>is named Victor Von Doom
>is supposed to be a gypsy
>is drawn as a curly haired white/tanned brunette/auburn redhaired man with a hooked nose
>his father's name is Werner (German) and his mother's Cynthia (Greek)
>the gypsy tribe's name is Zefiro, which isn't Romani, but Greek
>Latveria changes place in the Balkans all the time, last time it was shown to be above Serbia, where the Royal Family was named Furtonov (Balkanised Italian) and the Prince was named Zorbas (Greek)
>wears a Medieval Central European Armour but with an Eastern Roman/Byzantine style tunic on top
There is literally nothing cohesive about Doom's design at all when you come to think about it. Unless he's a German-Greek Gypsy (Three Gs, I guess it fits) stuck in Slavland which... pretty much explains why he's crazy.
>the superiority complex and orderly autism of the German
>the thievery and persecution complex of the gyppo
>the god complex, all-over-the-place-ness and jealousy of the Greek
My God, it fits, I cracked the code! We finally know why Doom's autistic, it's literally in his genes. All that and then he goes to America to get punked by the very definition of a WASP Chad Thunderwiener. The guy had no chance tbh. No wonder his only "friends" are a BiPolar Atlantean and... yeah, that's it. Jesus...
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So basically Latveria is to Europe what Wakanda is to Africa.
You can't expect comic writers to do any research or expend any time on world building. Do you know how much work that is?!
Am I the only person here who has read the Prisoner of Zenda and understands the literary underpinnings of Doom and Latveria?
Only you, Alan Moore, and 19th century popular literature majors have read Prisoner of Zenda.
In that case I'm just going to go ahead and point out that most comic book elements are derived from late 19th and early 20th century adventure fiction while the basic form of the supervillain, an attention grabbing and self-promoting criminal who repeated escapes from an ineffectual legal system, is based on the public enemies era of the 1920s and early 30s and is split pretty evenly in inspiration between flashy mobsters like Capone and Luciano, and Midwest robbery gangs like the Barker-Karpis Gang or Bonnie and Clyde.
Then why don't most superheroes have a chinese supervillain a la Fu Manchu? (Iron Man and Shang Chi aside, of course?)
NTA, but too foreign maybe?
Except Latveria was the opposite of advanced before Doom came into power
Used to be the case with Wakanda and T'Challa, too.
really?
Yup, apparently it was T'Challa who started developing all that crazy tech. Then later on, I think it was on the Marvel Knights Black Panther title, it was retconned to have always been this highly advanced secret civilization.
I guess it was one of the few Marvel Knights titles well received enough to get pushed into canon. Got a cartoon adaptation and all. I liked it at the time, but reading the original Jungle Action run, I can see why most fans hate it.
Wakanda is weird as frick, especially givens how Bantu it is in spite of being next To Ethiopia
Actual Africans will punch you if you confuse them for another kind of african
Doom is an anglicization of "Duma or "Douma"
He's a 60s comic book villain, literally just relax dude
>Unless he's a German-Greek Gypsy (Three Gs, I guess it fits) stuck in Slavland
It works, it works very well.
>Pic - he stopped speaking in the third person, he himself admitted that his way of behaving as "Doom" was childish and pathetic, he was reasonable and smug, but still an butthole.
>Now he's back to speaking in the third person, and acting theatrically with throwing childish tantrums.
This is not about Bendis, just pointing out how wearing a costume lowers your IQ by a few thousand.
Your not allowed to say gypsy anymore its a racial slur
Say Romani
Romani has just become the new slur. I call all gyppos Romani, even the Pikeys.
Whatever you say yifto
Slurs don't cause racism, and any culture with a closed language can by definition only have exonyms.
What are you gonna do if I keep saying “Gypsy” you fricking pikey? No one here gives a tinker’s damn about your made up word.
Why can't we say slurs against other white people? Isn't that the whole thing about them?
I say Polack all the time even though that's considered a slur.
>white
What? They are ethnically indian, they don't aknowledge europe as their homeland, they don't consider themselves part of the west or anywhere but the homeland that was stolen from them
indian wouldn't be the right word but they are as related to indians as kurds are to iranians or maybe arabs are to israelites
I just noticed that I have no idea who are Turks "cousins", every other major ethnic group got a "family" but they always felt alone.
Actual Turks are asians. Modern "Turks" are just Greeks, Iranians, Balkans, etc with a schizo identity crisis.
Pretty much this. There isa small chamce that a pure aryan looking turk gets born though
iirc they're part of "altai family"
yeah giving them their land back would be just like Israel in the middle or arabs, they are similar but even before they were expelled they were clearly a different ethnicity and both indians and romanis were aware of that
nevermind how just like the Askhenazi their biggest and most influential group is heavily mixed with europeans and feel closer to their culture than their "brothers" living in other continuents
Who are you talking about the Polish people all the time?
Even they prefer to call themselves gypsies. Romani is just made up nonsense.
>last time it was shown to be above Serbia
was latveria part of yugoslavia and/or austria hungary?
>comic book characters are incosistent
Shocking, truly.
I just wish Doom could go back to crazy Eastern Euro sorcerer-dictator that was brutal, conniving, racist and so power hungry he'd fight Beyonder.
I'm not a fan of this modern "I'm honorable, tolerant against muslims, troons, etc, spineless to be ridiculed on my wedding day" Doom
So are you the new schizo, are we really gonna have a dude whining about Doom not being racist or gypsy enough now
Not OP, but it's more of an issue that they keep making him "nice", if I could describe it most succintly- New Kratos-y, sort of defanged giga predator that just feels neutered with loss of the infecious energy to the character
What if doom was a woman would she fall in love with reed
He falls in love with reed even as a man <3
Anglo people/americans think that gypsies are white for some reason. When in reality they northern indians.
Because they left India over a thousand years ago you absolute tool. The Romani we have in the Angloshpere are phenotypically Bong looking. Not to mention Northern Indians are purer Indo-Europeans/Ayrans than even most West Europeans.
Well in east europe they look like they just came from india.
>Not to mention Northern Indians are purer Indo-Europeans/Ayrans than even most West Europeans.
On the other hand south india is more brown then south USA
Right so you're expecting a character conceived by israeli Americans in NYC in the 1960s at the height of the Cold War to accurately look like a member of the minority Eastern European Romani population for the time, and not the American/Anglo Romani descendants they would have known of in the West? Are you stupid?
This shit is still going...
(British) Utopia had the same problem. And those guys don't have this excuse.
>they would have known of in the West? Are you stupid?
>people doing stupid stuff makes me stupid
Technically arabs, persians, and north indians are seen as white. Every indo-european ethnicity is white. Which the gypsies count in
Irish Travellers have nothing to do with actual gypsies
Someone else thought the same thing interesting
Those are Romani. English Romani are so mixed as frick they look like any other Bongs as they left India over a thousand years ago you absolute tools.
Lmao huge cope. I can tell those are gyppo mutts.
I think the real.reason is that english people.call irish travellers gypsies too.
Those are mixed as frick, they aren't even 30% romani. Pic related are what actual balkan gypsies look like.
>German and Greek ancestry
>Lives in alt-universe Romania
>is a gypsy.
>Romania began as a northern colony of Rome and is plagued with Gypsies (Romani).
I don't see how this all doesn't check out, OP.
Twitter fricking SEETHES that Doom isn't drawn dark brown the way they're doing with Wanda it's hilarious
>Greece had a god complex, and was all-over-the-place, riddled with jealousy
>At the height of ther wealth, esoteric knowledge and worldly power
>Not their neighboring country Rome, with a lineage of dictator manchildren bent on vengeance, ego, and imperical expansion
>I don't understand greco-roman history.txt
Nice quads. You should still have a nice day.
Nice double dubs, but you should still learn
I can guarantee you I've read much more about the Hellenistic era than you. Patter on you little chicken shit poseur.
Both rome and greece did good shit and did lot's of bad shit. Saying that only rome had some sort god complex is stupid.
Last I checked, Greece didn't burn their own epicenter of worldly knowledge or force the Egyptians into submission for power and greed. Who was that again?.. Hmmmm....
No they didn't do that but they,
>let an egocentric ultteahomosexual conquer a dying empire (who also had plans to conquer arabia and western Mediterranean)
>kill each other over the dead ultrahomosexuals empire ultimately destroying it
>beating each other up over the most stupidest thing and acting like jerks to each to each other
But rome outside of what you've said also did:
>Letting proconsules syral shit from provinces and personally ear money from themselves
>were ultracorrupt not being able to defeat Jugurtha because he payed every general that went there
>had killed each other for no reason for a whole century
Also I'm going to remind that pic rel is peak aestetic.
Your pic looks like a far more advanced civilization with a changed culture living in an extremely ancient fortress of their more artistic ancestors
like warhammer40k
9th century rome moment, literally
>Diadochoi ruined Alexander’s empire with their squabbles
>Athens and Sparta were on each other’s throats to the point Sparta allied with Persia to take on Athens, which stole money from the Athenian League to decorate their city
>literally all of Byzantine history
>had a civil war right after WW2 ended
Greeks were always jealous backstabbers within their own ranks. They only come together to push off someone else, then they get back to killing each other. Romans were expansionists, Greeks were more insular.
Oh, my bad, anon. I didn't know you subscribed to the troony textbook version. Proceed!!!
Literally what is incorrect about any of that you shiposting c**t?
homie frick the Turks. Armenia forever
Look, it's just that Americans don't know anything about history or geography. They think that because the USA is one big mashup of etnicities and cultures, Europe must be too.
That's exactly what Europe is, moron
I’m only giving you a (you) because this b8 is just too moronic.
this will be the MCU Doom, some gay in a business suit who will suit up only during the climax battle and his mask will conveniently either be blasted off or he takes it off after wearing it for a scene or two