Is it just me or was anyone else really excited to have a guy like this a villain only to slowly discover how shit the writers would treat him?
Is it just me or was anyone else really excited to have a guy like this a villain only to slowly discover how shit the writers would treat him?
Season 2 of Korra did so much damage to the series. Like sure season 1 ending was lame but the rest of it was interesting. Season 2 really was just them throwing in their favorite anime troupes to see what sticked. I think I heard from a podcast none of it was planned ahead because they didn't think they'd get a second season after 1. Explains why Korra dad is suddenly the chief of the entire southern tribe when you think that'd be a massive deal in season 1.
the fundamental problem of TLoK has always been the mentality of "the next season isn't guaranteed we have to make this season stand on it's own" and repeat that for every season.
The fundamental problem of people citing this is that it isn't fucking true. They knew they had 4 seasons locked before S1 finished airing.
Well they sure as shit weren't writing like the knew it until S3.
With some fairness, production scheduling is a nightmare in itself so planning for 3 additional seasons at once after you already thought you'd only have the one is a lot to handle, and they likely got the 3+4 at the same time after they started prepping S2.
Having rewatched Korra last month I can safely say a ton of the hate is overblown. It's just mid, which is disappointing but some autists act like it fucked their mom.
I rewatched it a year ago and it was worse than I remembered, particularly season 1 and 2 and everything relating to Suyin in the later seasons. I'd been giving S1 more of a pass than I should've and there truly is no understating how bad S2 is. Overall, the show is carried HARD by the superb technical aspects (i.e. visuals, sound, voice acting).
Season 1 is decent, maybe even just plain good. Season 2 is shit and we'd be better off if it was straight retconned out of existence. Season 3 is okay as far as I remember, but the climax is on par with the best episodes of the original series, really great stuff. Season 4 is pretty bad but not really in an interesting way, and it's not really worth harping on. I'm not excited about the upcoming projects because of Korra, but I guess I'm not resigned to it being a guaranteed disaster either.
I was fucking baffled when I found this out. I always wondered what it would look like if they had been able to plan it out and it turns out they always could have. Absolutely insane how the quality swings from shit to great knowing this.
>Like sure season 1 ending was lame but the rest of it was interesting.
I liked season 1 ending, or I don't remember well, I just know the suicide scene and blood bending flashbacks were kino for 12 year old me
>I don't remember well
I think that's the case because it's pretty fucked. Tarrlok's eleventh hour tragic backstory reveal was presented well, but it was fucking terrible writing when you take a step back. And it's just one of many writing failures in the finale.
It wasn't the fact he died it was the reveal that he too was a bender and that just deflated the serious problems between benders and nonbenders that the whole show just drops completely after their fascist little cue against half the city's population.
I liked Unalaq as a religious zealot and a traditionalist who wanted to impose his will on the Southern Water Tribe. I hated when they decided to make him "actually, I selfishly wanted to be the Dark Avatar the whole time, which felt like it betrayed the first quarter of the series and the fundamental issue behind the crisis that started the season.
Yea. I dropped Korra when the evil avatar shit happened.
He seemed odd to me, honestly the whole new villain thing seemed odd too. Because while Amon ended up being shit in the end he was still an interesting villain until that point.
Eh, "Korra's evil uncle" is a pretty lame premise. Granted that "Korra's evil uncle who is also the antichrist" is even worse, but the whole civil war plotline was hamfisted even at its best.
Tonraq is so fucking hot
yeah i've had more than a couple shameful "moments" dedicated to this polar bear of a man
He was pretty normal looking at the start of the first season and then he gets bullked up like the creators felt that Korra had to inherit her muscles from someone.
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I think the idea of an equally powerful counter to the Avatar is a good idea and would have brought a lot to the series and setting if done correctly. Too bad they fucked it up by making it good vs evil instead of something more nuanced like change vs status quo or whatever.
Genuinely could've been a good bait and switch, like if Dark Avatar is something team avatar coined Unalaq because from their point of view they are the good guys, only for Unalaq to call them out on it. Instead HE named himself Dark Avatar
I don't think I've ever seen another human being care about this guy. Amon had a sympathetic angle and a mysterious identity (even if it didn't deliver), Zaheer was the first evil airbender and his fights were a highlight of the season, Kuvira had fashy mommy energy
What does he have going for him?
In theory, the idea of a spiritual mentor who has an opposing political agenda has some potential. The problem is that they go nowhere with either of those ideas and just make him the antichrist and Korra learns virtually nothing from the experience. Arguably she learned less than nothing, since leaving the spirit portals open was a very questionable decision.
When you subtract the literal spirit powers, his character feels a lot less spiritual than even Zaheer though
they repeat that every season.
every villain had legit good arguments on what they doing but them they drop the ball and reduce them to to literal devil in the wrong but never touching the matter, the problem still there they just ignore it.
funny because in a way all those villains touch on ''socialist matters'', i wonder if the writers wanted to talk about pros/cons of socialism but they were also afraid the big executives would get angry
>What does he have going for him?
He could have strong RETVRN energy, as an ultra-traditionalist who hates modernity, allowing for some sort of quasi environmentalist "we need to balance advancement with respect for the natural world" children's message.
The problem is that his RETVRN energy got subsumed into the Anti-Christ Avatar thing. The show tried to do too much. You can *almost* see the tradition/modernity conflict making Jinora's silly subplot work, because you have this traditionalist child being able to do what Korra (and Tenzin) cannot, since she's not weighed down by their worldly commitments. But the Anti-Christ stuff muddles the plot. Once you're worrying about gods, the affairs of mortals just don't matter as much.
I'm not saying it'd be a thrilling or innovative story. Aang pulled off the "respect nature, accept modernity" thing in like 2 different episodes of AtLA. But it's workable if they'd just trimmed down Season 2 and focused.
bro the writers treated everyone and everything bad, he's not special in that regard
Su got treated pretty good.
everytime i see that pic
In a show with the unspoken theme of nepo babies failing upwards in life, Su actually built something with her life... and then turned into a selfish, unrepentant asshole who pulled up the ladder behind her.
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On the contrary the first time we see him is so telegraph he is evil I was expecting a subversion.
I can think of another
The only thing exciting in all of season 2 is his hot yandere daughter. I literally sped through any episode without her as a subplot.
Really all the main characters are so shit. Season 1 I only watched for Amon, 3 for the anarchist Airbender and his bad ass bending buddies. 4 I unironically wish I hadn't watched at all, kuvira is terrible, and the fact they did that mecha shit for so much of the season is so cringe and terrible I'm still actively trying to forget it happened. I guess maybe Varrick and his waifu subplot was okay but...
Well anyway I'm just glad none of it is Canon.
I was never excited.