>In 2005 it was considered a comedy
>In 2023 this is reality for 50% of young males
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Lol only 8 more years
Weirdest timeline i even had a gf
I turned into one on Sunday.
The wizard powers were a lie.
Just go get a sperg unvaxxed gf works for me
Happy birthday Anon, hope things get better.
you weren't faithful enough
You need to believe to get the powers
That means you're a gay virgin, and therefore, not special. Go get your bussy filled up with spunk and become a 2023 normie.
>a 2023 normie
cant think of anything worse than that
thats weird, i became a wizard 2 weeks ago.
did you check beneath your sink for your hat? mine appeared beneath the sink for some reason and i didnt get my powers until i put it on.
>i even had a gf
How the frick did that happen? I got my first gf at 25 and I awkwardly fricked her on the first date. Maybe you need the power to attract only the most severe BPD latinas like I do.
>Young males
>40
He means I'll be the fate of young males in their 40's
they were considered 22 in 2005
They're just kids.
Still technically not men because virgin
Phils younger brother was a kid when he died and he was 47.
It doesn't resemble the true experience of virginity. The guy had an aversion to masturbation and kept himself well groomed even after giving up.
>2023
>40 is young now
The median age in the United States is 38 and rising, for non-Hispanic whites it's 44.
Which would mean no American is older than 76. Median is not the same as average/mean, and can never be unless you have a replacement word for median.
>Which would mean no American is older than 76
The median isn't the highest value of a set divided in half. It is the value directly in the middle of the set.
i.e the median of [1, 1, 3, 5, 8] is 3
>Which would mean no American is older than 76.
No it wouldn't. What are you talking about? Do you not know how medians work?
Back then they were called baby boomers. Now they are just called boomers.
Not if i kill myself before 40 b***h
Why don’t you people just hire an escort.
I don't want just benis -> bagina
I want to frick someone who genuinely wants to frick me back.
She'd genuinely want to frick you back in order to get your money, so it would still count.
Then you should start by working on having a girl want to be around you in general.
I'm 25 and have never had a girlfriend, have never had a girl who was a friend, have never had a actual friend period, I'm obese as shit and have no job and am not homeless only because of stupid luck...yep this is the world today
https://lowerthought.wordpress.com/complete-notes-to-good-calories-bad-calories/
Lost the weight at 30 gl bro i had a shit time in my teens and 20s
how pathetic do you have to be to be a virgin past the age of 21 or so. even past the age of 17 is pretty bad but acceptable
I can tell by the way you speak and think that you're subhuman, which is the main qualification for getting laid these days (I'm not a virgin btw)
In reference to my post , this
is a prime example of a modern sex haver
>50%
>34
>conventionally attractive
>have had sex with 3 women
>whenever I tell anyone this they think I'm joking and the number should be much higher
At this point my plan is save up some money then go be a sexpat in the philipines
>tfw 29 yo virgin
How? What makes someone become this way? Did your dad leave you at the age of 3 or something?
I've always been shy and socially awkward, being ugly doesn't help either
how do you even frick someone as a virgin past the age of like 21 max?
I don't know, i guess if you have too much money, girls will throw themselves at you?
even then how would you meet those women? you'd need the social skills to be able to talk to them
Well then. i guess i just give up
Yes, have a nice day
Nah, there's more into life than fricking women
No man. Life is worth living. Your life has value man.
Eh, not every life has value haha
ahh the cope
People who use words like cope are usually the ones coping
we all are you trog
No shit you are
heres you u moron
name ONE thing worth living for
fame
New experiences I suppose. Why end it all when there’s so much else to experience? Let’s pretend for a moment you are castrated and literally can’t have sex. There’s more to life than having sex. You could always do some traveling, skydiving, help the community out, try acting, singing, give a go at trying to achieve the other dreams you have, be the best son/uncle/friend/whatever you can be, do whatever man. Don’t let your virginity, body count, or whatever define you or your worth as a person. Contrary to popular belief, but there’s more to a person than their body count. This post will probably be lost in a barrage of religion and redpill debates, but oh well. That isn’t gonna stop me from posting this.
>Let’s pretend for a moment you are castrated and literally can’t have sex
that'd unironically be better, since i wouldn't feel the need to fap or think about women. I get your point, but still you can't get around the bad taste of seeing couples everywhere while you are there as a simple eunuch
I have a lot of money and haven’t had sex in 10 years. Money doesn’t matter at all if you’re ugly or don’t have friends / social proof. And if you’re good looking and social you don’t need money to have sex. So money is absolutely meaningless to the equation.
You're wrong, money does matter, but it's one of multiple factors. For men it's like a certain average, or multiplication. In the case of a man with no friends (and who is unwilling to even try), one could imagine that one of the terms is equal to zero, and since everything else has to be multiplied by that one term, the chances remain zero in that case.
Basically you have tunnel vision because you're only thinking of your own case and not considering the problem in general terms. /LULZ/ insists on a similar fallacy (only facial attractiveness matters) because they're terminally online and refuse to acknowledge the examples of ugly men who have partners (even if those partners aren't fetching). Women do want a man to be decently attractive/not hideous, yes, but they also don't want the man to be too pretty. Women want to be the pretty one in the relationship.
I have no idea lol. As a woman i wouldn't even touch one of them
Based. I wouldn't piss on you if you were being burned alive.
21 isn't hopeless but it will get harder as time goes on. Try not to resign yourself to being an incel because that'll be a the absolute killer. I lost mine at 21 (I'm 26 now) and its apparent to me being a bit more mature that the incel/chud vibes I gave off and they way I acted because of the views I held were the main thing holding me back.
Not an incel/chud but i still give people the ick because my social skills are garbage
Keep an eye out for girls who are kind of introverted and more similar to you in their own right. Not saying that because they're easier or something, just because honestly you'll probably just click with people who have a more similar personality type. And yeah, I know its harder on two fronts because that personality type inherently lends itself less to engaging with people and the fact its less common. But that's what you gotta do. You're not going to get with a stacy and frankly you probably wouldn't even want to beyond a superficial level.
Also, you'll have a much easier time of this if you're still in college. A lot of guys who end up turning into proper incels are past that and live kind of isolated lives. They either do nothing outside of work or are unemployed and have basically nothing going on in their lives at all. They have no outlet to even meet women in the first place. If you're in college, don't waste the opportunity.
Yea, I've been around girls like that but only as friends. They probably thought i was gay honestly
You just gotta get over the hurdle of asking them out. I know its what I used to struggle with. The fear of just not knowing what to say or how to segue a conversation in that direction, or of coming across as awkward. But at the end of the day you just have to do it. Worst that can happen is they say they're not interested. If they say that, don't get pissy about it, even if you feel like shit, brush it off and move on.
i'm this but 28
This but 27
frick you for being younger than me
You wanna kiss about it?
Same but it's okay because I hate women
>The American Empire will fall within your lifetime
>tfw lost virginity at 25
I like sex now its nice
Doesn't matter. You wasted your life away until you were 25. You'll always be a pathetic loser no matter how many times you have sex afterwards
>nothing matters except secks
why
The guy is obviously trolling
Because its nature of a man to be social and sexual. If you aren't you have failed as a man and as a human.
Humanity sucks anyway. I'd rather be a mutant.
On what grounds do you make that claim
>haha i am the based chad because i get zero pussy
this is your brain on /misc/
Can you quote me where I said that
Can you answer my question
are you moronic
It’s not about being a chad or pol imbecile. It’s about valuing the sanctity of marriage and not being a degenerate hedonist fornicator. If you can’t value what God has given you and can throw it away with such ease out of a hedonistic whim, you’re no different from the loose promiscuous nymphomaniac women who NOW wanna settle down after whoring around. It pains me that so many in this thread can’t value what God has given them and seek to live a life of hedonism and degeneracy.
what zero pussy does to a mf
Wow all this cope from a religious moron. God isn’t real homosexual. If you believe in him, you’re no different than a child who believes in the tooth fairy or Santa Claus.
Well God doesn't believe in you either, Lord Nutsackula
>god and the sancty of marriage
>unironical posting that on Cinemaphile
My homie i dont know how the likes of you even endup here, is it /misc/homosexualry attracting subhumans like you?
/misc/ is the only place these fricking autists fit in because anywhere else, even social media, 99% of people will avoid them. Then once on /misc/ they take their only source of human interaction as fact and can blame the israelites/trannies/shills/glowies as the source of their problems
Damn this guy is MAD.
>god, god, god
Lmao shut the frick up man
Btch thinks he's a preacher or something
This Christcuck never read his own book. Read The Song of Songs.
That is about a wedding. What is the relevance to his post?
It is definitely not about a wedding. You haven't read it. Thank you for confirming.
GRRR....YOU ARE NOT PROMISCIOUS ENOUGH!!!
GRRR.......
Thats not true I love my wife very much
i dont look or feel any different at 27 than i did at 21 besides having more money, ill wait until actually look and feel worse to feel old
Cope permavirg
>Projection
Do I count as a temp-cel?
>had sex once at 15
>did not have sex again until 21
>did not have sex again until 24
I just cannot maintain a steady state of ascension.
>at 15
you're a failed normalgay.
next.
>tfw got 88s twice
Youre fighting against a literal god tread lightly
Explain how. I’m 25 and feel like I’ll be sexless for life.
Just be yourself
Also go to church
Did you actually find the girl at church?
>had sex at 16
>never had sex again for 15 more years
Am I a virgin again?
yes
you can have sex regularly and still be a incel
if you don't have sex for a year, the virginity comes back. so yes.
kek it feels like it. I've had sex within a year before now, and it still feels like ages. Maybe it's because all I've ever wanted is to be loved. I don't care THAT much about sex but I know that women care very much about it. Then again the longer I live and the more experiences I have, the less I believe women are even capable of that emotion. Seems like they all simply view men as a means to either syphon money or boost their own social status.
The 40-Year-Old Virgin is a movie about a guy who has his life together outside of getting laid, 50% of young males aren't getting laid because they don't have their lives together
There's those of us autists who have gainful employment and even have hobbies and a friend or two. Once in a while in these threads you'll hear from a guy (one of several such people) who has his own house and a decent job/savings (100K plus or something) and even if he's not a virgin, he just got laid a few times in life (like Houellebecq's extreme outlier example) and now the guy just sort of does his job and keeps to himself in his house.
What I've never understood is how the frick someone is supposed to have sex as a teenager. Short of a quick fumbling session in a car, you can't very well get a room to yourself. I guess if you know one person's parents are out of the house at a specific time or something, but still. In college it makes sense to be able to get some sex if you're not physically/socially awful, but still.
My homie, just go to parties with friends and hit on girls, eventually a girl shares her pussy, unless you are as ugly as an abyss walk3r.
Also 99wt% are not virgins, who believes moronic shit posted on the internet?
The types of people I'm referring to are concentrated on this website. I don't know what "wt%" means but it is still true that the overwhelmingly large majority of men are not virgins, which is basically what you're saying. What's ballooning these days are the men who get sex a few times in their lives and then get shut out by bawd apps, socioeconomic status/women willing to share chad and unwilling to settle until age forces them to. Or men who have dry spells of several years.
I haven't had sex since before covid lockdowns
Oh NO, poor poow BAYBEH hasn't had SECKS in FWEE. WHOW. YEAWS! Poow, POOW BABEEH! The Ickle Bickle Baybe is SAD!
If you have ever had any sexual contact of any kind with any other human being within the last twenty years lower your gaze when talking to me
I used to sneak my gf in my room when I was 15. Shit was cash
No, they don't have their lives together because they're not getting laid. Because what's the point.
I am literally him minus 8 years. And instead of collecting comics and plastic it's guns and exotic fish.
Except Steve Carrell was fine being alone in the movie. He only went out to meet women because his coworkers made fun of him. Young men today do want women but can't get them. And all of those geek hobbies are run by people who hate the 40 year old virgin consooming their product
Man why can’t more people be like Steve Carrel’s character? The dude was content being a virgin and having his hobbies. But noooo we gotta have a bunch of innocents murdered just because “I CANT BREEED”
>But noooo we gotta have a bunch of innocents murdered just because “I CANT BREEED
I would never do harm to people because of that, but i've never been and i will never be sorry for them when someone else snaps, nothing personnel tbqdesu.
Like I said, all of his hobbies have been ruined by people who hate him.
Well the world isn't supposed to cater to people who are completely worthless
Then why wouldn't a person in that situation not hate the world and want to shoot it up? You said he was content being a virgin and having his hobbies, but without his hobbies why would he remain content?
Get other hobbies or something then. Just because life sucks doesnt mean you should shoot other people, just deal with it lol
>he should be happy with his hobbies
>his hobbies were taken away
>THE WORLD DOESN'T OWE HIM ANYTHING
Enjoy your shootings, then
Just fricking work out or something. Put that energy into yourself. You'll get laid after that unless you're hopelessly ugly or plain socially moronic
Now you're just making assumptions about me and insulting me. You're not very good at this
Just fricking get shot and die.
Ah I see, thats why get i for giving advice i guess
>Just fricking work out or something. Put that energy into yourself.
Normies, for your own good, keep your mouths shut.
he's right though.
No, he's not. You people are fricking morons. Ugly people frick and breed and be happy. It's everywhere and the majority of people are like that.
so what's holding you back?
I've done the first two, the be happy part is the hard part. You are an idiot, people who spout "Advice" from pick up artists are likely virgins themselves.
You're right, it does sound like being happy is hard for you.
He's a moron
I graduated from an elite university, I'm fit, have several thousands saved.
There are life circumstances far beyond a normies understanding that affect people's lives. They seriously need to just shut up because like a fish in water, they can't understand why a lizard flounders in it.
>waaaaaah they put Black folk in my stupid fricking nerd shit MY LIFE IS OVER!!
>just deal with it lol
You deserve to get killed kek
That guy isn’t me but upon further realization it does make me wonder why they won’t just leave people like him alone. The dude’s just enjoying his hobbies and minding his own business, how is that hurting anyone?
He wasn’t ok with being alone at all. I don’t know why people always say this. It’s extremely obvious in the scene where he is talking to Paul Rudds (whatever the frick spelling) character and he is explaining how he tried when younger but became too frustrated and gave up. It’s the classic story of a man who doesn’t understand women. His friends push him through the fear and support him in dating just as she pushes him through the fear and supports him to follow his dream.
Only an incel would see a movie where a woman is running her own business, meets a guy who has never fricked a woman and comes off creepy at first, falls for him and uses said business to net the guy $100,000 without taking commission as “used mediocre pussy”. Jesus fricking Christ, no wonder you hate women and women hate you. She literally made Andy $100,000 in sakes and didn’t take a cut.
All he had to do what box them up.
Threads about this movie always being em out too kek.
Movie about a delusional fantasy featuring a good looking man, with good hair, with a regular american upper middle class life.
does having phone sex count as real sex?
Demolition Man got there first
>I've *seen* the future. Know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his Bass pajamas, drinkin' a banana broccoli shake, singing 'I'm an Oscar Mayer wiener.'
—Demolition Man (1993)
i walked away from society.
I am still a virgin despite almost having sex twice. This is because of the size of my dick. Both girls who saw it declined sex due to its size and all I got was a handy and a blowie.
Feels bad man.
Mine said it was fine but didnt get a handy or blowie
Got titfrick didnt cum grinded on her a bunch im not fricking prostitutes or semi vaxxies
im schizoid pessimist neet shut in i accept my fate of virgindom
I don't get the normalgroids that get their kicks out of antagonizing incels.
If all someone who is obviously in emotional pain hears is that he's a worthless subhuman and deserves it, then no wonder he might have a violent reaction.
What's even more bizarre is it seems to be the default stance shared by society at large.
Has any other group ever been treated so heartlessly in history?
What is the endgame
We throw shit at them because thats the only way these subhumans can ever grow as people. They NEED to be manned up. Its all just tough love bud
yea that's working splendidly
>I have the right to tell them to have sex but they don't have the right to tell me to stop being a troony
kinda hypocritical
What a great guy you are. Really caring. Typical bully mentality.
>We throw shit at them because thats the only way these subhumans can ever grow as people.
Lynchings and pogroms are the solution to racism!
it's by and large femcels dunking on incels
no, I'm not being ironic
misery loves company
I wouldn't be too worried. Modern day's sexual culture is unsustainable and the non sex havers will win out in the end.
Only if you actually leverage that into some sort of serious relationship.
we're trying to save you
not him but ''saved'' from what exactly?
>replying to bait
From being an incel? It's literally the bottom of the barrel. Being a serial killer is more appealing to people
You're suggesting people become serial killers instead?
Nah, im just saying homies like Ted Bundy has seen way more women throw themselves at him despite being a serial killer rapist
And? It still doesn't make him someone to look up to. Especially considering there's poverty ridden ghettos that shit out 10 kids a day.
It doesn't really do much to change your overall perception of people.
For "despite" you should have put BECAUSE. It's called Hybristophilia.
Where sexual attraction (of women directed towards men) is concerned, this is literally true. Ironically, an incel may become a mass shooter (if not a serial killer, those are two different things), and it is only at that instant that he may achieve some theoretical sexual value in the eyes of (crazy) women, or women in general. Because for once in his life, the mass shooter actually nutted up and took a chance on something, even if it was something stupid and awful.
yourself. I want to save you from yourself.
elaborate
Being an incel sucks and you probably deserve better.
but how are you helping him exactly, I don't get it
Tough love worked for me.
That's why they deserve the violence. The current society won't last. It's not sustainable.
I'm not talking in terms of deserving anything or who is right or wrong, I'm just baffled about the schizophrenically sadistic position society and some individuals especially have towards them.
At the height of islamic panic the media and concerned citizens didn't go around taunting muslims and demonizing them, they did the opposite, to an obscenely hypocritical degree.
I can't think of any example where the collective response to a threat was antagonizing it.
Maybe it's considered socially acceptable because it's one of the few avenues of acceptable state sanctioned hate in the modern liberal west, hate against the "dominant group" with incels being metonymy for Men in general.
With many men unwittingly siding with their own oppressors.
Kek i basically bullied myself onto a nutter and im gonna do it again. Being lonely sucks just gotta find someone as weird as you are
dehumanizing men so they're willing to die en masse in WW3
literally the same shit was happening in the run up to WW1
it's just a natural consequence of there being too many men for the total amount of frickable breeding aged women (which is being artificially lowered by extremely high obesity rates)
Let's hope the dividends are worth it.
They're like chickens trying to peck the odd ones to death. They freak out about incels despite the fact that incels are like .000001% of murderers and you're more likely to be murdered by "normal" guys who get laid.
They hate incels so much because they can think of a million times they've fricked over an ugly male and they know if they get gunned down in a mass shooting, they 100% deserve it. They're afraid.
Actual summary.
>In 2005 it was a movie with a clickbait title
>In 2023 it had long been forgotten
>American hours
>all threads turn to shit
Love to see it
its usa world baby
ew, no
yes we run the earth
you're favela monkey tier at this point
Is this how you treat women in America?
Yes, if you notice he only hit them with his foot and an open hand.
you can always go back to your local irrelevantchan
>tfw unironically a 30 year old khv
10 years left
You know what y'all's problem is? You're putting the pussy up on a pedestal
The thing that sucks and that no one tells you is that even if you do have sex it only takes a year or two dryspell for your virgin aura to come back and women can tell
Unironically just pay to have your virginity taken and you'll be free of the burden of feeling like you're missing out.
Not my problem
>lol just change everything about yourself and you'll get mediocre used pussy
I don't understand the point of this film.
Being 40 years old is the reality of 50% of young males?
Damn, was /x/ right? Are the boomers bodysnatching the young studs? Is that why Zoomers are at age 14 already acting as stupid as if they were making up for a wasted youth?
men literally can't be virgins so I don't understand the title.
ok but literally why am I supposed to want a girlfriend?
like I don't see the point in giving up time for myself and my hobbies in exchange for having to deal with someone else's petty emotional bullshit and the chance for a mediocre orgasm every so often.
>inb4 hurr love
not an answer.
you incels are such losers im glad your genes will go into the ground with you one day. get outta my face and close the door on your way out.
I mean yea, the last thing I'd want to do is to spread my shitty mentally ill fricking genes out on to this world
Don't care, not Cinemaphile related.
suck my wiener dude
Seriously. Do you guys notice how subhuman sex havers are? We live in an environment that sexually selects for subhuman morons. That's not an exaggeration.
True, we should all be incels like you and just watch as we all die out.
>We live in an environment that sexually selects for subhuman morons. That's not an exaggeration.
Only natural. Technology evolves at an absurd rate compared to nature. Compare society in 1823 to 1923 and 2023. Then look at how much evolution has taken place in the span of one or two hundred years.
We can keep building more complicated shit off of the recorded knowledge of the previous generation, but our bodies and instincts can't evolve that quickly. Our sexual desires are still probably suited for caveman life, not modern society.
But it's not the best cavemen that are having sex. It's the absolute scum of the earth. If it was actually just le chads or whatever I'd be ok with that. But it's not. It's just the worst of the worst. The more of a stupid butthole a guy is the more pussy he gets.
It's likely because the stupid butthole puts himself out there while you sit inside and only go out once a month to shake things up a bit.
>The more of a stupid butthole a guy is the more pussy he gets.
It's not that black and white. Being a stupid butthole has certainly never stopped anyone from getting laid. It's depressing, sure. But there are still intelligent, kind, and good people fricking and reproducing too.
It's just that being intelligent, kind, and good is not going to attract any women. There needs to be something else on top of that. Generally money or being tall.
GIWTWM
>all these virgins wanting a gf
lmao i hate my gf so much but she loves me, it sucks
Literally save some money and get a prostitute. It will change your life for the better and maybe I won't have to hears anons b***hing all the time
>It will change your life for the better
delusional
Nta, but it really would. You satisfy your curiosity for sex and no longer require it to be the end goal for every social interaction you have.
If I have sex with a prostitute, that ruins it for me for good because the female gender, as much as I despise them, never approved of me as a male sufficiently enough to have a proper romantic interaction as my ancestors did for the past hundreds of years.
I'd seriously just go monk mode.
>never approved of me as a male sufficiently enough to have a proper romantic interaction as my ancestors
This. No point in prostitution, no real thing there.
Bullshit. It's the exact same thing as being with a woman without any of the baggage.
>but muh connection
The perfect woman only exists in your dreams. When someone wants to start a family or produce a child, they settle, and it's about compromise.
>When someone wants to start a family or produce a child, they settle, and it's about compromise.
Dead bedrooms
Open relationships
Cheating
Divorce
Obesity
Prostitution is like buying your degree or cheating in a competition
It's just fulfilling the physical need. The emotional need of wanting a girlfriend who gives a frick about you still requires work.
Glad i got that to fall back at home with my mommy gf
Not gonna bother trusting other girls until they earn it
moronic take. Prostitution sucks because it enforces the most utterly bleak outlook. People always say it's about sex, but men are lonely because they lack love. The prostitute doesn't love you. You know that non-prostitutes only partner with men who make more money than themselves. You know that women leave their husbands if they lose their jobs or go through a rough patch. You know that they're no different from the prostitute. Deep down you know that women simply don't love men. You know that the only difference between a prostitute and an upperclass mother of 3 is that the latter has more money.
Men want to be loved. Women want a paycheck.
>Bullshit. It's the exact same thing as being with a woman without any of the baggage.
That's the thing. Men want the baggage. The whole idea of incels just being obsessed with sex and putting it on a pedestal is a complete meme made up by people who want an excuse to discriminate and dehumanize ugly men.
>inb4 trust me bro having a gf/wife totally sucks bro i hate it so much bro but i still sought out this life and choose to stick with it
Relationships are a thing in every single culture in every corner of the earth that just about everyone who has ever lived has sought out. There is no way to sell this bullshit point of "Naw, you totally don't know what you want" so don't try.
Only men have an appreciation for the sort of love you romanticize in your head, that's the thing. Women aren't on that level.
And? Same end result. You'll either get laid because you are handsome, or because you have success, or because you have money. And in the end it doesn't matter how it happened.
It seldom happens because of who you really are as a person, which is to say, it rarely happens because of the real you.
Do you have any female friends? No joke, ask them how they see you. Get yourself a reality check. Work on the areas they criticise.
There's nothing I really have to work on as far as women are concerned. I've understood what I needed to.
I have neither malice nor love for them, they are simply a part of nature like me, and I am wired to be attracted to them, it's that simple.
>nor love for them
>wired to be attracted to them
I don't see how fricking a sex worker doesn't meet this criteria. You capitalise on the attraction without any of the emotional baggage.
It does meet the criteria.
>And?
it's not fulfilling
Also all the things you listed are accomplishments and things that women like
Prostitution paradoxically works if you're NOT an incel, as it is just, as you say, reaching the same end result via cutting corners, fully aware that you could still get women normally.
>it's not fulfilling
That's up to you basically. Not everything I listed was an accomplishment (for many it simply depended on genetics) but on the other hand, having the money to pay a prostitute is also an "accomplishment" of some sort.
The way I see it, you are still at a stage that could simply be described as hopelessly romantic.
I view attraction as a stat based video game with no such thing as a "soul" attached to it.
Consider that the end result isn't sex, but developing a close personal relationship. You incels have it all wrong.
>but developing a close personal relationship
That's based on sex and other such stats my dude.
It's all lovey dovey IF you have the right stars, if not, then you're a creep and if you have feelings you're gay. Simple as that. And mind you, this isn't something that upsets me per se. There's just a science behind everything people do.
That's my point. The end goal is not sex, it's the relationship. All these incels saying they want the emotional connection - you need to focus on building that for it's own sake rather than you get to have sex at the end. If you can create that relationship, the sex will take care of itself. Most importantly, you're going to fail more times than not. You can't connect with everyone.
Semi incel here its true took me ages to find people i click with ironically easier after normies all got vax
>Bullshit. It's the exact same thing as being with a woman without any of the baggage.
Yes, but the problem is that first time, I've romanticized it too much. I don't care about being with escorts afterwards I've also wondered how people who lose it to escorts feel about that first time.
>I've romanticized it too much
As have I, which is why I found it rather easy to stop caring over time. What you have in your head is as good as it will get.
I hate to say it but viewing women more as objects is what helped me in a way.
It's very much a min maxing thing. Utterly soulless and based on stats, at least with most women.
I guess there's some "unicorns" but who knows where they are or how many there are.
>I've also wondered how people who lose it to escorts feel about that first time.
From what I've read and heard, it's quite a positive experience. The girl finds she may even be into it more because it is more of a teaching experience than just a frick for cash.
The escort I lost my virginity to was very nice. It was an overall great experience and gave me a lot more confidence with women.
I gotta agree here
T. Wizard
Yeah well yo this the times we live in women have always been fricking morons like this til recently i wasnt much better either brainwashed by my ex and psychotic friends
Well, he's right that you won't obsess over it once it's ticked off your list. But also, your ancestors generally had it easier. Nowadays men are required to adapt a bit of a feminine mindset if they want to succeed with women, wherein they have to be more vain while also being "in touch with the times"
It's not that they don't approve of you as a male or your level of masculinity, it's that you sound like a c**t
c**ts gets laid all the time
Our ancestors tended to be rapists and prostitutemongers, which is incredibly based
Don't do it bro let it happen. Nothing like the love of a women
I finally got my shit together at 26 looks and personality wise, I'm able to get girl's numbers at the bar every weekend without effort even though I'm still a weirdo and khhv. Last girl I thought I had something going with i denied sex second date because I wanted a serious relationship/emotional connection with someone before banging. It didn't end well with her lol. Is it better to just get it over with and frick these bawds even though I don't really want to? I'm kind of an emotional gay but starting to care less and less
>girl's numbers at the bar every weekend
why is it always "the bar" in these stupid larps
are 50yo guys behind these posts
I miss the good old days when larps had quality
Kek yeah 32yo here had a similar experience finally came out of my shell a year ago zero connection with any of these bawds
>Is it better to just get it over with and frick these bawds even though I don't really want to? I'm kind of an emotional gay but starting to care less and less
Confronting the idea that as a man, I'm the type that shouldn't entertain romantic fantasies, and just frick whoever, is very difficult.
You obviously need a plan besides picking up bar bawds if this is how you are. Do you go to church?
>Do you go to church?
My plan is to get into a bunch of social activities to connect with others, but I need to move out of this podunk town I'm in first, this is a place where people settle down not meet up.
I wouldn't trust the sort of women who attend church here.
Tragedy = Comedy - Time
i'll be a double wizard in less than 3 years
Based go get some gmilfussy mate old chicks have huge booba lonely usual based gl elder wizards
Then i also have my mom whos a booba gf so i get booba at home and from gfs lul
My friend's wife now has an ex-gf of mine as a colleague. He's talking about how he wants to have a threesome. And my ex-gf is up for it. I don't like where this is going. We broke up for a reason.
I don't know how I feel about my mate fricking my ex-gf together with his wife.
I lost my virginity to an escort at 28. I have a gf now at 30 and she sucks on my pp.
thats awful tbh
Why? I'm happy.
>This whole thread
>empowered moms group
>dressed like a highschool girl despite being more than 55
People literally don't believe me when I tell them a virgin. I'm 28, 6'4 conventionally ok looking, with great hair and good sense of humor, but I was also sexually taken advantage of when I was 6 and has this has led to severe porn addiction, hypersexualization, alcoholism and lack of confidence in romantic situations. I am slowly getting out of this. I will not let that weird Chink who took naked pictures of me win. Frick you David
I'm sorry that happened to you anon. I'm glad you're doing better now. Weirdly enough I was also molested by a David.
Stay the frick away from any motherfricker named David.
Unbased took me until my 30s to fix that similar issues mainly rejection from normie girls gl bros we will backfrick normies up the ass frick em
>Meet 22 year old single mom on Bumble
>She is from four states away
>Came because the cost of living is cheaper and she had a baby on the way at the time
>Is very responsive, more responsive than any woman I have ever met on bumble
>Doesnt mention she has a kid until midway into the conversation
>As soon as she says that I tell her not interested
>She blocks me and unmatches
Why are women so fragile?
Kek i dated a single mom once she lost custody of her kids because shes psycho and denied me sex the entire time i was with her. Dodged a bullet
>young men want to get laid
>these same young men spend 99% of their free time at home, using video games
>when you tell them to get a more social hobby, they can't fathom giving up even a few hours of videogame time per week just for the purpose of meeting people
Why do you gays act like the world is to blame for your virginity when you put in literally 0 effort? You aren't going to get laid while staying at home all day. Do something social for once in your life.
This strawman is so moronic. Once again, normies need to shut up.
Cope and seethe
The real problem is suburbia. When I moved into the city (at great cost mind you) I lost my v card within six months after a decade of lonely inceldom.
Same i was a rural virgin almost lost it a dozen times incel still but yeah
Don't im 32 dont lose hope just get drunk and hit on everyone works for me
Frick vidya i quit years ago
It's not just "getting laid." you can do that from home.
What motivates men is getting a wife and starting a family. There is a shortage of worthy women and good jobs, and marriage itself has become sketchy.
That is why young men are not trying.
>What motivates men is getting a wife and starting a family.
You aren't a man though. You are 19 years old and just want to get your dick wet.
Not him but yes that's what I want. Women are the same btw, they are the reason I am the way I am. Men are sex objects for them, we're not people.
>it's all the women's fault!
Absolute pinnacle of cope. What traits do you have that you think women should be throwing themselves at you for?
What traits do women have that I should be throwing myself at them? The ability to have a child? It takes two to tango.
The rest, I already have.
t. autist who has never had a woman fall asleep on his chest
>tired people fall asleep
Wow, that changes everything. That's deep.
lmao are you actually and unironically autistic?
Not at all. Everything I've said thus far is not only correct, but rather simple.
>You aren't a man
Thank to the "empowered moms" generation
I dont if I should bother with women in general. I missed the most potential period due to fear and avoidance. I just need to find a good cope.
t. 30 lvl wizard
The cope costs a couple hundred or maybe less if you're not that picky but yeah.
I dont see how its helping.
It helps by getting it out of your system. You can experience an approximation of what humans call love, but not by being yourself. Yet, sex is the endgame of that. So you cut directly to the end.
For a lot of people, the journey is the enjoyable part. But again, you're not a Chad so you don't get to experience love.
This is oversimplified of course but that's basically what "love" is as a science.
>you're not a Chad so you don't get to experience love.
then why bother with loveless sex?
Because people have physiological needs. In fact, I'd argue those are more important than the emotional/psychological aspect that hopeless romantics center on.
>Yet, sex is the endgame of that.
Extremely confident most couples have sex before any genuine feelings of love are in the picture.
So it's both a precursor and an endgame. That's an even better argument in favor of what I said, nona.
Unironically dating apps. Yes, a lot of the traffic there is for hook-ups but it also seems to gravitate to the more well known ones like Tinder.
My 30 year old kissless virgin friend with major confidence issues got convinced to try it out and he's been on multiple dates and has currently been on multiple with one girl that is looking promising. And he has a Sri Lankan background which unfortunately narrows the pool considerably.
It really is just about getting yourself out there and accepting that it may take a few tries before you find someone who may seem a likely long term thing.
Imho tinder sucks quality of people on there are terrible both guys and girls try Facebook groups
what about bumble?
Tried that just Ghost after ghost i find fb and messenger to work better
Oath then again maybe I have more pull than i realised especially when drunk lol
Tinder is pretty notorious for just being a hook-up app now, it's why so many alternatives have popped up.
>Tinder is pretty notorious for just being a hook-up app now
It is not even that anymore. These days it's just an advertising platform for OF
Cheap pussy is everywhere, single mothers, ghetto trash, ugly women, a fancy dinner, a few drinks and most of the time sex is just like a digestion exercise for some of these prostitutes, idk what the frick is wrong with you guys
>idk what the frick is wrong with you guys
autism. unironically. normies can tolerate ugly people but not clueless ones.
>but muh emotional connection
I have not kissed a girl and I am 23. I am going to graduate school for a STEM degree. I have had less desirable women with high body counts approach me (just two times) but I am not willingly to compromise my sense of security just to get easy sex. I am not budging.
It's funny how many men are involuntarily celibate because they are insisting on voluntarily playing life on hard mode as if it means anything at the end of it.
You don't get it. I lived my life up until now without any female success so why should I lower my standards? If anything it is all the more reason to have high standards. I am fairly confident I can die virgin and still live a decent enough life. I guarantee the same cant be said for the average woman who doesnt get married.
If being a virgin genuinely doesn't affect you then sure.
Not 100% sure, but close to it yes.
You know Newton died a virgin?
The irony is that this simple act of complacency and accepting yourself for what you are, regardless of society's dogma is what drives women insane. As in, they literally see red that you are not affected by the lack of attention you get from them.
Every fiber of their being hates you, so much so that they do everything in their power to try and bring you down. But the truth is that headspace is power, as is having someone or something on your mind. They give you that power willingly by merely turning you into a boogeyman.
I guarantee there is no woman alive who gives a frick about whether you specifically have had sex or not.
>what is virgin shaming
>you specifically
It is a cultural war of attrition. Every incel who doesn't have early sexual success in life but becomes more marketable in the dating world later in life that refuses to lower their standards will inevitably reject the vast majority of women who won't live up to their standards. Thus those women will die alone or childless. Let's see which side cracks first.
>becomes more marketable in the dating world later in life
How so?
Namely, having a zero body count (given the right circumstances, a woman will want a man with a low body count as well), and like
said, a nice stable well-paying job.
They'll be of little help if in that time as a person you're still a c**t
Well I guess we will just have to see how the future plays out then. This will be the next big sexual culture war 20 years from now.
Women bawd around, get knocked up by chad who leaves, and then they prey on lonely older men to become stepdads so they don't have to get a real job and support their own children. It's pure exploitation. They don't love you, sociopathic women just see free money. But you're supposed to bend over just for the chance because you're a man and you just desperately need to have sex with a woman, don't you?
This is what people mean when they say
>Don't worry kid, the dating market totally changes when you get older! Men get way more in demand as they get older!
Women are fricking sociopaths.
Disregarding these incorrect and inane stereotype ramblings, wouldn't including that 'chad' knocks her up and leaves imply that men contribute to this problem too?
No, because women know exactly what they're getting into. They choose these men. They know. There's a reason only like .00001% of murders have anything at all to to do with inceldom yet incels are propped up like the biggest threat to women and society as a whole. Men who look and act like Chris Watts are ten million times more likely to beat, rape, and murder women yet you're never ever ever going to see these men be dehumanized and lumped into stereotypes. If you disagree you're simply lying or you've never actually spoken to women. They will tell you how they love a man who threw them through a car's windshield without even the slightest indication they find anything wrong with that.
These women know exactly what they're doing and they sociopathically exploit the needs of men. Then they enforce the stereotypes that the men not beating and raping and murdering women are the mysoginists.
Your main issue here is that while some women are like that you are generalising and convincing yourself it is all women when it really, really isn't just as all men aren't women beating buttholes.
Your mistake is thinking that just because it varies from man to man, it varies from woman to woman. It does not.
Some men like big boobs, some like small boobs. Some men like tall girls, some like short. Some like kind women and some like aggressive women.
Women like one single type of man. After you discard looks and money(which is already blackpilling enough), women still 100% only are interested in men they think will be violent. That's 100% of the reason that the only men being stereotyped as violent misogynists are ugly, short, small-jawed, narrow-shouldered men. Do the vast, vast majority of murderers (especially the ones slaughtering their wives/girlfriends) fit this description? No, and women know that damn well. But those are the men women hate looking at so they must be cast out of society. Women genuinely despise men they find unattractive to the point that they must make everyone hate them. Hence why women will 100% of the time instantly resort to calling people incels and virgins in an argument and claiming they could never satisfy a woman. They know that's the quickest way to destroy a reputation as other women will view him as lower status and men will fear the same happening to them.
Justin Roiland was cancelled after alleged sex crimes and his career is over. Mike Tyson is a proven rapist and wife beater who violently assaults ordinary civilians (also a racist and homophobe, but that's beside the point), and is still worshipped as a hero. Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that one of them is absurdly violent and the other is associated with ugly nerds, right? Guess Roiland should have bashed more women's heads in.
Tyson is a manlet who is like a 5/10 at best.
No women have a pre-selection bias, meaning they only want to be with someone who has had girlfriends before. A large part of who they are is merely groupthink.
The only difference between your average incel and a woman is that women, on average, are born with genetics that make them more attractive. It is the fair sex, and it's simply part of nature.
But there is no real difference in the way men and women view relationships, sex, etc.
Women are merely playing on an easier difficulty.
While I tend to agree, it isn't going to improve for you if you just insist on blaming women for your problems. They didn't choose their position just like you, and they can't help you.
And I also agree with that. It's simply the way men and women have been wired. Doesn't mean it's fair or unfair, it simply is.
Virgin shaming is sub-Stacy frumpy women who have had shitty relationships with men taking it out on low hanging fruit who they know they can go for. Because in truth, no woman could ever confidently do or say anything to a Chad. They're simply not built for it, mentally or physically.
So they focus on some "incels" who may have typed some mean comment from their mom's basement or whatever, and they think they make a difference. And then they marry someone who will give them a black eye and leave them and their kids but they'll still blame some neckbeard who had nothing to do with it.
Kek nah theres femcels and bawds who liked i was a virgin took me ages to realise they are either jealous they threw their virginity away for nothing and or got raped like my ex
Oh, but there is. That's the irony of it. Look at how obsessed culture is with men who refuse to comply or fit in.
Foids entire lives revolve around snooping around in men's sexual lives.
Ah yes, Rohita Kadambi (literally who?) - the spokeswoman for all women worldwide.
Women generally go for men that other women want too, it’s how their brains work.
Kek it's true now im single again it sucks. Nice not having the baggage now tho frick
Weird, I don't recall being surrounded by women wanting me when I got into any of my previous relationships.
I'm convinced women can smell when a guy is fricking another woman unconsciously. As soon as I lost my virginity in college (at 18), I started getting hit on aggressively. I would walk to class and walk back to my car with 2 new numbers every other day with zero effort. Women are just naturally loose, they instinctively desire men who are succeeding in any or many ways.
>my sense of security
wdym?
Body count shouldn't be a factor.
>young woman wants to explore her body
>Decides she's had enough adventure and wants to settle down.
Honestly, are you the same person you're in your thirties as you were in your twenties. Bodycount is not that important. Why is every part of human interaction being put in the bracket of an economical transaction?
If you like the girl, you like the girl. That should be the only thing that matters. Bunchbof fricking autists. But keep your bank accounts seperated, naturally.
Bodycount should be a factor because of all the asscioated risk factors that come along with it.
>Bodycount is not that important.
It is, it tells you about her psychological traits, impulsiveness, agreeableness, temperament, moral compass, perspective about relationships, and other important stuff if we think about it
No it really doesn't. It is possible it is a result of one those, but it isn't a guarantee at all.
All those things can change. I know being consequent is an admirable trait. It's also a trait we ascribe to men. I'm a very different person now, than when I was in my twenties. So why hold women up to a higher standard? I'm not talking about women the football team ran a train on. I'm talking about everyday women. If she had 15-20 partners before me, that's fine.
Have fun being a virgin at 33 like me
You'll have to compromise make sure the girls have no stds or mental issues then their good to go
Are stds really that prevalent? I feel like most people regardless of gender even if they sleep around a lot are looking after themselves in that regard. Just wear a condom if you're really super concerned.
>Are stds really that prevalent?
There's been a massive spike in recent years and they're becoming drug-resistant
Yeah my ex got tested but i wouldn't sleep with her after she admitted ahe slept with vaxxies so basically same thing
>Cheap pussy is everywhere, single mothers, ghetto trash, ugly women, a fancy dinner, a few drinks and most of the time sex is just like a digestion exercise for some of these prostitutes, idk what the frick is wrong with you guys
what the frick do you think is wrong? You answered your own question in the same sentence.
I rewatched it recently. Apart from the still common-at-the-time tactic to frick drunk chicks, the part that probably seems so strange 15 years later is how utterly shocked everyone was that someone could be a virgin even after college.
>be 15
>have severe acne on face and body
>school is going poorly
>just accept its over
>live in my bubble
>now im 32
many such cases apparently. i dont think its anything new the internet just exposes it to the world, as opposed to before you'd just fade into the dirt.
The internet massively overstates everything though. You only have to see how little Twitter drama means to the outside world to realise that.
well, yes. going by the internet you'd think these virgins are a menace, when really you're just steve carrell living your mediocre life
And yet that's a massive issue and a huge boogeyman apparently.
Some of them become boogeymen because that's how they've been treated by society. But for the most part, there is no such thing.
And while I'll never agree with violence for the sake of an emotional outburst, I believe in making one's self more prepared as a way to shield yourself from the world.
I understand that I won't receive the same amount of love from the world that I would be willing to give it, but that doesn't mean I have to accept its hatred for me either.
You shouldn't be a doormat to be walked over, regardless of the rest.
The worst ones become Elliott Rodger and inflict the most damage, therefore they receive the most attention. This is the way with most groups - the negative minority are the focus.
Exactly. I'd wager most incels are just shy and maybe insecure guys who just need that confidence boost to put themselves out there and not the women-hating crazies who think sex is owed to them or something,
The difficult part isn't the act of being subpar in itself, but the fact that society can't seem to let it go, and leave you to your own devices as it were.
It's like a pack of hyenas that come knocking on your door every now and then to make themselves known.
Despite that, I think there is worth in being able to stand up for yourself even if society has rejected you. Not to get them to like you, but to fend for your own self and your security.
>fat 38 year old virgin who lives with his mum
>had crippling social anxiety since as long as I can remember (like 4 years old)
>never done anything with a girl
>never had any friends
>haven't spoken to a female I'm not related to in 20 years
>depression since 16
>live in the sticks, no social opportunities
>people in pubs/bars just go out in groups of friends and don't want to talk to anyone else
>nothing to say anyway, no conversation ability or any life experience to talk about
>no women in sausage-fest workplace
>just work, eat, drink and sleep
>food and drink the only things that give me pleasure
>literally no memories
I'm thinking prostitution is the only way out of this
Yes and no. While sex is a physical need like anything else, your post suggests you want the actual companionship.
>Sex
>Physical need
Not true.
Okay sure it isn't life dependent but in most cases someone feels mentally better getting it than when they aren't getting it. Especially if you have a naturally higher sex drive.
That's not available though. I just want to see what sex is like. If I don't pay for it, I'm going to go my whole life without ever so much as touching a woman.
Then seeing a sex worker is your answer. It is not shameful to satisfy that curiosity.
Dont worry bro my first gf was my mom was in similar situation to you then only got my first new ex gf at 31
Women theae days are not worth losing sleep over go cuddle your mom and maybe get her boobies out
Dont let them demoralise you to die a virgin go get a fat and or insecure gf and be happy.
As long as she doesnt have literal vaids who cares?
Because I am a virgin and will expect to remain so until marriage so I expect the same from her.
You're three centuries too late.
Again, I ain't budging. Sorry.
You've nothing to apologise for. Your virginity is not our problem to solve. As long as you accept that your standards greatly minimise your pool of potential options.
I don't care. Why should I lower my standards? I went a full year without a text message from a woman who wasnt my relative. I am getting a really nice job in a STEM industry and am pretty fit. I expect her to not sleep around before she tries to date me. You can go drive and get your car wrapped around a tree for all I care.
Do you realise what era and in what part of the world you live in? My first gf wasnt a virgin and i am still. My point is theres more virgin man then women in western countries
So why is that an excuse? I waited, so why can't she?
Because
Women
Are
moronic
Well atleast you admit it.
Oh trust me it took not much to realise that women are moronic coomers
>tell anon its fine as long as he's fine with the results
>tells me to wrap my car around a tree
Ah I see I was wrong. Your virgin excuse is cope, and you can't get laid purely because you're a narcissistic c**t with none of the charm.
Alright, I am twlling you now, go into your garage, get into your prius, and start driving 45 mph on a backroad. Get yourself and that prius wrapped around a helix around some Oak.
Is this how you talk to women?
Kek i straight up say to them i want kids and 99% run away its a great filter im 100% straight up if they dont like it fk off hahahs
Honestly I'd be filtering the ones that stuck around if one of the first things I said implied I wanted to put a baby in them. Has me wonder how desperate they are for a baby at that point and why it hadn't happened already.
Indeed
And i did run kek she was nuuuts already had 4 kids lost them to hubby
Loool
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If you've fapped your not a virgin who gives a shit stop holding up rediculous standards.
Join the nearest and strictest church, I guess
I wouldn't even know how to do that.
Virgin here use your wizard powers and do a skid
>Be KHV until 21
>get GF
>have sex with at her least 50 times
>She breaks up with me
>22 now and haven’t had sex in 7 months
Am I just allowed to chill with a body count of 1 or do I have to keep sleeping around? Is it too late to receive my normie license?
32yr virgin guy here I couldn't give a shit anymore my ex was a b***h let them stay single or whatever i couldn't give a shit frick women lel
Honestly the sex was fun but the effort was too much, I still feel a little pathetic for not getting any action after the break up. I think getting with someone who didn’t gross me out was a once in lifetime thing
It's too early for you to even be worrying about any of that incel/normie shit.