The Japs get this. They know to categorize the market and make manga that appeals to specific demographics. Your teenage girl who just wants frilly shoujo romance isn't going to buy violent action books, or your teen boy who wants action and some sexiness isn't going to ready frilly romances, and that's fine. You make books for each market segment that they want and therefore sell twice as much. It's weird that the American mainstream comics publishers forgot this simple fact because they used to do it too.
There are titles that cross the divide in terms of appeal, but they're the exception, not the rule.
PPG appealed to boys and girls... except the merch, the merch was all in on girls.
Sure, you can make cross-segment books, but that's intentional. You intentionally create cross-appeal works. The problem is when you pretend there aren't segments at all and everything is for everyone.
I think Inuyasha, Sailor moon, and Card Captor Sakura appealed to both genders by accident instead of intentionally. At least, I've never heard that it was by design. But the same thing can be true of male-targetting things that appeal to girls. Sometimes the extra fandom just pops up because of the quality of the product.
Harry Potter seems like that type. Adventures of a young boy in magic school, but it appealed to many women.
I'm not sure how much of the problem is the western entertainment industries trying to make a single product that's "for everyone", and creating things as bland and inoffensive as possible, and don't strongly appeal to anyone in particular, or how much it's down to attempts to co-opt action-heavy entertainment traditionally aimed at men or boys, and re-purpose the characters for female audiences rather than just producing different things for different audiences.
That just how everything is in America, never developed an artisan tradition, just groups of creators working together on a industrial scale producing something established and safe to please investors if not their parent company.
>Another east vs west thread
I dunno but book books don't seem to have this gender problem. Maybe instead of copy the soul less work environments of the Japanese, we should look to our own similar industries that don't rely of gendered sub genres just to sell themselves.
What are you talking about? Books pioneered this concept of market segmentation ages ago. You think things like the romance book genre are some kind of accident?
>I dunno but book books don't seem to have this gender problem.
Frick are you talking about?
Books are just as segregated by gender as manga is.
Are you moronic?
No, it's considered gender segregationist.
Yes, OP, this is a sexy comic. Pretty girls fighting monsters is something everyone can enjoy.
Why would you need to do that?
Go look at the top comics on webtoons
No. There are different genders and different genders like different things. Pretending otherwise isn't sexist.
Comics are inanimate objects. Comics don't have genders.
Why would it be?
Men and women, as large groups, like different things. Did you not know that?
The Japs get this. They know to categorize the market and make manga that appeals to specific demographics. Your teenage girl who just wants frilly shoujo romance isn't going to buy violent action books, or your teen boy who wants action and some sexiness isn't going to ready frilly romances, and that's fine. You make books for each market segment that they want and therefore sell twice as much. It's weird that the American mainstream comics publishers forgot this simple fact because they used to do it too.
There are titles that cross the divide in terms of appeal, but they're the exception, not the rule.
PPG appealed to boys and girls... except the merch, the merch was all in on girls.
Sure, you can make cross-segment books, but that's intentional. You intentionally create cross-appeal works. The problem is when you pretend there aren't segments at all and everything is for everyone.
I think Inuyasha, Sailor moon, and Card Captor Sakura appealed to both genders by accident instead of intentionally. At least, I've never heard that it was by design. But the same thing can be true of male-targetting things that appeal to girls. Sometimes the extra fandom just pops up because of the quality of the product.
Harry Potter seems like that type. Adventures of a young boy in magic school, but it appealed to many women.
I'm not sure how much of the problem is the western entertainment industries trying to make a single product that's "for everyone", and creating things as bland and inoffensive as possible, and don't strongly appeal to anyone in particular, or how much it's down to attempts to co-opt action-heavy entertainment traditionally aimed at men or boys, and re-purpose the characters for female audiences rather than just producing different things for different audiences.
That just how everything is in America, never developed an artisan tradition, just groups of creators working together on a industrial scale producing something established and safe to please investors if not their parent company.
Shut up dude
>Another east vs west thread
I dunno but book books don't seem to have this gender problem. Maybe instead of copy the soul less work environments of the Japanese, we should look to our own similar industries that don't rely of gendered sub genres just to sell themselves.
What are you talking about? Books pioneered this concept of market segmentation ages ago. You think things like the romance book genre are some kind of accident?
>I dunno but book books don't seem to have this gender problem.
Frick are you talking about?
Books are just as segregated by gender as manga is.
Are you moronic?
I would love for gay shit and feminist shit to be it’s own completely separate shit and we have our straight male space back.