i actually liked it quite a lot. these kind of scenes are only "try hard" if the context doesn't warrant them.
What's so tryhard about it? It's a simple "what's wrong with you, fricker. I see you" to the murderer. Movie is based on true events and at the time of release the murderer hadn't been caught, so the director ended the film on that note because he expected that the real killer would be seeing the movie that was about his deeds.
It's good. Just "meta" in the meme way that stuff like The Murder of Roger Ackroyd or a Kojima video games can sometimes be.
What's so tryhard about it? It's a simple "what's wrong with you, fricker. I see you" to the murderer. Movie is based on true events and at the time of release the murderer hadn't been caught, so the director ended the film on that note because he expected that the real killer would be seeing the movie that was about his deeds.
>There was no possible way for them to know that
Sure there was. Just have the guy from Parasite look at him and he'd know right away he literally says so. Watch the movie before commenting next time fricko
It's obviously intended to be an insult to the murderer, but what if he had just laughed it out?
It just feels like an utter reddit thing to do to "call a murderer out". This is cinema not a twitter reply.
>It just feels like an utter reddit thing to do to "call a murderer out".
Yeah this is what I mean. Still love the film, it's just that last shot feels like something he came up with and "DOOD DOOD WHAT EEEF WHAT EEEF HE DID THE THING BUT AT THE CAMERA DOOD MINDBLOWN TOP 10 ENDING SHOTS OF ALL TIME USING THE MEDIUM OF FILM IN INNOVATIVE SUBVERSIVE WAYS DOOD"
Again, great film. Just kind of a reddit "oh wow you thought you were so clever" moment.
How was it in anyway subversive? The rest of the movie is subversive with its constant criticism of Korean police and institutions. The ending was the least subversive thing in the movie, the ex detective was really for the first time reflecting the feelings of audience from a pure and just perspective. Unless you mean subversive in the sense of making things differently than hollywood movies then i guess but that is most of the time a good thing and regardless we really shouldn't expect non hollywood films to follow hollywood conventions in the first place.
You have brainrot so you associate "subversion" with the terminally online "TLJ subversion of expectations" trend and don't actually know what the word means in an artistic context.
So what do you mean by it if you don't mean either meaning I gave for it? If it's not about subversion in message nor subversive filming technique, then what do you mean by subversive?
>It's obviously intended to be an insult to the murderer
Thats one interpretation, a moronic one but whatever.
I always thought it literally meant as breaking of the fourth wall in order to "look" at the murderer who at that point was assumed to be on the lose.
It works perfectly just knowing that the case wasn't closed and that you could be the next victim for the Koreans who watched it in the cinema
Did Bong ever say he intended it to be him "trying to spot the killer in the audience"? I read it afterwards but i honestly think it's kind of a stupid interpretation of the scene and i didn't see it like that at all.
Huh? It's got nothing to do with the emotion of the movie. It's just a gimmicky oh-so-clever thing. Nothing wrong with it but that's just what it is. Anyway you sound like you've got mental issues and would benefit from going outside once in a while and getting some fresh air.
I very much doubt that Bong was aiming to wow the gimmick loving reddit audience when making Memories of Murder. At the time there were like three people in America aware of Korean film industry being a kino making machine.
Loved it man
I got fricking chills when I saw this scene years before the film became a meme online
This film is just fricking pure kino, I'm not an autist fixated on it but god every time I rewatch it I'm glued to my seat
Pure joy
At least Memories of Murder had some allusion of the main character boasting about his instinct of catching the true killer by looking at them in the eye and having him ultimately failing to do so in a scene before this to give it more weight here. Take The Revenant for example, it uses the same method in the ending scene but it felt meaningless in comparison because it didn't really build up thematically.
There's no meme because even though the director did have a specific intention, the actor's expression is broad enough to be interpreted in several ways, including looking at the horizon or someone else instead of the spectator
Naw, the memories of murder stare into the camera scene is literally perfect. It only became hackneyed when he started inexplicably ending every film like that.
Very kino movie. Bong Joon-Ho is a fantastic director and Sarah Gadon approved.
Almost thought that was a piss stain on her pants
How is that try-hard? Recognize kino when it's given to you
It's good. Just "meta" in the meme way that stuff like The Murder of Roger Ackroyd or a Kojima video games can sometimes be.
What the frick are you talking about? How about you get off the computer and stick your wiener in a blender, that’d be a great meme you piece of shit
i actually liked it quite a lot. these kind of scenes are only "try hard" if the context doesn't warrant them.
What's so tryhard about it? It's a simple "what's wrong with you, fricker. I see you" to the murderer. Movie is based on true events and at the time of release the murderer hadn't been caught, so the director ended the film on that note because he expected that the real killer would be seeing the movie that was about his deeds.
Except he had actually already been caught for a completely different crime so there's no chance he ever saw it lol
There was no possible way for them to know that
>There was no possible way for them to know that
Sure there was. Just have the guy from Parasite look at him and he'd know right away he literally says so. Watch the movie before commenting next time fricko
He actually did see the movie while he was in prison.
>completely different crime
>turns out this guy that raped and murdered his sister in law also raped and murdered 14 other women
It's obviously intended to be an insult to the murderer, but what if he had just laughed it out?
It just feels like an utter reddit thing to do to "call a murderer out". This is cinema not a twitter reply.
>It just feels like an utter reddit thing to do to "call a murderer out".
Yeah this is what I mean. Still love the film, it's just that last shot feels like something he came up with and "DOOD DOOD WHAT EEEF WHAT EEEF HE DID THE THING BUT AT THE CAMERA DOOD MINDBLOWN TOP 10 ENDING SHOTS OF ALL TIME USING THE MEDIUM OF FILM IN INNOVATIVE SUBVERSIVE WAYS DOOD"
Again, great film. Just kind of a reddit "oh wow you thought you were so clever" moment.
>he came up with and
came up with and went*
How was it in anyway subversive? The rest of the movie is subversive with its constant criticism of Korean police and institutions. The ending was the least subversive thing in the movie, the ex detective was really for the first time reflecting the feelings of audience from a pure and just perspective. Unless you mean subversive in the sense of making things differently than hollywood movies then i guess but that is most of the time a good thing and regardless we really shouldn't expect non hollywood films to follow hollywood conventions in the first place.
You have brainrot so you associate "subversion" with the terminally online "TLJ subversion of expectations" trend and don't actually know what the word means in an artistic context.
So what do you mean by it if you don't mean either meaning I gave for it? If it's not about subversion in message nor subversive filming technique, then what do you mean by subversive?
>It's obviously intended to be an insult to the murderer
Thats one interpretation, a moronic one but whatever.
I always thought it literally meant as breaking of the fourth wall in order to "look" at the murderer who at that point was assumed to be on the lose.
It works perfectly just knowing that the case wasn't closed and that you could be the next victim for the Koreans who watched it in the cinema
end of 500 days of summer
if i was korean when this movie came out watching it in theatres it would have made me piss and shid my pants, as it was supposed to.
Did Bong ever say he intended it to be him "trying to spot the killer in the audience"? I read it afterwards but i honestly think it's kind of a stupid interpretation of the scene and i didn't see it like that at all.
I assumed it was something he said but I'm not sure. What was your interpretation?
Huh? It's got nothing to do with the emotion of the movie. It's just a gimmicky oh-so-clever thing. Nothing wrong with it but that's just what it is. Anyway you sound like you've got mental issues and would benefit from going outside once in a while and getting some fresh air.
I fricking hate you PERSONALLY. I kinda want you to die.
Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sexy laaadyyyy
I very much doubt that Bong was aiming to wow the gimmick loving reddit audience when making Memories of Murder. At the time there were like three people in America aware of Korean film industry being a kino making machine.
In tarkosvky movies the characters look at the camera all the fricking time, it's so annoying
He was just trying to impress American redditors with his subversive shots.
i never watched it because asiatics have nothing creatively relevant to say
aside from making the most politically relevant films right now i guess?
uh huh
Loved it man
I got fricking chills when I saw this scene years before the film became a meme online
This film is just fricking pure kino, I'm not an autist fixated on it but god every time I rewatch it I'm glued to my seat
Pure joy
At least Memories of Murder had some allusion of the main character boasting about his instinct of catching the true killer by looking at them in the eye and having him ultimately failing to do so in a scene before this to give it more weight here. Take The Revenant for example, it uses the same method in the ending scene but it felt meaningless in comparison because it didn't really build up thematically.
You fricking brainlet its the most kino shot of all time, the real killer might have seen it, cant get better than that. Thats him btw.
what kino
There's no meme because even though the director did have a specific intention, the actor's expression is broad enough to be interpreted in several ways, including looking at the horizon or someone else instead of the spectator
Naw, the memories of murder stare into the camera scene is literally perfect. It only became hackneyed when he started inexplicably ending every film like that.
Gay comment I know but this one actually took my breath away.