You can't know for sure
Also you can see he's jaded with his life and does it mostly for profit at the beginning of the movie. He's excited by the mystery and the opportunity of it all.
>You read from this book, but you have no conception of its true power. I alone have grasped its secret, I alone have fathomed the master’s grand design, I alone am worthy to enjoy the fruits of that discovery: absolute power to determine my own destiny!
Nothing about being the lord of hell
call me a midwit but in my opinion it was an unspoken rule in the movie that any "magic" or power that happened only happened when the devil does so willingly. corso gets to solve the riddle because the devil lets him/makes him solve it. If she didn't want him to solve it nothing would have happened even with the correct pages and doing everything to a tee
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I think the devil was testing if he was worthy. Otherwise she would help him more
>Don't you sleep nights? >Like a baby. >Strange. I'd have bet a brace of Guttenberg bibles you spent half the night with your eyes peeled. You're one of those lean, hungry, restless types that put the wind up Julius Caesar. Men who stab their friends in the back... not I suspect that you have many friends, do you Mr Corso?
I agreed with you the first time I watched it but I think the movie does establish he's obsessive about knowledge but also ruthlessly ambitious. He just doesn't seem conventionally ambitious like Balkan (very proper, giga wealthy business man).
>He just doesn't seem conventionally ambitious like Balkan (very proper, giga wealthy business man).
i think Balkan gets cucked by the devil because he didn't have the interest and drive to investigate it himself, and rather tried to hire somebody and let money do the work
in the book it's a bit different, it's a horny boomer book and the demon girl just likes Corso, i think he doesn't even open the gates at the end, he just fricks the demon
>i think Balkan gets cucked by the devil because he didn't have the interest and drive to investigate it himself, and rather tried to hire somebody and let money do the work
Yes that's the entire point and the illustrations warn the reader of the rules of the "game"
He doesn't want all of that. He just accidentally be on that journey because Balkan made him do it and it triggers his journey. That intrigue the she-devil himself and that is why it let him frick her in the end, so he can enter the 9th gate.
Actually in the book, you can learn a thing or two about occultism, alchemy, angels, devils, history and that kind of stuff. Im pretty sure Dan Brown used its style to write Da Vinci code
Yeah, all Dan Brown's story is fictional. But Ninght Gate referrs to historical facts. Like, ive never knew that through most of the absolutism, french kings have all of occult advisers even devil worshipers in their entourage. John Dee, first advisor of Queen Elizabeth was also an alchemic. Al Duma's last girlfriend was a witch and devil worshiper too.
nah hes actually really smart, hes just lazy. He could have gone far but he was unmotivated and realised society is a scam so he couldnt be bothered, otherwise hed be really rich etc but he didnt want to contribute to the fake sad system :^)
yes i sometimes forget that everyone here is a troubled genius who would have been magically successful and cool if they were born in literally any other time period
>what are some other movies like this?
not really the same tone as this, as the Ninth Gate has a bit of a wacky mocking tone while keeping the mysterious atmosphere, but movies with similar themes: devil's advocate, angel's heart, the order (2003), some hellraiser movies, or try some other Polanski, even if they are not the same, like Repulsion, not so big fan of Rosemary's Baby but i guess it fits too
there's some theories that Corso was the devil, and the woman the prostitute of babylon helping him remember, but who nose, i don't like that theory that much, but the image could indicate it
What remember from the book about the right most top engraving with "Death" holding the hour glass goes like (extreme paraphrase since it's been 15yrs since I read this) >actually that's not Death. >? >Death holds a scythe. The pitchfork serves a different function: Death reaps, and the Devil harvests.
Never thought about it before as the typical devil pitchfork these days for say cheapo halloween costumes seems to be replaced more often than not with a trident.
>So, did he sell his soul to the Devil after he solve the riddles or what?
there's several theories.
1. he was the devil all along and forgot that he was the devil (that's mainly a Cinemaphile theory as I've seen it)
2. he replaced the devil as the devil (who was sick of being the devil) the adventure was to find someone who was worthy.
3. he gets his wishes granted by the devil for 30 years at which point he gets dragged into hell where he has to curse god for all eternity thus negating any chance at redemption
4. he stands at the right hand of the devil or becomes the antichrist.
why are there missing letters in the words at the bottom of the drawings? was latin written like that or is that supposed to be like a riddle or something?
>why are there missing letters in the words at the bottom of the drawings?
in order to write latin they'd have to occupy entire pages for the captions. so the latin was abbreviated so it could fit under the picture.
>that's so badass
he is cool, but not really badass, he gets his ass whooped a couple of times and a girl has to save him, he is more of a dark nerd than an action hero
the ending should have been different
and I dont mean the final ending, the gate to hell
I mean the last finding of the last engraving
>she tells him the portugese bros have it >he goes there and they are there just as they were the last time >now he has to either convince them >trick them >or use torture so that they tell him the truth >one of those fits more than others >Corso is not a good guy in the story, is he? >he gets the 9th engraving and opens the 9th gate
>>he goes there and they are there just as they were the last time >>now he has to either convince them
did you miss that they were ghosts? they were already dead the first time he went there
Don't know this business about being ghosts, but they were certainly angels, guarding and hindering. They're the ones that took it upon themselves to alter the copies of the 9Gates to make it difficult for anyone from ever solving the riddle.
Look at the engravings: one of the ash brothers is the representative of Diving Retribution in the archer pointing at the bridge and anyone that would cross it. Corso is warned by the falling scaffolding etc., but perseveres regardless.
the tradesmen at the end of the movie say that the shop has been closed for years, though it may have been said in spanish so maybe it's not clear in english, kek
the tradesmen at the end of the movie say that the shop has been closed for years, though it may have been said in spanish so maybe it's not clear in english, kek
CORSO pauses in the doorway and surveys the interior. The hand
press has disappeared and the floor is littered with debris. Pale
rectangular patches on the grey walls indicate where counters and
cabinets have been ripped out.
TWO SPANISH WORKMEN are busy detaching an old cabinet from the
wall with an electric screwdriver.
CORSO: Oiga!
He has to repeat himself before they interrupt their activities.
1ST WORKMAN: Seftor?
CORSO: Los Hermanos Ceniza?
1ST WORKMAN: Los Ceniza? (glances at the 2ND WORKMAN): Est&n
muertos.
CORSO: Como muertos? Quando?
1ST WORKMAN: Oh, hace anos, anos.
CORSO: ANOS?!
The 2ND WORKMAN comes over, wiping his hands on his apron.
2ND WORKMAN: Ingles?
CORSO: Americana.
2ND WORKMAN (as if that explained everything): Ah... They dead,
many years.
CORSO (more and more puzzled): But they were here not long ago -
I spoke with them.
The 2ND WORKMAN looks at his colleague, shrugs and chuckles as if
to convey that Corso is crazy, like most foreigners.
>>he goes there and they are there just as they were the last time >>now he has to either convince them
did you miss that they were ghosts? they were already dead the first time he went there
I had a chance to go to Spain for business nearly 10yrs ago and took the chance to visit Toledo because of this film.
It was in August I think, so like in most of Europe everything was closed and mostly empty and so it was hot and spooky just like how the Toledo section of the film has Corso basically the only person wandering the streets.
Maybe it's like that all the time, dunno.
>It was in August I think, so like in most of Europe everything was closed and mostly empty and so it was hot and spooky just like how the Toledo section of the film has Corso basically the only person wandering the streets.
usually everything closes down from 13:00 to 17:00 or 18:00 because it's too hot to do anything
Unrelated Cinemaphile question. Depp wears a coat the whole movie and it fits him perfectly. But no matter how many times I try to buy a matching coat I look like a picreleted. It's not a height, Depp is 5'9 and i'm 5'11.
Questions on the effayness of the coat in question aside style wise, coats should be scaled in terms of length:
The shorter you are, the shorter the coat should be and the taller you are the more leeway there is for wearing something ankle length. Manlets should avoid at all costs coats that go below the knees because it cuts the amount of length shown below and gives the illusion that you have really short legs making you look even shorter.
At best you should look for a coat that ends mid-thigh, or if it's a trench/rain coat then above the knees but no more.
Tallgays should avoid the really short coats because it'll make you look all leg and daddylonglegs like and disproportionately lanky but they can get away with the old style trench/overcoats/greatcoats that actually offer splash protection from above the shoes and up. Get a shorter coat.
Depp had a professionally tailored coat. You're buying off the rack. so you'll probably have to have the sleeves hemmed. They're also cut so that you can wear them over a suit coat which can make an overcoat look a bit baggy when worn over more casual dress. I have one with padded shoulders that I like because it retains the same shape regardless of what i'm wearing underneath.
It's one of the comfiest. I wish I could find similar movies. Angel Heart just doesn't work as well. The mystery is basically thrown away when DeNiro's character says his name.
Im sorry if this is a stupid question but I noticed in a few scenes the view out of the window looks fake but I don't think it's CGI and it moves so it's not a photograph they stuck to the windows. It looks like an image being projected but idk how that would work. Any idea what is going on here?
It's actually standard procedure for old books and documents to be handled with bare hands. As long as your hands are clean, they will transmit little in the way of contaminants that would damage the material, and by wearing gloves you have impeded sensory feedback when holding pages which risks damaging them by pushing or pulling too hard.
Ultimately, they would have the Mona Lisa and other expensive paintings stored away from light and air and show the public a reproduction so close to the real one it uses computer guided painting.
Why waste a book with smoke and hands. Because it has to metastasize a relationship with the laws of time to connect with the person(s), no fakes.
>Im sorry if this is a stupid question but I noticed in a few scenes the view out of the window looks fake but I don't think it's CGI and it moves so it's not a photograph they stuck to the windows. It looks like an image being projected but idk how that would work. Any idea what is going on here?
it was filmed in Europe because the director can't set foot in the USA. So that's a green screen or projection.
This film and the novel made me want to get into collecting rare books.
Then reality hit that I, then, had no money for a very expensive pursuit and I live in a very humid country which destroys books.
Hello Mr. Corso, I have some rare books I would like to sell. Youre interested? Great. I can bring my Kindle to you right aw- Huh, he hung up. Must be bad reception.
>this rare pepe dates back from 2009, vintage /b/ summer harvest, relevant information may be found in Antoine Martin del Rio's 'Disquisitionum Pepicarum', Louvain 2013, and earlier, in 2012, in 'De la grenouillemanie des sorciers' by the Frenchman, Jean Bodin...
My one problem with this movie is for a movie about "Satanic Imagery" the illustrations in the book are REALLY tame. Like other movies did a way better job at 'cursed imagery'
>my one complaint with this movie was the drawings werent disturbing enough.
well you're talking about something that was supposed to be made in the 1600s. different people different mentality.
The illustrations aren't meant to be Satanic, just hints at unlocking the gate.
Remember that the 9 Gates is a human interpretation of the Delomelonicon or whatever the frick it was called, which was directly penned by Lucifer himself and that the engravings in Tochia's work were also versions he did taking inspiration from the original source work, which could be as hellish, literally, as you could imagine. Or it could be so weird and beyond human understanding hence why it's mentioned that Torchia wrote the 9Gates/Doors "with help from the master" to make it make sense to the mortal mind.
regarding depp's roles, i just watched secret window and i could smell stephen king's shitty old man breath in every single thing that happens and is said in it
it's watchable only due to depp
I recommended to my fairly conservative dad offhand one day because he's into books and the occult n shit. I forgot there was a fully nude frick scene with Satan. We'll see how it does.
It's up there
>Are you a religious man, Mr. Corso?
>I believe in my percentage.
>suddenly wants to be the lord of hell
Doesn't fits with his character
Its about knowledge and enlightment or some shit
He wanted to solve the mystery, moron
No, he already knew what were the pages for
he wanted to see
You can't know for sure
Also you can see he's jaded with his life and does it mostly for profit at the beginning of the movie. He's excited by the mystery and the opportunity of it all.
>You read from this book, but you have no conception of its true power. I alone have grasped its secret, I alone have fathomed the master’s grand design, I alone am worthy to enjoy the fruits of that discovery: absolute power to determine my own destiny!
Nothing about being the lord of hell
Balkan didn't gets it, that's why the ritual fails on him
call me a midwit but in my opinion it was an unspoken rule in the movie that any "magic" or power that happened only happened when the devil does so willingly. corso gets to solve the riddle because the devil lets him/makes him solve it. If she didn't want him to solve it nothing would have happened even with the correct pages and doing everything to a tee
I think the devil was testing if he was worthy. Otherwise she would help him more
>Don't you sleep nights?
>Like a baby.
>Strange. I'd have bet a brace of Guttenberg bibles you spent half the night with your eyes peeled. You're one of those lean, hungry, restless types that put the wind up Julius Caesar. Men who stab their friends in the back... not I suspect that you have many friends, do you Mr Corso?
I agreed with you the first time I watched it but I think the movie does establish he's obsessive about knowledge but also ruthlessly ambitious. He just doesn't seem conventionally ambitious like Balkan (very proper, giga wealthy business man).
>He just doesn't seem conventionally ambitious like Balkan (very proper, giga wealthy business man).
i think Balkan gets cucked by the devil because he didn't have the interest and drive to investigate it himself, and rather tried to hire somebody and let money do the work
in the book it's a bit different, it's a horny boomer book and the demon girl just likes Corso, i think he doesn't even open the gates at the end, he just fricks the demon
>i think Balkan gets cucked by the devil because he didn't have the interest and drive to investigate it himself, and rather tried to hire somebody and let money do the work
Yes that's the entire point and the illustrations warn the reader of the rules of the "game"
Balkan wanted power, Corso knowledge just like Lucifer did. That's why he's worthy(?)
He doesn't want all of that. He just accidentally be on that journey because Balkan made him do it and it triggers his journey. That intrigue the she-devil himself and that is why it let him frick her in the end, so he can enter the 9th gate.
His character steals and wanted to screw that b***h. So yeah
Polanski's wife was kino in it.
Are there any other films like this or Angel heart or Fallen?
This movie was such a disappointment. Someone should take the premise and make a good movie about it.
starring Idris Elba as Corso and Sydney Sweeney as the girl.
It's like dumb action slop for intellectuals.
Not actually smart in any way but the hero is a fricking book detective.
Actually in the book, you can learn a thing or two about occultism, alchemy, angels, devils, history and that kind of stuff. Im pretty sure Dan Brown used its style to write Da Vinci code
Nothing about Dan Brown is smart either.
Yeah, all Dan Brown's story is fictional. But Ninght Gate referrs to historical facts. Like, ive never knew that through most of the absolutism, french kings have all of occult advisers even devil worshipers in their entourage. John Dee, first advisor of Queen Elizabeth was also an alchemic. Al Duma's last girlfriend was a witch and devil worshiper too.
youre in a throwaway thread on a Cinemaphile tv board. nothing here is 'le smart', you smartphone addled moron
nah hes actually really smart, hes just lazy. He could have gone far but he was unmotivated and realised society is a scam so he couldnt be bothered, otherwise hed be really rich etc but he didnt want to contribute to the fake sad system :^)
yes i sometimes forget that everyone here is a troubled genius who would have been magically successful and cool if they were born in literally any other time period
I like the book and the drawings
Frick you guys now I want to watch the movie but did it a million times, what are some other movies like this?
>what are some other movies like this?
not really the same tone as this, as the Ninth Gate has a bit of a wacky mocking tone while keeping the mysterious atmosphere, but movies with similar themes: devil's advocate, angel's heart, the order (2003), some hellraiser movies, or try some other Polanski, even if they are not the same, like Repulsion, not so big fan of Rosemary's Baby but i guess it fits too
Great taste there, Angel's heart is the only I miss there, will check thanks
>what are some other movies like this?
based film. any others? i've seen this as well...
medieval engravings are comfy too
solving these riddles was peak comfy
so corso was a dragon?
there's some theories that Corso was the devil, and the woman the prostitute of babylon helping him remember, but who nose, i don't like that theory that much, but the image could indicate it
What remember from the book about the right most top engraving with "Death" holding the hour glass goes like (extreme paraphrase since it's been 15yrs since I read this)
>actually that's not Death.
>?
>Death holds a scythe. The pitchfork serves a different function: Death reaps, and the Devil harvests.
Never thought about it before as the typical devil pitchfork these days for say cheapo halloween costumes seems to be replaced more often than not with a trident.
So, did he sell his soul to the Devil after he solve the riddles or what?
>So, did he sell his soul to the Devil after he solve the riddles or what?
there's several theories.
1. he was the devil all along and forgot that he was the devil (that's mainly a Cinemaphile theory as I've seen it)
2. he replaced the devil as the devil (who was sick of being the devil) the adventure was to find someone who was worthy.
3. he gets his wishes granted by the devil for 30 years at which point he gets dragged into hell where he has to curse god for all eternity thus negating any chance at redemption
4. he stands at the right hand of the devil or becomes the antichrist.
why are there missing letters in the words at the bottom of the drawings? was latin written like that or is that supposed to be like a riddle or something?
>why are there missing letters in the words at the bottom of the drawings?
in order to write latin they'd have to occupy entire pages for the captions. so the latin was abbreviated so it could fit under the picture.
Nothing beats the originals
only the first hour
depp has a lot of bad but comfy films
what's his best flim?
Half of those suck
fear and loathing, or ninth gate
dead man
Pirates, ninth gate, rear window
All his movies are kino but the best one is obviously Rango
Ed Wood easily
everything in top row, though i'd switch POTC with Dead Man, it reeks too much of art school for my taste
is he smoking a cigarette?
that's so badass
Actually it really looks badass
No, looks weak and scared
>that's so badass
he is cool, but not really badass, he gets his ass whooped a couple of times and a girl has to save him, he is more of a dark nerd than an action hero
Also he get to frick the cute demon girl
Bitter Moon by Polanski
The mumbo jumbo scene always makes me laugh.
gets me every time
>MUMBO JUMBO! MUMBO JUMBO!
XD
the ending should have been different
and I dont mean the final ending, the gate to hell
I mean the last finding of the last engraving
>she tells him the portugese bros have it
>he goes there and they are there just as they were the last time
>now he has to either convince them
>trick them
>or use torture so that they tell him the truth
>one of those fits more than others
>Corso is not a good guy in the story, is he?
>he gets the 9th engraving and opens the 9th gate
>>he goes there and they are there just as they were the last time
>>now he has to either convince them
did you miss that they were ghosts? they were already dead the first time he went there
What indicates that they were ghosts? It's been a couple years since I last saw it.
Don't know this business about being ghosts, but they were certainly angels, guarding and hindering. They're the ones that took it upon themselves to alter the copies of the 9Gates to make it difficult for anyone from ever solving the riddle.
Look at the engravings: one of the ash brothers is the representative of Diving Retribution in the archer pointing at the bridge and anyone that would cross it. Corso is warned by the falling scaffolding etc., but perseveres regardless.
the tradesmen at the end of the movie say that the shop has been closed for years, though it may have been said in spanish so maybe it's not clear in english, kek
https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/theninthgate.html
140. TOLEDO: CENIZA BROS. WORKSHOP INT/DAY
CORSO pauses in the doorway and surveys the interior. The hand
press has disappeared and the floor is littered with debris. Pale
rectangular patches on the grey walls indicate where counters and
cabinets have been ripped out.
TWO SPANISH WORKMEN are busy detaching an old cabinet from the
wall with an electric screwdriver.
CORSO: Oiga!
He has to repeat himself before they interrupt their activities.
1ST WORKMAN: Seftor?
CORSO: Los Hermanos Ceniza?
1ST WORKMAN: Los Ceniza? (glances at the 2ND WORKMAN): Est&n
muertos.
CORSO: Como muertos? Quando?
1ST WORKMAN: Oh, hace anos, anos.
CORSO: ANOS?!
The 2ND WORKMAN comes over, wiping his hands on his apron.
2ND WORKMAN: Ingles?
CORSO: Americana.
2ND WORKMAN (as if that explained everything): Ah... They dead,
many years.
CORSO (more and more puzzled): But they were here not long ago -
I spoke with them.
The 2ND WORKMAN looks at his colleague, shrugs and chuckles as if
to convey that Corso is crazy, like most foreigners.
1ST WORKMAN: Disculpe.
>shrugs and chuckles as if to convey that Corso is crazy
I had a chance to go to Spain for business nearly 10yrs ago and took the chance to visit Toledo because of this film.
It was in August I think, so like in most of Europe everything was closed and mostly empty and so it was hot and spooky just like how the Toledo section of the film has Corso basically the only person wandering the streets.
Maybe it's like that all the time, dunno.
>It was in August I think, so like in most of Europe everything was closed and mostly empty and so it was hot and spooky just like how the Toledo section of the film has Corso basically the only person wandering the streets.
usually everything closes down from 13:00 to 17:00 or 18:00 because it's too hot to do anything
Early august is usually the end of the tourist season or you might have just been there during a siesta
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eat your chicken wings
Unrelated Cinemaphile question. Depp wears a coat the whole movie and it fits him perfectly. But no matter how many times I try to buy a matching coat I look like a picreleted. It's not a height, Depp is 5'9 and i'm 5'11.
You’re just a homosexual. Incurable I'm afraid.
Questions on the effayness of the coat in question aside style wise, coats should be scaled in terms of length:
The shorter you are, the shorter the coat should be and the taller you are the more leeway there is for wearing something ankle length. Manlets should avoid at all costs coats that go below the knees because it cuts the amount of length shown below and gives the illusion that you have really short legs making you look even shorter.
At best you should look for a coat that ends mid-thigh, or if it's a trench/rain coat then above the knees but no more.
Tallgays should avoid the really short coats because it'll make you look all leg and daddylonglegs like and disproportionately lanky but they can get away with the old style trench/overcoats/greatcoats that actually offer splash protection from above the shoes and up. Get a shorter coat.
Depp had a professionally tailored coat. You're buying off the rack. so you'll probably have to have the sleeves hemmed. They're also cut so that you can wear them over a suit coat which can make an overcoat look a bit baggy when worn over more casual dress. I have one with padded shoulders that I like because it retains the same shape regardless of what i'm wearing underneath.
>puts a whole tv dinner with box into microwave
the struggle to be a human bean
Do American really?
>>puts a whole tv dinner with box into microwave
that's to show he doesn't give a frick and is merely existing
*laughs in Monster Squad*
It's one of the comfiest. I wish I could find similar movies. Angel Heart just doesn't work as well. The mystery is basically thrown away when DeNiro's character says his name.
Im sorry if this is a stupid question but I noticed in a few scenes the view out of the window looks fake but I don't think it's CGI and it moves so it's not a photograph they stuck to the windows. It looks like an image being projected but idk how that would work. Any idea what is going on here?
i don't know, but it looks like the "rear projection" trick they do in cars sometimes in old movies, or this thing in Eyes Wide Shut:
thanks
*blows smoke on your 1 of a kind book*
>*blows smoke on your 1 of a kind book*
>touches a million dollar book with his bare hands and doesn't wear protective gloves
pass me the rare book bro
It's actually standard procedure for old books and documents to be handled with bare hands. As long as your hands are clean, they will transmit little in the way of contaminants that would damage the material, and by wearing gloves you have impeded sensory feedback when holding pages which risks damaging them by pushing or pulling too hard.
Ultimately, they would have the Mona Lisa and other expensive paintings stored away from light and air and show the public a reproduction so close to the real one it uses computer guided painting.
Why waste a book with smoke and hands. Because it has to metastasize a relationship with the laws of time to connect with the person(s), no fakes.
>Im sorry if this is a stupid question but I noticed in a few scenes the view out of the window looks fake but I don't think it's CGI and it moves so it's not a photograph they stuck to the windows. It looks like an image being projected but idk how that would work. Any idea what is going on here?
it was filmed in Europe because the director can't set foot in the USA. So that's a green screen or projection.
This film and the novel made me want to get into collecting rare books.
Then reality hit that I, then, had no money for a very expensive pursuit and I live in a very humid country which destroys books.
Porn makes ma want to frick b***hes
Hello Mr. Corso, I have some rare books I would like to sell. Youre interested? Great. I can bring my Kindle to you right aw- Huh, he hung up. Must be bad reception.
>this rare pepe dates back from 2009, vintage /b/ summer harvest, relevant information may be found in Antoine Martin del Rio's 'Disquisitionum Pepicarum', Louvain 2013, and earlier, in 2012, in 'De la grenouillemanie des sorciers' by the Frenchman, Jean Bodin...
Kek, it's posts like these that justify this entire board.
yeah that along with frantic are just ridiculously comfy. The hunt for red October is up there for me as well.
My one problem with this movie is for a movie about "Satanic Imagery" the illustrations in the book are REALLY tame. Like other movies did a way better job at 'cursed imagery'
my one complaint with this movie was the drawings werent disturbing enough. This shit from the 2004 Manchurian Candidate remake is creepier than this
>my one complaint with this movie was the drawings werent disturbing enough.
well you're talking about something that was supposed to be made in the 1600s. different people different mentality.
The illustrations aren't meant to be Satanic, just hints at unlocking the gate.
Remember that the 9 Gates is a human interpretation of the Delomelonicon or whatever the frick it was called, which was directly penned by Lucifer himself and that the engravings in Tochia's work were also versions he did taking inspiration from the original source work, which could be as hellish, literally, as you could imagine. Or it could be so weird and beyond human understanding hence why it's mentioned that Torchia wrote the 9Gates/Doors "with help from the master" to make it make sense to the mortal mind.
the devil is seductive, if he showed medieval pictures of people being eaten alive to try to seduce them, he wouldn't harvest any souls
Secret Window is comfy too. He's even in his robe for most of the movie.
Ok playing it now in the kenoplex
Only the first hour or so, even that was made slightly non-comfy by a foreplay scene.
regarding depp's roles, i just watched secret window and i could smell stephen king's shitty old man breath in every single thing that happens and is said in it
it's watchable only due to depp
Arsenic-laced books removed from National Library of France
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68900682
muh 1 of a kind keno book
I recommended to my fairly conservative dad offhand one day because he's into books and the occult n shit. I forgot there was a fully nude frick scene with Satan. We'll see how it does.