in 20 years the sequel trilogy will be reevaluated and loved in the same way the prequel trilogy has been.
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in 20 years the sequel trilogy will be reevaluated and loved in the same way the prequel trilogy has been.
It will be re-evaluated for sure but Idk about loved. Doesn't have as much soul as the other two.
in 20 years the only people watching movies will be the people with enough power to afford private armies. The rest of us will be cannibalizing each other and engaging in PUBG style combat
No. The PT was not "reevaluated" at any point. What happened was the kids and teens who grew up with them became adults and naturally shifted the tone of online discourse. The ST will not experience the same kind of natural shift because it did not appeal to children whatsoever.
>it did not appeal to children whatsoever
it didn't appeal to anyone, whatsoever
no one enthusiastically likes the sequel trilogy
it just exists; it's content to sell ads on cable
a guaranteed click on a streaming service when you want to babysit kids
The Last Jedi I don't think is even appropriate for kids under 12 to watch. Its overly violent and mean spirited in a way none of the other movies are, you have tons of good guy characters being killed on screen and the movie heavily dwells on that fact. Like the scene where this cute pilot girl just gets blown up in her wienerpit.
also people who hated the prequels started to appreciate them after seeing the sequels
so we have two groups
Its more that mainstream movies in general have become such unwatchable slop in the modern era, that it becomes hard to rag on movies like the Star Wars prequels. I'd even watch Crystal Skull over most of the junk being shoved down our throats these days.
Exactly. One of the most common complains about the prequel trilogy was that "Lucas is doing this to sell toys". Yes, he did that, and a lot of children became SW fans because of toys, or cartoons or videogames.
This never happened with the sequel trilogy. Toys didn't sale at all, there were no cartoons and there were zero videogames about the sequel trilogy. Nobody will have fond memories of the ST in 20 years.
Unlike you I actually hung around with prequel apologists back in the 00's. Everything they said then has turned out to be completely correct.
Idiot whingers who thought that Darth Vader was like the Empire's Secretary of State or some bullshit like that have died of heart failure and cope.
I've seen old forum posts of people analysing the Prequels at the time and correctly predicting certain events based solely on historical/mythical themes present in the other movies. This narrative that everyone hated the movies at release is pure cope.
In reality it's just journalists and critics with a personal vendetta against Lucas, and their bugmen audience who parrot everything they see in the news.
I think most ppl hated phantom menace at first due to the shock of how bad and boring child anakin was. Other than that phantom menace was and is decent. Attack of the clones is absolute garbage outside of a few decent scenes, and the end(though it fricking sucked not to actually see the clone war). I remember living revenge of the Sith and thinking it was almost as good as the original trilogy. To this day I think revenge of the sith is actually worthy of being in talks about favorite Star Wars movies.
They will evaluated and studies as one of the biggest frick ups in Hollywood history, it'll be remembered next to the likes of heaven's gate, difference being heaven's gate is actually good
No it won't - not as much. The Prequels expanded on Star Wars even if people didn't like them. The sequels are hollow and sterile. There isn't much to their universe beyond the films.
SW homosexuals ate up the prequels, so they will eat up the sequels as well, especially if you count that TLJ is actually the best SW movie since empire (which shits on all the prequel movies combined).
what did rian johnson mean by having a veiny black wiener pointing at her face?
Apparently Rey+Finn was the only romance pairing that was 100% off the table for Disney.
I think we treated JJ too harshly.
Iger would be the guy you need to thank, if JJ had his way Rey would have given Finn a BJ before leaving in TFA instead of hardcore friendzoning him.
JJ wanted Finn + Rey to happen. Iger and Rian stopped it.
>JJ wanted Finn + Rey to happen
lol fricking israelite. How the hell would that have worked in China?
do chinks care about black+white? I figured it would just be black+chink they'd be mad at
>do chinks care about black+white?
Anon, they don't like black people to begin with. They don't like seeing race mixing with the exception of white + chink, with the latter being in control of the pairing. This is why Disney bends the knee to the CCP & PROC when it comes to minimizing POC roles among other things that wouldn't fly under the Chinese government. Hollywood has done this for decades to please them as much as possible, because Chinese box office revenue is potentially enormous and no israeli mogul wants to risk compromising that estimated gain.
The prequels are at best tolerated by most, enjoyed only by fans who care about the universe rather than the movie itself. They still suck.
Keep telling yourself that. By this point in the PT there were countless games, books, comics, card games all propping up the PT to keep it alive and push it. The ST has fricking nothing but a cancelled TV show and some books with fart weddings and a hotel riddled with a virus from 2020. The ST will always be hated and the only people involved who deserve forgiveness are the Rose actress, Gleeson and Max Von Sydow but he's dead
I give it 10 years tops. The seethe from prequelgays will be hilarious.
And yet the prequels merchandise made billions! Disney nu wars merchandise made Goose Egg!
Lol no! Merchandise for the prequels sold in the billions! Disney nu wars is dead!
when the prequels came out the was a real tsunami of merchandise, video games etc
when sequels came out barely anything came out, there wasn't even a single video game
The sequels had a tsunami of merchandise too, just ask toys r us! Lol! They went bank rupt and all their toys ended up in bargain bins for a quarter!
You know why?
Because the buyers of the merchandise were middle aged straight men who were George's original audience during the age of the OT!
Disney's nu wars hasn't made a penny since they bought the ip!
By the way, years after the prequels, sparce merchandise made billions until Disney took over! So your excuse is bullocks!
Blame Disney handing off the video game rights to EA, worst company in america twice in a row, rather than just supporting lucasarts.
Why didn't they just plan the trilogy in advance? If you spend a billion dollars on a franchise surely you ensure a basic narrative?
You keep making this thread but it doesn't mean it will be true. People will always see the NuLogy as a fumbled wasted opportunity where the shows had to recover the fandom.
You say that like it's completely arbitrary, when there's a clear divide between the Prequels being made by Lucas and the Sequels not
only contrarian zoomers pretend to like the prequels. they were, and continue to be, terrible movies.
And yet, they managed to sell toys. The ST couldn't even manage that, because no one wanted to be Finn or Rey.
i'll give the prequels credit for providing characters that were, at the very least, cool to look at, and did cool fighty moves. the prequels were actually quite good kids movies aside from the boring politics talk. i was born in the late 1990s and the prequels were actually my first foray into star wars and i actually found the fight scenes, lightsabers, force use and general aesthetics very cool as a child. the issue is they're just movies in every other aspect and don't hold up to scrutiny as an adult.
People go on about the "boring politics", but I was an actual kid when these things came out and I never noticed.
There's this strange revisionism going on here where adults decide that kids must think the politics scenes are boring, I guess because they do.
Trade embargos meant exactly as much to me as a kid as an empire and a rebellion. It's just grown up background stuff that you ignore because you're taken in by the cool aliens, and the action,
no, it will always be remembered as a cheap imitation of true Art Lucas has produced
This trilogy is a soulless corporate cash grab that are products of their time. Nobody is going to give a fricking shit about them. Maybe the Last Jedi will be admired by a vocal minority but that’s about it.
Yes
That would only be possible if average sequels enjoyer was kid... What sadly isn't true people which love it are childless weirdoos over +30 and their passion is purely political and not because the PRODUCT is good.......
The Force Awakens was loved by general audiences when it first came out though, if anything it's already been re-evaluated since then and has come out far worse than it started
>The Force Awakens was loved by general audiences when it first came out
Because of the initial hype and nothing else. It came out 10 years after Episode 3.
>U.S. space opera starring a bong chick and a bong Black
>legacy characters aren't reunited
>instantly kill Han Solo
>shit all over Luke Skywalker
>steal the plots from the previous films and do them worse
>villains portray all the cool and intimidation of a spastic 14 year old
The sequels will be known for being absolute garbage, as they are now.
>U.S. space opera filled with bongs.
The british actors have always been the highlight of most all the star wars films so i can understand the casting decision.
The juxtoposition in the casting was a pretty big part of Lucas' movies though
You always had a mix of some literal who for the protag who seems to never find work again after, the American action star (Harrison Ford/Samuel L Jackson), the classical British stage actors (Alec Guinness, Peter Cushing, Christopher Lee, etc) and the sex israeliteess (Fisher, Portman)
If you throw all that away you're left with something that feels nothing like a Star Wars movie.
Thats actually very true. i guess you could say Oscar Isaacs was the american action star and Adam Driver was the literal who but we didnt get a sexy israeliteess or really that many big british stage actors until the last movie with Ian Mcdiarmid and Richard E. Grant.
Max Von Sydow was in the movie for like 3 seconds at the start
Also Adam Driver has way more of a career than Hamill/Christenson both before and after his stint in Star Wars. Ridley as the literal who makes more sense
I don't think the Sequels had a single midriff scene either, like the other 2 trilogies did. Shows how inferior the Disney movies are.
Daisy Ridley actually has a nice tummy too, what the frick were they thinking?
>Daisy Ridley actually has a nice tummy too,
She has a weird-looking navel IRL & she would've objected to it if they did and likely would've cried "sexism" if given the chance.
eh I'd say her abs and her fat ass are probably her only redeeming factors tbqh
It's amazing to me that there are people on this planet who unironically think that the prequels are anything but pure sewage
the sequels being bad doesn't make prequels not-shit
It's just contrarians and idiots. 90% of SW fans stopped caring about the franchise so the tiny minority of PT autists now feels like most of the fanbase. The truth is SW fricking died.
amazing to me that there are still people on this board pretending the prequels are bad because the man on the news told them to
The prequel trilogy is dog shit though?
if you are willing to go on record as liking the phantom menace and classifying it as a good film you are what's wrong with the world and we'd all be better off if you died of aids.
Doubtful. Kids back then loved the prequels, and toy sales will back it up. The new movies aren't nearly as popular with kids. Kids like Marvel and Fortnite.
Plus the prequels are actually movies that are good, and respectable in a lot of ways. You can kick and scream about it, but it's true.
The new Star Wars movies are going to be regarded as something similar to Pirates of the Caribbean post-3, or The Karate Kid sequels, or the Hobbit movies. "Oh yeah. That happened".
Anon all those people telling you how much they love the prequels are just ironic shitposters. You've been had.
>people thinking they can tell George Lucas how you're supposed to make a movie appealing to kids, and how he supposedly failed to do this, while complaining that Jar Jar was a character aimed at kids, who shifted merchandise
The absolute joke of it.