If Mars (or Venus) were Earth-like for the entirety of human times, how would this affect kino?

If Mars (or Venus) were Earth-like for the entirety of human times, how would this affect kino? Would we have movies set on Mars?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In order for those planets to be "Earth like" the sun would have to be cooler/hotter which would cause all life on Earth to die.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he forgot about atmospheric density
      The atmosphere regulates climate, a denser one would mean a warmer planet. Also both Mars and Venus were green about 4 billion years ago.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And a bigger iron core to create the magnetosphere to protect the atmosphere from solar rays stripping it away. That was Mars' 'biggest problem.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who needs that when you have nuclear reactors and electromagnets

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sure, we'll get Elon Musk working on that as soon as possible.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          heh. nothing personnel mars. better luck next time. don't forget to ironmaxx.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This, all the terraforming cool theorization means shit without a magnetosphere like Earth's making life possible by not letting you get fried by radiation

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they can unironically put a big magnet at the lagrange point between the sun and mars and it could act as an external magnetic shield. its not an impossible problem and you wouldnt even need to touch the actual planet

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              See

              Who needs that when you have nuclear reactors and electromagnets

              Also, mars actually doesn’t have the mass to maintain a stable component of water vapor in its atmosphere at earth like temperatures. It would constantly be stripped into space even with a magnetic shield. However, this would be very slow and would amount to crashing a comet onto the surface every 10,000 years or something, because there’s already a ton of water ice on mars for the initial terraforming.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              huh i never heard this idea, only the one to jumpstart the core with nukes. This is a cool idea, along with creating a mirror ring in orbit of mars to 'amplify' the sun for more heat.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also both Mars and Venus were green about 4 billion years ago.
        How do you know?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he forgot about atmospheric density
      The atmosphere regulates climate, a denser one would mean a warmer planet. Also both Mars and Venus were green about 4 billion years ago.

      And a bigger iron core to create the magnetosphere to protect the atmosphere from solar rays stripping it away. That was Mars' 'biggest problem.

      Wrong. God just has to make it livable for us. He knows we aren’t ready for it yet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        maybe if you're a boring frick with no imagination that has to be literal about everything

        Probably the best moment I've had with my VR headset was downloading a panorama from one of the Mars rovers. It was incredible Essentially I was standing on another planet, not a fictional videogame creation but an actual other world in our solar system, I could view the rocks, look at the mountains, look up to see the sky and there were also sounds captured by the rover. It started to freak me out a little because it was a real, extraterrestrial place and I could look around it freely.

        VR has so much potential but it seems like because the initial reaction is lackluster its not being pursued as the life changing thing it could be

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In order for those planets to be "Earth like", a frickhuge asteroid would need to collide to provide enough gravity. Mars is the same size as the moon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mars is the same size as the moon

        Mass of mars: 6.39 × 10^23 kg,
        Mass of moon: 7.34 x 10^22 kg

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jeez, lay off the racism buddy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it fricking doesn't, it just needs a magnetosphere or a working core.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No it fricking doesn't, it just needs a magnetosphere or a working core.
        I once read it's theoretically possible to seed Mars' atmosphere with enough junk to act the same as a magnetosphere; it would "only" last a couple million years but obviously that would be plenty of time for human use.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Something that protects the atmosphere from getting shredded by the sun, it's not the proximity or the heat, it's the lack of protection.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            solar winds and radiation only strip away a planets atmosphere over millions of years. any human activity there could easily outscale this loss even without natural protection from a magnetic core

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The sun is the hottest element in the universe, by defintion. It can't be hotter.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The sun is the hottest element in the universe, by defintion. It can't be hotter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >falling for space shit
      It's all in your imagination, dummies. Earth is our world. You can't leave the world. The planets and stars are simply satellites in our atmosphere. Get over it. Outer space doesn't exist.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why all the water on the top?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he didnt shake it off before zipping it up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The northern hemisphere of mars is much lower than the southern hemisphere, which is all highlands.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The water at the bottom fell off.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Venus is so destructive it would take Star Trek tech to make it habitable at all.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What could have been…
    VGH…

    Why did God deny us this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Venus looks like kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This made my heart sink. Why did we have to have the shit timeline?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NEW SHANGHAI?!?!? but China bad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In this timeline the USA threw massive support behind Chiang Kai-Shek and the nationalists, nuked Mao and Stalin, and enforced the communist control act via gallows loop leading to an unprecedented Era of peace and prosperity where we terraformed Mars and Venus

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          China only became rich because the US and USSR were fighting for influence and invested billions into China to pull them to their side. A nationalist China would just be Pinochet Chile but with a billion people. It would be a shithole.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but like Pinochet's Chile, it would be a shithole amicable to the US. Also China didn't become rich until the 90s when the US moved all its industry there. Prior to that it's economy was about the size of Mexico (which was massively expanded by US moving industry there previously)

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They played you both. It’s actually funny how one collapsed and the other is now banning chinese companies in desperation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>What could have been…
      What was anon...what WAS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      jupiter and saturn's moons too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      venus reminds me of One Pieces world

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder that First World Countries could have achieved this but instead they pour all the funds toward third world countries that can't even govern itself

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys should read this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy

      Seconded.

      I literally cried when I finished the story, as I realized I'd never go to Mars myself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Probably the best moment I've had with my VR headset was downloading a panorama from one of the Mars rovers. It was incredible Essentially I was standing on another planet, not a fictional videogame creation but an actual other world in our solar system, I could view the rocks, look at the mountains, look up to see the sky and there were also sounds captured by the rover. It started to freak me out a little because it was a real, extraterrestrial place and I could look around it freely.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unfortunately I think humanity is fricked, between corporate greed and woke stupidity, we'll never colonize Mars and then, it'll be too late.

          In the distant future, alien archeologists will arrive on Earth and wonder how we fricked it all up.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget mad Russians with thousands of nukes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Excellent trilogy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only the first one is good, the others deep dive into hippie shit.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lads, do you ever ponder why we just woke up on this planet? are other beings doing the same thing across the universe? if so, seems like we're fricking up by treating animals like shit on this planet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this is what atheists ponder
      imagine being so philosophically bankrupt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nta but what sort of a god needs or wants the devotion of some stinky, ill-mannered domesticated primates? Seems sus

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Which religion do you subscribe to that gives you room to ponder?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope, but I will be thinking about that now. Strangely, Ive only ever thought of alien life on other planets as being either hyperintelligent/advanced with everything figured out or extremely primitive with no civilizations. Never really considered that there could be tons of worlds out there filled with apes like us wondering about their own existence and place in the universe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've wondered before if there's other beings like us out there, yeah. It's natural to eat other things though, and bacon and steak and fish are good.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >treating animals like shit
      ??? we're doing what any intelligent species would do turned them into a renewable resource, everything hunts each other regardless

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Multicultural stabbings on mars? No thanks.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there would be no movies
    white man would be busy exploring and conquering mars and venus

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If Mars (or Venus) were Earth-like

    I'd suggest Stirling's alt-history novels "The Sky People" and "In the Courts of the Crimson Kings", where both Mars and Venus are habitable and inhabited when humans from Earth make contract in the 1960s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._M._Stirling_bibliography

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd also suggest the "Venus Prime" novels by Paul Preuss adapted from works by Arthur C. Clarke.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Preuss_(author)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always see Stirling in bookstores but I never see any discussion of his books on the internet. Are his fans just not very active online? Anyway, In the Courts of the Crimson Kings was pretty good and reminded me a bit of Edgar Rice Burroughs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I always see Stirling in bookstores but I never see any discussion of his books on the internet. Are his fans just not very active online?

        Can't speak on his fans but he was a regular back in the day on Usenet's soc.history.what-if newsgroup and I've always wondered why no tv network adapted his "Nantucket" trilogy or the "Emberverse" novels, as both seems like a perfect choice for a tv series. Maybe he wants too much money or, more likely I'm guessing, he won't let Hollywood frick them as is pretty much guaranteed nowadays.

        >Anyway, In the Courts of the Crimson Kings was pretty good and reminded me a bit of Edgar Rice Burroughs.

        Yeah, that was kinda the goal; to do a modern alt-history story based on oldy timey sci-fi stories where Venus and Mars were habitable before we figured out they weren't.

        Don't forget mad Russians with thousands of nukes.

        >Don't forget mad Russians with thousands of nukes.

        I don't see us descending in nuclear war, just society getting shittier and shittier until it's too late.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we already have movies set on mars

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have any clue how fricking boring this area would be?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The area with all the land?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cimmeria
      Krommmmmmmmmmmm!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do you have any clue how fricking boring this area would be?
      Actually yes. It's called "lazy word building".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All those useless poo-aliens crowding the Thaumasian Plain and contributing nothing to society.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    first of all, flip that damn map upside down, it will look much better!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did it for you

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    problem i see with this map is you have a bunch of circle lakes from craters, but if Mars had liquid water for any extended time erosion would have smoothed everything out

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blocks your path

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok ok, but i assume thats probably a more recent crater. probably topology generally has a lot to do with it too but I'm not a asteroid geologist.

        I feel like Arabia would be new finland

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ancient shaping of the world is so cool, it's crazy that features like El Capitan were once way larger mountains that essentially had all the softest parts around its volcanic center sheered off by massive ice age glaciers moving by it. A true timelapse of the earth would be so kino.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Time Machine from the 2000s had a cool timelapse scene.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I LIVE 2 HOURS FROM THERE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s a map of what mars would look like if we actively terraformed in to an earthlike state over the course of 100s or thousands of years, so significant erosion wouldn’t have occurred yet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anyone know if the sea level is accurate to native water/ice on Mars?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i'm such a bawd for erosion I love ero-ACK

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no kino about ancient mars getting nuked by the ancient pajeets

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ancient pajeets
      >not the Finno-Koreans
      Do you even /x/ bro?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder if any terraforming will happen in For All Mankind

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys remember in Exo-Squad how the humans terraformed Venus and Mars using their genetically engineered slave race, which then rebelled and conquered the inner planets, so now most of the remaining humans are either in slave labor camps in the inner worlds, or living on spaceships orbiting the outer worlds?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exo-Squad is fricking kino. Loved that shit as a kid.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How likely would these green new planets spawn humanoid intelligent species? I don't even mind if they are sentient just frickable enough.

    If they don't have any sexy alien b***hes then I won't have it.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Appalachian mountains and the Scottish Highlands are actuallly the same mountain range separated by millions of years of continental drift. And the Appalachians were settled by mostly Scottish immigrants. I like to think there was this moment they stood around looking at their surroundings and it suddenly dawned on them and they went
    >Lads... we found the rest of it!

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3 inland deserts divided symmetrically
    >oceans are entirely northern
    >that fat ass inland sea probably bigger than any on earth
    i love these type of hypothetical images

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It makes total sense if you know some things about Martian geography and topography.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Venus isn't even that intense, it would be like Cloud City from Star Wars. Its kind of a death sentence though so nobody volunteered to live there. Solar powers it, you have helium in the atmosphere to keep it lifted, water vapor collectors. Just connect it together with little rooms everywhere can at least get a space station. But yeah no getting back thing sucks.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there sovl on MAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrssss?

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, now I'm sad that the Mars Trilogy adaptation is never going to happen because JMS decided it was more important to reboot his only truly successful project absent the mostly-deceased cast that elevated it to true timeless kino just so he could put in the troon character the network blocked the first time around. I might read the books again next week.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remember, Sax Russel is the most based man alive.

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