I haven't seen it, but I don't doubt that it's horrible. But there are so many utterly horrible movies pumped out by major studios that there's just no way it's bad enough to be the worst.
Also, the first Ghostbusters is so fucking overrated. It's not a bad movie by any means but it's also not great by any means. Just a solid okay movie with a cool concept. While I'm at it, Bill Murray is overrated too.
Did Trump Worship Syndrome really fuel the hate this movie got?
Not saying it's a good or even decent movie, just saying people here really freaked out about it for some reason
Movies like this don't exist because someone thought it would be interesting to explore female equivalents of male heroes, or because their genuine interest in the universe made them want to expand it and they incidentally picked all women with zero ulterior motives. It was because something successful was boys and they wanted to take it and make it girls. They hate that things are "male dominated" despite the reason for that being that women find those things pathetic and associate them with ugly, low-value men. That's literally the only reason the concept of nerds exists in the first place. Sexist women.
Then when those low-value men cultivate things that make gajillions of dollars and they enter the mainstream, women pretend they were into it the entire time and it was just those horrible evil incel men who were gatekeeping them. See video games, anime, and comic book culture for indisputable proof. Then the woke crowd wants to prove otherwise, but can't because they don't actually give a shit about these IP's or their respective mediums. So they're completely incapably of creating their own and proving they give a shit. So their only option is to steal and cry "bigot" to any criticism.
>Megacorps want to take away things you like and give them to other groups!
An idiot somewhere in the company hierarchy convinced himself that "Ghostbusters mixed with Bridesmaids" would make bank, and there was less resistance to the idea than there were to other ideas for reboots.
Hell Bill Murray probably got a kick out of going "oh, sure, make THIS one!" after shooting down decades of pitches, knowing he was looking at a steaming log that would poison the well.
I almost wonder if Murray agreed to this because he thought it would kill the franchise. The 2013 videogame was the 3rd movie as far as I'm concerned, it had the original cast working on a new threat, story was even written by Ackroyd and Ramis.
He was threatened with legal action according to the Sony leaks. But I also imagine he might have agreed to be in shitshow just to kill the series from ever coming back.
Threatened with legal action again, paid a ton of money, or maybe because it was directed by the son of the original director. It doesn't matter really.
>Then when those low-value men cultivate things that make gajillions of dollars and they enter the mainstream, women pretend they were into it the entire time and it was just those horrible evil incel men who were gatekeeping them
This
Pretty much, yeah. People were hating on it before it was even released.
Gamergate was a weird fucking time man. I knew the Recession was going to bring us a generation of whiny little shits, but fuck me was that something else.
I don't think so. It was legitimately really bad, and you could see pretty clear indicators of that in the trailers. There WAS some culture war bullshit in the leadup, with people falling into sides for extreme attack or defense before it was even out, but I don't see Trump as having a hand in that. And once it was out, well hell, any real defense of the turd died basically overnight.
Nah, it was just a really bad reboot of a franchise that should have been easy to reboot.
No, it really is quite shit. I've seen worse, but not many worse from big studios. And I went in VERY willing to give it a chance, thinking "I bet the backlash is just from weirdo incels, it's probably decent but not great." I mean people back in the day assumed that Ghostbusters Extreme would be dire because it had a diverse cast, and the show was fine, even great at points. 2016, though? It was shit.
I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. It's biggest crime is that it's unoriginal and two of the stars lack the charisma of their original counterparts.
This isn't a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination, it's just not nearly as good as the original.
>I don't know how you can say that with a straight face.
It was painfully unfunny, the pacing was awful, the plot was a mess, and the characters were unlikable as individuals while having poor chemistry as an ensemble, constantly stepping on one another's toes. I also didn't like the "nods" to the original, and found the designs of the ghosts pretty poor. It just was a mess of a movie that didn't know what it wanted to be, handing us scenes like the characters bumbling around one minute and then going "actually Holtzmann is a two-gun-wielding sharpshooter badass!" the next. It was a very bad movie. If you disagree, cool, it'd be a boring world if we all agreed on everything. But I went in going "I want to let this generation have a chance to have their own Ghostbusters, I'm rooting for this, I want it to be good!" and walked out going "holy SHIT that was bad."
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I mean I'm only 40 minutes in, but I don't find any of that to be my experience.
Also I dig the ghosts.
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Leslie Jones ain't bad. The bad guy is a bit dull though.
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You're either larping as a retard or retarded.
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No, I'm just capable of restraint. I can understand how that would look strange to a board of histrionic drama queens.
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Wow, I would have never guessed. I'm glad they added this extra page.
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His book was the coolest part of the movie
Almost wish we got a release
>it's not bad
You're not watching it then because it's fucking awful. There is not a single quiet moment in the entire 2 fucking hours of it. It felt like 5.
Pretty much, yeah. People were hating on it before it was even released.
Gamergate was a weird fucking time man. I knew the Recession was going to bring us a generation of whiny little shits, but fuck me was that something else.
I think Gamergate is stealing your stairs muffin.
Here's a brief history of why 2016 became hated:
Ghostbusters 2016 started out as a teaser with no info on anything other than it would be a new movie. People were excited. Then it was announced that it would be all women. People were wondering what about the original cast and how they would tie into this. The studio couldn't decide if it was a sequel or a reboot, then said it was totally separate from the previous films. Ernie Hudson even called them out on that saying to either tie it to the other films, or why even call it a Ghostbusters movie?
Then people got upset with the lack of info, and Paul Feig taunted them. They posted a photo of the movie crew on Twitter to show how it's almost all women, then people pointed out it's all non-black women except for like 3 of them. From here on, any criticism was referred to as being done exclusively by women-hating incels. If you don't watch this film, you hate women!
Then the Sony email leaks came out, and people found out that the original cast would be forced to be in this film no matter what, like threatening Bill Murray with legal action if he didn't appear. This was to make fans of the series want to see the film, no other reason. Trailers came out, the CGI was horrible and made fun of, women-hating incels were to blame.
They shoot proton beams at a representation of the franchise’s logo in the dick. The messaging was quite clear.
was one of those leaks that people were not happy about.
Then came the media tour. Melissa McCarthy said on Letterman or Fallon or whatever that they got a lot of hate on this movie, but those people were all men living in their mother's basements - audience laughed, original cast sighed and smiled along. Angry Videogame Nerd said he wouldn't see the film, he was also called a woman-hating incel.
Enjoy the Reddit spacing, 2016 could have been a decent film if they got a better director that didn't just use the same core cast for everything he does.
Plenty of others in this thread discuss the movie. I'm giving you the history of the movie's initial impact. I made it through about 30 minutes of the movie before turning it off.
Yeah basically, goobergate kiddies were awakened to be "politically active" (complain about women and minorities online) some of them are still going at it to this day lmao
2016 Ghostbusters is just another example of women coasting on the effort of men. As they’ve done throughout ALL of human history. And people just got tired of feminism taking, never giving men anything back, and watching them call men “manchilds” for refusing to accept the abuse.
Women just aren't funny enough to carry a franchise like Ghostbusters so they have to inject all of their women's griping and politics into it thus ruining the entire premise with shit that nobody wanted to see.
The fag director was too weak and pathetic to keep them in line so massive parts of the movie are ad-libbed by people who don't have the skills to carry it off so the result is a jumbled mess.
People are tired of seeing women in roles that they aren't suitable for and it's seeping out into real life and having catastrophic results for society.
>watch terrible movie >tricked by the israelites into watching demoralization propaganda
vs >don't watch terrible movie >have no basis to call it terrible even though it's clearly a 90-minute SNL skit with a director that sucks dick for cock
quite a conundrum
not worst in terms of production values, writing or even the acting
but it's in the top 5 for most misguided and mismanaged blockbuster productions EVER
it's misguided because the studio wanted to make a all-girl ghostbusters movie but they hired a writer/director that wanted to make a sci-fi version of Bridesmaids
director was in way over his head and couldn't manage production or the budget of the set pieces, they spent millions on a giant dance routine that they had to cut for time
dude was known for allowing actors to extensively improv, but he's not a good enough director to reign it in when scenes started going off the rails so in every scene all 4 actors are fighting over who gets to be the funny Venkman character and the character dynamics are all off
that's just scratching the surface
this could have been serviceable as a standalone sci-fi thing, it wearing the Ghostbusters IP as a skin-suit invited all the comparisons that sunk the already 6/10 potential cult-classic movie to being a 1/10 shitshow
You forgot >himbo eye candy character
Not even in the original was the receptionist anything other than competent, the recasting of Hemsworth as a hot idiot was purest hypocrisy and shows how little they understood the character dynamics from the original.
I still want to know how in the hell they could look at Janine and think she was some kind of dumb bimbo secretary. Like they don't even need to have seen the movies. Just look at her appearance.
You forgot >himbo eye candy character
Not even in the original was the receptionist anything other than competent, the recasting of Hemsworth as a hot idiot was purest hypocrisy and shows how little they understood the character dynamics from the original.
I don't think it's meant to be a commentary on anything. It's just funny.
Him being handsome and stupid might have just been a joke, but the fact he is a genderswapped Janine means they're still making a statement about her character particularly the notion that she's useless just like he is, but because he's a man he gets angry about it and becomes possessed by the villain.
No, it just means it's a joke. This isn't art, it's a cash grab remake.
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It's most definitely art to the people making the movie though. It has specific messaging about how women in society are treated just for being women. It genderswaps many characters in the original movies so it's only fair to draw a comparison.
>this could have been serviceable as a standalone sci-fi thing, it wearing the Ghostbusters IP as a skin-suit invited all the comparisons that sunk the already 6/10 potential cult-classic movie to being a 1/10 shitshow
That's an interesting point.
I think 1984 GB is 10/10, GB2 is an underrated classic, and also really liked Afterlife, but I never bothered with GB16. I saw one trailer once and noped tfo.
I might have possibly checked it out if it was its own thing, and not GB. Probably would have disliked it, but might not have actively avoided it. There would have been no huge internet furor, and it would have been quietly forgotten.
I liked Afterlife as well but the Mary Sue little girl and her instinctive knowledge of Spengler life’s work was irritating.
Haha yes you have six degrees and advanced knowledge of particle physics but I’m a twelve year old girl haha
Fucking spare me.
I feel like it's objectively one of the worst movies of all time. Not even because they're women. It's a legitimately terrible movie. Structured like a series of skits that wear out their welcome by the time they end, zero characterization, stupid ad libbed lines throwing everything at the wall to see whats sticks, nonsensical plotting, they fucking accidentally MURDER a man and completely forget about it. Like the dude's corpse is just sitting there outside their building and nobody does anything. During the final battle they forget that they don't have to CATCH the ghosts anymore because the plasma beams now "kill" them for some reason.
It's just an ocean of shit now like the videogame industry.
Where would anyone even begin to quantify, which is the worst movie in such an overwhelming torrent of creatively bankrupt shit whose only goal is to produce something that's been done way better only without white men?
I unironically felt like an actual good ghostbusters could still be good with the inclusion of wiig and mccarthys characters. i actually kind of enjoyed them both in the movie as bad as it was. mckinnons lolrandumb humor and the ape behaving like a loud she-boon tanked the movie for me.
>Awkwafina
I made the mistakes of watching Shang-Chi and Renfield, having no idea she was in either, then she showed up and ruined both movies entirely.
>Asians >more obnoxious than nogs.
I'm the Awkwafina hater you're responding to, and what you said is completely insane. There isn't a species living or extinct that is worse than nogs.
Kristen Wiig is great.
Melissa McCarthy and Kate McKinnon are okay, but don't really add much. It's early though, so maybe they settle into something. The writing could be tighter.
For a long time i thought it was basically the first case of major/mainstream medium and it's creators to go against the fanbase and shit on them for being le sexist and shit which caused huge dispute, but then i remembered that the first was actually pic rel with the whole "hetero lenses" shit.
Hey, you know how the ending's unsatisfying? Let's have a really stupid emotional moment over a relationship nobody cares about. That'll fix our shitty villain fight.
Okay, this movie is a 7/10. Not great, not bad. The kind of movie that doesn't deserve to be remembered for better or for worse. The writing is insipid, only elevated because the cast are all SNL veterans. The cast and the graphics elevate it.
Like I said, this shouldn't have been a reboot. It's been 30 years; I didn't expect to see the originals busting ghosts. Still, every time I saw a cameo I was disappointed they weren't the actual ghostbusters. It would have been nice to see Dan Aykroyd geek out with the Kate McKinnon, or Ernie Hudson giving advice.
Anyone who has a differing opinion is some kind of agenda shill.
I will say, the positive thing about this whole ordeal is that I finally decided to see this movie for myself and even more importantly, revisit the originals.
I've seen this movie like 5 times. It's awful. I have grown to kinda like it ironically because of how bad some of the scenes with Leslie Jones and generally how cringe it is. But no, overall, it's just dreadful.
>casting is awful, Leslie Jones got a lot of shit but was the only person even trying >they really do not go together well, every cast member is trying to be the star, obvious that the director Paul Feig had no idea how to handle all of the egos >the ad libbed shit is painfully unfunny and should have been cut down >bad editing, zero tension, the original could at least be atmospheric >really uninspired ghost designs >very boring predictable plot and bad antagonist >effects and cinematography make the film look like shit >completely uninspired soundtrack >pacing sucks
You could really analyse every little detail because no part of the film is competent and it's an obvious cash grab for the IP. I don't even think the idea is necessarily bad in of itself but they needed completely different actors, director, script, pretty much everything was done wrong. People were right to be offended by it because it's insulting how few fucks they gave from the outset.
>Is this the worst film released by a major studio in the last twenty years?
It wasn't even that bad. Like... it's just a boring and uninteresting movie, but you don't mind putting it in the background.
This. There are lots of truly awful films that have come out since then. The thing is they've mostly been forgotten. >Birds of Prey (the Harley Quinn movie no one saw) >Gretel and Hansel (a film that's impossible to remember it's so bad) >She Said (the movie about rape no one saw) >Bros (the movie about fags no one saw) >Charlies Angels (the reboot no one saw) >Wonder Woman 84 (the anti-Trump film that was rushed into theaters before Trump was ousted) >Borat 2 (the academy award nominated propaganda piece no one saw) >The Eternals (the super hero film no one saw) >Everything Everywhere All At Once (Rick and Morty Interdimensional Cable: The Movie) >Grease (the reboot that was released and then un-released to be written off as a tax expense) >Live action Pinocchio / Dumbo / Mulan / Little Mermaid reboot
and these are just the ones I remember as being worse than Ghostbusters. I'm sure there are more I don't remember.
I'm sure worse movies exist. I just can't recall off the top fo my mind.
I haven't seen it, but I don't doubt that it's horrible. But there are so many utterly horrible movies pumped out by major studios that there's just no way it's bad enough to be the worst.
Also, the first Ghostbusters is so fucking overrated. It's not a bad movie by any means but it's also not great by any means. Just a solid okay movie with a cool concept. While I'm at it, Bill Murray is overrated too.
Most of the original Ghostbusters was pretty good. It’ll remain in the zeitgeist for decades to come simply because it is so incredibly quotable.
Peck was an unnecessary flat earth atheist and that one scene where Venkman was hitting on Dana while on an investigation did NOT age well.
>did NOT age well.
t. effeminate homosexual.
t. enormous homosexual
Did Trump Worship Syndrome really fuel the hate this movie got?
Not saying it's a good or even decent movie, just saying people here really freaked out about it for some reason
Why wouldn't people be upset? It was Ghostbusters being turned into the female equivalent of all those terrible early-mid 2010s Adam Sandler movies
Just /tvpol/ hyping themselves up by trying to spread the heckin epic culture war to real life after Trump became RNC candidate for president
Movies like this don't exist because someone thought it would be interesting to explore female equivalents of male heroes, or because their genuine interest in the universe made them want to expand it and they incidentally picked all women with zero ulterior motives. It was because something successful was boys and they wanted to take it and make it girls. They hate that things are "male dominated" despite the reason for that being that women find those things pathetic and associate them with ugly, low-value men. That's literally the only reason the concept of nerds exists in the first place. Sexist women.
Then when those low-value men cultivate things that make gajillions of dollars and they enter the mainstream, women pretend they were into it the entire time and it was just those horrible evil incel men who were gatekeeping them. See video games, anime, and comic book culture for indisputable proof. Then the woke crowd wants to prove otherwise, but can't because they don't actually give a shit about these IP's or their respective mediums. So they're completely incapably of creating their own and proving they give a shit. So their only option is to steal and cry "bigot" to any criticism.
Okay but why was it such a big deal???
Grow up, you lost white boy
>Megacorps want to take away things you like and give them to other groups!
An idiot somewhere in the company hierarchy convinced himself that "Ghostbusters mixed with Bridesmaids" would make bank, and there was less resistance to the idea than there were to other ideas for reboots.
Hell Bill Murray probably got a kick out of going "oh, sure, make THIS one!" after shooting down decades of pitches, knowing he was looking at a steaming log that would poison the well.
I almost wonder if Murray agreed to this because he thought it would kill the franchise. The 2013 videogame was the 3rd movie as far as I'm concerned, it had the original cast working on a new threat, story was even written by Ackroyd and Ramis.
He was threatened with legal action according to the Sony leaks. But I also imagine he might have agreed to be in shitshow just to kill the series from ever coming back.
okay so why was he in Afterlife?
Threatened with legal action again, paid a ton of money, or maybe because it was directed by the son of the original director. It doesn't matter really.
>Then when those low-value men cultivate things that make gajillions of dollars and they enter the mainstream, women pretend they were into it the entire time and it was just those horrible evil incel men who were gatekeeping them
This
They shoot proton beams at a representation of the franchise’s logo in the dick. The messaging was quite clear.
Put a chick in it and make it shitty.
Pretty much, yeah. People were hating on it before it was even released.
Gamergate was a weird fucking time man. I knew the Recession was going to bring us a generation of whiny little shits, but fuck me was that something else.
Normal guys genuinely don't care about, or want to hear what people like you have to say about the world. Guys in the 90s wouldn't either.
>People were hating on it before it was even released
Probably because it was announced not that long after Harold Ramis died
nagger homosexual
I don't think so. It was legitimately really bad, and you could see pretty clear indicators of that in the trailers. There WAS some culture war bullshit in the leadup, with people falling into sides for extreme attack or defense before it was even out, but I don't see Trump as having a hand in that. And once it was out, well hell, any real defense of the turd died basically overnight.
Nah, it was just a really bad reboot of a franchise that should have been easy to reboot.
I'm watching it now, it's not bad. Not great, but whatever.
People are just fucking weird about girls. It's not even a preachy film, it's literally just "Ghostbusters, but what if they were girls?"
No, it really is quite shit. I've seen worse, but not many worse from big studios. And I went in VERY willing to give it a chance, thinking "I bet the backlash is just from weirdo incels, it's probably decent but not great." I mean people back in the day assumed that Ghostbusters Extreme would be dire because it had a diverse cast, and the show was fine, even great at points. 2016, though? It was shit.
I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. It's biggest crime is that it's unoriginal and two of the stars lack the charisma of their original counterparts.
This isn't a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination, it's just not nearly as good as the original.
>I don't know how you can say that with a straight face.
It was painfully unfunny, the pacing was awful, the plot was a mess, and the characters were unlikable as individuals while having poor chemistry as an ensemble, constantly stepping on one another's toes. I also didn't like the "nods" to the original, and found the designs of the ghosts pretty poor. It just was a mess of a movie that didn't know what it wanted to be, handing us scenes like the characters bumbling around one minute and then going "actually Holtzmann is a two-gun-wielding sharpshooter badass!" the next. It was a very bad movie. If you disagree, cool, it'd be a boring world if we all agreed on everything. But I went in going "I want to let this generation have a chance to have their own Ghostbusters, I'm rooting for this, I want it to be good!" and walked out going "holy SHIT that was bad."
I mean I'm only 40 minutes in, but I don't find any of that to be my experience.
Also I dig the ghosts.
Leslie Jones ain't bad. The bad guy is a bit dull though.
You're either larping as a retard or retarded.
No, I'm just capable of restraint. I can understand how that would look strange to a board of histrionic drama queens.
Wow, I would have never guessed. I'm glad they added this extra page.
His book was the coolest part of the movie
Almost wish we got a release
>it's not bad
You're not watching it then because it's fucking awful. There is not a single quiet moment in the entire 2 fucking hours of it. It felt like 5.
>Trump out of nowhere
Why have so many of these types been on the board lately
You got Trump on the brain.
I think Gamergate is stealing your stairs muffin.
Here's a brief history of why 2016 became hated:
Ghostbusters 2016 started out as a teaser with no info on anything other than it would be a new movie. People were excited. Then it was announced that it would be all women. People were wondering what about the original cast and how they would tie into this. The studio couldn't decide if it was a sequel or a reboot, then said it was totally separate from the previous films. Ernie Hudson even called them out on that saying to either tie it to the other films, or why even call it a Ghostbusters movie?
Then people got upset with the lack of info, and Paul Feig taunted them. They posted a photo of the movie crew on Twitter to show how it's almost all women, then people pointed out it's all non-black women except for like 3 of them. From here on, any criticism was referred to as being done exclusively by women-hating incels. If you don't watch this film, you hate women!
Then the Sony email leaks came out, and people found out that the original cast would be forced to be in this film no matter what, like threatening Bill Murray with legal action if he didn't appear. This was to make fans of the series want to see the film, no other reason. Trailers came out, the CGI was horrible and made fun of, women-hating incels were to blame.
was one of those leaks that people were not happy about.
Then came the media tour. Melissa McCarthy said on Letterman or Fallon or whatever that they got a lot of hate on this movie, but those people were all men living in their mother's basements - audience laughed, original cast sighed and smiled along. Angry Videogame Nerd said he wouldn't see the film, he was also called a woman-hating incel.
Enjoy the Reddit spacing, 2016 could have been a decent film if they got a better director that didn't just use the same core cast for everything he does.
Nah
Not a single point about the film, all just meme culture war bullshit that surrounded it.
Plenty of others in this thread discuss the movie. I'm giving you the history of the movie's initial impact. I made it through about 30 minutes of the movie before turning it off.
why do libtards love to act dumb?
>trump worship syndrome
really?
Yeah basically, goobergate kiddies were awakened to be "politically active" (complain about women and minorities online) some of them are still going at it to this day lmao
It singlehandedly got Milo @nero banned
2016 Ghostbusters is just another example of women coasting on the effort of men. As they’ve done throughout ALL of human history. And people just got tired of feminism taking, never giving men anything back, and watching them call men “manchilds” for refusing to accept the abuse.
Damn, I'm sure that sounded smart in your head when you were typing it up
I too found his comment cringeworthy.
Women just aren't funny enough to carry a franchise like Ghostbusters so they have to inject all of their women's griping and politics into it thus ruining the entire premise with shit that nobody wanted to see.
The fag director was too weak and pathetic to keep them in line so massive parts of the movie are ad-libbed by people who don't have the skills to carry it off so the result is a jumbled mess.
People are tired of seeing women in roles that they aren't suitable for and it's seeping out into real life and having catastrophic results for society.
No, star wars episode 9 exists.
these are worse.
Bro have you even seen Thor Love and Thunder?
I saw an ad for it and I thought it was a joke
>watch terrible movie
>tricked by the israelites into watching demoralization propaganda
vs
>don't watch terrible movie
>have no basis to call it terrible even though it's clearly a 90-minute SNL skit with a director that sucks dick for cock
quite a conundrum
not worst in terms of production values, writing or even the acting
but it's in the top 5 for most misguided and mismanaged blockbuster productions EVER
it's misguided because the studio wanted to make a all-girl ghostbusters movie but they hired a writer/director that wanted to make a sci-fi version of Bridesmaids
director was in way over his head and couldn't manage production or the budget of the set pieces, they spent millions on a giant dance routine that they had to cut for time
dude was known for allowing actors to extensively improv, but he's not a good enough director to reign it in when scenes started going off the rails so in every scene all 4 actors are fighting over who gets to be the funny Venkman character and the character dynamics are all off
that's just scratching the surface
this could have been serviceable as a standalone sci-fi thing, it wearing the Ghostbusters IP as a skin-suit invited all the comparisons that sunk the already 6/10 potential cult-classic movie to being a 1/10 shitshow
You forgot
>himbo eye candy character
Not even in the original was the receptionist anything other than competent, the recasting of Hemsworth as a hot idiot was purest hypocrisy and shows how little they understood the character dynamics from the original.
I still want to know how in the hell they could look at Janine and think she was some kind of dumb bimbo secretary. Like they don't even need to have seen the movies. Just look at her appearance.
they bimbo'd her up in 2
Even then.
I don't think it's meant to be a commentary on anything. It's just funny.
Not everything has to have a message.
Him being handsome and stupid might have just been a joke, but the fact he is a genderswapped Janine means they're still making a statement about her character particularly the notion that she's useless just like he is, but because he's a man he gets angry about it and becomes possessed by the villain.
No, it just means it's a joke. This isn't art, it's a cash grab remake.
It's most definitely art to the people making the movie though. It has specific messaging about how women in society are treated just for being women. It genderswaps many characters in the original movies so it's only fair to draw a comparison.
>Not everything has to have a message.
In a movie written by leftards?
>this could have been serviceable as a standalone sci-fi thing, it wearing the Ghostbusters IP as a skin-suit invited all the comparisons that sunk the already 6/10 potential cult-classic movie to being a 1/10 shitshow
That's an interesting point.
I think 1984 GB is 10/10, GB2 is an underrated classic, and also really liked Afterlife, but I never bothered with GB16. I saw one trailer once and noped tfo.
I might have possibly checked it out if it was its own thing, and not GB. Probably would have disliked it, but might not have actively avoided it. There would have been no huge internet furor, and it would have been quietly forgotten.
I liked Afterlife as well but the Mary Sue little girl and her instinctive knowledge of Spengler life’s work was irritating.
Haha yes you have six degrees and advanced knowledge of particle physics but I’m a twelve year old girl haha
Fucking spare me.
>who gets to be the funny Venkman character
Obviously that was Kristen Wiig
>dude was known for allowing actors to extensively improv
I fucking hate that shit. Shitty comic actors fumbling around in a scene that should have ended minutes ago.
I feel like it's objectively one of the worst movies of all time. Not even because they're women. It's a legitimately terrible movie. Structured like a series of skits that wear out their welcome by the time they end, zero characterization, stupid ad libbed lines throwing everything at the wall to see whats sticks, nonsensical plotting, they fucking accidentally MURDER a man and completely forget about it. Like the dude's corpse is just sitting there outside their building and nobody does anything. During the final battle they forget that they don't have to CATCH the ghosts anymore because the plasma beams now "kill" them for some reason.
Halloween Kills is worse.
It's just an ocean of shit now like the videogame industry.
Where would anyone even begin to quantify, which is the worst movie in such an overwhelming torrent of creatively bankrupt shit whose only goal is to produce something that's been done way better only without white men?
It's terrible but I really liked the scenes with himbo Hemsworth. Would not recommend watching it just for him though.
I unironically felt like an actual good ghostbusters could still be good with the inclusion of wiig and mccarthys characters. i actually kind of enjoyed them both in the movie as bad as it was. mckinnons lolrandumb humor and the ape behaving like a loud she-boon tanked the movie for me.
No, that would be The Incredibles 2
Is it bad that I actually find Kate McKinnon really attractive in this?
Is she considered ugly or something? I would destroy her throat.
It was boring and cringe. The worst part being when everyone dances to Thriller while possessed,or something.
Alright, I'm gonna watch it.
You memeing fucks have forced me into it.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU MADE ME DO
I haven't seen either but I'd imagine Ocean's Eight is worse. Or anything else with Mindy Kaling or Awkwafina.
>Awkwafina
I made the mistakes of watching Shang-Chi and Renfield, having no idea she was in either, then she showed up and ruined both movies entirely.
I just want her to give me blumpkin. .
I wanna commit crimes with her
Sexual crimes?
I meant more like throwing rocks at passing blimbs and library crimes
I also like popping blimbs but want to sex her
Well yeah, that's just a given
I hate Asian Americans so fucking much it's unreal.
For some reason they quickly became more obnoxious than nogs.
I dunno man, that sounds like a you problem. But thanks for sharing I guess?
>Asians
>more obnoxious than nogs.
I'm the Awkwafina hater you're responding to, and what you said is completely insane. There isn't a species living or extinct that is worse than nogs.
Try having an equally-large Muslim minority instead
My literal boomer mom loved it.
No, The Last Jedi was worse, and in a more embarrassing way because honestly Star Wars should be easy. But this is incredibly bad.
Initial impressions:
Kristen Wiig is great.
Melissa McCarthy and Kate McKinnon are okay, but don't really add much. It's early though, so maybe they settle into something. The writing could be tighter.
The only cultural relevance this movie had whatsoever was people seething at it.
that would be, without a shred of doubt, the franchise killer the last jedi
That honor goes to Bald Im Kino
For a long time i thought it was basically the first case of major/mainstream medium and it's creators to go against the fanbase and shit on them for being le sexist and shit which caused huge dispute, but then i remembered that the first was actually pic rel with the whole "hetero lenses" shit.
>worst film released by a major studio in the last twenty years
that title belongs to the vacation reboot
nah I love original Vacation, but the reboot was not bad. I liked the psychotic brother and the wacky car. Would have better without Ed Helms.
Weird that Chris Hemsworth is in at least 3 movies in this thread people are claiming are the worst
It's older than ten years now but he was in that fuckawful Red Dawn remake too
Nah, The Last Jedi was way worse.
Foodfight comes to mind
Alright, Leslie Jones is the best part of this movie.
A film so bad that after 30 years the studio was forced to make a proper sequel to erase this from people's minds.
What's 2046 like?
What? Ghostbusters 2 was released in '89.
It honestly wasn't that bad, it was just profoundly mediocre. There's nothing really remarkable about it in a positive or negative sense.
OH SHIT OMAR'S COMIN
This movie would have been better if it wasn't a reboot. Murray's cameo would have meant something.
You can tell this is pre-COVID, because they still think people would listen to their government.
My friend tricked me into seeing this movie by paying for my ticket and I still felt ripped off.
Interesting choices
Oh that's why they did it. That's kind of clever.
This scene is ripped right from the cartoon, which was then copied for the game then cut, then used for a movie.
oh cool a toy commercial
No, the worst is The Last Jedi.
Oh a nut joke. That's clever.
Hey, you know how the ending's unsatisfying? Let's have a really stupid emotional moment over a relationship nobody cares about. That'll fix our shitty villain fight.
He is easily the best part of this movie.
Someone find the numbers, because I'm betting he got the biggest paycheck, too.
Okay, this movie is a 7/10. Not great, not bad. The kind of movie that doesn't deserve to be remembered for better or for worse. The writing is insipid, only elevated because the cast are all SNL veterans. The cast and the graphics elevate it.
Like I said, this shouldn't have been a reboot. It's been 30 years; I didn't expect to see the originals busting ghosts. Still, every time I saw a cameo I was disappointed they weren't the actual ghostbusters. It would have been nice to see Dan Aykroyd geek out with the Kate McKinnon, or Ernie Hudson giving advice.
Anyone who has a differing opinion is some kind of agenda shill.
I will say, the positive thing about this whole ordeal is that I finally decided to see this movie for myself and even more importantly, revisit the originals.
7/10 lol. How do you call something insipid and a 7 It's a a 5 at best ignoring the aggressive marketing
Because it was good, it just wasn't great. But honestly, it was more of a 6.5.
I guess I don't care enough to split hairs. I'm deleting it off my hard drive, which should be a red flag since I'm a data hoarder.
>Because it was good,
nah
Oh hey, it's the bad guy from Beverly Hills Cop III and that Starfleet Officer who gave Data shit.
I've seen this movie like 5 times. It's awful. I have grown to kinda like it ironically because of how bad some of the scenes with Leslie Jones and generally how cringe it is. But no, overall, it's just dreadful.
>casting is awful, Leslie Jones got a lot of shit but was the only person even trying
>they really do not go together well, every cast member is trying to be the star, obvious that the director Paul Feig had no idea how to handle all of the egos
>the ad libbed shit is painfully unfunny and should have been cut down
>bad editing, zero tension, the original could at least be atmospheric
>really uninspired ghost designs
>very boring predictable plot and bad antagonist
>effects and cinematography make the film look like shit
>completely uninspired soundtrack
>pacing sucks
You could really analyse every little detail because no part of the film is competent and it's an obvious cash grab for the IP. I don't even think the idea is necessarily bad in of itself but they needed completely different actors, director, script, pretty much everything was done wrong. People were right to be offended by it because it's insulting how few fucks they gave from the outset.
It wasn’t as bad as people let on but it wasn’t great 6/10
Hemsworth elevated it
BvS is worse
Termiantor dark fate is worse
nuWars is worse.
late Marvelshit is worse
>Is this the worst film released by a major studio in the last twenty years?
It wasn't even that bad. Like... it's just a boring and uninteresting movie, but you don't mind putting it in the background.
the last 10 years have been movies like this. this like a dime a dozen by this point
No Objectively its TLJ because its ended the largest most valuable franchise known to man. I still havent been to the movies bc of it
GHOSTBUSTERS
AFTER THE WALL
movies suck so much ass now that I can't say with confidence that it is
This. There are lots of truly awful films that have come out since then. The thing is they've mostly been forgotten.
>Birds of Prey (the Harley Quinn movie no one saw)
>Gretel and Hansel (a film that's impossible to remember it's so bad)
>She Said (the movie about rape no one saw)
>Bros (the movie about fags no one saw)
>Charlies Angels (the reboot no one saw)
>Wonder Woman 84 (the anti-Trump film that was rushed into theaters before Trump was ousted)
>Borat 2 (the academy award nominated propaganda piece no one saw)
>The Eternals (the super hero film no one saw)
>Everything Everywhere All At Once (Rick and Morty Interdimensional Cable: The Movie)
>Grease (the reboot that was released and then un-released to be written off as a tax expense)
>Live action Pinocchio / Dumbo / Mulan / Little Mermaid reboot
and these are just the ones I remember as being worse than Ghostbusters. I'm sure there are more I don't remember.
Honestly, Pattinson's Batman movie was worse.
james won
dane lost.