Fearsome? Check.
Awesome hairstyles? Check.
Best looking ships? Check.
Everybody hates them? Check. And by design.
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I'm tired of pretending the Kazon aren't the best villains ever
I love when starfleet encounters a warrior culture and ends up with an orphan kid that they try to turn into a good goy. it ALWAYS backfires
federation pussies need to take a page out of the obrian playbook
It's too bad they were written out after season 3. They could have taken the alpha quadrant easily with all 18 sects.
the old "if they ever band together, we're done for" trope
goddamn space mongolians would be a nightmare
didn't picard find a human lad that'd been raised by cardassians? that kid was a badass
Voyager had a lot of trouble against like three Kazon warships. Even one of the smallest sects like the Kazon-Nistrim had more than three ships. The power level would seem quite comparable
The kid was raised by some one episode appearance aliens, not cardassians.
They only had lasers and nukes but still dabbed on Shitfleet with ambushes and boobytraps.
Klingons beat these fools in every category. Especially in ship design, Kazon turd looking junk cannot compete
Klingons are a proud warrior tribe. Kazon are a nomadic race born from slavery. Not sure why people thought they are similar. Only similarity is probably TOS Klingons before they joined the Federation
Weren't they all repurposed Trabe ships? The Kazon would struggle to invent the wheel (but then that's true of the Klingons too).
Yep, that's true. They are Trabe. They couldn't build their own ships, which is why they have trouble with certain things like finding water and seeing some things as magic (transporter)
The Klingons could keep up militarily with the Federation and the Romulans. The Kazon would get spanked by any one of them. The Dominion too.
What about the Kazon vs Pakleds?
I don't thin the Pakleds were fleshed out enough to compare. Kazon vs Cardassians would be close
>Kazon vs Cardassians would be close
Lol. The Kazon would decimate both the cardassians and Jem hadar
You're dehydrated anon. The Breen by themselves could skull frick the Kazon, the Dominion would stomp them without breaking a sweat
The Kazon are like 18 empires spanning over two years of space by voyager's high speed standard. Wouldn't count them out
Nah, they lack cohesion, and the advanced level of technology needed to defeat an alpha quadrant power. Do they even know of the existence of cloaking tech, including the personal cloaks of the Jem Hadar?
Maybe if they allied with the Trabe, and put aside their differences, they could stomp out the borg
If the Borg themselves deem the Kazon as unworthy of assimilation, then they are not a major threat to anyone
Or their dominance was so powerful the Borg just left them alone to rule their half of the Delta Quadrant.
That is some powerful cope dude
Well it explains why no real powers rise in the delta quadrant. They got kazoned.
And so that concludes it for me.. the Kazon Order are the strongest villains in Trek
If all the rats on Earth suddenly started cooperating, they could probably take over a middle-sized European country, but nobody considers them capable of such, so everyone regards them as vermin.
I can see the Borg viewing the Kazon in the same light.
The Borg were constrained by other Delta factions which were incredibly powerful - the spying aliens, dinosaurs, time travelling dudes, anti-psychic janeway frickers, there were way beyond any Alphashitters in tech level.
The Voth were pretty cool
That was silly, every humanoid is a new drone with extra processing power
But it is canon, so it does speak to how useless the Kazon are that the Borg wouldn't waste resources assimilating them
They had to constrain the Borg somehow, if it weren't for those restrictions, logic dictates that the Borg would have already conquered the entire galaxy.
United Kazon clans could wipe out any one non-Federation power, but that requires unification.
That line from the Kazon kid about how Voyager is blatantly cruising through space displaying their heraldry (forgot the exact term he used) always stuck with me.
Yep and that kid became Nog
I thought his voice sounded familiar.
>Became Nog
He was Nog for years before that point.
kazon were ok villains
their main mistake was making them look like oompa loompas
couldn't take them serious
Why are you pretending? Are you so shallow, so empty of any moral compass whatsoever, or solid heartfelt opinion, that you feel the overwhelming need to *pretend* about something you don’t believe so others won’t say something snide about you? Is your very existence, nay, your inborn molten core level of anxiety built upon such craven ideals that you have to PRETEND to go along with the unwashed masses so you can appear to fit in? Imagine being the spineless cowardly thing that is you. So afraid to be yourself, to be unique, you feel you must pretend to hold a belief you don’t agree with so you can remain hidden among marching morons on a daily basis. Truly, a more pathetic and emotionally crippled case of sorrow
cannot be unearthed throughout human history, aside from the pitiful, sociological milquetoast that is you. It goes without saying, your dejected mother weeps at her ultimate failure that is your solitary, useless, and ephemeral existence of nothingness upon the face of our planet. The gods weep
Let me guess, Dr Who fan?
>We need a backwards species of savages to be the dim-witted antagonists for our all-American crew
>Better give them dark skin and funky hair
Goddamn I miss the 90s.
Girl Dukat.
fricking kazon shits
>Janeway kept a barely contained psychopath around just to use him as a WMD against the Kazon
Truly the best captain.
The early seasons of Voyager are so fricking impenetrable in part due to these frickers and the bizarre "we wanted like space inner city gangs" behind the scenes motivation for them.
Sounds like someone's jealous
The only voy villains almost as bad as the kazon are the knockoff predators, and they still had the decent Nazi episodes. The only good thing to come from the kazon was grima going on a murder spree.
savages
>>Low tech
dreads
Frick them, voy should have fought Red Foreman for an entire season instead
Out of the 18 sects, only 8 were covered on screen. In order from biggest to smallest:
Kazon-Relora - They had the largest number of ships.
Kazon-Ogla - The second strongest, known for holding Occampan space.
Kazon-Pommar - Considered one of the "nicer" sects and approached by Neelix for the Alliance.
Kazon-Oglamar - Led by Jal Valek, judging by the name this sect was likely an offshoot of the Kazon-Ogla and the Kazon-Pommar.
Kazon-Mostral - Led by Jal Surat.
Kazon-Hobii - A weak sect but without negative reputation of the Nistrim. Led by Jal Loran.
Kazon-Nistrim - One of the strongest before but was significantly weakened by the time of Voyager events, however still ambitious and led by Jal Culluh.
Kazon-Halik - Only mentioned once but never seen on screen and not present at the alliance talks.
There is also the Kazon Order which is the all the sects unified. This was led by Jal Sankur around 40 years previous.