you kidding? he was so wienery that he insulted poseidon and got cursed because of it
I thought he got cursed by Poseidon because he blinded the Cyclops
Ironically Ancient people (especially the Romans) actually considered Odysseus to be the worst dick in the Iliad because of how manipulative he is, basically the Littlefinger of the era
>Ironically Ancient people (especially the Romans)
The Romans exclusively >considered Odysseus to be the worst dick in the Iliad because of how manipulative he is
No, it was because he singlehandedly ended Troy and they consider themselves its descendants
Thanks for reminding me that Odysseus is based as frick.
Ironically Ancient people (especially the Romans) actually considered Odysseus to be the worst dick in the Iliad because of how manipulative he is, basically the Littlefinger of the era
>Ironically Ancient people (especially the Romans)
The Romans exclusively >considered Odysseus to be the worst dick in the Iliad because of how manipulative he is
No, it was because he singlehandedly ended Troy and they consider themselves its descendants
He's supposed to be a warrior chad, kicking ass, in a war that's a hero. >he's kind of a dick
Yeah, he was human after all. Better that than a Gary Stu.
>he was human after all.
He was a demigod. >Better that than a Gary Stu
He was THE Gary Stu.
Aias and Hektor are the two most based individuals from the Trojan War - Diomedes, Aeneas and Odysseus come second.
Jesus was many things , but nice exactly wasn´t one of them that being said i completely agree with the msg you try to convey , but he has a nasty side to him and that will be the 2nd comeing , instead of a lamb he will come as the lion with burning eyes , white hair and in his true form.
Achilles is a dick though but a very strong one after Patroclus dies he's so pissed and losing to that the gods think Troy will be sacked sooner if they don't stop him he also pisses of a river god and fights him because he's butchering men left and right and it's clogging up the river
even though that is the correct opinion, it would be very different when you actually have to send your own brother to be slaughtered. I don't know being able to do it is an accomplisment or not
I was 10 when this came out and remember being very upset at the result of the Achilles vs Hector duel. Reading the Iliad as an adult only reinforced this
Ancient Greek heroes are the definition of "he's the hero because....because he just is, ok?"
Most of them are >beautiful because ugliness in A.G. was considered a character flaw, as in ugly people are evil >because they are beautiful they are favored by the gods, and that means they are immune to every misfortune unless another god intervenes >because they are favored by the gods they can practically do anything they want to less fortunate people like rape, kill, torture and insulting their families
Read the Illiad, every single one of the characters except maybe Helen is a fricking dick
Because it's made by the israelites who will later adapt those disgusting fantasy books by some leftist fatty. So ofc it's all about subversion of one of the most important western story.
There are heroes on both sides
>Is he supposed to be the hero? He’s kind of a dick.
That's the entire point of Greek heroes.
Odysseus wasn’t a dick though.
He reassured a captive they were not going to kill him then after he gave them information let Diomedes hack him to pieces.
Thanks for reminding me that Odysseus is based as frick.
you kidding? he was so wienery that he insulted poseidon and got cursed because of it
I thought he got cursed by Poseidon because he blinded the Cyclops
The cyclops was poseidon's son
What? He was a known trickster, look at what he did to Philoctetes for instance
Philoctetes should have not been so stinky.
Ironically Ancient people (especially the Romans) actually considered Odysseus to be the worst dick in the Iliad because of how manipulative he is, basically the Littlefinger of the era
>Ironically Ancient people (especially the Romans)
The Romans exclusively
>considered Odysseus to be the worst dick in the Iliad because of how manipulative he is
No, it was because he singlehandedly ended Troy and they consider themselves its descendants
>basically the Littlefinger of the era
You just couldn't help yourself...
this. achilles is basically histrionic in the iliad.
He's supposed to be a warrior chad, kicking ass, in a war that's a hero.
>he's kind of a dick
Yeah, he was human after all. Better that than a Gary Stu.
He was a Gary Stu though
>he was human after all.
He was a demigod.
>Better that than a Gary Stu
He was THE Gary Stu.
Aias and Hektor are the two most based individuals from the Trojan War - Diomedes, Aeneas and Odysseus come second.
if you were immortal and strong, would you be nice?
Yes. Jesus was.
Jesus was many things , but nice exactly wasn´t one of them that being said i completely agree with the msg you try to convey , but he has a nasty side to him and that will be the 2nd comeing , instead of a lamb he will come as the lion with burning eyes , white hair and in his true form.
You now know of anti-heroes
You mean villains?
Isn't he just one element of man, taken to an extreme?
Greek Mythology is literally just of stories of gods and demigods fricking with the lives of mortals
which chinese cartoon is this
It's the trailer/ad for a mobile game: https://youtu.be/jlaOiNXRyU4
b***h got what she deserved. Tempting Poseidon like that.
In greek culture you could be a dick as long as you were strong and brave. You weren't judged on your personality so much as your actual deeds.
Not much has changed then
Achilles is a dick though but a very strong one after Patroclus dies he's so pissed and losing to that the gods think Troy will be sacked sooner if they don't stop him he also pisses of a river god and fights him because he's butchering men left and right and it's clogging up the river
Agamemnon is the hero you idiot
pay attention
Hector is the actual protagonist, everybody knows that
It made me incredibly sad as a kid when Hector died because I wasn't used to the fact that the hero can die in movies.
While Hector was based for sticking up for his gay brother, as future ruler he should have let Paris die
imagine if it was your brother? would you let some invader kill him then shake his hand in peace?
yes
Paris brought it upon himself
even though that is the correct opinion, it would be very different when you actually have to send your own brother to be slaughtered. I don't know being able to do it is an accomplisment or not
Just order the gates shut and drink some wine while that homosexual seethes forever
He represents white people
>be Achilles’s heel
>get shot
the movie sucks. some good pracitcal effects and Pitt and Bana are alright in it, but Peter O'Toole walked out of it and he was in the fricking movie
Who cares we get to see Brad Pitt naked
no, hector was the hero
I was 10 when this came out and remember being very upset at the result of the Achilles vs Hector duel. Reading the Iliad as an adult only reinforced this
Ancient Greek heroes are the definition of "he's the hero because....because he just is, ok?"
Most of them are
>beautiful because ugliness in A.G. was considered a character flaw, as in ugly people are evil
>because they are beautiful they are favored by the gods, and that means they are immune to every misfortune unless another god intervenes
>because they are favored by the gods they can practically do anything they want to less fortunate people like rape, kill, torture and insulting their families
Read the Illiad, every single one of the characters except maybe Helen is a fricking dick
Don't besmirch the good name of Sarpedon
Because it's made by the israelites who will later adapt those disgusting fantasy books by some leftist fatty. So ofc it's all about subversion of one of the most important western story.
This was made before the woke era, patroclus would 100% be his lover today
>there wasn't any subversive shit before 2015
ok homosexual