I like it so far. It's not at the same pound for pound quality the original run is but Kelsey Grammer is still quite entertaining as Dr. Crane. His new friends aren't very good but luckily they've sorta taken a backseat recently, it seemed they were gonna be more central initially. Niles and Daphne's son David is ok, maybe a bit too 'bazinga' for the show but he's also barely in it aside from a couple bearable but funny subplots. Freddy is actually pretty good imo. He somehow seems to be both Frasier and Lilith at times and also does a good job channeling Martin, like he's really a Crane boy. But yeah, watch the first 2 episodes and see if you like it.
>Freddy is actually pretty good imo.
I have to disagree, in fact Frasier and Alan are the only characters that are tolerable. Grammer is still good. All the side characters are pretty awful, and the writing is missing something
yeah I think as a character overall and certainly it's not helped by the writing Freddy hasn't been amazing. I just meant that they did a good job casting Freddy imo because he seems to inherit many subtle traits from Frasier, Lilith, and Martin. He'll even sound a little like Martin sometimes.
Alan has been ok. Definitely the better between he and Eve and the school boss lady. I didn't like his 'locked in the wine cellar' bit. But getting the gauntlet stuck on his arm and the white suit and fedora were both funny I thought
>I just meant that they did a good job casting Freddy imo because he seems to inherit many subtle traits from Frasier, Lilith, and Martin.
I really don't see it, he has like one facial expression he makes, he's really one note
This thread is proof that Cinemaphile will swallow any garbage if it has >some old ip that's beloved >a returning cast member
The show is fucking horrible and all it does is try to duplicate the original "Frasier" dynamics with new characters. They should have tried to do something different.
The writers worked on HIMYM and one even had a terrible frasier twitter account, that should be enough of a redflag.
The biggest flaws are the constant jokes with no breaks in between and the cast of younglings. Frasier was mostly a show about grown up people doing wacky things.
>The writers worked on HIMYM and one even had a terrible frasier twitter account, that should be enough of a redflag. >The biggest flaws are the constant jokes with no breaks in between and the cast of younglings. Frasier was mostly a show about grown up people doing wacky things.
this. i felt that too.
it feels like big bang theory or more like fraiser is there as an after thought and the real show is about freddy being a nagger.
Grammar is still fun as Frasier and Nicholas Lyndhurst is good as Alan (Makes sense, he has a lot of sitcom experience), but the rest is a mixed bag. The other characters are growing on me, but outside of Freddy, they don't get a lot of material to play with. It's quite evident in the latest episode, which featured Lilith - Her and Frasier steal the episode, with Freddy along for the ride. Alan holds his own, but the two other younger mains Eve and David just get the odd wacky one liner and Frasier's new boss Olivia only appears in the ending gag. It feels overcrowded for a six-hander.
It's VERY good by modern standards, the idiots expecting it to be as good as the original are morons, there war never any chance of that, the culture is vastly inferior now, it's still very god though, way better than I was expecting.
I can't expect it to be as good as the original because the original (or at least the first seven seasons) was an anomaly even at the time. The cast had great chemistry and they along with the writers and producers were highly talented and had great taste. Good luck finding any of that in the current times where neo-potism is more rampant than ever and with studios filled diversity hires.
I usually write-off most new shit, but I think it has legs, and if given a second season, the new characters (aside from Alan, who's fine already) will grow with time
David is a bit Sheldon-lite, but it's offset by his Daphne-esque good hearted nature, which I think is shown best in the B-plot with Freddy's work friends
Freddy, as anons have said, is mostly a mix of Martin and Lilith, which acts as a good foil to Frasier
Eve is also cynical and self-aware enough that, despite being the 'diverse single mother and widow', she openly takes advantage of that, and it fits the tone of the show
Plus, none of the male characters are forcibly emasculated and the women on the show are as openly flawed as their opposite sex counterparts
It's good, even if it's just a one season epilogue. Give it time
Just go watch the pilot instead of asking a bunch of dimwits what they think. Learn to form your own opinions on things.
I did
Boy, you must get your ass kicked CONSTANTLY.
I like it so far. It's not at the same pound for pound quality the original run is but Kelsey Grammer is still quite entertaining as Dr. Crane. His new friends aren't very good but luckily they've sorta taken a backseat recently, it seemed they were gonna be more central initially. Niles and Daphne's son David is ok, maybe a bit too 'bazinga' for the show but he's also barely in it aside from a couple bearable but funny subplots. Freddy is actually pretty good imo. He somehow seems to be both Frasier and Lilith at times and also does a good job channeling Martin, like he's really a Crane boy. But yeah, watch the first 2 episodes and see if you like it.
>Freddy is actually pretty good imo.
I have to disagree, in fact Frasier and Alan are the only characters that are tolerable. Grammer is still good. All the side characters are pretty awful, and the writing is missing something
yeah I think as a character overall and certainly it's not helped by the writing Freddy hasn't been amazing. I just meant that they did a good job casting Freddy imo because he seems to inherit many subtle traits from Frasier, Lilith, and Martin. He'll even sound a little like Martin sometimes.
Alan has been ok. Definitely the better between he and Eve and the school boss lady. I didn't like his 'locked in the wine cellar' bit. But getting the gauntlet stuck on his arm and the white suit and fedora were both funny I thought
>I just meant that they did a good job casting Freddy imo because he seems to inherit many subtle traits from Frasier, Lilith, and Martin.
I really don't see it, he has like one facial expression he makes, he's really one note
The Freddy actor sounds like he's trying to act like Sheldon from TBBT.
Wasn't interesting or funny enough to watch again.
it's not bad
This thread is proof that Cinemaphile will swallow any garbage if it has
>some old ip that's beloved
>a returning cast member
The show is fucking horrible and all it does is try to duplicate the original "Frasier" dynamics with new characters. They should have tried to do something different.
Kelsey's acting is still good but it's impossible for him to carry the entire cast and bad writing on his back
The writers worked on HIMYM and one even had a terrible frasier twitter account, that should be enough of a redflag.
The biggest flaws are the constant jokes with no breaks in between and the cast of younglings. Frasier was mostly a show about grown up people doing wacky things.
>and one even had a terrible frasier twitter account
What do you mean?
During an interview, one of the writers said he ran a twitter account in which posted jokes that would belong in an episode of the original series.
>The writers worked on HIMYM and one even had a terrible frasier twitter account, that should be enough of a redflag.
>The biggest flaws are the constant jokes with no breaks in between and the cast of younglings. Frasier was mostly a show about grown up people doing wacky things.
this. i felt that too.
it feels like big bang theory or more like fraiser is there as an after thought and the real show is about freddy being a nagger.
Nah, when he became mayor of Chicago was way better.
I wouldn't know.
First four episodes are bad and then it picks up from there.
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>First four episodes are bad and then it picks up from there
Massive cope
wtf are you on, episode 4 is the best one so far
Grammar is still fun as Frasier and Nicholas Lyndhurst is good as Alan (Makes sense, he has a lot of sitcom experience), but the rest is a mixed bag. The other characters are growing on me, but outside of Freddy, they don't get a lot of material to play with. It's quite evident in the latest episode, which featured Lilith - Her and Frasier steal the episode, with Freddy along for the ride. Alan holds his own, but the two other younger mains Eve and David just get the odd wacky one liner and Frasier's new boss Olivia only appears in the ending gag. It feels overcrowded for a six-hander.
Kelseys good. The show isnt.
John Mahoney's rotting aids riddled corpse is better.
Who are you quoting?
the newest ep was an ok farce. had a few chuckles.
What am I looking at? Her twins? Or is son deciding his hetreosexuality?
No
Lateat ep had me laughing throughout
It just came off as forced
It's missing all the elements that made original Frasier good
I say this in every Frasier chad thread. The fact that they are not humiliating the character of Frasier Crane makes it a success.
It's VERY good by modern standards, the idiots expecting it to be as good as the original are morons, there war never any chance of that, the culture is vastly inferior now, it's still very god though, way better than I was expecting.
>It's VERY good by modern standards
That's not a high bar
>there's no way this will be like the original, I'm not watching it
>why do you expect it to be like the original
I can't expect it to be as good as the original because the original (or at least the first seven seasons) was an anomaly even at the time. The cast had great chemistry and they along with the writers and producers were highly talented and had great taste. Good luck finding any of that in the current times where neo-potism is more rampant than ever and with studios filled diversity hires.
I usually write-off most new shit, but I think it has legs, and if given a second season, the new characters (aside from Alan, who's fine already) will grow with time
David is a bit Sheldon-lite, but it's offset by his Daphne-esque good hearted nature, which I think is shown best in the B-plot with Freddy's work friends
Freddy, as anons have said, is mostly a mix of Martin and Lilith, which acts as a good foil to Frasier
Eve is also cynical and self-aware enough that, despite being the 'diverse single mother and widow', she openly takes advantage of that, and it fits the tone of the show
Plus, none of the male characters are forcibly emasculated and the women on the show are as openly flawed as their opposite sex counterparts
It's good, even if it's just a one season epilogue. Give it time