You just didn't get it.
Iron Man 3 is a classic Shane Blake's metahumor and post irony movie. Mocking the capeshit.
He's done it before with action movies or classic Universal monsters.
>classic Shane Blake's metahumor and post irony movie. Mocking the capeshit.
Directors who do that shit can frick right off. Also see
>introduce the most based villain in the series >it's a fake-out
Nah, Iron Man 3 was trash.
I fricking despise directors who do stuff like that. "Hehehe, I really subverted your expectations, didn't I? Aren't I clever?" It's just tiresome and doesn't belong in this kind of genre film.
To be fair, Rourke said they fricked him and cut a lot of his part out, and I find that credible. They were trying to combine the Crimson Dynamo and Whiplash, which is a stupid concept, and the execution turned out even worse.
That's like not knowing what Lex Luthor is supposed to be like and seeing the Jesse Eisenberg version and thinking, "That guy was pretty entertaining". The problem is you don't know what you're missing.
I understand them not wanting to use the Crimson Dynamo after the first movie due to similarities with Stane's Iron Monger suit at the end, (which during production there was some question about who the villain would be and the Dynamo was one possibility). But if you ever learn what you missed out on and what a weaksauce version he is of better villains he's based on, you're going to see how much they took from you.
Even Stane is so much better in the comics it sticks in my craw a bit. The guy's whole schtick is he's a Chessmaster thinks multiple moves ahead and has backup alternate strategies out the arse. Stark can only beat him by dealing with every single one, and is still denied the full satisfaction of victory, not to mention Stane living up to his name so Tony is still trying to deal with his remaing corrupt business bullshit for years after.
Did you see the chessboard in the background on Stane's table that is never used or mentioned? If you read the comics you did, but that's all you got of that aspect of his character, he was just otherwise a ruthless and shrewd businessgay. All the shit with the earpieces and double-crossing the terrorists would have worked so much better if there was a little bit more of the comic book Stane before and after. This was part of him that was filmed but got cut:
?t=10
His death in the comics is better and more memorable but at least this shows they were trying to do something with him that far into production.
He was fun, but that scene in particular was pretty dumb. He survives getting hit by a car and punched by iron man multiple times.
He didn't even wear a suit, he just had whippy things. His bones should have been pulverized.
1 is solid and can stand on its own as a real movie
2 has really dumb writing, but at least has cool action scenes
3 is a mess writing wise and the suits are suddenly all made of paper mache. Also the conclusion of the movie is instantly retconned in the next cross-over movie.
>Also the conclusion of the movie is instantly retconned in the next cross-over movie.
What was retconned?
I always found Stark getting surgery to remove to the shrapnel at the end of 3 stupid since it was the entire basis of 2
The whole conclusion of the movie is that he has to be Tony Stark, who is not reliant on his suits, and give up on being Iron Man. He removes the shrapnel and the reactor for his chest and destroys all the suits.
Then next movie it's all shrugged off and he is back to being regular old Iron Man. Makes the entire third movie pointless.
Iron Man is an interesting case, because you can clearly see the effect of the MCU felt most clearly.
Iron Man 1 is a movie that Disney would not make. It has Tony bring a bunch of strippers serve as flight attendants on his private jet. It's relatively down to earth, set is "Afghanistan" and fighting "Afghanistan terrorists" which is just one-step removed from reality. It was pretty gritty, some of the shots in those movies would not be put in a Marvel movie these days. Tony takes headshots with bullets, he shoots to kill, he murders people visibly on screen, like 12 at a time. You see men with actual guns, assault rifles that you can see in real life.
Iron Man 2 started as a sequel to the original Iron Man, mostly down to earth with a tone consistent with the original, but then you clearly see the MCU taking over about halfway through. The movie that Favreau wanted to make was tossed out and they wanted to shoehorn in MCU characters to establish them in the narrative. Still, the movie is 75% original MCU and 25% Disney MC.
Iron Man 3 was a full product of the modern MCU. Tony doesn't use guns to murder people, he mostly blows them away to disable or disarm them. Heavily leans on the comedy, very shlocky and silly all things considered. The plot is several layers removed from reality, it's almost entirely in its own fictional universe. Safe and clean, very little blood or grit.
The best MCU movies are IronMan and WinterSoldier because of their grounding.
The totality of Stark's coolness (MCU's coolest character) originates from the first 30minutes of the first MCU movie, where he fricks strippers and mudslimes.
The best MCU movies are IronMan and WinterSoldier because of their grounding.
The totality of Stark's coolness (MCU's coolest character) originates from the first 30minutes of the first MCU movie, where he fricks strippers and mudslimes.
captain america has the merit of having three good movies. civil war is a universe done right because it has weight if you saw the prior movies
The only canon MCU movies are :
a. Thor 1
b.c. IronMan 1,2
d. Captain America 1
e. Avengers 1
f. Captain America 2
g. Avengers 2
h. Civil War
i. Black Panther
j. Infinity War
The two homie pantha movies are the only mcu movies I haven’t seen (and the ones after endgame of course because frick disney)
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The real tragedy of Black person Pather was that character was actually cool until he got his own movie. I loved him in Civil War and his interaction with Zemo. Was really thinking they were going to make a great and noble Black person character. But then you see Wakanda, which is like seeing Zion in the Matrix instead of just hearing about it, what a fricking joke. He could have survived his own first meh film, (if you'll pardon the pun), but by then these morons were just going full anti-white male and diversity shit, so the character ironically never had a snowball's chance in chance in Hell going forward.
I remember being awfully disappointed at avengers 2 for how inconsequential it felt. Guess compared to today it has the merit of being just average... Good list , I dare add gardians of the galaxy because they are funny on their own
This is not a quality list.
I intentionally left out some movies because they work better as surprises e.g. Hulk in Avengers 1, GiantMan in Civil War, the Guardians....wait.....SHIT they are way too canon! That's where we meet Thanos and the Collector explains the nature of the Inf.Stones !... frick frick
ok
Guardians are in, and Black Panthera is out I guess ? or just add Endgame (yuck) to make it a nice list of 12 movies.
The only canon MCU movies are :
a. Thor 1
b.c. IronMan 1,2
d. Captain America 1
e. Avengers 1
f. Captain America 2
g. Avengers 2
h. Civil War
i. Black Panther
j. Guardians of the Galaxy
k. Infinity War
L. Endgame
The Captain America films had the best throughline in the MCU, varying from serviceable to excellent, and the later one retrospectively made the prior ones better.
Evans was pitch perfect. Didn't like the Peggy actress though which kind of undermined it a little.
The only canon MCU movies are :
a. Thor 1
b.c. IronMan 1,2
d. Captain America 1
e. Avengers 1
f. Captain America 2
g. Avengers 2
h. Civil War
i. Black Panther
j. Guardians of the Galaxy
k. Infinity War
L. Endgame
10 , perfect number
PROTIP: Ultron gets better the more you watch it. Underrated.
I hated it at first, because it's very jarring how quickly it rushes through shit like >create Vision >hey guys I'm Vision >two seconds later >hey you're an Avenger now let's go fight Ultron >okay
It's extremely rushed, but it's all there if you pay attention. Like if you just assume everyone is quick on the uptake, a bunch of geniuses who think two steps ahead and communicate in shorthand, (and to be fair there is not shortage of those in the Avengers), then it all makes some kind of sense.
It's not a good way to for them to have done it, to jam everything in that tight, but I kinda understand why, and once you've seen it and you know what's coming that gives you the information you need to catch up and stay with it.
You'll notice another effect that you can compare to the 90's Batman films too. >First movie, no "serious actor" wants to be in superhero shit. Comic books are for kids? I'm a THESPIAN!!! I played Richard the Third. I wont dirty my hands being in THOSE kinds of movies. >Get some washed up, unknown, or actor just looking for a paycheque and stick him in the role, some director nobody really cares about because it's all considered risky anyway. >Succeeds. >Breeds more success, draws more money and higher budgets. >Suddenly even homosexual actor in Hollywood wants into the superhero money trough and popularity, also directors, etc. >Start using their Hollywood clout to get in and start changing shit to what they think capeshit should be about. >Whole thing becomes a big self-aware shitfest full of Libshit actor politics and perceptions about what comic heroes are. >"Ice to see you". >When you hear every homosexual actor saying "I did it for my kids" in interviews that's when it's pretty well fricked.
Absolutely this. First Iron Man has more in common with Nolan's Batman trilogy, tonally, than any of the following MCU movies. There's a difference between action movies, who just happen to have comic book characters, like Nolanman and Iron Man (2008) and full-on capeshit like the MCU and DCEU.
Based. Been saying this always. Iron man 2 is straight kino. Idk if people forget he straight out synthesisizes a whole new element into existence. Actually badass
>he straight out synthesisizes a whole new element into existence
That's not as hard as it sounds, anon.
See this periodic table? All the purple elements were made in basically the same way. Basically anyone who has access to a particle accelerator can make new elements.
Thanks for highlighting what actually sucks about the MCU. Just reading comics isn't enough, you have to watch 1000+ shows and movies to even understand what the frick is going on, even for characters you don't give a shit about.
>introduce the most based villain in the series >it's a fake-out
Nah, Iron Man 3 was trash.
I fricking despise directors who do stuff like that. "Hehehe, I really subverted your expectations, didn't I? Aren't I clever?" It's just tiresome and doesn't belong in this kind of genre film.
>I fricking despise directors who do stuff like that. "Hehehe, I really subverted your expectations, didn't I? Aren't I clever?"
I notice it's because they have nothing interesting to say. Nothing that would justify the seriousness. I think that's what they feel. It's a way to avoid ridicule that someone like Nolan gets because he's sincere even with the most ridiculous of concepts.
There was nothing wrong with that in principle. Stark has been without his armour in the comics, or pared-down versions, but again the execution kinda sucked, and adding the kid was just fricking moronic.
Again I know what they were TRYING to do, and maybe it could have even worked with Kingsley if that scene wasn't so silly and off-putting.
But basically since it was all a result of them tripping over themselves to be 'not racist' and reserve the 'Ten Rings' for the Shang Chi homosexual, you just wound up with a cool supervillain being skuttled and then the moronic "I AM THE MANDARIN!" line, which fricked AIM in the arse too.
>doesn't belong in this kind of genre
Shane Black is a master of deconstruction.
He exists to annoy stupid people. And smart people love these mocking cliches.
Universal monsters, last action hero, The Predator, Capeshit.
If you don't like Black. You're a fanboy of something stupid.
>deconstruction
Yeah, that's what I'm totally wanting to watch. An iron man movie with 90% of it with no iron man. Genius. Give Shane all the awards possible.
Maybe hand out one to you for being the biggest imbecile on the planet.
>wanting to watch
Most people on earth are stupid.
It doesn't matter what they want.
For stupid people there's avatar, guardians of the galaxy and Zack Snyder.
I've been a big IRON MAN gay since decades before the movies came out. I was dreading the first film thinking they were going to totally frick it up and was impressed at how they managed to compress and update decades of comics even passably, let alone it being 'good'. It definitely has some stupidly rough edges but to get a thumbs up from someone like me was not easy feat.
The only thing I really hated was the ad-lib dialogue from the moron actors. Gweneth Paltrow can shove her 'at least three olives' up her stupid arse. Holy shit why would you let that dumb c**t come up with her own dialogue? Nobody who gets paid to write could put that on paper without blowing their own fricking brains out.
I appreciated all the little Easter Eggs that didn't intrude on the movie for normies, but were that little bit extra for long-time fans. Best of all I love that my lesser-known hero is now a household name, and normies now know who I'm talking about, and why he's so cool.
Having said all that, the second and third movies were really shitty and rubbed me the wrong way pretty bad. They had their moments, like it was great to see Stark and War Machine standing back-to-back going to town with all their weapons, but frick the surrounding dialogue and story mang.
I know exactly what they were trying to do, but it just didn't work for the most part. Like Tony Stark is like fricking MacGyver whether he's in the armour or not, and that's what truly makes him the 'Invincible IRON MAN' and not just another guy in a suit - and nobody can just put on his armour and be anywhere near as formidable.
I wish kinda they stuck with the alcoholism angle instead of the nebulous 'muh PTSD' thing which was the popular bullshit at the time, and a waste they way they showed him drinking all the time prior - like his key scene with Loki. That shit just kinda went to waste.
They tried to be as loosey-goosey as the first one, but should have used that success to pay a good writer.
There's a good movie in there somewhere, but it's not on the screen. It winds up a hodgepodge of ideas that if you piece together and squint you can make yourself think you saw a good film.
It bugs people who know the comics not because of the 'le twist' but because they know what they took from you and how it compares unfavourably to that.
The perfect microcosm of what's wrong with this film is the Gweneth Paltrow shit and the ending. >Mwhahahaha Tony, I'm going to inject your girlfriend with Extremis so she has a good chance of getting superpowers, which she can then use to escape and/or kick my arse! >She might explode, but the audience knows that's never going to happen! >Mwhahahahaha, I'm so clever and evil! >Hey JARVIS active that House Party protocol that gets all my other suits of armour that I didn't use until now, as if they couldn't have dug or blasted their way out of the armoury easily - especially all the one specifically designed for heavy construction and shit >fight fight fight >Paltrow falls in fire because Tony fails to catch her like a loser >audience knows she's not dead >cleverly put armour on bad guy and blow it up >he's still alive >I AM THE MANDARIN! >Extremis Paltrow hits him with a pipe and that does it >wut? >blow up armours even though will be reversed next movie
You didn't see a good movie, maybe their was one before they inserted girl power so Paltrow gets to save Tony, etc. but all the good beats you think are there, just aren't, or they're undermined so they're just stupid.
A stereotypic Fu Manchu supervillain with magic rings is looking like a much better option at that point.
You can see what they were trying to do with Rockwell in the second film, but boy did that ever not work. The comic book Justin Hammer is an old frick who looks and talks suspiciously like Peter Cushing, and I can see why they would feel a need to differentiate him from Stane by making him a young Internet Age gay, but it was a bit like Silicon Valley Lex Luthor and his peach tea. Boring Millenial/Zoomergay shit.
Also they were obviously giving the actors way too much latitude, so it comes off as self-aware horseshit along the lines of Arnie's "Ice to see you" Mr. Freeze, instead of being any kind of serious threat. Like if you can't make the shit with the stupid bird even mildly interesting when you have Sam fricking Rockwell you best be cutting and reshooting some shit.
>Iron Man 1: Iron Man fights another Iron Man >Iron Man 2: Iron Man fights a bunch of Iron Mans >Iron Man 3: Iron Man fights even more Iron Mans
WOW SO GREAT
third one is pure shit >oh no space alien, i am having mental breakdown >oh no, my suits are le bad, i have to destroy them all in a spectacular way >at his point i am fricking macgyver with bare hands fighting skills >did i said i am suicidal because of this purple alien?
Remember when Falcon was introduced in Winter Soldier and he was actually pretty cool, but then the MCU decided that they needed to 'do better'. Same story as Black person Panther. Great introduction, likeable cool character, transformed into another stupid, boring, anti-white mouthpiece.
Except 1, 2 and 3
>Not a single bad movie.
except for 2 and 3
Yeah besides part 2 and 3 the iron man trilogy is perfect
Second is bad. First is okay. Third is good
>Third is good
3 was a dumpster fire. At least 2 had Sam Rockwell hamming it up.
You just didn't get it.
Iron Man 3 is a classic Shane Blake's metahumor and post irony movie. Mocking the capeshit.
He's done it before with action movies or classic Universal monsters.
>He made it shitty on purpose
Ah. So he's the Wimp Lo of directors. Got it.
>classic Shane Blake's metahumor and post irony movie. Mocking the capeshit.
Directors who do that shit can frick right off. Also see
>Sam Rockwell hamming it u
No love for Mickey Rourke's overacting?
To be fair, Rourke said they fricked him and cut a lot of his part out, and I find that credible. They were trying to combine the Crimson Dynamo and Whiplash, which is a stupid concept, and the execution turned out even worse.
>and the execution turned out even worse.
i liked it 🙂
Unironically my favorite phase 1 villain. He was entertaining and that's all I needed.
That's like not knowing what Lex Luthor is supposed to be like and seeing the Jesse Eisenberg version and thinking, "That guy was pretty entertaining". The problem is you don't know what you're missing.
I understand them not wanting to use the Crimson Dynamo after the first movie due to similarities with Stane's Iron Monger suit at the end, (which during production there was some question about who the villain would be and the Dynamo was one possibility). But if you ever learn what you missed out on and what a weaksauce version he is of better villains he's based on, you're going to see how much they took from you.
Even Stane is so much better in the comics it sticks in my craw a bit. The guy's whole schtick is he's a Chessmaster thinks multiple moves ahead and has backup alternate strategies out the arse. Stark can only beat him by dealing with every single one, and is still denied the full satisfaction of victory, not to mention Stane living up to his name so Tony is still trying to deal with his remaing corrupt business bullshit for years after.
Did you see the chessboard in the background on Stane's table that is never used or mentioned? If you read the comics you did, but that's all you got of that aspect of his character, he was just otherwise a ruthless and shrewd businessgay. All the shit with the earpieces and double-crossing the terrorists would have worked so much better if there was a little bit more of the comic book Stane before and after. This was part of him that was filmed but got cut:
?t=10
His death in the comics is better and more memorable but at least this shows they were trying to do something with him that far into production.
He was fun, but that scene in particular was pretty dumb. He survives getting hit by a car and punched by iron man multiple times.
He didn't even wear a suit, he just had whippy things. His bones should have been pulverized.
second is good. third is bad. first is goated.
>Can't have a bad movie when all 3 are trash.
9000 IQ move, OP. Well played
Yeah you can. The three trash movies would fall under “bad”
don't listen to them. I like all 3
1 is solid and can stand on its own as a real movie
2 has really dumb writing, but at least has cool action scenes
3 is a mess writing wise and the suits are suddenly all made of paper mache. Also the conclusion of the movie is instantly retconned in the next cross-over movie.
>Also the conclusion of the movie is instantly retconned in the next cross-over movie.
What was retconned?
I always found Stark getting surgery to remove to the shrapnel at the end of 3 stupid since it was the entire basis of 2
The whole conclusion of the movie is that he has to be Tony Stark, who is not reliant on his suits, and give up on being Iron Man. He removes the shrapnel and the reactor for his chest and destroys all the suits.
Then next movie it's all shrugged off and he is back to being regular old Iron Man. Makes the entire third movie pointless.
Iron Man 2 is my favorite MCU movie
2 is probably the worst. There's not a lot of good things it has going for it. Villains are trash. Even the quips aren't as funny.
However, Scarlett Johanson in a catsuit.
What a trilogy.
2 and 3 are underwhelming
Iron Man is an interesting case, because you can clearly see the effect of the MCU felt most clearly.
Iron Man 1 is a movie that Disney would not make. It has Tony bring a bunch of strippers serve as flight attendants on his private jet. It's relatively down to earth, set is "Afghanistan" and fighting "Afghanistan terrorists" which is just one-step removed from reality. It was pretty gritty, some of the shots in those movies would not be put in a Marvel movie these days. Tony takes headshots with bullets, he shoots to kill, he murders people visibly on screen, like 12 at a time. You see men with actual guns, assault rifles that you can see in real life.
Iron Man 2 started as a sequel to the original Iron Man, mostly down to earth with a tone consistent with the original, but then you clearly see the MCU taking over about halfway through. The movie that Favreau wanted to make was tossed out and they wanted to shoehorn in MCU characters to establish them in the narrative. Still, the movie is 75% original MCU and 25% Disney MC.
Iron Man 3 was a full product of the modern MCU. Tony doesn't use guns to murder people, he mostly blows them away to disable or disarm them. Heavily leans on the comedy, very shlocky and silly all things considered. The plot is several layers removed from reality, it's almost entirely in its own fictional universe. Safe and clean, very little blood or grit.
Totally agree.
The best MCU movies are IronMan and WinterSoldier because of their grounding.
The totality of Stark's coolness (MCU's coolest character) originates from the first 30minutes of the first MCU movie, where he fricks strippers and mudslimes.
good summary
good one
captain america has the merit of having three good movies. civil war is a universe done right because it has weight if you saw the prior movies
The only canon MCU movies are :
a. Thor 1
b.c. IronMan 1,2
d. Captain America 1
e. Avengers 1
f. Captain America 2
g. Avengers 2
h. Civil War
i. Black Panther
j. Infinity War
10 , perfect number
>homie panter
Dropped
I am not saying BP was good, or that I tolerate watching Black folk on my screen, but Infinity War took place in Wakanda.
The two homie pantha movies are the only mcu movies I haven’t seen (and the ones after endgame of course because frick disney)
The real tragedy of Black person Pather was that character was actually cool until he got his own movie. I loved him in Civil War and his interaction with Zemo. Was really thinking they were going to make a great and noble Black person character. But then you see Wakanda, which is like seeing Zion in the Matrix instead of just hearing about it, what a fricking joke. He could have survived his own first meh film, (if you'll pardon the pun), but by then these morons were just going full anti-white male and diversity shit, so the character ironically never had a snowball's chance in chance in Hell going forward.
I remember being awfully disappointed at avengers 2 for how inconsequential it felt. Guess compared to today it has the merit of being just average... Good list , I dare add gardians of the galaxy because they are funny on their own
This is not a quality list.
I intentionally left out some movies because they work better as surprises e.g. Hulk in Avengers 1, GiantMan in Civil War, the Guardians....wait.....SHIT they are way too canon! That's where we meet Thanos and the Collector explains the nature of the Inf.Stones !... frick frick
ok
Guardians are in, and Black Panthera is out I guess ? or just add Endgame (yuck) to make it a nice list of 12 movies.
ok new list
The only canon MCU movies are :
a. Thor 1
b.c. IronMan 1,2
d. Captain America 1
e. Avengers 1
f. Captain America 2
g. Avengers 2
h. Civil War
i. Black Panther
j. Guardians of the Galaxy
k. Infinity War
L. Endgame
10 , perfect number
I detect a slight bit of autism in you, do you per chance only put your volume at an even number
you don't?
I do and am weird
The Captain America films had the best throughline in the MCU, varying from serviceable to excellent, and the later one retrospectively made the prior ones better.
Evans was pitch perfect. Didn't like the Peggy actress though which kind of undermined it a little.
PROTIP: Ultron gets better the more you watch it. Underrated.
I hated it at first, because it's very jarring how quickly it rushes through shit like
>create Vision
>hey guys I'm Vision
>two seconds later
>hey you're an Avenger now let's go fight Ultron
>okay
It's extremely rushed, but it's all there if you pay attention. Like if you just assume everyone is quick on the uptake, a bunch of geniuses who think two steps ahead and communicate in shorthand, (and to be fair there is not shortage of those in the Avengers), then it all makes some kind of sense.
It's not a good way to for them to have done it, to jam everything in that tight, but I kinda understand why, and once you've seen it and you know what's coming that gives you the information you need to catch up and stay with it.
You'll notice another effect that you can compare to the 90's Batman films too.
>First movie, no "serious actor" wants to be in superhero shit. Comic books are for kids? I'm a THESPIAN!!! I played Richard the Third. I wont dirty my hands being in THOSE kinds of movies.
>Get some washed up, unknown, or actor just looking for a paycheque and stick him in the role, some director nobody really cares about because it's all considered risky anyway.
>Succeeds.
>Breeds more success, draws more money and higher budgets.
>Suddenly even homosexual actor in Hollywood wants into the superhero money trough and popularity, also directors, etc.
>Start using their Hollywood clout to get in and start changing shit to what they think capeshit should be about.
>Whole thing becomes a big self-aware shitfest full of Libshit actor politics and perceptions about what comic heroes are.
>"Ice to see you".
>When you hear every homosexual actor saying "I did it for my kids" in interviews that's when it's pretty well fricked.
Based high effort poster. My brother and I saw Iron Man in theaters expecting nothing and being blown away.
Absolutely this. First Iron Man has more in common with Nolan's Batman trilogy, tonally, than any of the following MCU movies. There's a difference between action movies, who just happen to have comic book characters, like Nolanman and Iron Man (2008) and full-on capeshit like the MCU and DCEU.
Based. Been saying this always. Iron man 2 is straight kino. Idk if people forget he straight out synthesisizes a whole new element into existence. Actually badass
>he straight out synthesisizes a whole new element into existence
That's not as hard as it sounds, anon.
See this periodic table? All the purple elements were made in basically the same way. Basically anyone who has access to a particle accelerator can make new elements.
The heavier ones usually aren't stable though. Not that Iron Man 2 cared much about being scientifically accurate.
Why haven't we made more elements wtf. Still cool to see Iron Man do something science related.
>series that grossed billions is somehow underrated
capeshitters need to be culled
Except it's not a real trilogy because you have to watch the other marvel movies for 3 to make any sense
Thanks for highlighting what actually sucks about the MCU. Just reading comics isn't enough, you have to watch 1000+ shows and movies to even understand what the frick is going on, even for characters you don't give a shit about.
>introduce the most based villain in the series
>it's a fake-out
Nah, Iron Man 3 was trash.
I fricking despise directors who do stuff like that. "Hehehe, I really subverted your expectations, didn't I? Aren't I clever?" It's just tiresome and doesn't belong in this kind of genre film.
>I fricking despise directors who do stuff like that. "Hehehe, I really subverted your expectations, didn't I? Aren't I clever?"
I notice it's because they have nothing interesting to say. Nothing that would justify the seriousness. I think that's what they feel. It's a way to avoid ridicule that someone like Nolan gets because he's sincere even with the most ridiculous of concepts.
3 had little iron man in it until the end.
most of it was tony
There was nothing wrong with that in principle. Stark has been without his armour in the comics, or pared-down versions, but again the execution kinda sucked, and adding the kid was just fricking moronic.
Again I know what they were TRYING to do, and maybe it could have even worked with Kingsley if that scene wasn't so silly and off-putting.
But basically since it was all a result of them tripping over themselves to be 'not racist' and reserve the 'Ten Rings' for the Shang Chi homosexual, you just wound up with a cool supervillain being skuttled and then the moronic "I AM THE MANDARIN!" line, which fricked AIM in the arse too.
>doesn't belong in this kind of genre
Shane Black is a master of deconstruction.
He exists to annoy stupid people. And smart people love these mocking cliches.
Universal monsters, last action hero, The Predator, Capeshit.
If you don't like Black. You're a fanboy of something stupid.
>deconstruction
Yeah, that's what I'm totally wanting to watch. An iron man movie with 90% of it with no iron man. Genius. Give Shane all the awards possible.
Maybe hand out one to you for being the biggest imbecile on the planet.
>wanting to watch
Most people on earth are stupid.
It doesn't matter what they want.
For stupid people there's avatar, guardians of the galaxy and Zack Snyder.
I've been a big IRON MAN gay since decades before the movies came out. I was dreading the first film thinking they were going to totally frick it up and was impressed at how they managed to compress and update decades of comics even passably, let alone it being 'good'. It definitely has some stupidly rough edges but to get a thumbs up from someone like me was not easy feat.
The only thing I really hated was the ad-lib dialogue from the moron actors. Gweneth Paltrow can shove her 'at least three olives' up her stupid arse. Holy shit why would you let that dumb c**t come up with her own dialogue? Nobody who gets paid to write could put that on paper without blowing their own fricking brains out.
I appreciated all the little Easter Eggs that didn't intrude on the movie for normies, but were that little bit extra for long-time fans. Best of all I love that my lesser-known hero is now a household name, and normies now know who I'm talking about, and why he's so cool.
Having said all that, the second and third movies were really shitty and rubbed me the wrong way pretty bad. They had their moments, like it was great to see Stark and War Machine standing back-to-back going to town with all their weapons, but frick the surrounding dialogue and story mang.
I know exactly what they were trying to do, but it just didn't work for the most part. Like Tony Stark is like fricking MacGyver whether he's in the armour or not, and that's what truly makes him the 'Invincible IRON MAN' and not just another guy in a suit - and nobody can just put on his armour and be anywhere near as formidable.
I wish kinda they stuck with the alcoholism angle instead of the nebulous 'muh PTSD' thing which was the popular bullshit at the time, and a waste they way they showed him drinking all the time prior - like his key scene with Loki. That shit just kinda went to waste.
They tried to be as loosey-goosey as the first one, but should have used that success to pay a good writer.
>dude quip quip quip quip quip quip quip: the character
Into the trasherino it belongerinos.
Iron Man 3 was so bad I thought mcu was basically over . People weren’t going to keep watching this trash
Turns out they would
Idk why Americans dislike Iron Man 3, an ~~*American*~~ turning out to be the villain instead of an Arab is about as redpilled as it gets.
There's a good movie in there somewhere, but it's not on the screen. It winds up a hodgepodge of ideas that if you piece together and squint you can make yourself think you saw a good film.
It bugs people who know the comics not because of the 'le twist' but because they know what they took from you and how it compares unfavourably to that.
The perfect microcosm of what's wrong with this film is the Gweneth Paltrow shit and the ending.
>Mwhahahaha Tony, I'm going to inject your girlfriend with Extremis so she has a good chance of getting superpowers, which she can then use to escape and/or kick my arse!
>She might explode, but the audience knows that's never going to happen!
>Mwhahahahaha, I'm so clever and evil!
>Hey JARVIS active that House Party protocol that gets all my other suits of armour that I didn't use until now, as if they couldn't have dug or blasted their way out of the armoury easily - especially all the one specifically designed for heavy construction and shit
>fight fight fight
>Paltrow falls in fire because Tony fails to catch her like a loser
>audience knows she's not dead
>cleverly put armour on bad guy and blow it up
>he's still alive
>I AM THE MANDARIN!
>Extremis Paltrow hits him with a pipe and that does it
>wut?
>blow up armours even though will be reversed next movie
You didn't see a good movie, maybe their was one before they inserted girl power so Paltrow gets to save Tony, etc. but all the good beats you think are there, just aren't, or they're undermined so they're just stupid.
A stereotypic Fu Manchu supervillain with magic rings is looking like a much better option at that point.
You can see what they were trying to do with Rockwell in the second film, but boy did that ever not work. The comic book Justin Hammer is an old frick who looks and talks suspiciously like Peter Cushing, and I can see why they would feel a need to differentiate him from Stane by making him a young Internet Age gay, but it was a bit like Silicon Valley Lex Luthor and his peach tea. Boring Millenial/Zoomergay shit.
Also they were obviously giving the actors way too much latitude, so it comes off as self-aware horseshit along the lines of Arnie's "Ice to see you" Mr. Freeze, instead of being any kind of serious threat. Like if you can't make the shit with the stupid bird even mildly interesting when you have Sam fricking Rockwell you best be cutting and reshooting some shit.
1st was LUDO
2nd WAS KINO
3rd was CERTIFIED LUDOKINO
Iron Man 1 was so good it started off the whole Marvel craze for 10 odd years.
>Iron Man 1: Iron Man fights another Iron Man
>Iron Man 2: Iron Man fights a bunch of Iron Mans
>Iron Man 3: Iron Man fights even more Iron Mans
WOW SO GREAT
In the third one he fights a bunch of dragon dudes. Get it straight.
third one is pure shit
>oh no space alien, i am having mental breakdown
>oh no, my suits are le bad, i have to destroy them all in a spectacular way
>at his point i am fricking macgyver with bare hands fighting skills
>did i said i am suicidal because of this purple alien?
The only good MCU trilogy are the Captain America movies, with it peaking at Winter Soldier which is the best of the entire franchise.
>Captain America movies
Those are shit except for Winter Soldier and that one basically a cross-over movie.
Remember when Falcon was introduced in Winter Soldier and he was actually pretty cool, but then the MCU decided that they needed to 'do better'. Same story as Black person Panther. Great introduction, likeable cool character, transformed into another stupid, boring, anti-white mouthpiece.
2 shit movies and one decent and best. The only good MCU movie is Winter Soldier. Everything else is pure trash