Eh magisterium only has a weak grasp in all of the worlds or else it would not have been so easy to mount a rebellion.
I don't even want to say it was evenly matched. The church never stood a chance and the natural order was always going to swing back hard.
The atheist writer himself said that he was surprised about some religious groups banning Harry Potter books while in his own the protagonists killed God and no one cared until the movie.
Well not God in the traditional sense of an omnipotent and omniscient being, but the setting's version of God as in the first of the angelic race or whatever that was so incredibly ancient he crumbled into dust after being freed from his crystal cage.
The books are about kids that have magic spirit animals and parallel worlds colliding with one another, eventually culminating with the protagonists accidently killing God and going to war with his angels because they are actually corrupt, evil dickheads torturing the souls of all humanity for eternity.
This is sort of what puts me off about the story. I know *what* the daemons are, but I don't get *why* they are. What possible benefit could come from having a highly vulnerable, externalized soul? Bear in mind - my knowledge all comes from the adaptations
>*why* they are
Because the author thought it would be cool for characters to have spirit animals. They are basically nothing but detrimental to humans that have them though since they are directly tied to the human's life.
>when humans frick so do the daemons
Kind of fricked up that you'd be boning your wife then look over and see your horse daemon clapping the cheeks of a chicken daemon
Easy way to give characters somebody to talk to when they're alone. Also have literal conversations with their own 'soul'
Plus that kind of thing was huge with kids at the time. Harry Potter had its houses and patronus (which is functionally the same thing as Daemons), Hunger Games had its districts, Twilight had its shipping wars.
Anything to give the reader some kind of 'team' to identify themselves as/with was a good way of supporting a fandom
Easy way to give characters somebody to talk to when they're alone. Also have literal conversations with their own 'soul'
Plus that kind of thing was huge with kids at the time. Harry Potter had its houses and patronus (which is functionally the same thing as Daemons), Hunger Games had its districts, Twilight had its shipping wars.
Anything to give the reader some kind of 'team' to identify themselves as/with was a good way of supporting a fandom
Oh it's also used as a taboo thing, where touching someone's daemon is basically rape, and severing the link between a person and their daemon is basically castration
I dropped the show in season 1 when brown Lee Scorsby was even more annoying that I imagined. Frick that, Will's actor and the weird pacing, Lyra's learning about her real mother right away from that gyptian woman etc.
Shame, I was really looked forward to the show since it was announced.
left was straight bad
right was okay but had a bunch of issues like bad pacing/strange order of scenes (e.g introducing modern world plot super early) and being made too slowly (so main girl ends up way older than she should be)
The books were one of my favourite series growing up, but yea the adaptations always failed one way or another.
What ever happened to season 3 anyways, is it canceled? I appreciate the ambition on their part but it was poorly conceived to have three seasons to begin with. Book 3 requires at least two seasons.
was enchanted. Everything about her was perfect, and delighted him...he would never have dreamed, after those first few minutes, of doing anything to upset that little child. He was her servant for life.
my niece walks on my toes like this facing the other way and i walk the both of us along making robot noises and pretend to be out of batteries sometimes
kids are cool
>look up show >Will is black
Is that true to the books? I read them 20 years ago so I don't remember. I do remember not liking his character that much.
They're not unadaptable, but they are hard to adapt. Both versions made similar mistakes >coulter not hot enough (I mean just look at pick related... she's supposed to be absolutely DICK MELTINGLY HOT, so....?!??!?!) >lord asriel not hot enough (sorry mackyboy) >lyra not hot enough >generally not even remotely edgy enough >low budget moronic polar bears >not weird enough - you need a production with its own vision, because the books are very evocative of a world that FEELS different, not just shiny olde-ish englande or whatever
Yeah it sucks that my favorite books for like 12 years (maybe not recently bc i started reading anerican gods) always get the cringe treatment like this
separately both adaptations show it can be done. the movie had phenomenal casting but everything else was mediocre. the tv series has the situation reversed. the one constant is a hot lyra. maybe the third time is the charm.
i mean, i just like the world both of these examples present. something really comfy about it, and i'm not just talking about the underage girls.
It's the opposite of comfy though, its a bleak depressing world governed by an insane god
Eh magisterium only has a weak grasp in all of the worlds or else it would not have been so easy to mount a rebellion.
I don't even want to say it was evenly matched. The church never stood a chance and the natural order was always going to swing back hard.
The first movie was ok even if it doesn't have the religious elements. The hbo was posted
No
Maybe
She's cute
The Golden Compass. His Dark Materials.
Booba later. Booba Now.
>the Lyra with big breasts vs the Lyra with big ass
I played a demo of the videogame for the one on the left, it was ok
>His Dark Materials
QRD, sound like some queer shit for fat lesbians
Kino books that were immediately pozzed the second the creator gave up the rights to Hollywood israelites
>books
>kino
Confirmed for shit taste. They were also pretty pozzed themselves.
>eventually culminating with the protagonists accidently killing God
There is literally no God in HDM, unless you consider the not-Force stuff everyone in the books creams themselves over to be God.
The atheist writer himself said that he was surprised about some religious groups banning Harry Potter books while in his own the protagonists killed God and no one cared until the movie.
Well not God in the traditional sense of an omnipotent and omniscient being, but the setting's version of God as in the first of the angelic race or whatever that was so incredibly ancient he crumbled into dust after being freed from his crystal cage.
The books are about kids that have magic spirit animals and parallel worlds colliding with one another, eventually culminating with the protagonists accidently killing God and going to war with his angels because they are actually corrupt, evil dickheads torturing the souls of all humanity for eternity.
This is sort of what puts me off about the story. I know *what* the daemons are, but I don't get *why* they are. What possible benefit could come from having a highly vulnerable, externalized soul? Bear in mind - my knowledge all comes from the adaptations
Also, how do bears forge armor?
>*why* they are
Because the author thought it would be cool for characters to have spirit animals. They are basically nothing but detrimental to humans that have them though since they are directly tied to the human's life.
>when humans frick so do the daemons
Kind of fricked up that you'd be boning your wife then look over and see your horse daemon clapping the cheeks of a chicken daemon
That's what I was afraid of.
Easy way to give characters somebody to talk to when they're alone. Also have literal conversations with their own 'soul'
Plus that kind of thing was huge with kids at the time. Harry Potter had its houses and patronus (which is functionally the same thing as Daemons), Hunger Games had its districts, Twilight had its shipping wars.
Anything to give the reader some kind of 'team' to identify themselves as/with was a good way of supporting a fandom
Oh it's also used as a taboo thing, where touching someone's daemon is basically rape, and severing the link between a person and their daemon is basically castration
And it all just sounds sooo moronic.
Dropped the show the moment I saw Will's actor
She's got it
I dropped the show in season 1 when brown Lee Scorsby was even more annoying that I imagined. Frick that, Will's actor and the weird pacing, Lyra's learning about her real mother right away from that gyptian woman etc.
Shame, I was really looked forward to the show since it was announced.
These adaptions are blessed to have their lead actresses turn into absolute smokeshows.
left was straight bad
right was okay but had a bunch of issues like bad pacing/strange order of scenes (e.g introducing modern world plot super early) and being made too slowly (so main girl ends up way older than she should be)
Who did it better?
both
The real answer is right tried to capture Lyra's context differing speech patterns from the books and left didn't bother.
I'd say yes
The book series mogs HP and all other contemporary YA completely and thoroughly
Perhaps it's on par with LoTR and Narnia, or mogs even them - yes, seethe, christcucks
But I can see why plebs were filtered
It should have stayed niche and it's a good thing that it did
The books were one of my favourite series growing up, but yea the adaptations always failed one way or another.
What ever happened to season 3 anyways, is it canceled? I appreciate the ambition on their part but it was poorly conceived to have three seasons to begin with. Book 3 requires at least two seasons.
Anyone read the new sequel books?
>Describes his now 19 year old protagonist in semi erotic terms
>Ships said former e-girl protagonist with his blatant self insert.
Yeah I'm thinking he's based.
his voice work in the audiobookis also pretty solid
really, is there anything this man can't do?
Only the first one. But now I will read the second as well.
What did you think of the attempted gang rape scene?
Not even memeing here BTW.
was enchanted. Everything about her was perfect, and delighted him...he would never have dreamed, after those first few minutes, of doing anything to upset that little child. He was her servant for life.
Um Pullman bros.....
Why do you have this image saved?
Why does this image even exist?
my niece walks on my toes like this facing the other way and i walk the both of us along making robot noises and pretend to be out of batteries sometimes
kids are cool
Um, how old is she in this scene?
/ourguy/
They're just really fricking boring books. It's 70% dull filler, where nothing important happens. The characters are just kinda bland.
I'm pretty sure they only got big back in the 00's because it was the era of unironic fedora tipping atheists.
I think people need to accept that once you get over the edgy atheism, the books are pretty mediocre.
only the first book even has a good story, and it ends on child murder and a cliff hanger. it's not exactly a rich seam of material.
I think most YA is doomed to have shitty to middling adaptions
This one hurts, at least London looked good
Based Mortal Engines chad
Right looks fricking "soulless".
I could never buy Craig or McAvoy as Chadsriel tbh
I always pictured him as far more imposing as a kid
>look up show
>Will is black
Is that true to the books? I read them 20 years ago so I don't remember. I do remember not liking his character that much.
ofc he wasn't black in the books lol
They're not unadaptable, but they are hard to adapt. Both versions made similar mistakes
>coulter not hot enough (I mean just look at pick related... she's supposed to be absolutely DICK MELTINGLY HOT, so....?!??!?!)
>lord asriel not hot enough (sorry mackyboy)
>lyra not hot enough
>generally not even remotely edgy enough
>low budget moronic polar bears
>not weird enough - you need a production with its own vision, because the books are very evocative of a world that FEELS different, not just shiny olde-ish englande or whatever
>pick[sic] related
For all its problems the movie had god tier casting.
I can get behind craig, but kidman is just not hot enough
Loved the books, hated the paint by numbers movie, tv show was ok but underwhelming and had typical pozzed shit inserted
Yeah it sucks that my favorite books for like 12 years (maybe not recently bc i started reading anerican gods) always get the cringe treatment like this
separately both adaptations show it can be done. the movie had phenomenal casting but everything else was mediocre. the tv series has the situation reversed. the one constant is a hot lyra. maybe the third time is the charm.