His movie came and went with a whimper, yet he has the gall to act like he's the next fucking Nolan.
Is there a bigger hack in Hollywood than Matt Reeves?
His movie came and went with a whimper, yet he has the gall to act like he's the next fucking Nolan.
The Batman is one of the most cringe movie-watching experiences of my life. Every performance is goofy, its like a saturday night live skit.
Yeah, The Batman wasn't even close to the Nolan trilogy.
I couldn't handle the cringe, and as a Batman fan I felt so embarrassed I left the theater less than an hour into the movie. Tried to watch some scenes at home and it just got worse.
It's awful. Tryhard and longdrawn
What irked me were people going "It's detective Batman".
Fucking looking at shit in a room then mumbling the perfect answer isn't detective work.
It's Rainman movie savant autism.
It's the same as presenting a character as a genius because they magically have all the answers with no showing why they're smart.
His buttbuddy JJ
No, he has no business near a movie set. These guys have always been around btw, the nepo hire or guy who slides by on connections but they at least had a little talent and the crew was more talented back then so they covered it up better
How about yall grow up and stop watching movies made for 12 year olds for a change
I need that gif of Don Draper telling his israeli coworkers "I don't think about you at all"
If sequel is being cancelled. Based James gunn, I prefer him to this trick and his friend JJ
>"The character should always be the emotional center"
I fucking hate artists who feel the need to come up with rules for their art
Yeah, fucking hacks
>Nooo you have to make this movie the way I think, all of the people who made it a critical and commercial success are wrong
twats
I can imagine Nolan not giving two fucks about Reeves, Batman or WB in general anymore.
I haven't watched that movie and I feel so pleased with my decision.
I don't trust any man wearing a bow tie who is not in a tuxedo.
He looks like a total nonce, doesn't he?
Batman Begins Box Office: $371,853,783
The Batman Box Office: $770,962,583
the difference is that in 2005, there hadn't been a Batman movie in almost ten years and that was Batman & Robin. people were skeptical and the concept of the reboot was also pretty much unheard of. The Batman wouldn't have made the money it did if not coming off the heels of Bale and Batfleck Making Batman Great Again (TM)
>the difference is that in 2005, there hadn't been a Batman movie in almost ten years and that was Batman & Robin
in 2022, there hadn't been a solo Batman movie in ten years and that was The Dark Knight Rises
Totally different climate they were released in. Solo Batman movies, as well as Joker, made over a billion since The Dark Knight. Batman Begins came after Batman & Robin, and superhero movies weren't nearly as big at the time as they are now. The Batman underperformed, that is undeniable.
>Batman Begins came after Batman & Robin
And The Batman had to followup Batman V Superman.
Joker followed up Jared Leto from Suicide Squad, yet made over a billion. What's the excuse? The truth is, The Batman had no hype, no word of mouth. No one was raving about the movie.
homosexuals are deluding themselves if they think BvS was received as badly Batman & Robin. The Batman actually grossed less than BvS while Batman Begins grossed higher than B&R that should tell you enough.
BvS is comparable to TASM 2. Sure it damaged the brand but not like Batman & Robin.
WB said The Batman made the company more profit than BvS.
i know it's reddit, but this post show much profit The Batman did in comparison to BVS?MOS
https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/12e2pb0/according_to_deadline_the_batman_2022_made_a/
Yeah. The Batman technically made WB more money, which is why it's getting a sequel.
The profit difference is due to the budget difference which is not relevant to the conversation at hand. We are talking about how much it damaged the brand in the eyes of the audience. More people went to see BvS than The Batman. This isn't to say more people liked it but the negative reaction is nowhere near comparable to B&R. 238 million off of a 160 million budget and a CinemaScore of C+ which is abysmal for a capehsit(only Fant4stic has a worse score). Batman & Robin was a colossal flop and would constantly make "worst films of all time" lists. To say it's even comparable to BvS is asinine.
You are forgetting that the tickets for the Batman had a 20% increase
>haha more money means the movie is good
When you lack brain cells or a good argument.
After inflation it's still less than The Batman, but Batman Begins and TDK helped the hype for The Batman.
>the dark knight rises
>$1.081 billion[4]
Also, the 770M USD claim is hotly disputed.
SOMETHING IN THE WAY UHHHHH
>this will show Nolan
So Matt, pitch me your take on Batman.
>ok, so it's David Fincher's Seven...
>and David Fincher's Zodiac...
>and the obligatory car chase? Blatant ripoff of the climax from Villeneuve's Prisoners...
>but with Batman.
The script he delivered is honestly so bafflingly bad that I don't understand how it was approved by anyone. I wrote better dialogue in elementary school.
Damn, Pattinson really sells this. So much worse on the page.
Paul Dano is usually great but was bad in this movie. I feel like the director is to blame and maybe editor too, like they were trying to make the performance suck.
all the hardboiled voiceover was so tryhard. This movie ends up being sillier than any other "comic book" movie just by trying so hard to be serious that it seems like its about to pop a hemmoroid
I still don't understand how, to this day, there are still people that either fail to see or outright refuse to see that the TDK trilogy is a perfect grand narrative about a boy wanting to live up to his father's legacy, going out into the world to make a name for himself, sacrificing everything that matters to him for something greater, becoming convinced there's no hope for him to be happy, receding into life as a shut-in, then regaining the courage and desire to venture out into the world and live once again. It's the single best arc in any capeshit series and it's not even close.
>we le want to beat the nolan trilogy
Well they didn’t succeed whatsoever. TDK isn’t even better than Batman Begins.
I love this fucking movie.
The dialogue is comic accurate, the atmosphere is comic accurate, the performances are outstanding.
And the plot is so tightly woven. I genuinely don't think there's one mistake in it. Everything makes sense, and it all leads to a great reveal.
Cinemaphile will never convince me this movie is bad.
Don't get the hate for Reeves. I don't think he's ever made a bad movie.
As a lifelong Batman fan, I was finally given what I wanted.
>As a lifelong Batman fan
this is kind of sad
Batman has gotten me through quite a bit.
I would consider my life without the character to be even more sad.
Yeah, it's kino
Snyderjeets in this board keep spamming hate when this movie was a thousand times better received than any of his dceu films kek
I think they're just really bummed about the Batfleck solo movie.
They just can't accept that, with the knowledge of the plot we have, it would have been either mediocre or really bad.
I don't hate Affleck as Batman..
But compared to Pattinson, it's clear that The Batman was the better option.
i liked the detective stuff
it was cool to see batman's process
he fucked up like on Long Halloween and i dug that
affleck would have made an action movie, but not a mystery
Yeah the comic influence is solid.
I counted all the comics that Reeves read, and it totaled more than Nolan and Goyer.
He really knew his shit. As a Batman fan it was nice to see.
Reeves fit more into one movie than Nolan fit in two.
It's, alongside TDK, the best Batman movie we've got.
>Reeves fit more into one movie than Nolan fit in two.
You say that like it's a good thing. Like he actually stuffed in as many things as he could and it wasn't a horrible confused mess of awfulness.
This is the same sort of thinking that got us the Star Wars sequels.
Its a nice mix of Year One, Long Haloween, Zero Year, minor stuff from Earth One, and according to Reeves himself, Batman: Ego
Yeah it really is.
And the comics Pattinson brought to the table were really cool as well.
I need to re-read Earth One, I remember it being good.
>i liked the detective stuff
>it was cool to see batman's process
This is objectively the dumbest that batman has ever been, at least in the movies. Then using the David fincher tiktok filter on the film doesn't change the script. You marketing fags need to kill yourselves.
>objectively the dumbest
batfleck was way dumber
year 20 veteran batman manipulated like a puppet because he was so emotional
you sneeder fags need to objectively grow some brain cells
Yeah, they did make him retarded. He looked great though.
Alfred needed to tell him where to walk, he needed a phone to collect information, hell, Batman didn't even do any detecting.
How does a 20 year detective not know when a villain is literally stringing him along?
I know plenty of comics where Year Two Batman makes a mistake.
I know none where Year Twenty Batman gets played so thoroughly and laughably.
>alfred gets a mail bomb to the face
>survives without any injuries
>riddler has a secret underground network of recruited men who all had themselves dressed in matching clothes
>riddler is an autist but managed to sneak bombs all over towns with men without causing any suspicion
>riddler runs an instagram live channel which somehow radicalizes people and the batman/government doesnt know how to look into it
>batman goes on high speed chase with the penguin, causing plenty of death when he drives off a truck that promptly explodes not long after colliding with other cars in a pile-up
>catwoman is... a skinny dyke looking woman
>Riddler can pinpoint exactly where all his targets are and murder them
>except for Bruce, for some reason he expects a billionaire to open his own mail
Affleck literally loses his mind over hearing a common name kek
This is like when you criticize some garbage microsoft game on Cinemaphile and every balding manlet homosexual in his late 30s starts screeching "SNOYYYY" like a retard
The entire third act of The Batman is the worst written plot in all of capeshit history. It's completely broken and relies on the audience being as retarded as reeves in order to skirt by
you underestimate how retard capeshit can get. there's much worse examplesa2rtdt
Affleck's movie sounded like it would have cool action but a very mediocre story
Deathstroke doesn't work as the main antagonist of a Batman movie, maybe a gun for hire
Also love Pattinson's suit. Gives Arkham Origins vibes.
Exactly. Affleck has the best Batman fight scene, but even his directed movies have weak stories.
Also love the suit. It's between the BvS suit and Pattinson's for me.
It wasn't though...kek.
>comic accurate
That would be the least important part of it, or in fact a thing which does not exist, considering how many phases and eras and writers and artists the character's been through.
>There are too many comics for it to be comic accurate
That actually increases the ability for it to be comic accurate, in more ways than one.
>and it all leads to a great reveal.
What reveal? That Riddler is killing le corrupt politicians? Gee, if you couldn't figure that out from the trailer of the first five minutes then you're fucking retarded. Also a serial killer targeting corrupt authority figures? I haven't seen that a million times before.
His Gayman movie was literally just cheap copy of dark knight
Lindelhof
Goyer
Abrams
Plenty of hackier hacks
I've watched enough videos on The Batman
The director makes pseud goyslop for soja predditors
Netflix Daredevil is better in every way
who dis?
For a second I thought that was Wil Wheaton.
Yeah it's bitch behavior stir up a unnecessary conflict over fucking super hero movies.
Hopefully Nolan ignore this homosexual and leave him to stew in comparing his movie and then having it not live up to the claim.
i thought The Batman was way too long and stylistically owed everything to Fincher and Taxi Driver, but that said it was ok for "mature" capeshit and looked cool. Batman Begins and TDK are still better though
>tfw when you realize that the entire film is a half assed adaptation of Batman Earth One
I'm convinced that this homosexual has never read another Batman comic book other than that one, despite making out like he's a huge fanboy. Particuarly galling because Batman Earth One is a) fucking shit and b) was designed solely to entice normies to start reading capeshit.
He admitted he didn't even know his former teacher wrote The Long Halloween before starting research for the movie. He clearly just knew Batman from the Nolan movies and quickly read a few comics to prepare to make his movie. All these plebs wanking to the idea that this was "the most comic accurate Batman" don't know shit. Batman never walked like this, for starters.
He needed to poop. It's comics accurate.
>Batman never walks in the comics
Jesus, Sneederjeets are desperate, kek.
Also, I love the argument that Reeves isn't a comic reader because he didn't know a teacher he had in the nineties had written a book after he had taken the class.
>to the face
He ducks under a desk.
He obviously had injuries, he want to the hospital.
>Riddler's fans copied his look
Yes, because people who like online creators never try to emulate them...
>with men
He drove some cars to a seawall?
>radicalizes people
I'm sure the people who found it already followed Riddler.
>Batman doesn't know how to look into it
It says in the script that the GCPD needs the FBI to crack anything Riddler does, so Batman would be the number one option.
But he was focused on solving it with real life clues.
>Batman causes-
Boring. Penguin killed those drivers. You see him hit cars, not Batman. Factually incorrect criticism.
>Catwoman looks like a dyke
Batman Year One.
>Except for Bruce
Why would he need to pinpoint Bruce?
Where else would he expect Bruce to be?
He's canonically a notorious recluse.
Did you not watch the movie?
Anything else?
>Why would he need to pinpoint Bruce?
Because he was one of the targets on his kill list.
He could have broken into Wayne Manor and killed him the same way he broke into City Hall and murdered the mayor.
>Broken into Wayne Manor
Riddler had a specific time where there was no security and his family had left.
Bruce never leaves, so Alfred never leaves, and the old ass woman doesn't leave.
He also got it through the ceiling, which he didn't have access to at Wayne Enterprise.
You think he could walk through the front door of the most illustrious building in Gotham?
Again, Bruce is a notorious recluse. Why would he need to pinpoint him, he knows where he perpetually lives.
>City Hall
That was the Mayor's apartment.
Either you prove you even watched the movie, or I don't reply to you anymore.
>the mayor of a major city, one that's especially crime ridden, is unprotected
Already buggering belief
>That was the Mayor's apartment.
I would have said Gracie Mansion but most people don't know what that is.
Retard it LITERALLY had a security guard sitting out front.
That's why Riddler went through the roof!
Did you not watch the movie?
I accept your concession.
I love Night Cries.
Can't tell you who wrote it off the top of my head.
Can tell you that Scott Hampton drew it, but I can't remember who wrote it.
>Erm, obviously *insert name* wrote it!
I don't recall the movie showing how Riddler got into the Mayor's home.
It shows the opening through the ceiling.
I'll have to take your word for it.
>i'm a retard who can't remember something basic like the name of the writer of something I claim to love
I can see why you like The Batman. Can you remember who wrote that one?
>You must remember every little detail of anything you love, which for comic fans, means knowing the writers of every single issue you've ever loved
Sneederjeet schizo hour everyone.
The writer is not every single little detail lmao. If you can't remember who wrote an entire miniseries you "love" then either you have severe learning difficulties or you don't love it all that much. Or, in the case of Matt Reeves, you first skim-read it the day before you started the script.
>It's not a little detail!
>You love the comic because of the characters, the plot, the art, the dialogue, the structure, and the coloring!
>So if you don't know the author of every comic you love then you don't love it!
Sneederjeet schizo hour everyone.
>It's not a little detail!
It's literally on the front cover in massive letters.
>You love the comic because of the characters, the plot, the art, the dialogue, the structure, and the coloring!
I love it sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much I refuse to even glance at who wrote it so I can seek out their other work!!!
>So if you don't know the author of every comic you love then you don't love it
Literally yes. If someone said they loved a novel but didn't know who wrote it, I'd laugh in their face.
>muh snyderfag boogeyman
Snyder is a retarded hack. Reeves is a retarded hack. You're just a retard.
>In big letters
Maybe in the compiled release.
>I refuse to see who wrote it!
When I say anything about refusing?
Maybe you just don't look.
>Literally yes
Literally no.
Not to mention, who said Reeves wasn't reading Batman comics that weren't Long Halloween?
Every Batman fan must read Long Halloween and know who wrote it, or else they're not a Batman fan?
>You're a retard
Nice projection.
>Maybe in the compiled release.
It's the same size on the original issue cover
>Maybe you just don't look.
It's right by the title. If you know the title then you've seen who wrote and drew it unless you have an outright policy to not read anything that isn't word balloons. Also somehow I doubt someone who aspired to be a writer would be completely uninterested in who wrote a comic that he liked.
>who said Reeves wasn't reading Batman comics that weren't Long Halloween?
Maybe he did, who knows. He definitely didn't read The Long Halloween before he signed up to write the script.
>Every Batman fan must read Long Halloween and know who wrote it, or else they're not a Batman fan?
No you still might be a fan of the character through films and cartoons but if you're grown man and you don't know who wrote one of the most famous and well regarded Batman comics of all time then you're probably not fan of Batman comics. It's not some obscure little ditty, it's The Long Halloween.
Wayne Tower is much more protected and secured, along with Bruce being a very isolated figure, the bomb was Riddler's best hope of taking him out.
I got the sense that killing Bruce was more of a bonus, just to satisfy Riddler petty hatred of him
Batman never walks like an autist with his arms stiffly by his sides. Find me a comic panel that shows him doing that.
Can't wait for your cope excuse for this one.
>I didn't look at who wrote a Batman comic I love so that means I don't read comics!
Kek, the cope is unreal.
Left arm is clearly more forward than the right, try to source another cope panel from reddit. You haven't read any of these comics you post, let's face it.
Kek great copium!
Just what I expected.
Here's another, gimme some more.
You're retarded, it's all right.
holy autism, go outside
Autism is sourcing comic panels from reddit so you can prove how "accurate" this shitty movie is. I just debunked them with little effort.
>deboonked
Unironically retardation.
Here's another.
Another one got filtered, ma!
Weird projection.
Are you saying Matt Reeves is too braindead to read a front cover? How did he manage the rest of it?
Retard, if you don't know who wrote The Long Halloween, until you type in "top ten batman stories" into Google for your research, you're not a comic reader. Literally the shallowest of shallow cuts.
And yes, if Reeves had read one of the most acclaimed Batman comics before starting research for the movie, he would have seen his teacher's name on the cover. You clearly have awful fucking taste, because by many accounts, people laughed at how cringe this movie was.
Yeah it looks like most people hated it.
Putting "film buff" in your socials won't make you a real person with a real personality.
The Batman was a fucking horrendous movie. They tried to shovel so much shit in there to make it 6 hours long that "film experts" would be forced to say they liked it because they'll rate anything that's long as good. Batman & Robin mogs The Batman hard.
The TV show Gotham, silly as it was, mogged The Batman hard. It was a strictly better "semi serious" Batman.
The Batman is the worst film ever about Batman. That includes nipple suit and Martha Mom movie. Matt Reeves can go fuck himself. He made a 3 hour borefest about the best comic book character. He's Rian Johnson status to me.
Still better than Fatleck.
true
The Batman was an exhausting watch and the writing just doesn't add up to anything compellingly worthwhile. Also, that cringe as fuck thing Reeves called an ending. Unforgivable.
It's always hilarious to me when Hollywood hacks who live in a bubble think they understand what people like about movies and talk big shit only to have their movies flop.
Isn't the new Batman shit going to be pantifa inspired?
Can't wait for anti-kino
What’s gonna happen now? Are they axing his universe after The Penguin comes out? Nolan had the de facto grounded dark knight, maybe Reeves will have to go the fantastical route?
Nolan made it pretty clear he's not interested in making more capeshit
If Oppenheimer bombs and he has trouble financing another film he might think differently
>nirvana remix of ave maria starts playing