If you went through the detoxifying machine, what would the healthy and toxic versions of yourself look like?
If you went through the detoxifying machine, what would the healthy and toxic versions of yourself look like?
If you went through the detoxifying machine, what would the healthy and toxic versions of yourself look like?
Healthy: Soicuck numale
Toxic: Literal Khorne Berserker
rewatch the episode, the machine expels personal aspects that you yourself view as toxic, do you really want to be a pushover? Also get your testosterone levels checked
probably normal and green
Honestly I feel like Morty's healthy and toxic selves would reflect me a fair bit. I get clingy and get upset a lot, and kind of wish I could free myself from that
Interesting detail is that Toxic Rick cared more about Morty than his healthy self while his healthy self still cared about Beth and Summer.
>Interesting detail is that Toxic Rick cared more about Morty than his healthy self while his healthy self still cared about Beth and Summer.
Rick likes to believe that Morty is just sort of a pawn that he uses and so actually caring about him is toxic. Beth and Summer aren't stupid in Rick's eyes so he allows himself to care about them.
Healthy version of myself would get off my ass and start making art consistently and find a less humiliating way to make money than shit wagie work. Long-run I might set up an apocalyptic cult of personality in an obvious bid to get myself a humorous/adorable harem in real life instead of just in my Cinemaphile-fueled fantasies. (Extremely amusing IMO that this aspect winds up in my healthy version instead of my toxic version.)
Toxic version of myself would have zero energy at all, which is good because if it did have energy it would finally troon out for real. Instead it would probably just coomer it up all day every day to tranny homosexual shit, when it wasn't just sleeping and moping. Interrupt it or bother it in any way and it'll snap and get mean and violent for a moment and then slink back away. Retarded nasty fuck; dead inside.
>admits to being a repressed troon
oh no no no no no
you'll be on HRT in a few years
I sincerely wish you the best, anon.
Both would look like me, but one would be asleep on the toilet and the other would have an internet connection.
A white cisgendered straight male.
Healthy:a lot less secretive but also more socially aware and active and also someone that can live in the moment
Toxic:angry fetishistic and horny , and probably,obsessed with the past and nostalgia, also some autist traits that I resent about myself
Yeah probably akin to this, healthy being a stoic and toxic being a coomer
Healthy version: Be more industrious and actually achieve my artistic and creative goals. Stop thinking about past traumas and stop trying to help people. Realize I was always right and stop trying to appease idiots who don't even think. Become a better liar.
Toxic version: Be an idiot who tries to help people and think the best of others. Have compassion and worry about other peoples opinions outside of just playing the basic social games people play. Over eats and procrastinates.
>Toxic version: Be an idiot who tries to help people and think the best of others.
If you think altruism is a toxic trait you might already be the toxic version of yourself...
It's nice to set boundaries but its never a bad thing to help out others.
I gave a thousand bucks to help a friend move out of his shitty living situation to fly him across country to move in with his online girlfriend who was also a friend of mine. He was appose to get a job or go to school or get on disability but he choose to do neither and is super abusive to his girlfriend aka my friend. You shouldn't help people or see the best in them. Now I'm not saying to go out of your way to be bad but just don't go out of your way to be nice either like a normal person. There is a reason you shouldn't help. I was niave bit I learned my lesson
NTA but just set boundaries lol
What does boundary setting have anything to do with giving someone money to help him move and improve his life? Only for him to refuse to do anything after moving and abusing his girlfriend. Do you have basic reading comprehension skills? Or are you just trolling?
This seems like more of a problem of a lack of perspective than a real, genuine example of doing good things being bad.
What you did was help a person who didn't deserve it. Obviously, he took your charity and spit in your face with it. That is relatively normal, but irrelevant. I don't mean to be preachy, but helping others can only ever be a good thing, and if you are logically able, then you have no reasonable excuse NOT to help. To do otherwise is an inditement of your character. What you need is to understand how to set boundaries-- things you are willing to do for others, and things you are not. Once you have those boundaries, you must next learn how to simply go good things for goodness' sake, whether or not the other party "deserves it" or not. It's not about "deserving" it, it's not about "earning" it. It's about doing the right thing always, with no exceptions. What that means to you is for you to decide.
Your reaction in this post
indicates that you don't actually do good things for their own sake. That is something you must change first, if you truly wish to understand the beauty in kindness for others. Empathy is not a weakness, but apathy is.
And, for the track record, if one of your friends ever backstabs you like that, then they were never your friend, just a very well disguised scoundrel.
>"Helping others can only ever be a good thing"
Are you dumb? I just told you that my help resulted in my other friend being abused.
You are not listening. I am not apathetic. I am just not going to go out of my way to help others. It's rarely worth it to help others. Don't go out of your way to help or hurt others.
Every time I told people what I did they said, "wow that's so nice!" and I just was doing what I thought was the right thing. I now know why most people don't "do the right thing". No good deed goes unpunished.
Why are you talking about boundaries? It literally has nothing to do with what I said. It feels like you just have a script in your head you are preddeling off instead of actually reading and understanding like a person. You just want to say a bunch of feel good crap while judging others. But you don't even do it in a way that makes logical sense. I never thought he "earned it" or "deserved" it. I just wanted to help a friend in need.
You sound like a functioning retard who likes Jesus but can't really fallow things logically. You bring up so many weird points that don't make sense of connect. I did do things for the sake of it. He then refused to do the bare minimum like applying for dissability and mooching off the government and he abusses his girlfriend. I did help for the sake of goodness and he did the most evil thing possible. Your so dumb you should be ashamed of yourself. And you should work on your reading comprehension skills.
The following is just a couple of spelling/grammar/phrasing corrections to make my post more clear.
>You bring up so many weird points that don't make sense OR connect.
>I did do GOOD things for the sake of being Good
>and he abuses his girlfriend Instead
For fear of getting off topic, I'll make this quick.
>Don't go out of your way to help or hurt others.
This is apathy.
>and I just was doing what I thought was the right thing
Intention goes a long way. You were trying to do a good thing, and it had a butterfly effect you did not expect. That isn't your fault, and it's a normal part of doing anything. You couldn't have known he was going to do what he did, but you tried your best and that means the world.
>No good deed goes unpunished.
This is true in many cases, but it does not invalidate the good deed itself. It is simply the flow of things. A part of life that one must accept. No deed at all goes unpunished, truly.
>I did help for the sake of goodness and he did the most evil thing possible.
That is out of your hands. You were not responsible for his bad choices. You reached out your hand in good faith and he did the opposite. He was just not a good person perhaps deserving of a different kind of help.
>The rest of this post
Is not deserving of a response. The way that you immediately lash out without much provocation is sad.
I'm not the anon that responded to you initially, by the way. Just somebody who thought he'd add his two cents to the conversation.
I only "lashed out" because the other guy was a legit retard. You can even see it yourself. The guy's two cents was 'You should be good even if things go bad. But also doing the right thing is always good even when it results in bad stuff happening. Also, your friend who abuses your other friend was never truly your friend. One day maybe you will truly understand how good goodness is LIKE ME.' It was just narcissistic rambling a toddler could pradel off about how good it is to be good.
Also, I am not apathetic. Maybe you could say my actions are.
>You shouldn't help people or see the best in them
That's fair but people who believe this always act surprised when other people follow the same philosophy towards them
It's just the smartest move you can do. It's kind of like that meme with the three guys and the IQ chart. the dumb guy would never help anybody because he is selfish, the average guy would help to be kind. And the smart guy wouldn't help because he realizes it's the smartest move. Helping people is dangerous and not worth the risk to yourself and others.
Me and me but green.
Healthy: Autism powered ubermesnch
Toxic: Lazy ass retard who spends all his time in da computer eating
I'm not sure there'd be anything left.
toxic me would be made out of cum and constantly jerking off everywhere
Healthy: An extremely intelligent, mature and responsible slutty nympho who is CONVINCED that the morally correct thing to do is to act like a whore, actually gets a bit preachy about it. Brilliant, incredible self-control, highly ethical. Able to effortlessly manage life's challenges (similar to Morty), has the goal of corrupting people sexually and advancing her free-love ideology.
Toxic: A psychotically religious degenerate who beats people, screams at them incessantly and constantly acts self-important while having only the most base level of manipulative cunning without much in the way of patience of an ability to play the long game. Is superstitious and obsessed with piety but is driven by uncontrollable rapist urges. Attention span of a goldfish, constantly internally tormented, relishes in slaughter.
>An extremely intelligent, mature and responsible slutty nympho who is CONVINCED that the morally correct thing to do is to act like a whore, actually gets a bit preachy about it
This is not healthy behavior.
>relishes in slaughter.
Do you cut yourself too?
Well obviously I disagree, I think it's the ideal and am much closer to the healthy version of myself than the toxic version.
And no, I don't cut myself and my toxic version...might not? It's difficult to say
>Well obviously I disagree, I think it's the ideal and am much closer to the healthy version of myself than the toxic version.
Go on then, preach to me about why it is "morally correct" for people to act like whores. Spew your degenerate bullshit so I can tell you why you deserve to die.
Well, everyone should have sex like bonobos is the basic idea. Societal harmony caused by turning the world into a massive (hygenic) orgy where everyone loves each other and no one feels the need to own another human being.
Have you considered the fact that the vast majority of people are not disgusting subhumans like yourself?
I'm not going to fucking fuck men, or be fucked by men, and I'm not going to fuck a woman who is fucking other men either. I am not going to love men and I am not going to love a woman who loves another man.
Your insanity would require forcing every man to be a homosexual and every woman to be a dyke, and cucks on top of that. Slit your wrists.
Does the part of you that chases women actually make you happy though? Would you really keep it for any reason other than a sense of obligation?
The part of me that experiences sexual and romantic attraction definitely does make me happy and if I had to live without it I'd regret the loss
That's right, everyone should be a homosexual, dyke and cuck to the point where those words no longer have any meaning and there is no more jealousy.
I think that a healthy path through that particular mode, where an unhealthy version is what birthed Slaanesh, I think getting through that period and out the other side would be one of the integral aspects of ascending as a species and becoming more than just animals. If we could socio-intellectually digest the idea of inherently loving every other human being, that's like one of the infinity stones (I know, I know, soi reference) to becoming a higher-order species.
Another would be transcending traditional mortality and no longer needing to be pumping out tons of new children all the time to replace our population.
I'd just vanish into the machine.
healthy: incredibly caring femboy who wears cat ears and spends all day drawing
toxic: the judge from blood meridian
Racist vs Gay
The toxic part would be anxious, constantly avoiding things, completely repressed and totally shut down in social situations
I guess whats left is an obnoxiously self confident workaholic manwhore
I would be more motivated to draw and be creative, but I would also be a complete asshole, as I consider my empathy to be a toxic mindset. I'm way too caring so that I let my family trample all over me because of their own toxic behavior.
Healthy: not on Cinemaphile
Toxic: on Cinemaphile
healthy: not a pedophile
toxic: pedophile
Healthy: Sneed
Toxic: Chuck
Healthy: completely unempathetic but confident person who doesn't need validation from outside sources
Toxic: basically a venom with no benefits that schlorps onto people and drains them of all their will while making them feel bad for it by being a pathetic parasite
>healthy
Big brother type of figure, basically caring stoic guy that looks out for everyone, wants to see everyone be the best they can be and improve the world and themselves at large, very lead from the front and by example kind of guy
>unhealthy
Stalin but even more paranoid and callous, will write you off the second he perceives anything hostile or otherwise untrustworthy and will go to hell out of spite for some vague feeling towards it all that he doesn’t even fully understand
It just stays in bed all day and never moves.
Healthy: Alyosha from the Brothers Karamazov + Levin at the end of Anna Karenina
Toxic: Ivan from the Brothers Karamazov, with crippling self-doubt
Healthy: Practices discipline, takes losses well. Loving to family and friends, socially adept. Able to be vulnerable with people.
Toxic: Incredibly lazy, eats shit food, bad at managing money. Hyperparanoid. Probably also very fat long-term. Easily angered, self-harming behavior. Cries easily.
Healthy: Goncharov at the beginning of the movie
Unhealthy: Goncharov leading up to the final conflict of the film
Healthy me would be like healthy Morty not giving a fuck and toxic me would be like toxic Rick being constantly angry
I'm bipolar so I don't really have to guess
Healthy: calm and chill guy that has a passion for life and doesn’t procrastinate
Toxic: hyper emotional turbo autist and pervert that has the occasional violent outburst.
healthy: can goon for 80 hours non stop
toxic: a contrarian
Toxic: lazy fuck that sits around doing nothing
Healthy: already finished writing and illustrating his first comic and is doing studies as we speak, also extremely racist.
Okay but what if you went through the machine multiple times?
What does an entirely toxic, and entirely healthy persona think their toxic and healthy parts are?
I have a slight god complex where I genuinely believe I know what's best for everyone else. The problem is that I can't tell if the machine would consider that toxic or not.
Healthy Me: Much more calm and relaxed. I'd go with the flow more, and not let everything get to me.
TOxic Me: He's going to take everything personal, be mega paranoid, and look like they're cracked out to most people. Chances are he's going to be mega efficient though.
Healthy:
A mixture of Spock and Arnold from Hey Arnold (Logic + Empathy) little Buddha dude that is calmly but firmly passionate about the arts. Productive.
Toxic:
Guilt-ridden, paranoid and eternally overwhelmed lump of flesh. His day consists of thinking about how he never has time to do anything and how everything and everyone sucks, especially himself.
So... your toxic traits are the result of the pressures of omnipresent capitalism?
Not really, the issue is a serious case of (actual not pill pushing) ADHD/Inattentive. I’m basically this guy but actively trying to improve (in terms of connecting with others and accomplishing something more with myself).
As far as someone can without personally knowing someone, I'm proud of you for doing the hard work of trying to be more outgoing and social. It's hard work, and you deserve it being recognized and noted. I'm confident you can do this difficult but rewarding re-working of who you are as a person. It can be scary, but it's so worth it.
Thanks anon. It’s been a long road, but worth it so far. First step for me was a lot of self-forgiveness work and learning about what makes my mental situation different than others. Paradigms about how others think also helped me immensely.
If nothing else, I’m blessed with a lot of patience, which wasn’t too too hard to translate to self-forgiveness and empathy. The hard part wasn’t establishing goals/purpose or the mindset change (though it took time), it was applying it in a way that saw results. Still a battle, but I’m a lot farther along than I thought I could be when I was at my worst.
Healthy
>Funny
>Confident, but not arrogant
>Full of self-love
>Extremely motivated and status-driven
>Basically a sociopath, feels no real connection to anyone and doesn't care about what anyone else thinks
>Basically asexual and aromantic
>Extremely level-headed and rational
>Charismatic and socially engaging
>Passionate and driven
>Extremely positive and optimistic, can only see the good in everyone
>Can comfortably slot into any social system or hierarchy without chafing
>In complete self-control, all about routine and order, emotionally stable
>Eats healthily and in moderation, doesn't give a shit about unhealthy foods
>Has a healthy view of family and patriarchal figures, respects authority
Toxic
>Extreme self-loathing
>Depressed to the point of non-function
>Apathetic or antipathetic about everything, has no positive thoughts or sentiments about anyone or anything, can only see the worst in everyone
>Ruled almost entirely by what other people think of him, constantly yearns for attention and approval
>Addicted to sex, porn and junk food, constant binging
>Cold and aloof towards everyone
>Emotionally volatile in the extreme, constant mood swings
>Would bend over backwards for a sliver of female affection
>Hates all patriarchal figures with an almost homicidal rage, has zero respect for family
>Hates anyone happier, healthier or luckier than him, cannot abide people acting like they're better than him
>Complete nihilistic anarchist, literally cannot obey orders or function under laws, seeks to escape or destroy any system that has power over him
>Always angry and perpetually pessimistic
I should add some more negative traits to my healthy side
Healthy
>Extremely competitive with a compulsive need to dominate and exert superiority over others
>Non-political and unempathetic, typical seflish "I got mine, fuck you" philosophy
>Basically sees himself as a god able to shape the world however he sees fit, like a motivational speaker turned up to 11
Toxic
>Submissive and non-competitive in the extreme, sees all competition as futile and all victory as fleeting and is convinced he'd lose anyway
>Gets wrapped up in agendas and political causes to the point of excess, cares too much about every little thing, constantly warring with the system
>Fatalistic and defeatist mentality, believes he has lost just by virtue of being born
The trick is that you need traits that you consider "toxic" that are actually healthy and "positive" traits that you value, yet are ultimately dangerous. I think you dialed into it by emphasizing a sort of superiority of others. I'm going to assume you think it's for their benefit, despite it ultimately being selfish/controlling behavior. Morty's version of good wasn't necessarily bad, but he was an absolute sociopath when it comes to getting what he wants. He's caring, open, and honest, but he's also vindictive (which he didn't view as toxic).
Yeah, the way I did it was that I took the toxic traits and dialled them up to 11 for the toxic version of myself and then figured what the healthy version of myself would be in the complete absence of those traits, for better or worse. You do need a little bit of toxicity to keep yourself in check, after all
That's a very informed and self-aware perspective, which I applaud.
>Me but cool
>Me but cringe
I think the whole point of the episode was that the part of you you would reject and remove WOULDN'T be cringe, it would be an integral part of yourself that you need. "healthy morty" wasn't actually healthy, and neither was "healthy rick".
I would just, in my entirety, wind up in the detoxifying machine. Nothing would come back out.
It's cool that the 8-ball monster from Gravity Falls was in the tank. Shoutouts to background artists who aren't as insufferable as the writers.
Does anyone else think that the "heathy" version of themselves would be fucking dangerous? I can't imagine someone that is keeping all my confidence and removing all my self-doubt. Like I wouldn't be a sociopath, but I'd be far more assured in EVERY decision I make. For better or worse. That's fucking scary.
Ironically, Toxic Morty is basically how I'd be right before I went to college. Just a big ball of guilt, shame, and self loathing. Crippling insecurity. Chances are he'd be easy to talk to though because he'd be such a fucking people pleaser.
Kinda funny that non-toxic Morty actually gave a healthy remark about the idea of coming back to Jessica while his true version fell right back into begging for her attention
"You miss the old me. You miss someone that loved you so much, you never had to love him back."
I had to cut someone out of my life because of how fucking toxic she was. She literally used me up in every way possible (financially, socially, occupationally, emotionally) and then when she extracted the last bit of benefit she could, she ghosted me and hooked up with someone she "told me not to worry about". At that point I just switched off. She was dead to me. I was DONE with her. And to say that caused her to fucking panic and try to scramble to get my attention was shocking. She even sent me a message a year later to try and "explain herself". And all I was thinking of that fucking Morty quote. Once I heard that quote spoken I knew what kind of bitch she was. I'm thankful for that.
Jesus christ, sorry you had to deal with that. glad you moved on.
the other quote comes to mind too
"How do you know I don't wanna love you?"
"Because I'm not sick."
And she only called him to bait him into being tracked