Is it just me or do shows that are traditionally animated in korea nowadays look like crap compared to shows animated digitally?
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Is it just me or do shows that are traditionally animated in korea nowadays look like crap compared to shows animated digitally?
Name a few, I'm curious
It depends
Sometimes you got outsourced shows that look great because the animation directors over here call for them to look a certain way. Outsourced animation is filled with animators that just do their jobs so I suppose you'd have to be vocal on what exactly you want in your cartoon
It's already a well-known fact that Star looked worse when it switched studios and techniques, and that Disney's show that are Canadian-animated blow their Korean-animated show out of the water.
Please don't let this happen to Molly.
damn you are right, that would destroy the show.
It's an animation quality thread and you posted a comparison of still shots like a moron.
And I'll do it again
The Mercury example is definitely better, but your argument is over a character that was poorly designed in the first place. You should cut your losses and find a better example.
why do americans make light about their jobs getting outsourced?
because these cartoo jokes are for themselves not for smelly dumb childre
>childre
Yes.
Because they think THEIR job won't be outsourced. Also 2D animation isn't very appreciated, there's a reason why Disney shut down that studio and shills only ugly live actions now.
>there's a reason why Disney shut down that studio
They're actually taking baby steps towards reinstating a 2D division actually, hence little 'exercises' like that Dalmatians commercial.
>Majority here only know stuff on the superficial level and have never worked in the industry let alone pick up a book on animation
That's just as true for even the execs though.
Commercial are never made in-house. They're outsourced like the rest. It only looks slightly better because it has a higher budget per second than their TV shows.
>Commercial are never made in-house.
At least very early on, they often were, like those Hanna-Barbera produced commercials/interstitials seen in their earlier shows that were made to advertise Kellogg's cereals, or the famous "Tom Oreb-style" ones also produced by Disney.
Anyways, there's nothing in any article revolving around the Dalmatians commercial stating it was outsourced in any capacity..
There's nothing stating it wasn't.
Nothing stating it was either.
What's funny is that the HB Kellogg's commercials actually had more animation than the actual shows did. The only other times HB really got to use full animation were the Yogi Bear and Flintstones movies in the mid 1960s.
these ignorant fricks deserve to get replaced by anime
Because it's been fricking decades for some professions and at this point it's more apathy than acceptance.
A show like this would've looked awful if it were hand-drawn
Not really? Only example I can think of that was like this was Star Vs
Are you telling me that this has better animation than Star Vs. season one?
The leaps and bounds in technology made this one of the worse-looking cartoons back then to one of the better-looking cartoons when it was revived
It's because Koreans are incompetent and we should've never stopped using the Japanese instead. It's either that or animation should've been made in its own country, anything but Korea.
the problem with Korea is that everything is followed perfectly. Combined with really basic, bland storyboards/animatics, they basically get what's put in. I think puppet animation can look fantastic but there's still many shows that don't take full advantage of it.
japs didn't need us anymore. after the mid-90s and pokemon they didn't need to make money on american contracts. Wander over Yonder and Gumball look great and I think they were both done in ireland (by different studios)
I want to say that domestic korean entertainment is getting a foot in other countries now. I don't quite think it's as meteoric as Japan and Anime, at least with the context of animation and Korea, but it's definitely getting more expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if Rough Draft stops taking overseas contracts within a decade if they continue to have their entertainment industry become more profitable.
WOY's best looking eps were done in Canada by Mercury Filmworks
I contend that Season 2's (by Boulder Media) My Fair Hatey is the best animated episode in the whole series, and the one of the best animated cartoon episodes to ever air on TV. Season 1 still looks fantastic but I ultimately think Season 2 is even better.
Nobody animates traditionally nowadays. Inking is digital in 99% of cases, coloring and compositing are always digital.
No, the inking is traditional, it's the coloring that's digital
Traditional = drawn frame by frame
Tradigital = uses rigging sometimes
Get it right
Every modern Cartoon Network show that is Korean-animated is painfully stiff.
Even worse are WB cartoons that are traditionally animated
Somebody said that Lion Guard looked like flash shit. Owl House and Amphibia wishes it looked this good.
wasnt this the show that did season 1 of star vs?
You mean studio? If so, yes.
Cinemaphile wouldn't know good animation if it smacked them in the face. Just shut up and post some b***hes.
>Cinemaphile wouldn't know good animation if it smacked them in the face.
Sometimes they do. Too bad very little of it is TV.
That's due to the average poster not knowing the process of said animation and how that manages to excite the mind
Majority here only know stuff on the superficial level and have never worked in the industry let alone pick up a book on animation
But the audience knows what they don't like
I'm not sure how this is new, Korean studios are used to outsource many shows at once by people who are not intimate with it, of course it looks worse than if it was done digitally by people who are intimate with it.
What the frick is thread? Bots?
It's a thread to declare that flash / toon boom animation is finally good.
is outsourced animation seen as a bad thing in the industry? because whenever there's a joke about korean animators, they act like its worse than slavery. (I.E. that one episode of clerks.)
>is outsourced animation seen as a bad thing in the industry?
The international kind is one of the last remaining holdovers from the dark ages, so make of that what you will.
Depends on the studio.
A lot of the Southeast Asian studios (the workhouses of outsourced animation at least until very recently), from what I understand, with exceptions like Snipple, are designed from the ground up to follow the boards (while making adjustments to match the model sheets better) and draw the in-betweens between the board drawings in an assembly line sort of manner, leading to bland results.
The angular, HB-esque style of many of the major 2000s cartoons hid their weaknesses well as the character designs worked well in the more limited animation of TV. However, design trends of more rounded, dimensional characters in the 2010s exposed the modern weaknesses of the Korean studios in being able to animate anything dynamic if they're not provided with boards that properly take advantage of the character designs.
Meanwhile, the outsourcing work in Canada, the US, and elsewhere are a mixed bag, ranging from being absolutely pathetic (many of the Canadian shows in the 2000s and early 2010s) to somewhat decent (Jam Filled, the more tween-heavy Titmouse shows), to nearly god-tier (Mercury, Titmouse at their best).
Cinemaphile would like some shows animated in Korea whether they were in 2D _or_ 3D, provided they had sufficient "jiggle"
Cinemaphile doesn't actually watch this show. They just post pictures of the chicks.
Domestically produced Korean animation is nearly a world apart from the outsourced variant though.
Dong Woo was a good studio but they haven't been relevant in ages.
I think MiR, DR Movie and when they give a shit, even Rough Draft are among the exceptions to the rule I have in mind as far as international outsourced animation goes.
All those studios and overrated and have gotten worse over the years.
Won't deny that, but considering the clients responsible for producing that screencap's examples...
>Two completely different art styles
No quality of animation could save a show with character design that bad
What's bad about them?
b***h won't answer.
What would this art style be called? Corporate Comic? Comic-Corpo
I'd say "post-ATLA pseudo-anime" style.
It's the "I AM NOT BEANMOUTH" style
Frick this overrated noseless purple b***h, for a millisecond there I thought pic related and his beautiful pointy nose finally got a thread of their own, but nah, it's the fricking sneeds again and some fricking actually interesting looking meta discussion. Frick.
piss off big city greens mogs OK KO even on its worst eps
This. KO sucked. It wasn't funny at all.
They both suck
Big City Greens is fine. It's like middling quality Simpsons for kids.
No
It looks like absolute fermented dogshit, anon, glazed with turpentine, and everything else about it is just so-so (on a good day.)
The primary color vomit, and the bottom of the barrel calarts chara designs are eye-meltingly ugly. OK KO is not exactly known for being the most visually appealing cartoon out there, but at least it does have a soul and it's not solely populated with fugly noseless technicolor humans who look like mutant offspring of the Plantars. It also has some underrated hot characters, like pic related for example, which was sort of the entire point of my previous post. I don't give a shit if your sneed show is funny to normalgay babies or whatever, I stopped watching it ages ago because it was boring as drying paint. All I was trying to convey is that the purple waifu is shit and her show gives me eye-cancer.
You know, even the Plantars thought they looked strange in that crossover event.
>a dogshit cartoon calling another dogshit cartoon "bad"
Are you winning, son?
Korean animation has to be getting more expensive, doesn't it? It's not exactly a low cost of living country any more. I know that they're used to loving in tiny underground apartments, but there has to be a limit.
I'm sure Groening explicitly hated the top as he did with all dynamic, fun animation.
he complains about the more cartoony simpsons gags fairly often in the dvd commentaries (pic definitely related)