Is a softer Superman the answer?

Tom Taylor, writer of Superman: Son of Kal-El described Jon Kent in an interview recently:

>”We somehow managed to keep people engaged without actually having Jon punch anyone for six issues. I think that’s really important as well. So we have a young bi guy who also is just the sweetest, most empathetic nurturing guy who doesn’t wanna hurt anyone. And I think that’s far more heroic than somebody punching a supervillain in the face.”

Is this the start of a new trend of a kindler, gentler superhero that finally addresses the rampant toxic masculinity in the comic industry? Personally I think that Superman needs to adapt with the times, and I can’t think of a better role model for 21st century American boys to look up to. What about you Cinemaphile?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You've overplayed your hand and I'm no longer trolled by this. You posted it too much and burned it out. Better luck on the next one.

      How is this bait or trolling? This is a legitimate question about what masculinity should be defined as in our post modern society, and whether this shift we are seeing is going to catch on. Surely you guys must have noticed this sort of thing with the rise in popularity of Kpop idols, etc.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This is trolling because you posted a Devin Grayson comic as your image and not a Tom Taylor comic.

        Try again troll.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      thank you based anon, I was planning on responding to OP
      Come check out this cool thread

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  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You've overplayed your hand and I'm no longer trolled by this. You posted it too much and burned it out. Better luck on the next one.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Tom Taylor, writer of Superman: Son of Kal-El described Jon Kent in an interview recently:

    ”We somehow managed to keep people engaged without actually having Jon punch anyone for six issues. I think that’s really important as well. So we have a young homosexual who also is just the gaygiest, most gaypathetic gayturing guy who doesn’t wanna frick a woman. And I think that’s way gaygier than somebody punching a supervillain in the face.”

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is now Raul's thread
    Everyone say hi to him

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      hi raul

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yello raul.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's so much representation on his cape that it just looks like a quilt. Also Jons homosexual haircut is more insulting than him actually being gay.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It fits his zoomer ass fr fr no cap

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >bi
    If the gay shit fails, they’re gonna hook up Jon with a chick next?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they? It’s not like it’s going to erase the fact that he’s lame as hell.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >they’re gonna hook up Jon with a chick next?
      Everyone only knows him as Gay Superman because of how of an effort they made to show off his gay boyfriend.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t it. If this doesn’t work out for them they’ll erase his from existence. DC would rather destroy everything then admit they were wrong.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      jon is 100% gay now. they would piss off the lgbt crowd if his relationship with the pink hair twink fails.
      if they wanted jon to be bi, he would have been in a poly relationship dating a chick and guy at the same time.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody’s complained about Constantine, Catwoman, and Wonder Woman all having straight romances after being outed as bisexual.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody complained about Constantine because he’s a disgusting pervert like real life bisexuals. As for WW and Catwoman; they’re not in straight relationships they’re not straight to begin with.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This happens after Catwomanwas outed as bi

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Cool, not a straight relationship because otherwise she would have been straight.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >they’re not in straight relationships they’re not straight to begin with.
            >Catwoman
            >Constantly depicted in several stories before and after being bi to love Batman and males
            >Wonder Woman
            >Constantly depicted in several stories before and after being "bi" to love Steve Trevor and several males
            >Only shown to like same sex to remind audience that their bi
            Kek

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It’s almost like them being bi was pulled out of their asses.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Constantine
            Europeans are all kinda gay.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          because DC never gave out a big press release of them being in a gay relationship

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If someone who is bisexual is in a relationship with a heterosexual person, that romance is not straight because one partner is not straight.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      lmao no, Jon can't ever be with a girl again, that would be gay erasure.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Had high hopes for Jon....... And then Bendis ruined him. And Taylor surpasses it.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You know what you make this the most perfect pride month ever? If Clark and Lois both realize that they’re actually gay and it was their sons courage in coming out that finally let them admit it to themselves. Then Lois begins a relationship with Supergirl and Clark starts a relationship with his son. We can teach the world that incest should also be added onto the LGBTQCIA flag.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Serious question: given that the LGBT is not very monogamous like straight people, how would Clark handle Jon being in an open relationship?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The big irony is LGBT despise consensual incest.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Joe Casey achieved the same thing and didn't have to resort to having a homosexualy ass little b***h Superman to make it happen. Pacifist Supes isn't a new concept, but I guess Twink Pacifist Supes sells butter.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >but I guess Twink Pacifist Supes sells butter.
      It actually doesn't.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >without actually having Jon punch anyone for six issues
    This is not capeshit. Stop the talking heads.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We somehow managed to keep people engaged without actually having Jon punch anyone for six issues.

    O, Tom...Twitter engagement is meaningless if the gays you pander to don't buy it and there not.

    >Is this the start of a new trend of a kindler, gentler superhero that finally addresses the rampant toxic masculinity in the comic industry? Personally I think that Superman needs to adapt with the times, and I can’t think of a better role model for 21st century American boys to look up to. What about you Cinemaphile?

    This statement alone makes me realize what a shitty troll this is.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it has always been about a line of tolerance
    from the very start, with Gilgamesh. The hero can, and has, 'forgiven' and befriended enemies since the start of the concept of the hero. Redemption OF the hero and the villain has always been a story telling alchemy humans have been obsessed with since probably before civilization told in epic songs for hundreds of years before being carved into clay tablets.
    The hero is a model for how the powerful in human society SHOULD behave, and this is expressed through examples of what to do and what not to do in various (often metaphoric or dream-like) scenarios. You can think of the hero as an effective story paradigm that humans have felt connected to due to their own inner dread of 'radical freedom' as well as their needs for self actualization.
    Another thing to realize is that the great heroes of myths were NOT ALWAYS MEN, some of the most important were women (Innana, Artemes, Athena, Freya...) or androgynes like Enlil/Ninlil, Cybelle and Attis, etc. Sometimes ancestral, mythic heroes and men AND their wives (Jacob & Rachel, Odysseus and Penelope).
    A hero can be a man, a woman, a child, an androgynous human, an animal, a couple, a force of nature or a ghost or ANYTHING. But what do they have in common?
    Heroes are symbols of the self that overcome their own fears somehow, by brute strength, by trickery or clever ingenuity, by any means (anti-hero) or by forming relationships (such as Twilight and similar stories). All of that is valid.
    What isn't a hero? Someone who has no fricking conflicts, no enemy, no real goals, no ambitions, and blindly 'represents' a faddish and incongruent political ideology that only superficially comprehends buzzwords like 'toxic masculinity' they glean from idiotic self righteous woke scold journalists.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >What isn't a hero? Someone who has no fricking conflicts, no enemy, no real goals, no ambitions, and blindly 'represents' a faddish and incongruent political ideology that only superficially comprehends buzzwords like 'toxic masculinity' they glean from idiotic self righteous woke scold journalists.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i hope you write comics

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    no and if i was a young woman i would decline any drinks offered by mister tailor

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Taylor is full of fricking shit, Superman has long been defined by his kindness and his attempts to see and empower those that society has forgotten about.
    >captcha: KANNA

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have the pic where Black Adam call Jon a homosexual

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Classic Adam

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Does anyone have the pic where Black Adam call Jon a homosexual

        Is this fricking real?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah. Right on the heels of Jon’s first pride parade too lmao

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, you fricking idiot. It’s bunch of homophobes jerking off to an edited panel because the people who can’t handle Jon being bisexual have to keep making homophobic image macros to cope.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There’s nothing cool about being gay or bisexual my dude.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Ask your dad how he feels about your degenerate lifestyle the next time you want to label everyone here as homophobes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kek thanks

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Top kek

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    remember what they never gave you

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The book is not selling well no matter how much Taylor and his shills are trying to make you believe it is.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    NO. Frick that twink shit.
    Give us bara Superman, dammit!

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jon should've frick his mom instead of pink hair.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I want little Jon back!!! But it’s far too late…

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I lived long enough to see people accuse Clark Kent of toxic masculinity. The land of burgers is a joke and the people living there is the punchline.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Feel bad for dc/marvel fans. Companies always hiring people that clearly don't want to write superhero comics

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They really dont want to write adventure serials or action comics, I think. Too much focus on talking, social justice, wokeness, etc. I'm trying to escape into fiction here, I wanna read about fiction, science fiction, action, cool shit.

      Aint no one finna read about Wokeman and his Woke Adventures.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Superman has LONG been the softest, kindest, gentlest of Superheroes out there. I can tell he doesnt read comics.

    Superman has tons of issues of him just talking to people, visiting US landmarks with his son and taking every precaution to not hurt people.

    If you want to address toxic masculinity, go address Batman. He's literally a cult leader leading other men to beat up people and break the law, and train other people to break the law.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >No punching
    How will he fight fascists, with picket signs and poems?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      (Checked)
      with the power of gay

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