Me, too, but with Valerie, college-era April or a reformed Saz. I want to see entire feature films about those three, I think the Dartmouth episode would have been kino as a whole movie, even if we would have to sit through a "liar reveal" third act where Mark turns out to not be a real student.
He actually gets a fair amount of sex and female interest, as well as having a decent job and a flat bought outright.
Not to mention still being able to hang out with your best friend every day after the age of 25 and said friend sorts various parties and social opportunities for you.
Mark had a good life.
Wasn't that the point of the show?
Mark has all of these good points and opportunities to make his life even better and refuses to do so because he is so passive, focused on the shit parts and never leaves his comfort zone
If he was more assertive and had the ability to actually confront people about issues the show wouldn't exist at all
Nice quads btw
>If he was more assertive and had the ability to actually confront people about issues the show wouldn't exist at all
Pretty sure that's why Jeff exists as a character. He's basically just a more assertive version of Mark.
>If he was more assertive and had the ability to actually confront people about issues the show wouldn't exist at all
That happens in an episode where he gets a sudden jolt of confidence after learning he's (apparently) not having Sophie's baby, he then easily scores Dobby and is about to frick her only to return to his neurotic self when Jez tells him the truth
I miss him and Jezz the real Peep show that its before the ghey killed it forever. It was life it was art but it also made me laugh so hard I could not breathe
I want to frick his wife while he listens to her moan my name from outside.
He's such an unfunny cuck and his wife is way too good for him.
I'll frick Victoria Coren-Mitchell and make him listen.
Bit of context you might be missing fellow virgin zoomie
Millennials do nothing but have life-ruining, intimacy-destroying sex. They're ridiculously promiscuous but forever alone as a result (unsurprising when the bulk of their intimate interactions are just to use people)
Additionally, it is wildly easy to get laid, not so easy to be a likable person. The former only requires desperation, the latter requires genuine effort to always be the best person you can be, always improve, always look out for the people around you.
Finally, imagine for a second that you were getting constantly laid, but constantly failed to find love. This mental dissonance and growing understanding that you're merely being used for your body would corrode your self worth, self respect, and your dignity, leading you to further overestimate how truly pathetic and loserish you may be. Be you incel, volcel or whatever, you retain more control over your body and more self respect if you're not throwing it at anything that even slightly whiffs of clunge.
All this combines to make it pure millennial coomer-core, which is why they love it so much and find it so relatable. To our generation instead, abject disconnection both emotional and physical is much more commonplace, so it's harder to understand. >t. got friends of all ages, the jaded millennial coomer bros all fricking love Peep Show
Gigachad isn't my masculinity model, that would be this motherfricker. I just used the gigachad image to bump the thread, don't lump me in with the new masculinity Andrew Tate tards man.
Nah, just a volcel who women keep throwing themselves at. It's really unsettling and unnerving once you get over the initial ego trip - I intentionally distance myselves from roasties and the like, and then they get even more interested cause women are backwards creatures who cannot handle having the centre of attention stolen from them.
There's plenty of roasties with Habsburg jaws out there and hamplanets orbited by wienerstellations, and they all still frick. Like I said, the only requirement is desperation.
Zoomers and incels are going to seethe at this post, but it's correct. Same idea as those threads where anons seethe at the idea of sex addiction being real. Especially if you live in a big city, once you get a taste of how easy it is to pull even hot chicks at clubs and such, you have two options: cut it off before it becomes an addiction, or ride down that road and ruin every relationship you have for the sake of pulling new pussy every night. There was a point in my life where my only "friends" were the girls I was spinning.
This mirrors my dating history. Sex on-tap from first date, it's over in a few months. Never had a relationship that involved regular sex last more than a few months. That's not hedonism though, people want intimacy FAST like mcdonalds drive thru. Then after a few weeks the cracks appear, no foundation, don't really know each other, it's over after the first fight. At least in my experience, but I exclusively date women who are attracted to me, so who is really at fault here?
Honestly anon I don't think it's right to say anyone's at fault, mistakes are mistakes, you're only really to blame if you keep making em even after learning from em.
Cringe and gay advice, but try laying off dating for a while, for a good year or so, and develop friendships and actual connections with women who you're not only attracted to and vice versa, but who you can actually get along with while not horny/lonely/empty-feeling. You'll probably begin to seethe about your luck with women as much as I do, but it'll pay off down the line if it's a genuine friendship. I've been keeping to myself for more or less half a decade now, even moreso this past year or so where I haven't felt anything romantic that lasted more than a minute, but the close friendships I've developed with certain women that I hold in high esteem have only gotten closer. Two of them have already hinted at the idea of marrying me someday, and even if there's no major physical manifestations of it, I guess I do feel genuinely loved by them.
See how that goes for you, if it doesn't work then your money back. Might take a while to figure out precisely who you work well with and what constitutes actually clicking with someone versus what's just you being good at maintaining polite inoffensive small talk with chatterboxes, but I'm confident you'll get there in the end bro.
This. I got to a point where yes I was meeting women and dating but no matter how much of a good person I was or me doing the right thing. They all ended up being terrible people and I realized I'd have to accept their awful behavior and I couldn't do it. Women are fricking lunatics nowadays and they think it's normal and you're the bad guy for not wanting them. Luckily men can live a successful and happy life alone, women cannot it breaks them mentally being alone.
Yeah, a girl at my job was flirting with me, but I knew she'd fricked others in the company so I just tried to be friends. One day I told her about a girl I was flirting with and within the week she used our work group chat to try and throw me under the bus, saying i was badmouthing etc. I got 15 years experience on that dumb c**t though and Ops ripped her a new butthole over it. It still left a stink on me and probably cost me a promotion though. I transferred out and she's up to her old shenanigans again with some new guy. Women are caustic in workplaces and friendship groups.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Here's the lesson: in white collar work always have sex with every new woman who walks through the door, and treat them very well after hours. Before covid I had like five or six work girlfriends at a time, and they'd get catty about each other, but within work hours they'd all die on the hill for me. As white collar work becomes more and more feminized, women naturally take an interest in guys who both get around and get shit done in the office. Infamy becomes a good thing. It's fricked, but it works, and the men (AKA the ones who actually matter) find it interesting too. Probably difficult to do for the married man, but for a single guy it's really not difficult to get office girls on your side. And disclaimer, I'm perpetually skinnyfat so don't use that excuse.
You may be called cringe man, but you have a good head on your shoulders.
Long lasting good relationships are better than short flings. Genuine empathy is a valued trait.
Forget it man these guys don’t want to be human, they want to compulsively fornicating chimps, absentee fathers, and hedonists with no perspective outside their own egocentrism.
They are quite literally representative of people other than myself, particularly since many of my friendships exist outside of unifying groups or cliques. At any rate, this is my honest observation of what occurs with reasonable regularity and what drives these people who identify so strongly with Peep Show
Anecdotal evidence is like, by definition unable to be representative.
It works like this, you might make choices that lead you to have certain friend groups (being a loser volcel on Cinemaphile means you're certainly not representative of the average person), and your interpretation of your friends and their lives will be colored by who you are and your perspective (again, see volcel), which will likely lead you to have a flawed perception of your friends and their lives.
This is dumb. How are you supposed to feel fulfilled and 'normal' if you live your life literally always and constantly feeling undesired, from lack of of the most fundamental aspects of living as a person? Love is an ideal goal for sure, but below all that, below everything is the biological need to have sex and fulfill that reproductive urge. If you never get that, your brain is always telling you something is wrong, and you become depressive over it. We're not lobsters. We're deeply ingrained social creatures, and we need that validation of desirability at the very minimum to fulfill that biological urge. That sense of self that says "yes, I am worthy because I was able to attract a mate and (potentially) reproduce". Without it, we are lost.
Now don't get me wrong, you are not entirely incorrect, but you neglect this other side as well, of abject failure and loneliness from lack of anything at all.
This. It was way easier to get laid 10/20 years ago. I had fat ugly friends in the early noughties who were literally their class punching bag who ended the decade married with kids. Half of them were still fat and ugly when they got hitched.
You know the actor bagged the biggest breasted, intelligent, sardonic, cigar-smoking, poker-playing woman in all of the kingdom, right anon? Victoria Coren Mitchell makes me fricking diamonds even in her current frumpy state.
You need to understand that Cinemaphile is the lowest of the low in society. Even the people you thought of as losers in high school would be repulsed by this website
What are the best drugs for making women interesting? The attractive ones are usually boring to talk to and when I do go out parties/clubs/bars I'd rather shoot the shit with muh bros.
I jerk off a lot so maybe the secret is to abstain for a while until I'm horny enough to handle how boring most women are.
>talking to women
The only interesting thing about 90% of women is when they get boozed up and get horny enough to start getting adventurous in public.
Don’t hang around prostitutes if you’re not sincerely interested to frick them. They can tell. Women are dumb about a lot of shit but they’re not dumb about people, that’s their specialty. At the very least go to a concert of a band you like, you will meet prostitutes but at least you will have a common interest.
Work, social events, recreational activities like sports, through other friends, school, etc.
Like I get that you're socially isolated but there are options here
My starting point is that incels and other socially isolated people who are fixated on women as a means to get, essentially, social validation are fundamentally misguided. They're trying to run before they can even stand up.
And because they, in my view, usually much bigger emotional problems than mere "i don't have sex", like anxiety issues, depression, hatred, lack of interests, lack of social understanding, etc. they should rather focus on fundamentals like personality, mental health, social skills, and then building on that to form real relationships with other people which entails treating them as actual human beings, not merely as sources of approval.
It's important to note that all these emotional issues actually make the social isolation/incelitude worse, and should be dealt with -first-. These issues are what is having a significant effect on you being an incel/not being socially well-adjusted, not the other way around.
Incels focus on these issues and imagine that these things are caused by lack of sex itself, but they're mistaken.
Focusing on mental health would be better for you as a person and, incidentally, a better way of "getting women", since treating people (men and women) as objects and means to an end is not actually a good strategy for creating and -maintaining- relationships, and meeting new people gets easier the more relationships you already have.
Yeah but you're forgetting since #metoo flirting or attempting to ask a woman out is considered rape nowadays especially if you aren't a Chad. Plus thanks to tinder even the 4/10 nerdy girl has a small nation of orbiters simping for her that she can easily rotate through and does. I worked with this 4/10, nerdy girl and she showed me the HUNDREDS of simps begging for her attention.
Flirting or asking people out is not considered rape anon, it's quite normal for well-adjusted people.
You've just had your brain poisoned by incel ideology meant to isolate and radicalize you further by providing an easy excuse and an enemy for things not going your way.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is such bollocks, they are all sort of seriously mentally ill people having boat loads of sex because they enjoy the social interaction, the chase and the flirting. Incels just have a phobia flirting. If you try to flirt while in an high anxiety state it reads like a zombie and the opposite of fun so b***hes get creeped out. It's impossible for a man to get laid if he can't happily flirt to some degree. Unless you think every chav getting a blowie tonight is some bastion of mental wellbeing and life success?
I am sad that Webb didn't get more of a career after his partnership with Mitchell. David Mitchell is obviously the more talented of the two, but I quite like Webb. It's kind of unfair what happened to him.
Webb is too much of an ideologue even for woke media types. It's his own fault really.
1 year ago
Anonymous
NTA. Incels have a phobia of rejection. In my mid-20s I pulled at least one chick every week for a solid couple years. Do you have any idea how many years it took to develop the ability to do that? Even then, I still got rejected a ton. Flirting is a muscle - a skill - like anything else. And yes, you can take it too far and suffer the psychological consequences of it, as per your example, but let's not invoke whataboutism and pretend that lonely men wouldn't benefit from practicing getting a couple one-night stands just for the socialization. Incels have incredibly high pride relative to their positions in life. The best thing you can do as a man is to appreciate the interaction itself, without expectation. Some of the funniest times I've had with my buddies is telling them how I tried to frick a chick and got blocked, or having them see me get totally rejected at a club or something. Another reason it's important to make friends before trying to get a GF.
Most workplaces I've worked at usually have some after-work social activities, either organised by the workplace occasionally or spontaneously by employees. That's a good chance to make new friends. There are clubs you can join based on interests, courses you can take, etc.
Like if you're seriously this socially isolated, focus on making friends first and expanding your social circles, because it's easier to make friends when you already have some.
If you have trouble making friends, ask yourself why that is. Are people uncomfortable around you, are you not fun to be around, and why, and then change yourself for the better.
Some real genuine, critical hard core introspection does wonders for self-change, although to be honest I think most people that are extremely socially isolated need therapy to really get the ball rolling, since in my experience extreme social isolation is probably a result of, and is in itself, a trauma that takes a long time to deal with.
That needs social and emotional skills that are actively harmed by isolation.
>Like I get that you're socially isolated but there are options here
Normalgay doesn't get it
I was super depressed and pretty isolated with not many friends at all (and none that I really liked) from like, 11-18. I had a lot of issues making friends until a couple of years ago, I feel like the only real social connection I've had was university.
I don't know if I had it as bad as you, or if you have it as bad as I had, but I do think I get it, even if I know not everyone has the luxury of going to university with other smart people that are interested in similar things.
reading this made me realize i have zero friends now
guess i am fricked until i move out of this rural town if i ever can
>Like I get that you're socially isolated but there are options here
Normalgay doesn't get it
Most workplaces I've worked at usually have some after-work social activities, either organised by the workplace occasionally or spontaneously by employees. That's a good chance to make new friends. There are clubs you can join based on interests, courses you can take, etc.
Like if you're seriously this socially isolated, focus on making friends first and expanding your social circles, because it's easier to make friends when you already have some.
If you have trouble making friends, ask yourself why that is. Are people uncomfortable around you, are you not fun to be around, and why, and then change yourself for the better.
Some real genuine, critical hard core introspection does wonders for self-change, although to be honest I think most people that are extremely socially isolated need therapy to really get the ball rolling, since in my experience extreme social isolation is probably a result of, and is in itself, a trauma that takes a long time to deal with.
That needs social and emotional skills that are actively harmed by isolation.
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I was super depressed and pretty isolated with not many friends at all (and none that I really liked) from like, 11-18. I had a lot of issues making friends until a couple of years ago, I feel like the only real social connection I've had was university.
I don't know if I had it as bad as you, or if you have it as bad as I had, but I do think I get it, even if I know not everyone has the luxury of going to university with other smart people that are interested in similar things.
I'm also talking about making friends with specfically women too btw, having girl friends (WHO YOU DO NOT FRICK) is always better than guy friends.
Yeah but you're forgetting since #metoo flirting or attempting to ask a woman out is considered rape nowadays especially if you aren't a Chad. Plus thanks to tinder even the 4/10 nerdy girl has a small nation of orbiters simping for her that she can easily rotate through and does. I worked with this 4/10, nerdy girl and she showed me the HUNDREDS of simps begging for her attention.
the idea of what being a "loser" entailed has changed drastically within the past 20 years.
back in, say, 2003 and before, a loser was a man who had a middling paying job, had no long-term relationship, rented a spacious apartment instead of owned a house, and only had maybe 5 or so friends.
a "loser" today is a man who's a virgin into his mid 20s, has no friends, has no job, still lives with his parents, plays video games all day, and hasn't interacted with a woman in years.
what constitutes as a loser today, would be absolutely incomprehensible to people just 20 years ago.
I think the modern standard wasn't uncommon back then, but it hadn't reached a critical mass where privileged tv writers were as aware of the archetype. Also the proliferation of the internet gave these people a place to talk and prove they exist whereas before their isolation masked them.
It's also to a degree a cultural thing. The change is more pronounced in America where moving out asap was standard and comparatively expected. But in other relatively rich countries like Italy living at home way past 18 has always been pretty common even for people doing alright.
Of course falling wages and quality of life after the West allowed the brutal destruction of organized labour to own the commies is behind the increase that has happened. Even for autists living at home there's more incentive to at least get any job if it makes more money.
>Of course falling wages and quality of life after the West allowed the brutal destruction of organized labour to own the commies is behind the increase that has happened.
Yeah that's the idea with capitalism. Organized labour and labour militancy is the only force that can ever push against that and resist their agenda domestically.
this is true.
the thing is, as the cultural zeitgeist has shifted, what was once considered being a "loser" is now more-or-less considered being a normal functional person. mark wouldn't be considered a loser in today's world. being able to afford a spacious apartment with enough disposable income for literally anything else makes him somewhat prosperous in todays world. as a result, the spotlight of loserdom has shifter to those who truly are the irredeemable dregs of society.
people back in the day had no idea how good they had it,.
Having sex really isn't an achievement
The very first caveman troglodyte ever created most definitely had sex at least once
So really not having sex reflects a lot more poorly on you than you think
This. The last decade for me has been >A girl flirts with me >We date >She cheats on me >Go 2 to 3 years not even interacting with a woman >Girl flirts with me >We date >She cheats on me >Go 2 to 3 years not even interacting with women
I'm on year 3 currently. I live a very confusing life
>has sex >multiple girlfriends >decent job >nice flat with a bro >had a social life >goes on adventures >goes to parties >But! He's a bit socially awkward! >LOL WHAT A LOSER, AM I RIGHT, AUDIENCE??
I remember watching this and seething so much back in the day because of this. The writers did not realise how far things had gone.
I really want to punch David Mitchell.
He's tolerable compared to 80% of panel show rotisserie chickens but damn him and that wanker who was cucked by Mr. Bean need a punch.
Funny how Mark and Jezz’s actors are the complete opposites of their characters IRL
>David Mitchell has a successful writing and acting career, writes for several newspapers and is married to a successful world poker champion milf >Robert Webb’s hairline has been annihilated, he can only get gigs on shitty light entertainment clip shows and writes books about toxic masculinity
I am sad that Webb didn't get more of a career after his partnership with Mitchell. David Mitchell is obviously the more talented of the two, but I quite like Webb. It's kind of unfair what happened to him.
Literally every wannabe femcel series. LARPing as a failure when they have a $5000 flat and sex with two different men or women an episode.
It's a 2 bedroom flat, one is a box room, in a shitty part of London.
Yes everything in London is moronic expensive but you're still exaggerating,
>Literally every wannabe femcel series
Chance would be a fine thing.
that place is a shithole even by eastern euro commieblock standards. what are you talking about.
and the women he has sex with are 3s on a good day.
They live a couple of buses away from central London, mate. It's a great location, except for the Urban Youth.
>they’re not real leper’s like me because they have sex
Get over yourself
lmao rent free you stupid fricking moron get your reading comprehension checked
Third episode, anon.
With a teenage girl!
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and remember he could have turned his whole life around by nailing the milf from his business class.
He could've turned his life around by not burning that dog with Jez and then getting the job managing a call center in India.
Oh yeah anon, true happiness awaits in an Indian call centre
What is India like for first world white people? Would it be a nice place where everything is super cheap, or somehow worse than first world living?
Sometimes that just leaves you in a worse state.
He still would have been miserable in the end. That's how that type works.
Me, too, but with Valerie, college-era April or a reformed Saz. I want to see entire feature films about those three, I think the Dartmouth episode would have been kino as a whole movie, even if we would have to sit through a "liar reveal" third act where Mark turns out to not be a real student.
He actually gets a fair amount of sex and female interest, as well as having a decent job and a flat bought outright.
Not to mention still being able to hang out with your best friend every day after the age of 25 and said friend sorts various parties and social opportunities for you.
Mark had a good life.
Wasn't that the point of the show?
Mark has all of these good points and opportunities to make his life even better and refuses to do so because he is so passive, focused on the shit parts and never leaves his comfort zone
If he was more assertive and had the ability to actually confront people about issues the show wouldn't exist at all
Nice quads btw
>If he was more assertive and had the ability to actually confront people about issues the show wouldn't exist at all
Pretty sure that's why Jeff exists as a character. He's basically just a more assertive version of Mark.
>If he was more assertive and had the ability to actually confront people about issues the show wouldn't exist at all
That happens in an episode where he gets a sudden jolt of confidence after learning he's (apparently) not having Sophie's baby, he then easily scores Dobby and is about to frick her only to return to his neurotic self when Jez tells him the truth
I miss him and Jezz the real Peep show that its before the ghey killed it forever. It was life it was art but it also made me laugh so hard I could not breathe
He's vaxxed. Rest in peace David.
>Four jabs! Four! That's insane!
>Four jabs! Four! That's insane!
Five jabs! Perfectly fine!
I want to frick his wife while he listens to her moan my name from outside.
He's such an unfunny cuck and his wife is way too good for him.
I'll frick Victoria Coren-Mitchell and make him listen.
shes a rich israelite
The missus likes to watch Only Connect and thinks I join her because I like the quiz.
She's wrong. I want to look at Victoria's massive breasts.
Honestly David lucked out, she's got a great body and amazing personality. She was rather good on Taskmaster as well.
Mark’s in that special area between social groups. Too normal for the weirdos but too weird for the normies.
Bit of context you might be missing fellow virgin zoomie
Millennials do nothing but have life-ruining, intimacy-destroying sex. They're ridiculously promiscuous but forever alone as a result (unsurprising when the bulk of their intimate interactions are just to use people)
Additionally, it is wildly easy to get laid, not so easy to be a likable person. The former only requires desperation, the latter requires genuine effort to always be the best person you can be, always improve, always look out for the people around you.
Finally, imagine for a second that you were getting constantly laid, but constantly failed to find love. This mental dissonance and growing understanding that you're merely being used for your body would corrode your self worth, self respect, and your dignity, leading you to further overestimate how truly pathetic and loserish you may be. Be you incel, volcel or whatever, you retain more control over your body and more self respect if you're not throwing it at anything that even slightly whiffs of clunge.
All this combines to make it pure millennial coomer-core, which is why they love it so much and find it so relatable. To our generation instead, abject disconnection both emotional and physical is much more commonplace, so it's harder to understand.
>t. got friends of all ages, the jaded millennial coomer bros all fricking love Peep Show
Nah, sex is fun
Yes, but that's no reason to abandon all sense and care for the future in favour of short term stimulation.
Strawmam
My Black person how is it a strawman argument if I'm not making a goddamn argument
>this is your mind on pointless outrage
Your masculinity model is a literal cgi render. Didn´t read, opinion discarded, kys
Gigachad isn't my masculinity model, that would be this motherfricker. I just used the gigachad image to bump the thread, don't lump me in with the new masculinity Andrew Tate tards man.
Replaced the word gay with stupid so you can post it on your social media? Frick off nogger homosexual.
>the old man thinks people still use social media
Sad!
>it's wildly easy to get laid
Roastie hands typed this
Nah, just a volcel who women keep throwing themselves at. It's really unsettling and unnerving once you get over the initial ego trip - I intentionally distance myselves from roasties and the like, and then they get even more interested cause women are backwards creatures who cannot handle having the centre of attention stolen from them.
There's plenty of roasties with Habsburg jaws out there and hamplanets orbited by wienerstellations, and they all still frick. Like I said, the only requirement is desperation.
Zoomers and incels are going to seethe at this post, but it's correct. Same idea as those threads where anons seethe at the idea of sex addiction being real. Especially if you live in a big city, once you get a taste of how easy it is to pull even hot chicks at clubs and such, you have two options: cut it off before it becomes an addiction, or ride down that road and ruin every relationship you have for the sake of pulling new pussy every night. There was a point in my life where my only "friends" were the girls I was spinning.
Sorry to hear it anon, glad you're beyond it and helping with trying to warn people though, so thanks for your contribution bro
This mirrors my dating history. Sex on-tap from first date, it's over in a few months. Never had a relationship that involved regular sex last more than a few months. That's not hedonism though, people want intimacy FAST like mcdonalds drive thru. Then after a few weeks the cracks appear, no foundation, don't really know each other, it's over after the first fight. At least in my experience, but I exclusively date women who are attracted to me, so who is really at fault here?
Honestly anon I don't think it's right to say anyone's at fault, mistakes are mistakes, you're only really to blame if you keep making em even after learning from em.
Cringe and gay advice, but try laying off dating for a while, for a good year or so, and develop friendships and actual connections with women who you're not only attracted to and vice versa, but who you can actually get along with while not horny/lonely/empty-feeling. You'll probably begin to seethe about your luck with women as much as I do, but it'll pay off down the line if it's a genuine friendship. I've been keeping to myself for more or less half a decade now, even moreso this past year or so where I haven't felt anything romantic that lasted more than a minute, but the close friendships I've developed with certain women that I hold in high esteem have only gotten closer. Two of them have already hinted at the idea of marrying me someday, and even if there's no major physical manifestations of it, I guess I do feel genuinely loved by them.
See how that goes for you, if it doesn't work then your money back. Might take a while to figure out precisely who you work well with and what constitutes actually clicking with someone versus what's just you being good at maintaining polite inoffensive small talk with chatterboxes, but I'm confident you'll get there in the end bro.
>stop dating
I stopped 5 years ago man. I'm not interested anymore.
I don't really blame anyone, it is what it is.
Fair enough man, it's you and me both then.
This. I got to a point where yes I was meeting women and dating but no matter how much of a good person I was or me doing the right thing. They all ended up being terrible people and I realized I'd have to accept their awful behavior and I couldn't do it. Women are fricking lunatics nowadays and they think it's normal and you're the bad guy for not wanting them. Luckily men can live a successful and happy life alone, women cannot it breaks them mentally being alone.
You got to find yourself a trad foreign woman that hasn’t been brainwashed by israelites.
Yeah, a girl at my job was flirting with me, but I knew she'd fricked others in the company so I just tried to be friends. One day I told her about a girl I was flirting with and within the week she used our work group chat to try and throw me under the bus, saying i was badmouthing etc. I got 15 years experience on that dumb c**t though and Ops ripped her a new butthole over it. It still left a stink on me and probably cost me a promotion though. I transferred out and she's up to her old shenanigans again with some new guy. Women are caustic in workplaces and friendship groups.
Here's the lesson: in white collar work always have sex with every new woman who walks through the door, and treat them very well after hours. Before covid I had like five or six work girlfriends at a time, and they'd get catty about each other, but within work hours they'd all die on the hill for me. As white collar work becomes more and more feminized, women naturally take an interest in guys who both get around and get shit done in the office. Infamy becomes a good thing. It's fricked, but it works, and the men (AKA the ones who actually matter) find it interesting too. Probably difficult to do for the married man, but for a single guy it's really not difficult to get office girls on your side. And disclaimer, I'm perpetually skinnyfat so don't use that excuse.
You may be called cringe man, but you have a good head on your shoulders.
Long lasting good relationships are better than short flings. Genuine empathy is a valued trait.
Forget it man these guys don’t want to be human, they want to compulsively fornicating chimps, absentee fathers, and hedonists with no perspective outside their own egocentrism.
Your friend groups are not representative of reality or other people.
They are quite literally representative of people other than myself, particularly since many of my friendships exist outside of unifying groups or cliques. At any rate, this is my honest observation of what occurs with reasonable regularity and what drives these people who identify so strongly with Peep Show
Anecdotal evidence is like, by definition unable to be representative.
It works like this, you might make choices that lead you to have certain friend groups (being a loser volcel on Cinemaphile means you're certainly not representative of the average person), and your interpretation of your friends and their lives will be colored by who you are and your perspective (again, see volcel), which will likely lead you to have a flawed perception of your friends and their lives.
the puritan virgin inexperienced teenager shares his wisdom
This is dumb. How are you supposed to feel fulfilled and 'normal' if you live your life literally always and constantly feeling undesired, from lack of of the most fundamental aspects of living as a person? Love is an ideal goal for sure, but below all that, below everything is the biological need to have sex and fulfill that reproductive urge. If you never get that, your brain is always telling you something is wrong, and you become depressive over it. We're not lobsters. We're deeply ingrained social creatures, and we need that validation of desirability at the very minimum to fulfill that biological urge. That sense of self that says "yes, I am worthy because I was able to attract a mate and (potentially) reproduce". Without it, we are lost.
Now don't get me wrong, you are not entirely incorrect, but you neglect this other side as well, of abject failure and loneliness from lack of anything at all.
It was a different time. The forces of modernity werent as advanced.
This. It was way easier to get laid 10/20 years ago. I had fat ugly friends in the early noughties who were literally their class punching bag who ended the decade married with kids. Half of them were still fat and ugly when they got hitched.
You know the actor bagged the biggest breasted, intelligent, sardonic, cigar-smoking, poker-playing woman in all of the kingdom, right anon? Victoria Coren Mitchell makes me fricking diamonds even in her current frumpy state.
You can be a miserable loser and still have sex. Anyway it's irrelevant, because it's a television series and not reality.
You need to understand that Cinemaphile is the lowest of the low in society. Even the people you thought of as losers in high school would be repulsed by this website
I was the most popular guy in my high school.
twitter is worse
if you meet enough women you will eventually get laid
people on tis asian basket weaving forum never meet any women and will remain virgins forever
>just like, go meet women, dude
OH OK
I'LL JUST MOSEY ON DOWN THE WOMEN STORE, PARD'
parties, clubs and dating sites
you won't meet women in your room or while grocery shopping
What are the best drugs for making women interesting? The attractive ones are usually boring to talk to and when I do go out parties/clubs/bars I'd rather shoot the shit with muh bros.
I jerk off a lot so maybe the secret is to abstain for a while until I'm horny enough to handle how boring most women are.
>talking to women
The only interesting thing about 90% of women is when they get boozed up and get horny enough to start getting adventurous in public.
Don’t hang around prostitutes if you’re not sincerely interested to frick them. They can tell. Women are dumb about a lot of shit but they’re not dumb about people, that’s their specialty. At the very least go to a concert of a band you like, you will meet prostitutes but at least you will have a common interest.
MDMA for sure
That's not Big Suz
Work, social events, recreational activities like sports, through other friends, school, etc.
Like I get that you're socially isolated but there are options here
Boomers
This. On par with their usual advice JUST DO THE THING I DID AND IT JUST WORKS OKAY!!
My starting point is that incels and other socially isolated people who are fixated on women as a means to get, essentially, social validation are fundamentally misguided. They're trying to run before they can even stand up.
And because they, in my view, usually much bigger emotional problems than mere "i don't have sex", like anxiety issues, depression, hatred, lack of interests, lack of social understanding, etc. they should rather focus on fundamentals like personality, mental health, social skills, and then building on that to form real relationships with other people which entails treating them as actual human beings, not merely as sources of approval.
It's important to note that all these emotional issues actually make the social isolation/incelitude worse, and should be dealt with -first-. These issues are what is having a significant effect on you being an incel/not being socially well-adjusted, not the other way around.
Incels focus on these issues and imagine that these things are caused by lack of sex itself, but they're mistaken.
Focusing on mental health would be better for you as a person and, incidentally, a better way of "getting women", since treating people (men and women) as objects and means to an end is not actually a good strategy for creating and -maintaining- relationships, and meeting new people gets easier the more relationships you already have.
Flirting or asking people out is not considered rape anon, it's quite normal for well-adjusted people.
You've just had your brain poisoned by incel ideology meant to isolate and radicalize you further by providing an easy excuse and an enemy for things not going your way.
This is such bollocks, they are all sort of seriously mentally ill people having boat loads of sex because they enjoy the social interaction, the chase and the flirting. Incels just have a phobia flirting. If you try to flirt while in an high anxiety state it reads like a zombie and the opposite of fun so b***hes get creeped out. It's impossible for a man to get laid if he can't happily flirt to some degree. Unless you think every chav getting a blowie tonight is some bastion of mental wellbeing and life success?
Webb is too much of an ideologue even for woke media types. It's his own fault really.
NTA. Incels have a phobia of rejection. In my mid-20s I pulled at least one chick every week for a solid couple years. Do you have any idea how many years it took to develop the ability to do that? Even then, I still got rejected a ton. Flirting is a muscle - a skill - like anything else. And yes, you can take it too far and suffer the psychological consequences of it, as per your example, but let's not invoke whataboutism and pretend that lonely men wouldn't benefit from practicing getting a couple one-night stands just for the socialization. Incels have incredibly high pride relative to their positions in life. The best thing you can do as a man is to appreciate the interaction itself, without expectation. Some of the funniest times I've had with my buddies is telling them how I tried to frick a chick and got blocked, or having them see me get totally rejected at a club or something. Another reason it's important to make friends before trying to get a GF.
>social events
like what?
Most workplaces I've worked at usually have some after-work social activities, either organised by the workplace occasionally or spontaneously by employees. That's a good chance to make new friends. There are clubs you can join based on interests, courses you can take, etc.
Like if you're seriously this socially isolated, focus on making friends first and expanding your social circles, because it's easier to make friends when you already have some.
If you have trouble making friends, ask yourself why that is. Are people uncomfortable around you, are you not fun to be around, and why, and then change yourself for the better.
Some real genuine, critical hard core introspection does wonders for self-change, although to be honest I think most people that are extremely socially isolated need therapy to really get the ball rolling, since in my experience extreme social isolation is probably a result of, and is in itself, a trauma that takes a long time to deal with.
That needs social and emotional skills that are actively harmed by isolation.
I was super depressed and pretty isolated with not many friends at all (and none that I really liked) from like, 11-18. I had a lot of issues making friends until a couple of years ago, I feel like the only real social connection I've had was university.
I don't know if I had it as bad as you, or if you have it as bad as I had, but I do think I get it, even if I know not everyone has the luxury of going to university with other smart people that are interested in similar things.
I'm also talking about making friends with specfically women too btw, having girl friends (WHO YOU DO NOT FRICK) is always better than guy friends.
reading this made me realize i have zero friends now
guess i am fricked until i move out of this rural town if i ever can
>Like I get that you're socially isolated but there are options here
Normalgay doesn't get it
You wouldn't hate other people so much if you actually tried in life. You can join a club or be active in a community tomorrow or even today.
Yeah but you're forgetting since #metoo flirting or attempting to ask a woman out is considered rape nowadays especially if you aren't a Chad. Plus thanks to tinder even the 4/10 nerdy girl has a small nation of orbiters simping for her that she can easily rotate through and does. I worked with this 4/10, nerdy girl and she showed me the HUNDREDS of simps begging for her attention.
Imagine having a mind this mentally colonised by embittered teenagers on LULZ and incel subreddits lmao
chance would be a fine thing
a fine thing indeed
the idea of what being a "loser" entailed has changed drastically within the past 20 years.
back in, say, 2003 and before, a loser was a man who had a middling paying job, had no long-term relationship, rented a spacious apartment instead of owned a house, and only had maybe 5 or so friends.
a "loser" today is a man who's a virgin into his mid 20s, has no friends, has no job, still lives with his parents, plays video games all day, and hasn't interacted with a woman in years.
what constitutes as a loser today, would be absolutely incomprehensible to people just 20 years ago.
I remember when we used to gaze at Japan and wonder why they were so repressed and isolated.
I think the modern standard wasn't uncommon back then, but it hadn't reached a critical mass where privileged tv writers were as aware of the archetype. Also the proliferation of the internet gave these people a place to talk and prove they exist whereas before their isolation masked them.
It's also to a degree a cultural thing. The change is more pronounced in America where moving out asap was standard and comparatively expected. But in other relatively rich countries like Italy living at home way past 18 has always been pretty common even for people doing alright.
Of course falling wages and quality of life after the West allowed the brutal destruction of organized labour to own the commies is behind the increase that has happened. Even for autists living at home there's more incentive to at least get any job if it makes more money.
>Of course falling wages and quality of life after the West allowed the brutal destruction of organized labour to own the commies is behind the increase that has happened.
Aren't all bigcorps in bed with biggov?
Yeah that's the idea with capitalism. Organized labour and labour militancy is the only force that can ever push against that and resist their agenda domestically.
this is true.
the thing is, as the cultural zeitgeist has shifted, what was once considered being a "loser" is now more-or-less considered being a normal functional person. mark wouldn't be considered a loser in today's world. being able to afford a spacious apartment with enough disposable income for literally anything else makes him somewhat prosperous in todays world. as a result, the spotlight of loserdom has shifter to those who truly are the irredeemable dregs of society.
people back in the day had no idea how good they had it,.
Having sex really isn't an achievement
The very first caveman troglodyte ever created most definitely had sex at least once
So really not having sex reflects a lot more poorly on you than you think
This. The last decade for me has been
>A girl flirts with me
>We date
>She cheats on me
>Go 2 to 3 years not even interacting with a woman
>Girl flirts with me
>We date
>She cheats on me
>Go 2 to 3 years not even interacting with women
I'm on year 3 currently. I live a very confusing life
>A girl flirts with me
>I'm cheesed to meet them
>has sex
>multiple girlfriends
>decent job
>nice flat with a bro
>had a social life
>goes on adventures
>goes to parties
>But! He's a bit socially awkward!
>LOL WHAT A LOSER, AM I RIGHT, AUDIENCE??
I remember watching this and seething so much back in the day because of this. The writers did not realise how far things had gone.
Was it ever stated he owned the flat?
I'm drawing a blank.
I always figured they split the rent.
If Mark owns the flat does Jez pay rent?
>Was it ever stated he owned the flat?
Yes, s06e04
I really want to punch David Mitchell.
He's tolerable compared to 80% of panel show rotisserie chickens but damn him and that wanker who was cucked by Mr. Bean need a punch.
I'd rather tiddy frick his wife
For me, it's April. The best girl from Peep Show
>filename
Uhhh, anon?
Reminder that not only Dobbie is a shit mary sue character, she is also one of the major reasons Mark fricked his life up (even more)
> I'm such a pathetic loser
> Has Dobby grind his wanger in the stationery closet
It's not fair.
it's fricking insane how erotic this scene is, I genuinely don't understand
I love and hate this scene. Fricking mark should have just whipped it out and stuck it in
Funny how Mark and Jezz’s actors are the complete opposites of their characters IRL
>David Mitchell has a successful writing and acting career, writes for several newspapers and is married to a successful world poker champion milf
>Robert Webb’s hairline has been annihilated, he can only get gigs on shitty light entertainment clip shows and writes books about toxic masculinity
I am sad that Webb didn't get more of a career after his partnership with Mitchell. David Mitchell is obviously the more talented of the two, but I quite like Webb. It's kind of unfair what happened to him.
Sex should be illegal.