Is Cartoon Mark gonna cry like a b***h and hug his mass murdering father like in the comics
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Is Cartoon Mark gonna cry like a b***h and hug his mass murdering father like in the comics
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Probably not
it’s always sad to see people who can’t even comprehend unconditional love for one’s family
Anon is probably still upset about his dad leaving
they look like this
Why do a disproportionate amount of radicals have poor eyesight? It's like this with white nationalists too.
disgenetics breads fundamental hatred.
>breads
alpha chad centrists who don't have time for extremist homosexualry like you and I are blessed with perfect vision. those who lack balance are struck by physical imperfection
>centrists
>the people stupid enough to think two contradictory ideals can blend into anything remotely functional
>chads
lmao
You mean like gravitational and electromagnetic attraction and the repulsion of nuclear forces preventing molecules from collapsing in on each other? Funny how idiots don't understand basic mathematical concepts such as "we don't live in a literal singularity."
I'm not actually a centrist, it's just a trend I noticed.
With Eve's dad, I think it comes down to people thinking he's a shitty dad based almost entirely on the fact that he's a fat working class man. He fits the media created perception of what a bad father looks like.
>With Eve's dad, I think it comes down to people thinking he's a shitty dad based almost entirely on the fact that he's a fat working class man. He fits the media created perception of what a bad father looks like.
Omni-Man literally put his son in front of a fricking train and people think Eve's dad is bad.
God, this world is populated by fricking idiots.
You see the trend among morons, they hate most fathers in general due to issues but a specific kind of dad always strikes the nerves just right. It’s the mundane working class one that works a lot, usually holding traditional values and is set in his ways.
the one that does everything right but is somehow wrong because he doesn't say it in a nice way
no wonder everything is going to shit
>With Eve's dad, I think it comes down to people thinking he's a shitty dad based almost entirely on the fact that he's a fat working class man. He fits the media created perception of what a bad father looks like.
homie Eve's dad is bad because is fricking up his daughters sense of self-worth since she was a kid, just because hes not a genocidal maniac doesnt mean he doesnt need to improve as a person, a lot
That's not true though. You made that up after the fact to justify your dislike of a character which is based entirely on vibes.
At no point does he belittle her, say she can't do something, make light of her abilities or infantilise her. He argues with her that he wants her to forgive Rex and get back in the team because he doesn't want her to do the super hero act alone. What's more is that this is clearly what Eve's mother ALSO wants. But people aren't calling her abusive.
Watch the Atom Eve special. He’s been treating her poorly and calling her a freak since she was a little kid. He’s not a good dad in any way. He’s not Nolan bad, sure, but very few people after the power to wield their son as a weapon to destroy buildings and put face first through a train.
If anything the special kinda makes her Mom also a bit of a shitty parent, either echoing her Dad or just being a passive aggressive c**t.
Yeah, they’re both crummy. He’s a jackass who seems like he didn’t even want a kid and resents Eve even more for not being normal, and her mom almost completely unable to stand up to him to protect her daughter.
It’s no wonder she idealizes what her family should have been so hard.
What proportion are you pretending is "correct"? Use of glasses varies enormously based on job, and even the lowest use rate is still pretty high.
Spotted the bugman. Only Asian countries and Zoomers have substantial glasses usage at young age. It's caused by never going outside during youth, where the eyes can actually learn to use and develop muscles by look at things other than a screen.
Not sure what point you think you're making.
>why do these political views equal x
>wait, it's actually because they're young
>picture is not just young people
>picture actually shows fewer glasses than you'd expect from the general american population
anything else you'd like to screech about while you're here, ya dumb c**t?
Yeah, chips with flavor dust on them are absolute dogshit.
Found the moron. Oh and before you respond with "I SAID KIDS", about 48% (so half) of teens in the US between 12 - 17 wear glasses.
>https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7023a4.htm
>https://www.warbyparker.com/learn/how-many-people-wear-glasses
So are you some boomer frick or just a shut-in? Be honest.
Blinded by extremism
Eye strain from being terminally online
>It's like this with white nationalists too.
Examples?
I remember watcher the anti israel protest in DC a while back and they all looked like blue collar White guys in their 40's
Fricking mr mitosis man
Most families don't commit genocide, and the ones that do definitely do not love each other unconditionally
umm, george lucas begs to differ.....
Darth Vader has one of the worst redemption in fiction
and those are both good things.
You're an idiot.
Darth vader didnt have a redemption arc he never changed
Anakin's obsessive love for Padme is what destroyed him and turned him into a monster.
doesn't he abandon his earth based family and friends?
He comes back eventually
people thinking eve's dad is a legitimately horrible person is even worse
like, holy shit
Her dad is just kind of gross and unlikable.
stupid image,women will complain to HR even in the first scenario
No, anon. You're just ugly. Sorry.
Not unless they think they can get something better than the attention of a good looking guy.
The problem is her dad is someone you could literally meet, it's easy to have real person feelings when it's character written to act like someone they might actually know
Eve's dad loves his daughter but he's still a bad dad, unsupportive and demeaning despite his intentions to show her daughter reasoning. I think the show has ramped up his negative attributes a bit too much, even when he has a point the show paints it in the worst light
I mean, eh, last episode made a good point that just because she has super powers, doesn't mean she doesn't need to think before she acts. He just phrased it in the most obnoxious and c**tish way possible. Also blaming her and 'her people' for the aliens that destroyed Chicago was out of line.
He’s kind of a douche but yeah he isn’t the worst dad
Nothing sad about having self respect
I dunno man if my dad beat the absolute shit out of me, called my mother his pet, and than killed thousands of people I would probably at the very least have a dismissive opinion of him
Yeah some people have a weird cucked mentality when it comes to family. Like the ghost of Ronald Reagan putting them in some kind of weird choke hold.
We all realize Nolan calling Debbie a pet was just him trying to psyche himself up into doing what he thought he needed to do.
We realize that, but Mark at first did not. That's out of universe knowledge and it doesn't stop the fact that he did indeed beat the shit out of his son.
Really had no other choice since had he not then Mark in turn would've beaten him to a pulp to stop him from taking over the Earth. Both outcomes however would lead to one or the other beaten to near death but left there since neither would kill one another.
>Really had no other choice since had he not then Mark in turn would've beaten him to a pulp to stop him from taking over the Earth.
Bruh he absolutely didn't needed to, he pretty sure was more than capable of incapacitating his son without leaving him half dead, and Mark sure as frick was not going to be capable of doing to his father even a dent of the beat down he received from him
Nolan could have just checked Earth off as a failure. I mean he doesn't even kill the entire male population and breed with every female from the get-go. Nolan obviously had an attachment to Earth, count your chickens and move onto another planetary shit hole to do your Viltrumite genocide midwittedness somewhere else.
If you let your dad talk to your mom that way, you're a coward.
Mark just comes off as a pussy with the mental maturity of a 6 year old
To be fair how the show would play it would probably play up his PTSD of the fight. Mark isn't mentally sound, he isn't being reasonable. He wants a magical solution to his trauma.
Do you really think that Eve's dad would go over better if he was hot while saying "Yeah I'm pretty sure my daughter is a THOT"
>He wants a magical solution to his trauma.
He's grief stricken and he misses his father he doesn't expect things will magically get better. He's looking to his dad to make things right because all his life his father was his rock and one of the people he could most rely on. After his dad leave his family falls apart his mom is pretty much emotionally absent
>Do you really think that Eve's dad would go over better if he was hot while saying "Yeah I'm pretty sure my daughter is a THOT"
You can get away with a lot of shit if you're hot. And women will be the ones that will forgive you.
>Do you really think that Eve's dad would go over better if he was hot while saying "Yeah I'm pretty sure my daughter is a THOT"
Yes, people would call him a Sigma Gigachad for admitting his daughter is a bawd.
to be fair he is like 17 or 18 year old kid in that pic who from his perspective just lost his dad. By all account Nolan was a great dad, loving husband, and great hero up until the incident with the fake JL, the bad shit that happened was so out of tune with what Mark thought of his dad that the first thing he did before they fought was assume that his dad was being mind controlled.
It's perfectly rational response from a teenager.
That’s like an adult. It’s more in line with a 13 year old who doesn’t understand his dad is a killer.”
Yeah… I’d at least initially be angry at my father. I’d probably still have some love somewhere still but… yeah…
You say that but Nolan talked shit about Mark's mom and she became a depressed drunk with a broken heart. Oh well, she forgives him too and they later on frick like nothing happened.
My father was an alcoholic who beat me up, my mother neglected me and sexually abused me.
There is no such thing as family, its an illusion, father's kill sons and sons kill father's and this happens constantly and has been happening since man took his first step
There are people living miserable lives because they believe they have to sacrifice for a piece of shit just because they are family, break free, treat people as equals, with respect and respect yourself too
The sad thing is families exist they are real. Where mothers and fathers do everything in their power to make sure their kids have a good life your. family just didn't love you you're projecting your life onto everyone else
he says, doing the same shit
They don't exist, family means nothing, there are strangers out there who are generally more similar to you than your family members, at least 1/3 of father's are raising kids from another man without knowing it, during a study they measured the gifts children get for their birthdays and they get more from their maternal grandmother than the grandma from their father's side because people subconsciously know that the kid may not actually be family
Hell there are people who give their kids away and people who adopt them, there are father's who leave, mothers who leave and siblings who raise each other
Just because people believe in family and act as if family is a thing doesn't make it real, if I believe that going outside with an umbrella means it won't rain and I carry an umbrella for two months and it doesn't rain it doesn't mean the umbrella has magical powers but I'm still dry, I'm not telling you that illusion can't be powerful but it's still illusion, incest had to get banned over and over because family members would frick each other, it only eventually became something we don't want to do and the same is true for everything, maybe in 200 years the concept of father will disappear entirely. Water, soil, fire, those are real things and will continue to be real forever
what do you believe thhis proves?
It's not proving anything outside of the blunt reality of the familial unit. This has been displayed not only in the animal kingdom but throughout human history in the vast majority of cultures, civilized or otherwise.
Genetics are also the biggest factor of how you're going to develop and you're overall success in life, family is a concept literally hard wired into the brain and so saying it isn't real is like saying cheese isn't real and that pic related is just "curdled milk"
Would you forgive your father if he raped you or your sibling? Or killed your mom?
Yes. Because I know he did it out of fear. A parent always knows what is best. Something you homosexual atheists don't understand
>A parent always knows what is best
So my dad was right for smoking meth lmao
Nobody said you should forgive rapists Satan. I'm saying that a bad family does not invalidate the concept of a family or the reality that families exist on a real psychological and genetic level, because it exists on a fundamental level for the human psyche. A faulty familial unit doesn't change that, its why people have lasting psychological trauma that typically defines their behavior and relationship patterns from surviving child abuse.
Answer the question
No, that would be pretty fricked
Yes because the bible taught me he was just confused and didn't know how to express himself and needed more time in the church and seeking god and there is nothing inherently wrong about him and no reason to suspect he will ever act this way again
There is no need for a 30 year old man to keep a relationship with his 60 year old mother, he is a grown adult who doesn't need being taken care of, if you are going to appeal to nature I'm going to point out that no animal, except for whales, keep a family bond for life
it means if you're going to divorce the parent of your child, don't remarry until your kid is over 5
It proves that YOUR CHANCES OF WINNIN...DRASTIC GO DOWN.
The fact that bad people exist and shitty people have kids they don't want doesn't negate the fact that happy families exist with safe homes and love and trust. The fact spaghetti which is horrible and disgusting exists doesn't cancel the fact that something like chicken soup also exists.
>The fact spaghetti which is horrible and disgusting exists
You've invalidated your entire argument with this
I found you, you filthy Italian how can you even type with all that tomato sauce on your wretched fingers
People who cohabitate in the same house in Wich one or more members were impregnated and may have given birth to other members exists
Any of those members can leave at any point for any duration of time, they can also not leave
They can just never speak to each other again but can keep talking
Just because they choose A instead of B or B instead of C doesn't mean there is a magic force inside the house forcing anyone to do anything, that's entirely on your mind
the magic force is literally a hormones that initiate mental bonding to your family stupid.
How much of it is hormones and how much of it is social pressure?
Hormones are supposed to stop working after some point, why would a woman who have gone through menopause feel things because of her hormones for her adult son/daughter
The brain is literally rewired, its not a matter of temporarily induced affection. Your biochemisitry changes.
This sounds like it was written by a black kid
The only difference between me and a black kid is that my father had a job that's it, woke people can bring up any bullshit they want, I grew up a trashy Black person who ate candy instead of dinner, didn't know how to brush my teeth until I was an adult and was on a wienertail of pills because I was aggressive to other kids, hell I didn't know my body needed water so I had a glass of milk and a can of soda and that was it and peeing hurt and my pee smelled awful and was dark yellow and I thought that's how it was supposed to be
My parents would frick off all day and give a couple bucks to a neighbors daughter to look after me and she thought she was hilarious to show me porn, I was like 7? I would have been fricking molested by her if my parents didn't get rid of her fir unrated issues
>There is no such thing as family, its an illusion
Sucks to suck I guess but my family is great. Maybe your bloodline is just funky.
>My father was an alcoholic who beat me up, my mother neglected me and sexually abused me.
What did you do to provoke them? Because when both your parents are "abusive" the common element is you.
Why were you such a bawd? Ever consider your mom's feelings?
damn if i was your father i would want to drink too
I don't know man, if my dad committed multiple genocides I might have to stop hugging him at least.
This is Cinemaphile a place full of psychopaths who don't understand some people can't shake loving someone even if they committed horrible acts, because they can't bring themselves to love someone on a regular occasion.
Bro if someone I knew was a murderer, I would not "unconditionally" love them. I think that's more the sociopathic take, IMO.
I mean, later on given that we find out Nolan has a genetic drive towards violence and conquest and his upbringing and that Mark has the same genetics, I can understand cutting his dad a bit of slack.
Just saying, I wouldn't throw the "Cinemaphile is full of maladjusted people" card at someone saying they WOULDN'T support a murderer. Even if it was their dad.
Depends on the reason honestly. If it's a guy that was killing and raping kids, I would say, yeah no, dead to me.
Brainwashed into turning your genetic tendency towards violence and conquest into vanguarding the space empire? Eh.
I wouldn’t say brainwashed. Indoctrinated is more like it. Personally I felt it worked for comic Invincible but cartoon Nolan and Mark’s fight showed a lot more sadism. But yeah, if my dad mass murdered someone that would kinda have me cut him off.
Still comes off as full of crap to say you can just cut your parent who prior to act was fully loving and saved millions of people off that easy.
Anyone that has seen drug abuse in a family knows how hard it is to rip that cancer out and those are often good for nothings. Omi man would easily be a swirl of conflicting emotions when put on the spot.
I dunno, man, there's a difference between drug abuse, and murder. Especially if it's clear cut actual murder. Of a lot of people. I'm not trying to step on any toes if you had a bad experience with a family member, but I think you'd have to have something wrong inside to still have love for someone who went on a purposeful killing spree.
Well the show has done pretty well showing the conflict. Neither mark or debi have been trying to excuse it and instead what you would expect the grieving process to be like. Next ep will probably be a better indicator depending on Mark's reactions.
Most victims never forget the love of the person they were before the acts but understand why they must be punished. The comics were pretty light in that respect.
>bro, if you don't forgive your genocidal racist space father who almost beat you to death you're a bad son
Bet you're the type of fricking moron who would try sue the police department if one of your frick head family members got justifiably shot after they commit a crime. Get fricked.
That's oddly specific.
Arrest videos and videos showing people getting convicted and sent to prison have become extremely popular lately
It's like true crime and that stuff but without the fluff just watching a cop slam someone against the pavement then watching the questioning and watching the judge send them to prison
Unconditional love is bullshit. If you went home and stabbed your father, I guarantee he would just smile and wave it off.
>Sure he may have committed genocide but he's still my dad damnit!
it is like a israelite embracing his israeli grandpa, they wouldn't understand
All love’s conditional. Some people just have higher conditions than others
I'm sorry your father and mother never loved you OP
He could just, spent a couple hundred years in prison, he is going to live a million years anyways
To all the people who think having a dad that commits genocide is cool:
Hitler is not your dad and you beaners need to look in the mirror more
>anime reaction image
opinion discarded 🙂
>reminding the aryan larping mexiBlack folk that they will never be white
always based
Who would win in a fist fight, Adolf Hitler or Théoneste Bagosora?
the art for this series looked good when the artist actually tried (he made this pic)
I CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS
YOU SHOULD
FOR TEN YEARS AT LEAST
On a scale of 1 to 10 how much should I go and buy the Invincible comics from my local comic shop after watching the first season of the show and knowing nothing else about it
0 just read it on readcomiconline
Pros:
It's fun
It's easy and fast to read
It's cheap (if you but compendiums)
Cons:
Some characters are really moronic and if your IQ is above 5, you will get really, really enjoyed with their actions
Artist change for few issues and he sucks
Also author is really into cucking, so here's that
buy*
annoyed, not enjoyed, no idea what happened here*
So, do the vitrumates ever get humbled? Like, does someone ever beats the shit out if them? At least once? They kinda deserve it
Several times.
Anyone got mega for the new ep?
What exactly do people want Mark to do here instead?
Fly off without trying to get answers or any resolution, closure or assurance Earth is safe?
Try and fight his dad when he knows he has no chance of winning and cause the death of countless aliens?
He could rape Omniman into submission. He had to have learned a few tricks from Anissa
This was long before he ever met anissa. Don’t think he even met conquest or other viltrumites yet
Damn, someone needs to hurry up and rape Mark so he can rape his father and save the world
Wish me luck
Hot
>Try and fight his dad when he knows he has no chance of winning and cause the death of countless aliens?
Unironically yeah. Don’t bend the knee. Even Steven Universe didn’t have Steven beg the diamonds to be a family with him and start sobbing about how they can make everything better
Fighting to no positive outcome isn’t actually a heroic thing. Especially when it means innocents die
Mark cannot defeat him. He already knows his dad won’t kill him. He’d just be getting beat up for kicks
>Mark cannot defeat him. He already knows his dad won’t kill him. He’d just be getting beat up for kicks
That just makes him a quitter. Naruto or Ichigo would fight because they’re not pussies. All it takes is a lucky shot
Never watched those shows, so I gotta ask when did those guys get used as murder weapons to kill hundreds of people by their respective villians?
Because that's what's at stake here, Mark's up against a monster who'd kill countless innocents just to prove a basic point. If it was just Mark and Nolan on a deserted world that'd be one thing, but starting a fight on mantis world could mean the deaths of billions, he has to at least try to talk his way out
>Because that's what's at stake here, Mark's up against a monster who'd kill countless innocents just to prove a basic point.
That’s like every anime villain. Pain nuked Konoha. Doesn’t mean you don’t fight
>t. Would let his hotel wins rape just because it would be safer than fighting back
>Only fights when he knows he’ll win
Wow how heroic
Mark, stop rubbing your junk up against your father's junk.
Reading the comic again, I had completely forgotten that Mark cheated on Amber first.
Maybe that's why they made her such a c**t in the cartoon.
It's Mark's love for his dad that changes him and breaks through the Viltrumite brainwashing. Besides, Mark has nobody else to learn more about himself from, and will outlive all his other family and friends. What will he have left after 500 years?
>what will he have after 500 years
Potentially everything if one of superscience people on Earth gave out anti-aging pills
>What will he have left after 500 years?
yeah and later in the comic we learn that mark throws away a chance to have a better universe, which makes him just as bad as his father
Mark is a c**t.
Just finished the episode, it ends with Mark seeing Nolan on Thraxa, saying "Dad?" then cut to credits
Its hilarious how feminine Mark is portrayed
>overly emotional like a woman
>gets raped like woman
He will because Invincible is an edgelord wankfest.
I remember a big thread a while back about this part of the story.
In the real world, you can find multiple cases of children of family members crying or "caring" for their parents or loved ones, despite them objectively being bad people or doing bad things. This is not a "let's hug it out" or "it is what is", this is just someone who's viewed this person in a way more positive and emotional way before compared to now, and despite UNDERSTANDING that they are a bad person, can't fully come around to hate them....
Or not.
Tons of people (including people I personally know), have shitty family members and/or parents, and have come to fully hate them or disconnect from, and their POV or feelings are valid. I really think its dumb that people pull out the "they're your [insert familial relation]", it's dumb, preachy
>TL;DR?
Mark is neither right or wrong for how he views/cares for his Dad. As long as Mark (or anyone really) acknowledges a persons specific actions and demand them to get better and STAY better, then that's fine.
I will say Debbie's reaction to Omni is probably the most rational or sane. She's never really the same afterwards but she grows to love Nolan again
I liked the part where Mark couldn't bear to throw out his doggo toy
He's just like me with my Paw Patrols!!
There fricking better not be a follow up pic with a jar
How could y'all explain to your children with this show and comics?
Don't think so, the show rushed to Mark meeting Nolan again without a fraction of the mess Mark was dealing on Earth at the time, Mark was dealing with shit that made him wish to see his father again, meanwhile show!Mark is fresh from the trauma from fighting his father still, it would be awkward for him to just break down and hug Nolan, wanting him to come back.
I would hug my dad no matter what.
Mark is half Asian in the show. So yes, like a overemotional Filipino b***h.
It'd be pretty tonally weird.
I think you can sort of excuse it in the comic but not in the show. In the comic they didn't really highlight the carnage of people in their fight like they did in the show.
Like yes. A shit ton of people died, but it's not given nearly the same level of attention.
The body count is irrelevant, thousands of people died in their fight both in the comic and show, the difference is that in show Nolan was more of a bastard by killing some on a whim; what would make it weird in the show is Mark meeting his dad again so soon, in the comic he was going a series of frick ups that made him realize the world without a powerful superhero like his father is pretty hard to maintain, so suddenly meeting his father again broke him, wanting to have that safe heaven that Nolan once provided by just being there, regardless of him revealing himself to be a space tyrant.
Comparably, in the show Mark hasn't gone through all the fumbles he went through without his father as a crutch, specially concerning the fact some of those events in the comic got rearranged to happen when Nolan was still around in the show, like Mark fighting against Battle Beast.
>even the lady and dude inside the very van that Mark AND Nolan landed on are thrown outside without blood
I mean that is just ridiculously funny compared to what we got on the show.
Maybe? I don't think they'd duke it out. Mark is clearly not in the best mental headspace, so seeing his dad NOT trying to beat him into a pulp is at least a good thing on some perspective.
In the comics the mom is also portrayed as a pathetic drunk until she gets dick. I imagine she won't be so quick to forgive Nolan in the show
>Mark gonna cry like a b***h
Only after he gets butt fricked repeatedly by Nolan.
Why didn't he just jizz in a cup and give it to Anissa?
anissa wouldn't have settled for it
i love her so much for this
With only 50 or so of them left I'm surprised Space Freddy Mercury wasn't at least trying to put some babies in the women. It's not going to fix the inbred thing but would help them bring up the numbers a bit. Viltrumites could probably conquer planets up to a few days before birth.
Nah. The Viltrumite Empire is extremely spread out as is. Who knows how many worlds a single viltrumite is assigned to? A pregnant female means who knows how many worlds without an overlord.
Remember they bread only aggression in their race. The females get extremely resentful being knocked up. They also probably have some sort of rotation system of which female is knocked up as well given the numbers.
Why did Mark assume Luke's superhero name was "Black-Man"?
Because asians are racist towards blacks.