Is there a reason DC is intent on shitting on Batmans greatest run ever?

Is there a reason DC is intent on shitting on Batman’s greatest run ever? Why have they let Snyder and Zdarsky just trash Morrison’s run?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one cares about DC comics.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely think they truly believe Zdarsky is doing a great job. Just like they genuinely believed new 52 was a great idea.

    Jim Lee, Marie javins, Ben Abernathy, Didio when he was there, Nelson when she was there… all of these people are moronic anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean some of New 52 was good. If anything their mistake was not doing a HARDER reboot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jim Lee's position was largely ceremonial when Diane Nelson was installed; Didio and Harrass were largely in control. Those two were responsible for the largest harm that befall DC.

      Nelson's problem was that she didn't do any of the things she was brought in to do and the things that were successes (such as selling the DCW shows to Netflix for $1B plus or the continuing catalogue sales of $400M) had really nothing to do with her 'leadership' but the Time Warner/Warner Communications suits left DC alone because they thought she was doing a good job. So when the initial problems started with the DCEU or other problems arose with Berlanti and the DCW, her being ineffectual wasn't apparent until they needed to get rid of her and they followed that with replacing her with a revolving set of Warner Brothers suits who don't care about the comics, and only care about the characters to the extent that they are exploitable IP because they came from a licensing or similar marketing background.

      Thus, when Lee became the sole publisher, he had to do actual work and his worthlessness and lack of actual practical experience and knowledge, has become readily apparent. Jarvins is a good editor and her problem is that she spends more time and energy bailing water and trying to keep things afloat. Blaming her is like blaming a army captain of a troupe of soldiers in a losing because general's made shitty battle plans directed by civilian politicians with stupid end game goals.

      I don't give enough shit to care about the batbooks to spend any energy analyzing - much less commenting on - Abernathy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Those two were responsible for the largest harm that befall DC.
        Nelson and WB literally told them “do what I/we demand or we kill DC”. Anyone like you ignoring this to throw all the blame at Didio or harras is moronic. Lee was installed as a yes man though, that I agree with, and he’s shown he’s completely incapable of running anything more complex than a lemonade stand.

        >Javins is a good editor
        >Blaming her is like blaming a army captain of a troupe of soldiers in a losing because general's made shitty battle plans directed by civilian politicians with stupid end game goals.
        Everything under her EIC tenure has been marked by overly progressive swings and terrible writing. She’s at best an empty seat, more likely supportive of most of this abject dogshit. But given you likened it to some political screed tells me you actually don’t see that as one of DC’s major problems.

        A good editor would say “no you cannot make Tim drake and Alan Scott bisexual or gay, that ruins a combined 120 years worth of stories, pick another character or make a new one.” Or “no you cannot make Jon kent gay because we’re making him a child again to relaunch super sons under tomasi” or “no you can’t have the batfam and catwoman want to fight batman for the right to teach thieves because that’s absolutely moronic and ACAB/Eat the Rich rhetoric is too divisive”.

        A good editor keeps the bad ideas from getting made. A good editor preserves the characters’ history. A good editor appeals to fans and their demands, not to creatives and their whims.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This anon speaks the truth.

          Blaming empty suits and corporate yes men is ultimately pointless. Their job is just to keep the lights on and the paycheck disbursed on time.

          It's the editors who are there to stop the shit from flowing onto the customer's plate. The writers need wranglers, not friends.

          The writers are like a dog, they just want to eat and shit.
          Jim Lee is the dog owner. He keeps the dog fed and employs the trainers to keep his dog well behaved.
          The editors are the trainers, they teach the dog not to shit on the lawn.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Nelson and WB literally told them “do what I/we demand or we kill DC”
          Can this happen again.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >She’s at best an empty seat, more likely supportive of most of this abject dogshit
          Worst part is, I don’t know which would be worse. But I do think it’s the latter.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DC wouldn't even exist without Warnerbros...they really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    @143831491
    Gr8 b8

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's right. Bad writers are going to write bad stories no matter what, but bad editorial decisions tanked the New 52 before the first script was ever submitted. DC not having the balls to do a full reboot on Batman and Robin and Green Lantern doomed the line from the start.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People need to stop treating Morrison's stuff like it's untouchable. Anyone that writes for Marvel or DC needs to get ready for their stuff to be used by other writers. Good or bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You say this like Morrison is complaining. OP asked why a company would devalue one of its best runs by allowing subsequent writers to shit all over it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All Morrison comics suck

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Half of his comics are good.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We3, Batman, Batman & Robin, first season of TGL, ASS, justice league, flex mentallo, Pax Americana and flash are all great.

          1. Morrison's run isn't making WB money anymore, so when you say devalue you are speaking figuratively only.

          2. Is it really honoring someone's run to never mention it again and essentially treat it like it never happened?

          3. Zdarsky is a much more grounded writer than Morrison, and I'm assuming he took it as a challenge to make sense of Morrison's stuff and explain it to the average 3rd grade educated comic reader.

          4. It's not the subject I'd prefer, but it's not a terrible run. The Joker stuff and origin stuff for him and Batman are nice in my opinion.

          Shut the frick up Abernathy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go molest a cat, Morrison gay

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Go have a nice day gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1. Morrison's run isn't making WB money anymore, so when you say devalue you are speaking figuratively only.

        2. Is it really honoring someone's run to never mention it again and essentially treat it like it never happened?

        3. Zdarsky is a much more grounded writer than Morrison, and I'm assuming he took it as a challenge to make sense of Morrison's stuff and explain it to the average 3rd grade educated comic reader.

        4. It's not the subject I'd prefer, but it's not a terrible run. The Joker stuff and origin stuff for him and Batman are nice in my opinion.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Zdarsky is a much more grounded writer than Morrison,
          That’s not even remotely true when it comes to their batman runs. Grants only got crazy when it was swept into a justice league level event. Zdarsky had him in space and surviving falls that should have left him no more than a puddle of innards.

          >and I'm assuming he took it as a challenge to make sense of Morrison's stuff
          It already made sense.
          >and explain it to the average 3rd grade educated comic reader.
          Yes, yes, you’re so much more intelligent and sophisticated than everyone because you went to community college.
          >It's not the subject I'd prefer, but it's not a terrible run
          It’s absolutely terrible anon. It makes Snyder and tynion look good in comparison which is a wild achievement. Just because it isn’t as bad as king was doesn’t make it good.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wasn't trying to insult you, anon. Do keep in mind most comic readers are actually children

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Do keep in mind most comic readers are actually children
              This hasn’t been true in decades.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly, fear and jealous and delusion. they think they need to be that complicated, realize they can't have the creative volume but think they can match and surpass it.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss Tomasi so much it's unreal.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They know that morons, both who like it and dislike it, will come and read it.
    Morrison's Bat Epic is not that great, though better than what came after.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Morrison is nowhere near Batman's best run.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this run is worse than king's

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing is that bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      let's not get too crazy anon

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DC is run by fricking trolls with abysmal writers. Zdarsky looks depressed and on the verge of offing himself. That man looks dead inside.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DC let Tom King's run for 100+ issues plus mini's. They don't give a frick about anything anymore. Comic books are practically nothing compared to movies that they might as well just be an IP preserve.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that’s why I don’t put any importance on the comics. They only exist to allow WB to use the characters. So technically since WB owns DC, then only what they do with them matters.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's the only thing they know how to do well

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for lulz

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gotta have my Batman.

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