Is it just me or are action filmmakers afraid to make cheesy over-the-top entertainment nowadays?

Is it just me or are action filmmakers afraid to make cheesy over-the-top entertainment nowadays? Most action movies nowadays take themselves too seriously even when the plots are ridiculous, and there is a lot of monotonous grimness in them plus a pretense of being about Big Important Themes. Back in the day, action filmmakers weren't afraid to make movies that were somewhat ridiculous and over-the-top and just plain entertaining. Not that they weren't trying to make serious movies, but it seemed like they were having more fun with the whole thing.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The death and violence in that movie is absurd and comical at times.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People who overly nitpick plot lines have essentially killed that genre.
    Just look at how some people respond to prey, a movie that’s just a cheesy fun action movie, but every single thing is picked apart and nitpicked even if it doesn’t actually make sense to nitpick

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I like movies that have ridiculous plots but don't pretend to be delivering some kind of great message about life. And I also like movies that have tight plots and take themselves seriously. What annoys me is movies that have ridiculous plots but try to get me to pretend otherwise. I love movies like Commando and Hard Target and I don't care that the plots are ridiculous. But I get annoyed when a movie has a ridiculous plot but it also has a serious, gritty and joyless tone as if it's trying to be some realistic cinema that has important things to say about the world. For example, The Dark Knight.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Prey was bad. Cope.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the 80s

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        IMGONNAKILLYOUNOW

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They don't make anything genuine. This era has been all about emulation, criticism, and satire. Layer on some constant and annoying political lectures on top of that. Hollywood does not know how to straight up entertain anymore.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it just me or are action filmmakers afraid to make cheesy over-the-top entertainment nowadays?
    picrel

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What is this from?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Django Unchained (2012)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Tarantino is a relic from another era and you know it. Plus this movie is 10 years old.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This is probably the closest we get but even the wick movies take their universe somewhat seriously. There is some slight cheese but not too much

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Boss Level

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Western films are all postmodernist now. Only Pajeet can save fun action films now, too bad they'll be buried in musical numbers

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    60s and 70s action movies were better.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All the 80's was was cheesy male action flicks, it was great.
    90's were drama, thrillers psychological and nihilistic.

    Filmmakers thought they were "maturing" the industry. In the 2000's you see movies like 300 which were shit on for being "gay" because they were too macho. You see a lot of "safe" fantasy, like gladiator, pirates, shrek, lotr and harry potter. You see postmodern movies like napoleon dynamite and juno. The best father figure is in a cartoon, Incredibles. You see homosexuality pushed in brokeback mountain, capeshit starts.

    In the 2010's the best movie of all time for years is a shitty black panther movie. Every single movie is some postmodern hottake drama with meek men and disgusting women. The only action movie to come out, mad max, is a reboot and is far more memorable than anything else released and yet it still hamfists a female dyke into it.

    The industry can't handle macho movies anymore

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    current filmmakers have no sense of humor and suck ass
    everything has to be gritty, realistic and serious with stupid color filters

    we must go back

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's the opposite, they are terrified of taking anything seriously now. What do you want, more quips ?

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1 Issue: We dont have the Actors to deliver it.
    2 Issue: If we had the Actors to deliver it, they still wouldnt made such Movies because to manly and men bad nowdays.

    3 Issue: Hollywood has lost it touch since 2010.
    4 Issue: Hollywood cant do Kino anymore.

    5 Issue: Writers and Directos nowdays want political nonsense rather creativity in their movies.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's the difference between movies made for American audiences vs movies made for the foreign market. Chinese and Indians want a more serious film and don't understand western humor and zaniness.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >this whole sentence

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        But there's two sentences in that post

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >cheesy over-the-top entertainment nowadays?

    This is exactly what the MCU offers.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The fantasy super power element is the problem. It removes the characters from anything resembling humanity. Yeah Arnold is a massively steroided apex human and John McClane is an exaggerated super cop, but they're both just dudes who are forced to reach their highest potential by the villains. So when the whole movie builds up to Arnold throwing a pipe through the villain and saying "Let off some steam, Dennis", you could imagine a badass commando saying something like that, after he's been pushed to his limit and prevailed.
      MCU movies always just end up with a big "muh CGI vs yuh CGI" showdown. None of it means anything or has any relevance to human life whatsoever. The quips are just more empty window dressing, another tasteless ingredient in the big digital stew of forgettable comicslop.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Based. In the 80s, characters like Dutch from Predator, Rambo and McClane were all forced to succeed against overwhelming odds by virtue of their cool under pressure and capacity for violence. Now we just don't have any actors left who can realistically play those roles, so we turn manlets and soiboys into action heroes with le CGI super powers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Plus Marvel has always been about melodramatic interpersonal relationship stuff (e.g. why every Spiderman villian is personally connected to Peter Parker). DC has more depth but it doesn't translate into a "cinematic universe" and they tried to simply copy the MCU (they've done well with their standalone stuff so far though).

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Gray Man
    >Terminal List
    There's a return for it outside of cringe link Liam Neeson and John Wick

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