>be me >have aunt in the UK with brain tumor >9 month wait for surgery, likely to die beforehand
Similar anecdotes from Canada except they offer to kill you first.
>be american >aunt gets radiation course >that'll be 200k US dollars plus tip >oh your aunt is gonna die btw, that was just the treatment at the time, sowwy lmao
This is so much better, right?
Yes, because she can afford it. So can basically anyone who hcan get a HELOC or has been saving for retirement >now you'll say oh poor Americans having to mortgage themselves for healthcare
The difference is we can actually get it in time.
>UK cancer pathways are 62 day referral from GP to treatment targets
That's great but targets don't save you when providers are in shortage and queues are overrun.
yes they don't meet 100% target obviously but it's not going to be anywhere near 9 months
if a GP suspects it might be cancer it's usually a 2 week wait to a diagnostic, followed by 2 weeks for confirmation, then usually another 30 days or so as you go through MDTs and treatment optiions
obviously targets aren't met as much, especially since COVID, but it's not going to be suddenly 9 month waiting times like with elective lists
The show still would have happened because Skyler told him to break bad. The whole show is him trying to live up to her expectations but failing to do so.
We do in Australia. Doesn't cover cancer treatment though, you could get a free diagnosis which you would then need to sell everything you ever wagied for to fund the treatment by a specialist, and there is likely a 3 year waiting list so you are better off flying to somewhere overseas like America for "serious" treatment.
The hospitals are overflowing with third world scammers, so much so that we need to import third world doctors to meet the demand and those doctors just give out painkillers and collect their pay.
Every country with 'free' public healthcare actually has no healthcare and an economic black hole, it's so funny living in the American left wing normie's utopia and watching them carefully glossing over this.
>he waited over 10 hours for an ambulance
would love to hear the details on this because I'm sure they'd be enlightening
at what hour do people realise they can take themselves to hospital?
>so you are better off flying to somewhere overseas like America for "serious" treatment.
Sounds like bullshit, cause I personally know someone from America who went to a South East Asian country for cancer treatment because the Americ**t system is so fricked up.
Because countries are so fricked you're better off running else where to get cheaper care or drugs.
There are US citizens who go to Canada to get drugs or Mexico to get shit like dental.
So I don't doubt there are people running to third world shit holes to get care. Fricking Chinks use to have anchor babies to bypass the one child policy.
Walter would have probably been better off getting treatment in Mexico or something for cheap with the risk of being given too much chemo or a dirty needle.
why do you spread blatant lies on the internet?
People get triaged based on their severity, and are treated in such order
Somebody with advanced bur treatable cancer is going to be treated earlier than others not so severe in the public system
If you want to go private then that's your choice but also your responsibility
His original plan was to leave as much money as possible for his family. It wasn't until the intervention where he decided to spend the money on his health
The opening scene of the show is literally a doctor telling Walt "your treatment starts in a couple weeks." Walt had good health insurance. It was never about the treatment.
We do have local state and county health care but it's so shit and full of bureaucracy red tape you'd be better off selling drugs to pay for treatment.
And go frick yourself if you're a man.
They purposefully shut out men seeking public medical assistance.
Now imagine shitty local health care programs but on a national scale.
You'd might as well let whatever issues you have fester than deal with scummy doctors and moronic brown women who send you into a endless cycles of phone calls and office visits for referrals that might not get approved.
Australia has free healthcare but it sucks ass
You go to a GP for a problem, then they refer you to a specialist, if you are lucky you see them after 2 fricking years
I have Blue Cross PPO. I pay for nothing. No copay. Free prescriptions. I can go to the chiropractor 40 times a year and get an hour long massage.
My dental is Delta Dental and they cover 80%.
It's called collective bargaining.
i don't know if it's ever free. it's just cheaper than private clinic and you'll have to wait for long time.
t. just waited for almost a year for doctors appointment and had to pay for it. but hey at least i saved like 30 euros lmao
He would have died waiting.
>This is what Americans are told by their doctors when overchanrged for basic examination
>be me
>have aunt in the UK with brain tumor
>9 month wait for surgery, likely to die beforehand
Similar anecdotes from Canada except they offer to kill you first.
What happened to her?
Still waiting
Can you tell her I'm going to include her in my evening prayers tonight?
>be american
>aunt gets radiation course
>that'll be 200k US dollars plus tip
>oh your aunt is gonna die btw, that was just the treatment at the time, sowwy lmao
This is so much better, right?
Yes, because she can afford it. So can basically anyone who hcan get a HELOC or has been saving for retirement
>now you'll say oh poor Americans having to mortgage themselves for healthcare
The difference is we can actually get it in time.
UK cancer pathways are 62 day referral from GP to treatment targets
9 month waits are for elective things like knee replacements and stuff
you're never waiting that long if it's actually serious
although suspect this thread is mostly AI posts
>UK cancer pathways are 62 day referral from GP to treatment targets
That's great but targets don't save you when providers are in shortage and queues are overrun.
yes they don't meet 100% target obviously but it's not going to be anywhere near 9 months
if a GP suspects it might be cancer it's usually a 2 week wait to a diagnostic, followed by 2 weeks for confirmation, then usually another 30 days or so as you go through MDTs and treatment optiions
obviously targets aren't met as much, especially since COVID, but it's not going to be suddenly 9 month waiting times like with elective lists
The show still would have happened because Skyler told him to break bad. The whole show is him trying to live up to her expectations but failing to do so.
>Skylar im not some charity case
>dies
>social issues
We do in Australia. Doesn't cover cancer treatment though, you could get a free diagnosis which you would then need to sell everything you ever wagied for to fund the treatment by a specialist, and there is likely a 3 year waiting list so you are better off flying to somewhere overseas like America for "serious" treatment.
The hospitals are overflowing with third world scammers, so much so that we need to import third world doctors to meet the demand and those doctors just give out painkillers and collect their pay.
Every country with 'free' public healthcare actually has no healthcare and an economic black hole, it's so funny living in the American left wing normie's utopia and watching them carefully glossing over this.
telvision
Yeah the only people who think our healthcare system is good are American leftists and Aussies who've never had to go to hospital
>t. actually just T*xan
>Australia
>anyone's utopia
Here in Australia people die regularly waiting for medical help. One recently waited over 10 hours for an ambulance. He died before they got there.
Did he live in the outback 10 hours away from civilization?
Suburbs of a major Capital city
>he waited over 10 hours for an ambulance
would love to hear the details on this because I'm sure they'd be enlightening
at what hour do people realise they can take themselves to hospital?
He could have been to old or sick to drive?
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/jan/04/man-dies-after-waiting-more-than-10-hours-for-ambulance-in-adelaide
>so you are better off flying to somewhere overseas like America for "serious" treatment.
Sounds like bullshit, cause I personally know someone from America who went to a South East Asian country for cancer treatment because the Americ**t system is so fricked up.
>Hey bro why are you going to Thailand every 3 months?
>Uhh.... Cancer treatment. Definitely not to frick little boys.
>Ameritard cope
>A-america number one. O-ok??
Because countries are so fricked you're better off running else where to get cheaper care or drugs.
There are US citizens who go to Canada to get drugs or Mexico to get shit like dental.
So I don't doubt there are people running to third world shit holes to get care. Fricking Chinks use to have anchor babies to bypass the one child policy.
Walter would have probably been better off getting treatment in Mexico or something for cheap with the risk of being given too much chemo or a dirty needle.
walt had his treatment paid for
>We do in Australia
how're those taxes looking, shane?
>we have free healthcare except we don't
why do you spread blatant lies on the internet?
People get triaged based on their severity, and are treated in such order
Somebody with advanced bur treatable cancer is going to be treated earlier than others not so severe in the public system
If you want to go private then that's your choice but also your responsibility
>if only Epstein’s client list had control of my healthcare
Do liberals really?
His original plan was to leave as much money as possible for his family. It wasn't until the intervention where he decided to spend the money on his health
The opening scene of the show is literally a doctor telling Walt "your treatment starts in a couple weeks." Walt had good health insurance. It was never about the treatment.
What do you mean by “free”? Sweet summer child, somebody’s got to pay for it.
We do have local state and county health care but it's so shit and full of bureaucracy red tape you'd be better off selling drugs to pay for treatment.
And go frick yourself if you're a man.
They purposefully shut out men seeking public medical assistance.
Now imagine shitty local health care programs but on a national scale.
You'd might as well let whatever issues you have fester than deal with scummy doctors and moronic brown women who send you into a endless cycles of phone calls and office visits for referrals that might not get approved.
Australia has free healthcare but it sucks ass
You go to a GP for a problem, then they refer you to a specialist, if you are lucky you see them after 2 fricking years
I have Blue Cross PPO. I pay for nothing. No copay. Free prescriptions. I can go to the chiropractor 40 times a year and get an hour long massage.
My dental is Delta Dental and they cover 80%.
It's called collective bargaining.
when are people going to realize that there is no "good" healthcare system in the world they're all terrible what matters is how much money you have
It's so weird that America started out as a British colony, then one day they all decided to cut off each other's foreskins. WTF?
Shows like this and the Sopranos are popular because the American dream is dead and the only way to succeed anymore is to break the law.
The US pays for Israel to have free healthcare. Obamacare is the real killer though. It increased the price of health services by a substantial amount
i don't know if it's ever free. it's just cheaper than private clinic and you'll have to wait for long time.
t. just waited for almost a year for doctors appointment and had to pay for it. but hey at least i saved like 30 euros lmao