>actually pretty good
Sounds like it, or at the very least they'll get religated to AI trainers untill AI starts to train itself.
The laws around AI stuff are still being fleshed out so it isn't certain but personally I'd recon that if an AI is mimicking someone else's voice then legally whoever makes a product with it will have to pay royalties to the VA the AI was trained off. Meaning, VAs would still exist but they'd have to do considerably less work for an ultimately cheaper and less genuine product. Plus it might lead to a reduction in the variety of voices you hear, there would be little reason to hire fresh blood if you can keep paying the old guys more and more money while you use their AI voice.
Overall once again we see how AI doesn't managed to have a significant benefit to regular people outside of making porn and memes.
This is a short-sighted, Luddite way of thinking about this.
>ultimately cheaper and less genuine product
You are already behind on this topic. Current voice gen uses existing speech as a base and converts it into a different voice with the exact same intonation, the "genuineness" is preserved as far as the AI can mimic the tones, which can already be achieved with effort and in the near future will be done automatically.
Any production which uses this technology can now burst open their prospective actors, because they will no longer require one voice to match one tone or delivery, but one person to provide the voice and another to provide the tone. One toner could theoretically be shared among a wide range of roles and would be doing the bulk of the work, while the voice simply provides a sample to adjust the toner's audio to.
>Plus it might lead to a reduction in the variety of voices you hear
This could actually exponentially explode the variety of voices the consumer hears, because casting will no longer be limited to professional voice actors to provide the voice. They would need only a few tone experts and everything else could be provided by anyone the team wants.
Anyone standing in the way of this technology is a selfish fool. There is no artistic merit to its limitation.
I really don't care if it's revolutionary or whatever you're trying to shill it as, Nor did I ever say I am "standing in the way" of it. I just think the voices that the AI is trained off of will deserve royalties for it and I think the law will come to the same conclusion. So VAs will still get paid, just not for working anymore. Which in my opinion sucks.
First, the law does not dictate what an artist is deserved for their art. That's a matter of contract.
Second, why do you give a shit about VA's?
>Second, why do you give a shit about VA's?
Because they are people, with a trained skill that requires effort and practice getting replaced by automation. Are you really wondering why I, a human would have empathy for my fellow human beings? Are YOU an AI?
Honestly we've had countless Sci Fi stories about how we shouldn't give away so much stuff to automation, and yet we still do it. Some people who claim to be intelligent because they are into the "latest technology" are some of the stupidest people on the planet.
>Honestly we've had countless Sci Fi stories about how we shouldn't give away so much stuff to automation, and yet we still do it
Not that anon, but VAs are annoying on twitter so I am fine with replacing them. Would any of them care if your job got replaced with AI? You, individually, or any other consumer. Then why should we? Might as well enjoy the ride down for a year or two before I am automated too.
>Not that anon, but VAs are annoying on twitter
What, you mean like the small group of VAs from California? What about all the VAs from literally everywhere else in the world? It's stupid to spite a whole line of work just because of some annoying people on twitter of all places. You know what the solution to annoying people on twitter is? Not using Twitter, it works wonders.
>Would any of them care if your job got replaced with AI? You, individually, or any other consumer.
Yes? They aren't techbros they are normal people at the end of the day and the majority of them probably share the same general empathy of not wanting skilled people put out of a job.
The only people who actually like this are techbros who feel like they are playing god, rich people who wish slave labor was still a widespread thing but hey automation is the next best thing, and wannabe techbros who end up as bootlickers making AI shill threads on Mongolian basket weaving forums.
>What, you mean like the small group of VAs from California?
I mean just about every VA I have ever seen. For all I know, maybe Hungarian VAs are actually nice people, and this genuinely sucks for those hypothetical people, but given that there is no actually stopping this technology I am going to enjoy the schadenfreude.
They and writers, as people with Correct Opinions, were part of the original Learn To Code anti-blue collar thing, and take every single moment they can to shit on consumers. They did so because they thought they were irreplacable. Along comes a technology that can replace them, and give consumers what they want but have been consistently attacked for? Good. May the AI models become accessible to everyone with a PC, so we can get basic things like "character development" and "characters who sound like they want to be there" back. Besides, it will only last for about six months before automation begins encroaching on every other non-physical job, and that resulting economic collapse will make all this irrelevant anyway.
>I mean just about every VA I have ever seen
On twitter? Last anin was right, the simplest solution is just not go on twitter.
>are you an ai
I am not going to sacrifice technological and culture progress just because some people got their jobs outmoded, and neither is anyone else. That is not natural human behavior, if it was we would still be gathering berries instead of planting crops.
>Anyone standing in the way of this technology is a selfish fool.
I don't doubt the technology itself can be stopped, way too much material and actors with the incentive to improve it, but there's no way this technology will be allowed to be used mainstream on big projects like Hollywood movies and tv shows without some form of royalties system, the music industry won't stand for it. Which is a good thing for hobbiest because they are too small goibig companies to go after.
Yes, that is a completely acceptable outcome. The entertainment industry is already a shithole, but voice work and music is one of the few things they have an almost monopoly on given the capital investment required to make it good. This will at the very least go a long way to making indie work competitive on that front.
>the "genuineness" is preserved as far as the AI can mimic the tones
you don't get it. you don't get it and you will never get it.
Oh, what a special little snowflake you are that you get it.
You can get it, just like the hand weavers got weaving, until the loom came around. Have fun getting it while the whole world moves on. I wish you had the backbone to stick with it until you died so that your influence would be eternally segregated from mainline society, but we both know you will break under peer pressure like the impressionable child you are and come crawling back into the fold.
>You can get it, just like the hand weavers got weaving, until the loom came around.
the loom still requires human input. there's a difference between making a job easier for people and replacing them outright. you dumb fuck.
no (You) for you
So doea AI you nagger, thats what prompt engineers do. So we're ending one worthless, skilless job(voice acting) for a soon to be in demand skilled job(prompt engineering)
>So we're ending one worthless, skilless job(voice acting)
Listen bro you cannot be angry at your high school anime club all your life.
>I'd recon that if an AI is mimicking someone else's voice then legally whoever makes a product with it will have to pay royalties to the VA the AI was trained off
Thanks for the laugh Anon. VAs getting royalties? Lol, lmao even.
Nick all star couldn't afford using voice clips for that reason.
It already has. If the big corporations put an ounce of effort into it they could make audio products indistinguishable from real actors right now. Sadly, the WGA strike has temporarily retarded development in this direction. The money that could go to industrial innovation is once again being pissed away on white collars.
>The money that could go to industrial innovation is once again being pissed away on white collars.
Good. Butlerian Jihad now.
This is a genuine bop, but quite terrifying! Good way for his estate to remain relevant in the minds of zoomers though.
this is peak digital necromancy
it's even better than the source material lmao
What I really want to know is "will daddy government inevitably sticking his dick in make it harder for fans to make meme videos of Brain from Pinky and the Brain doing the YWNBAW copypasta"?
Why are AIjeets completely inhuman, soulless creatures?
Would it have made you happier if it was winter wrap up or some other colorful tiny horse song?
not if AI can't properly do grunts or screaming or crying
At the moment, it's just for having fun
The legalities of using these voices is still a complete mystery, and so no corporation will use them in a commercial product until everything becomes clear
But I think many VAs are going to be finding permission documents shoved into their faces soon
No AI have no voice direction and most of the time it's not accurate. Also AI singing is just a more advanced auto tune .
Squidward A.I covers are really good
These sound terrible
Read about Crispin Glover's lawsuit about Back to the Future II to understand the possible legal hurdles
When it comes to this technology, all the examples I find are memes or porn. Has anyone tried to do something more serious with this technology? An animation or even a mod for a video game? I guess its biggest limitation is that it can only imitate other people's voices, which can lead to problems of all kinds.
the new spiderverse movie used an AI as a tool iirc
Hollywood use "AI" as tools for decades
I've seen AI used to dub over a few comics, and I think Cinemaphile did a few mods for Morrowind or something. There was also that autistic furfag who tried to replace Alyx from Half Life (or something) with Krystal from Star Fox.
nah; AI voice is essentially just a very complicated form of sampling, and it won't take too long for somebody to invent a tool for proving definitively which real VA's work you sampled without permission, and then if you used it in a commercial work you'll owe them money.
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