Look at this dialogue:
>Persian emmisary: Your WOMEN will be slaves. Your sons your daughters, your elders will be slaves! But not you. By noon this day, you will all be dead men! A thousand nations of the Persian Empire descend upon you. Our arrows will blot out the sun!
You would expect it from Almanzor, Alqama, Mehmed II, Ali Pasha, Saladin, Tamerlane, prophet Muhammad, Muhammad al-Nasir, Khan Mamai, etc.
But not from Pagan indo-iranian Persians.
whos gonna tell him
tell him what?
300 is based on real historic events and muslims have always been war-hungry savages blinded by their pedo prophet. Still more based than atheists though. At least muslims don't stuff bananas up their ass and then act all righteous about it.
This was 1000 years before Islam
Persians were Zoroastrian
>Persians were Zoroastrian
They were the same type ooga booga morons BTFO by the west
This is basically how Xi deals with Western figures
what?
Is was based on a comic book, so they needed evil bad guys, even if it's not historically accurate. Also it came out right in the middle of the GWOT so brown people from the middle east bad
The behavior of civilized Indo-Iranic white humanistic Persians in the film is the same of Muslims in Spain, Russia and Balkans, not very Persian-like.
Why are the Persians depicted as sub Saharan Africans in this film?
They look arabic
The Achaemenid Empire actually ruled parts of modern Egypt and Libya so it's not entirely inaccurate
>they ruled parts of NORTH Africa so it's okay to portray them all as Black folk
USA USA USA
They do look North african and persians aren't that different from nafris
It is you who would expect it from Muslims, you are projecting. It is like saying "there is high crime in Detroit" and a bluehair starts screeching "WHY DO YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE".
>is a movie set 900 years before the birth of Muhammad Islamophobic?
The movie itself was clearly made after the birth of Muhammad
>how could it be islamophobic?
You could interpret 300 to be an allegorical struggle between the "civilized" West and the "barbaric" Islamic world as
points out in his second sentence
That's what OP seems to be doing
It's set in 480 BC, Muhammad wasn't born until 570 AD. And I was wrong, it's not a 900 year gap, it's over a thousand years.
>You could interpret 300 to be an allegorical struggle between the "civilized" West and the "barbaric" Islamic world
The conflict between East and West predates Islam by several millennia. If anything, you should be saying that the conflict between Muslims and Christians is a continuation of the conflict between between Achaemenids and the Greeks (Western Europe tracing much of its ideological lineage to Ancient Greece)
>How can The Crucible be about McCarthyism when it takes place in the 17th century?
islam didn't even exist at that time
how could it be islamophobic?
It depictes something that happened before Pislam, it's anti Persian or anti Indo-Iranian. Typical Germanix revisionism.
This is the only part of that movie that really irks me. They got so much right, from the "arrows blot out the sun", to the blind guy, to the emissaries getting thrown down wells... but they made Xerxes a troony. Why?
I think it's definitely intended to speak to the anti-Islam sentiment that has dominated the East/West culture war for like one and half thousand years. After that long, hating/fearing brown Asians and hating Muslims kind of blur, and to hell with anachronisms. The movie even goes on about how (King) Leonidas is fighting to preserve democracy in the Hellenic world, champion freedom, and prevent slavery, without any useful context about what democracy meant at that time or Sparta's particular institutions. It's a blatant and frankly sad appeal to the contemporary.
Miller himself was definitely into cathartic release in re kicking the shit out of belligerent Islamists. I don't think any of his work or adaptations thereof were really mean to be taken very seriously, but I think Miller's disgust for certain things shines through as real enough. It's why it's communicated so viscerally.
>but they made Xerxes a troony. Why?
Historically, Hellenes tended to denigrate rivals and enemies from the East as being especially womanly and effeminate. Herodotus mentions the curse of Aphrodite and a warm, moist climate as being b***h-tittifying feminizing vectors afflicting males of the oriental societies. As for Xerxes, I think it was really just a case of making him a weirdly androgynous brown goa'uld god-queen-king to play up the foreignness, the opulence and decadence of the master caste in the alien culture, and drive home how absolute monarchy (and the East) is gay. (As for the overwhelming gayness of the movie overall, a thoughtlessly shoehorned gratuitous sex scene was their insurance upon realizing they had made a film about greased up beefcakes wearing leather panties, capes and v. fashionable sandals to sell to the American public.)
>they made Xerses a troony
At least he's more fit than this homunculus
>Typical Germanix revisionism.
this movie is an adaption of a comic book by an american larper and should not be used as reference for actual depictions of figures or events in history
Persia was actually a israeli Empire. They're responsible for the rise of Judaism after the Bronze Age Collapse.
They created Islam too. Their Jinn Magi were behind all these talking burning bushes.
I thought the Severan Dynasty laid the bedrock of Islam? Did the fall of Palmyra kickstart Persian influence? How do the israelites fit in here?
The bedrock of Islam are the Quran & Hadiths and both were written in 800CE in Shia Iraq where the Persians ran the House of Wisdom.
They influenced Christianity too thr Mithraism.
Wait the magi made all the burning bushes in Abrahamic lore? Please explain
The movie was funded to push themes that encouraged support of Middle east adventures with Dubya junior.
But, they made it too based so it has become a white bodybuilder groyper classic.
Islam is islamophobic by default
It's not about Islam.
Who wouldn't want to enslave a civilization they have conquered?
Browns and whites were doing this against each others for centuries.
It's basic caveman logic without the mental gymnastics of humanists.
It's the most accurate depiction of steppe "civilizations" like those of Iranians, actually.
> sex obsessed culture. Darius I was definitely a metrosexual with a woman's demeanor. all persian kings were, they learned this behavior from their Scythian forebearers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enaree
> no social mobility. their administrators and generals are from the same tent. they are not educated
> laughable soldiers. the iraniX killed off the professional soldiers that served babylonians and assyrians. so all they had was rabble and beasts
It's got nothing to do with Muslims.
No but it was anti brown people from the middle east
>now you're remembered as the bad guys
kys Ali Ardashir the Persians were the bad guys
Good and bad wouldn't even exist without Persian theological contributions.
>Good and bad wouldn't even exist without Persian theological contributions.
Pajeet tier claims.
Indians were immensely influential theologically too. Only low IQ morons insult Indian cultural legacy also.
Kys, you garbage pseud homosexual. I'd bring back scaphism for you, race baiting garbage daeva.
>Kys, you garbage pseud homosexual. I'd bring back scaphism for you, race baiting garbage daeva.
lmao the fricking buddhist schizo
Lol, India were pumping out 40% of global GDP for most of written history. Hope you enjoy maths, too.
>India were pumping out 40% of global GDP
another pajeet larp. GDP before the modern era
Ancient Sumer was formed from Indian refugees escaping the great flood.
What you know of 'civilizatoin' is from the Indus Valley. The basis of every single part of your culture, language, technology and religion is Indian.
It's ok to admit it. Things change. But there's only 3 powers on this Earth:
>Indian (inc. European Peninsula)
>China (inc. Pacific Islands)
>MesoAmerica (inc. Arctic, Siberia and Antarctic)
>Ancient Sumer was formed from Indian refugees
kek
Study harder, homosexual.
dumb pajeet no one will fall for your bs
I'd say "The West" is a modern power on Earth. That is, it's kind of like the new kid on the block. It's hard to pretend the last few centuries weren't absolutely lit thanks to Whitey's "The West"
India -> Sumer -> Babylon -> Assyria -> Carthage -> Greece -> Rome -> Germany -> England -> USA.
The west is just an extension of Indian values.It's like a wave in the ocean, the greater the fetch, the more powerful the surf. It just so happened that Indian ideas had a further stretch of land to iterate over.
Is this what poojeet we wuzing looks like?
And what has india done since 40000 bc? Other than getting buck broken by steppenigs and whitey, of course
>Germany
Well, why do you think Hitler used Indian imagery in the building of his empire? He knew that his culture was born out of India, and wanted to bring it to the next level.
Holy cope jfc can we range ban turdies already?
Unironically true in a religious context, good or evil. Neech talked about this thoroughly. Idk why more westerners don't take much interest in Zoroastrian and Persian history, it's fascinating to me.
holy kino
this is what the middle east needs right now
Persians aren't brown and they're not remembered as "the bad guy". The "bad guy" of ME history is the Assyrians.
Persians have the same steppe gypsy origin as whites. American white trash hating them for being tan doesn't change the facts of their origin.
They're not natives of the country they inhabit.
> most progressive ancient civilizations
Iranic takeover of Near East saw social mobility disappear. No longer were hard working commoners able to forge a great future, instead if you weren't from the same tent as the sheepfricking crossdressing Shah, you were just a serf or a trader. A "slave state of pedophiles" is a great way to describe Sassanids.
>one of the most progressive ancient civilisations
Look up proskynesis
Honestly, Iran should just become Zoroastrian, bring back torture methods like scaphism, and start slaughtering everything Westward of it, just depopulate everything West of Iran. I prefer Indians and Chinese over both Arabs and Europeans in all honesty.
>bring back torture methods like scaphism
It wasn't a real thing, the Greeks made it up as black-propaganda
I know.
That doesn't mean that someone hasn't died using that method at least somewhere
What shia islam does to a homie
Persia is kino
lmao pajeets cant stop wewuzzing
nobody wants to be indian
You might think it's bait, but some of the lowest castes of Indians actually do this. Take a gander:
https://www.jatland.com/home/
If your culture is white or has IE origin, there's a page on here where they claim your people as a tribe of jatts.
However, if you are of semitic origin, they will refuse to claim you.
https://www.jatland.com/home/Assyria
If you aren't a pinkie larping as a brown semitic person in 2024, you are playing a losing game.
>Only one person in the thread is talking about the insane time disparity between the birth of Islam and the events of 300
Jesus Christ this really is the most moronic board, isn’t it?
>verification not required
Islam is a hybrid of Nabataen belief, Severan dynasty Rome, Palmyra/Emesa and israeli theology, overlaid on Persian folklore and culture.
It existed, but just wasn't pieced together in its final form.
It did not exist, nor was it being pieced together. The Achaemenid Empire didn’t even stretch to Mecca where Islam originated. I have no idea how anyone could be genuinely making the argument you’re making unless you’re a Muslim Iranian who hates the native Persian Zoroastrians and are pushing this forward to take them out of history.
Zoroastrians are just Mithraists larping as Romans up in the north.
Iranian culture has always drifted towards Islam. Read up on the Roman/Persian border; the priest kings of Emesa, the Black Stone, the beliefs of Julia Domna and her obsession with Apollonius of Tyana.
Zoroastrian preceded that
>Airplanes existed before the Wright brothers because we had wood, canvas, and engines
>verification not required
>Boo hoo why did they make them so cruel
History is fricking cruel you stupid c**t
Slaves were common as pedestry back then. Every empire during that time from the Greeks to the Persians to Chinese practiced slavery especially after winning
This was literally the historical norm
>Leonidas I (/liˈɒnJdəs, -dæs/; Greek: Λεωνίδας; died 11 August 480 BC) was a king of the Greek city-state of Sparta,
>In 622 ce, when the Prophet migrated to Medina, his preaching was soon accepted, and the community-state of Islam emerged.
>You would expect it from Almanzor, Alqama, Mehmed II, Ali Pasha, Saladin, Tamerlane, prophet Muhammad, Muhammad al-Nasir, Khan Mamai, etc.
OP you are the islamophobe here
Spartans/Greeks = Americans
Persians = Iraqis/Afghans
ironic that the achameneids were one of the few who did not have slaves.
Islam didn’t exist yet moron