show on NBC and Dent/Two-Face was never heard from again.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Imo his personality once he went evil wasn’t very two-sided, or at least not as extreme as it’s usually portrayed in the comics. He wanted revenge on everyone he held responsible for his life falling apart but still wanted to believe in some kind of justice(in this case, pure chance).

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I agree. He seemed pretty stable and his moments of "ooooh he's scary" were all over one thing: Rachel.
            In the comics he kinda flips out randomly whenever he's angry, which makes him feel more unpredictable.
            But the "two-sided danger" in TDK is more of an understandable reaction rather than a clear breach of sanity.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          How can people criticize this movie if they forgot parts of it.

          Hint: yes Dent proposed in this movie. It comes up twice. That's the whole frickin reason Rachel even writes the letter to Bruce, and why Alfred finds that destroying the letter is the only way to keep Bruce sane and attached to humanity, because it shatters Bruce own self delusions that Rachel would've waited for him. If Bruce would've read the letter, he would have hated himself for failing to go to the right address to save Rachel, and also possibly killed Harvey Dent when he went to save Gordon's family.

          Then Batman would've been truly destroyed. By avoiding that, Batman only has his image tarnished, not his self respect after killing Dent. He would've left Gotham and it would've rot.
          Alfred knew this, so he sacrificed the truth so Gotham could still have it's hero.

          Also, yes I agree, outside of Bruce/Alfred/Gordon and Heaths performance, everyone else's performances were laughable at times. Nolan really needs to stop doing single takes and review dailies, his extras frick up his scenes.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Rewatching this now, I don't even remember the dinner scene with Bruce's blonde date, my brain froze with boredom during all the Bridget Jones in Gotham scenes, these people have zero chemistry and the Two-Face and Batman fighting over a girl subplot was lame, should have just made Maggie's character the wife. T

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Every scene where Harvey and Bruce are dick measuring over Girlish Hag reads like a bad fanfic at the Pits of Voles.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Rachel should not have existed, her character should have been Dent from the beginning, but god forbid there’s no ham fisted love story in these things. And if Nolan was dead set on a love triangle he should have brought in a real writer and done it effectively instead of half assing it.
        I like Rises better because at least Rises feels like it’s stupid on purpose.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I think Rachel as Bruce's childhood friend worked for Batman Begins, like Andrea in Batman TAS Phantasm...but after Batman Begins, she shouldn't still be played as a love interest or potential love interest, I feel like she would have been better as just a childhood friend like Talia and Bane were friends. The Bridget Jones fought over by Batman and Harvey Dent was moronic, Dent going evil over her was super moronic because THEY JUST MET, and she's no Helena of Troy, women with sagging faces are lovable but not at first sight.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Always thought the movie was overrated, take out Ledgers performance and there is very little else good about it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This, Dark Knight Rises was easily the best Batman movie and it’s not even close. I hated the one with heath ledger, it was moronic and israelitepilled

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Dark Knight Rises was easily the best Batman movie
        No, it totally pussied out at the end by having Bane not really be a villain with an ideology, but yet another League of Assassins' stooge.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Always thought the movie was overrated, take out the Shark and there is very little else good about "Jaws".

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This, the entire movie is seen though " oh ledger died" lenses and people ignore how shit it is

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If Heath hadn't overdosed, Joker would've been in 3rd movie and we wouldn't have Bane

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If Heath haven't overdosed, I think The Dark Knight would have bombed at the box office and there wouldn't have had been money for the third film.

      People aren't supposed to speak ill of the dead, but I wonder what Christopher Nolan really thought of Heath Ledger? As addicts are a nightmare to work with, show up late and/or high and/or drunk-- that was why Michael Biehn disappeared after his two hits with James Cameron Robert Downey Jr was more talented than Biehn, but him being a junkie made him too expensive to insure.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn’t an accidental overdose, he was about to expose the israelites and they knew he would bring their empire crashing down because he was a based ayran Chad.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The movie looked incredible in IMAX and I saw it three times in IMAX to enjoy the full frame looking incredible.
        It falls apart anytime you think of it but the cinematography and Ledger make it litty.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn’t an accidental overdose, he was about to expose the israelites and they knew he would bring their empire crashing down because he was a based ayran Chad.

        heath killed himself after michelle williams told him she aborted his baby

        that's the real reason. the overdose is a coverup story

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, I was wondering if Heath was bumped off or left to overdose (instead of hospital) because he was such a pain to work with -- and I heard that whenever a soccer team isn't winning enough so they are losing money, they are likely to be put on a small plane that will crash.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Heath od’d after a threesome with the Olsen twins cuz he knew he would never top it. He was right and is based af

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Based. He was also balding so he cheated the Norwood reaper

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Heath DIDNT overdose you fricking brainlet. He was vaxxed and the spike proteins took over his brain

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          A time traveler jabbed him?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Heath wasn't a junkie. This was an accidental overdose on meds, not a speedball or some shit.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    People were calling him award worthy before he died

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    his makeup and acting is top notch, I can't see heath ledger in joker no matter how hard I try, it's like they're two different persons

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    TDK > Begins > TDKR

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That touchdown while the stadium implodes is too moronic for words as is the whole of tdkr made by a goof Brit who has negative understanding of America and that bane would be capped in a literal fricking second
      Begins and Rises are unenjoyable dogshit just like Oppenheimie

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Bane was some roided-out based troony, he would have survived that attempt so easily. Clearly you have never seen the movie.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Begins was pretty solid. Agree that Rises was trash. What don't you like about Begins?

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Wouldn’t the dude who had a pencil shoved through his eye be all like Austin Powers dude shoved down the pit?
    Like
    Owww! This really fricking hurts! Like it’s in my brain yo and I’m leakin this No joke

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    when will nostalgia poisoned homosexuals admit that The Batman is 10x better than this shit

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I used to slob all over TDK like a fricking neanderthal, and yes, The Batman is a better Batman film.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      TDK > Batman Begins ~ The Batman > TDKR

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I grew up with Kevin Conroy's Batman TAS -- that's why it took me so long to finally watch Nolan, his Alfred is just too different looking, but it actually turned out well. I watched Michael Caine first on Harry Brown -- kinda fits with Alfred''s back story of being some British badass before he semi-retired to be with the Waynes instead, he was officially the servant but I think they were always like the good people family he never got to have. I like how the Noland series fleshed out how stressful Bruce being Batman is for Alfred and WHY he put up with it as long as he had -- because at one point Bruce dealt with his parent's murder so badly he almost shot Joe Chill, and then disappeared for 8 years. Alfred probably felt at the onset that if he didn't support Bruce being Batman, he'll just do it anyways but with greater risk.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >...would critics and audience have called out The Dark Knight (2008) as the garbage sequel it is?
    No, because it's not, and it's a far better film than the first one (Batman Begins) which nobody really talks about. Your contrarian zoomer bullshit aside, we all hated Maggie Gyllenhall and her character doesn't destroy the entire film no matter how butthurt you are. It's so fricking tiresome seeing you children tear down good movies just because you want attention.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Begins is better but because of Joker fanboys, any Batman movie with Joker in it is gonna be talked about the most.

      It's like how Batman Returns is better than Batman '89 but '89 gets talked about the most 'cuz of Jack Nicholson's Joker portrayal. Or how The Joker gets talked about more than The Batman.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Joker annoys the hell out of me, even the most tolerable version with Mark Hamil.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Girlish Hag's character was basically a Mary Sue self-insert, the skinwalker kind that took over an existing character but doesn't resemble that character in anyway but name. If Katie Holmes wouldn't come back but they absolutely must cast Maggie Gyllenhal, then they should have wrote her in as a new character, Harvey Dent's existing wife, Dent wasn't in the last film so it's fine for him to have a wife we never saw before either. Then instead of angsting over a woman HE JUST MET that was also Batman's love interest, have Dent angst over the death of a pregnant wife he brought to Gotham because he wanted to make a big name for himself.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Where are you getting the impression Harvey and Rachel had only just met? They could have been dating for like 8 months prior to Dark Knight

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Also, Rachel worked for Harvey, presumably this is how the relationship began. Even if you think they have only been romantically together shortly before the movie, they would have been colleagues/friends/ maybe hooking up for months prior to them going out together publicly.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    frick off moron

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Batman Begins is the best of the trilogy, The Batman and Joker are both better than TDK, TDKR is the worst of the bunch but still a fun movie

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I watched the sequel first and thought the dark knight was much better

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No, because regardless of his death, he was still captivating as frick and completely stole the entire movie.
    It might not have gotten as much positive attention on it, and certainly wouldn't have made as much money as it did, but it wouldn't have changed the overall reception of the movie.

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