Is Supreme the best superman comic ever made? Is Alan Moore the greatest comic writer?
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Is Supreme the best superman comic ever made? Is Alan Moore the greatest comic writer?
>Is Supreme the best superman comic ever made?
It's great but it's not Superman. Even if you count it as Superman, it's debatable.
>Is Alan Moore the greatest comic writer?
For my money, he's the greatest cape comic writer ever, which probably stings him terribly, and one of the best comic book writers of all time.
It's a loving tribute to Silver Age Superman and is littered with tons and tons of analogs and references, but has a unique and original twist for all of them. To me, it's Superman.
That said, it's "one of" the greatest Superman comics ever made. Not "the." There's so many different takes on the character and so many different stories that all give you different things. Different ideas, emotions, tones. There's no one "greatest" story. It's a bunch of different stories that are great for different reasons.
Same with Alan Moore. He's one of the greatest comic writers, but not "the" greatest comic writer.
>To me, it's Superman.
Well then you'd be wrong, wouldn't you?
who is "THE" best one then?
There is no "the" best. Just like there's no "best" kitchen utensil. All of them have different purposes for different things.
Red Son is one of the greatest Superman stories of all time, and it's almost the polar opposite of a traditional Superman story. The original Superman film is the downright platonic ideal of what a Superman story is, but it's fairly formulaic, especially by modern standards.
It all depends on the story you want, and what you're in the mood for.
eat shit and die
Ascribing objective standards of quality like "the best" so subjective media is a brainlet take but Samaritan and Busiek blow Supreme and Moore out of the water.
More heartfelt, more consistent, and without the constant undercurrent of authorial manchild salt.
What a bunch of banana oil.
>the constant undercurrent of authorial manchild salt
You mean reader manchild salt.
It's not Superman. Stop this meme.
Supreme is not a Superman expy? Next you'll say Apollo, Mr. Majestic, Omni Man, Gladiator, Hyperion, and Sentry aren't either.
Those aren't Superman comics. The Authority is not a Superman comic. What the frick is wrong with you?
>best ever made
i don't think so but i thought the parts with troll were funny
>alan moore greatest comic writer
certainly one of the greatest. my favs are moore, gaiman, mike cary, remender
Moore is the led zepplin of comics
So he's one of the writers ever?
>Is Supreme the best superman comic ever made?
Debatably
>Is Alan Moore the greatest comic writer?
Frick no. Not even top 10.
>Frick no. Not even top 10.
Give me your top 10 best comic writers right now.
No
That's what I thought.
Chris Claremont 's number 1 no matter how I feel about that, with Lee, Kirby, and Ditko probably making the best argument for displacing him but his X-run really is just that fricking strong, and after that in no particular order, Marv Wolfman, Todd MacFarlane, Walt Simonson, Bill Finger probably doesn't get enough credit for his Batman work, Gaiman's often overrated but I wont deny he probably also deserves a slot, if barely, probably about as much as MacFarlane at least, Jim Shooter gets in for almost the same reasons as Lee on the basis of "His comics were good but his impact on the industry was way more important" just on a far smaller scale.
Moore's Supreme is a nice loveletter to Superman but it fails to capitalize on the concept of the original Supreme, a person who was alright without this power but fundamentally is terrible with it, struggling to try and be a good person and not a ridiculously egotistical butthole, which was an interesting concept even if Liefield didn't always handle it well. At least he wasn't fricking Larsen though who really just turned the character into a parody of the worst of the 90s excesses.
The only writer you named that's anywhere near Moore's level is Gaiman, and Moore is the better comics writer. All the others are significantly less good.
Moore's a shallow shockjock who's career has always been built off being an absolute attention prostitute. Nothing he's ever made other than arguably his Supreme run has any actual soul or anything worthwhile to say. Watchmen was a fricking walking paradox of being too bloated for what it was while also managing to rush its actual plot, probably because Moore was too busy simpering and fence jumping over if he was making a political screed or not, and how much of a moronic shitposter he is in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is fricking infamous.
Like most of the british invasion, he's a schlocky frickboy without any actual value to provide to the mediun on account of being too busy sucking his own reeking hobo wiener.
And yet he shits on all other comic book writers in terms of quality, soul, and entertainment. How did that happen?
Well that's the neat part, he doesn't.
Except he does.
Carl Barks, Mark Retera, Peter Gallagher, Ken Penders, George Herriman, Rick Veitch, Allison Bechdel, Andrew Hussie, Benoît Peeters, Stan Lee
>Frick no. Not even top 10.
Top 10 is better than anything you think is a good comic.
maybe if Moore wrote an ending and the "modern era" art wasn't so crummy.
also its hard to judge it as being good since the majority of the stories are just analogs/updates of older silver age stories.
only DC stuff by the original writer are good about him.
I thought it was just okay. Some of my least favorite Moore, not memorable. Maybe I was missing something.
I actually find the original premise (anti-hero Superman who has a god complex, ego issues and is generally grumpy, but still a good guy who wants to protect people and fight evil) to be pretty interesting.
...but the original run was a fricking mess. Writers changing every six issues, characters showing up and vanishing, a needlessly convoluted plot by the end. Etc.
>...but the original run was a fricking mess. Writers changing every six issues, characters showing up and vanishing, a needlessly convoluted plot by the end. Etc.
It looks like early Image had this kind of problem happened with a number of the books the founders weren't working on but they wanted to make monthly books. Stormwatch, Brigade and Bloodstrike all seemed to keep changing writers and artists as well just to keep them on schedule. But there's definitely something to the original Supreme concept that makes me kind of wish Moore just made his own Superman expy instead of turning Supreme into not-Superman.
Along with ASS yes it is. There are autists who get buttblasted here with the "IT-IT'S LITERALLY NOT SUPERMAN. It's not." They are the most fun at parties and have the most creative imaginations.
Sure, why not?
Anyone got a full list of Supreme’s rogues gallery?
Everyone from his early Image comics to Darius Dax and Emerpus
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