>*Is willing to nuke every single Maqui homeworld over one man*
What the frick was his problem? That's a warcrime!
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Impossible. Now you're a racist. Congrats.
How?
Are you saying Sisko made a mistake?
He was based. Picard was a pussy
>Very first episode shows Sisko having an autistic meltdown because Picard was controlled by the Borg
>Picard was a pussy
EDDINGTON BETRAYED HIS UNIFORM
Wolf 359 dumbass
How much guilt tripping have you guys gobbled up in your lives to no be able to see how insane you are right now?
Picard was 100% controlled by the Borg. It was not Picard who attacked anyone at Wolf 359, it was Picard's skin wrapped around a Borg core. Would you imprison a car driver for murder because he had a seizure and, during his convulsions, plowed into a group of people? If yes, based morons. If no, Picard is 100% innocent.
Sisko was apparently too moronic to see that too, which means he is unfit for any command position because he cannot divorce his personal feelings from the task at hand. I mean holy frick, he almost resigned his assignment to DS9 in front of Picard, out of spite, so he could have the last word.
Sisko is 100% autist incel energy, pure and simple.
Is there medicine for crippling autism such as yours?
>No u are the autist
Seems like a thing an autist would reply
>the point of the scene was the he was mad at someone who didn't 100% deserve it. Even then, Sisko was mad at all of Starfleet and not only Locutus/Picard.
So he projected his anger against the next best person he could get a hold of, like a fricking child, and a clinically moronic one at that? Thank you for not only making, but SELLING my point.
He could be in mourning. Actually, if you are not at the emotional level of an adolescent, that's the proper reaction. Not anger. Being angry about terrible losses is a clear-cut sign you need to seek therapy. And I'm talking character therapy.
No.
Confirmed for the matte brainlet. Stand down, cadet.
>Were you the matte guy?
>No.
>So, yes.
I kinda see why you are defending Sisko now.
t. loses grip on reality when viewing asymmetrical buildings
hypospray
And now you're in a repetitive argumentative cycle. The last shelter of the simpleton against overwhelming evidence.
>Is there medicine for crippling autism such as yours?
Ketamine White
Ok?
I'm well aware that Sisko wasn't in the right to be mad at Picard, but the point of the scene was the he was mad at someone who didn't 100% deserve it. Even then, Sisko was mad at all of Starfleet and not only Locutus/Picard.
It's probably the most character defining scene of Sisko in The Emissary. He's seething.
His wife got killed and his life ruined. He'd be autistic if he WASN'T mad beyond reason.
Are you the same poster who said the matte painting perspective in
was off?
>gets mad at the guy who murdered his wife
>autistic meltdown
It's impressive he didn't strangle the smug bald frick.
>get mind controlled and turned into a mere arm of a robot hivemind
>”why did you kill my wife jerk?”
Picard literally didn’t kill his wife. It’s like he shouted at his desktop computer for the act of displaying a meme someone sent him on Twitter.
sisko the kind of dude that argue with ChatGPT and get mad at it
Are we sure that wasn't an episode?
Picard is a Mary Stu who always has to be the center of attention (i.e borg attack & Picard the show).
In reality they never would have allowed Picard to return to any position of leadership in starfleet after that and more likely there would have been intense pressure for him to resign and retire. The way the borg are I can't really buy them making it so their cybernetic implants could be removed so easily and just let the human go back to hunky dory like nothing happened. Who knows what residual effects there could have been.
Well, didn't he refuse to release a virus to wipe them out because it was dishonorable or something?
He wanted to infect Hugh with a nanotech virus and send him back to the borg collective, but was persuaded to change his mind after Geordie/Guinan have him meet with Hugh and he sees that Hugh has achieved independent thought.
This. Picard finally understood they're victims and that killing them all off would make him just as evil and thoughtless as the Borg themselves. He was viewing them as a lesser thing just as they do.
Picard is a b***h. Kirk, Sisko, Janeway and Archer would have all chosen to infect the Borg if they had similar experiences with them
Picard is a cuck, that's why we need janeway. It's janeway or no way.
>Janeway
Yeah cause her actions against the Borg had no repercussions for the Federation 20+ years later unless Picard season 3 is considered not canon.
Nu trek isn't canon. So yes, I agree. It is not canon.
While I agree on principle and think it should be considered a bad timeline created by Trek 2009, it's canon on paper until someone comes in and says it isn't.
Well, today is your lucky day. I [Anon] hereby decree nutrek and any future installation as (Officially Liscenced Fanfiction).
You are most welcome. There's no need to thank me.
Starfleet is kinda lax with... well, everything. They had Worf despite his culture being prone to war with humans and then later 7 of 9.
>Yes sir, we met in battle. I was on the Saratoga at Wolf
>THREE
>FIVE
>NINE
>meanwhile, Picard's face
every commander loses patience over time. it happens. it's one of the reasons why captains are forced to be promoted, or retire, after a length of time. fresh blood is always needed. sisko was evidence of this phenomena.
that said, photo torpedo 'em all, let the prophets sort 'em out
>warcrime
How can there be war crimes when there hasn't been a war?
The Imperium of Mankind did nothing wrong concerning the treatment of xenos and would wipe the floor with Starfleet
>my spacemen are better than your spacemen
>thread about Sci Fi that isn't about WH40k
>WH40k fans, "*snort* Well akchually, any Astartes squad could single handedly topple the Klingon Empire. And while I'm at it Pah Wraiths are nothing compared to Chaos Gods. Praise Papa Nurgle *end snort*"
40k is the future of Star Trek.
Makes sense with the Dark age of Technology where they are fricking around with AI and automating everything.
Yeah, but Doctor Who at its gayest can still mop the floor with WH40K.
when asked how it felt to take a human life, he said he didnt know because he only ever killed markies.
Yes, it was based. Frick the Maquis.
>Frick people who are trying to defend themselves against authoritarian governments
>federation offers you a new home and a replicator so you never have to work or farm another day in your life
>chances are the planet you relocate to will be nicer than your shithole backwater planet anyway if said planet was deemed fit for cardassian takeover
>refuse to leave and start bombing your own fellow federation citizens
Yes, frick them. Their existence is downright silly when scarcity has been abolished. They could just to be put in a holosuite recreation of their old house and planet if it's THAT big of a deal.
>who are trying to defend themselves against authoritarian governments
If that government isn't yours, if the "defenders" aren't your citizens, then absolutely. Then they're just terrorists. The Maquis renounced their Federation citizenship because acoochimoya, so when they run an infiltration campaign among the Starfleet officers, they deserve to die.
It do be like that.
Kira was hot. That's the difference.
(that's actually the difference in the original comic before the shoop too)
>was
Still is. Went from an absolute fox to an absolute silver fox. The wall makes exceptions
Amazing.
Bajoran women have clit ridges
What are you saying?
Kira pussy, Kira nipples, Kira anus, Kira feet
It's funny because Kira did a similar thing when she burned down that older farmers hut on a perfectly nice and habitable Bajoran moon because the government wanted to tap it's energy supply causing the moon to become a barren hellhole.
It's just a little bit, no big deal.
YOU BETRAYED YOUR UNIFORM!!
>Aliens occupied my home world for 50 years and we had to fight them off or face extermination
>I literally watched as my people and culture were being reduced to nothing
>We had no choice but to fight
vs.
>I'm mad the planet that's not the native origin of my species which my family has been on for maybe a few generations is now owned by some other space group and I've been asked politely to leave and even be brought to a new world to set up and have access to the best of the best when it comes to technology and treatment of citizens
>Well I'm gonna refuse to leave and then get even angrier when the space group ruling my world aren't exactly like the space group I once belonged to
>I don't care that the treaty signed wasn't liked by either side who both lost and equal amounts of territory to the other and are doing this to prevent more from either side dying in a senseless boarder war. My wants outweigh the entire galaxy apparently.
It's crazy how random buttholes in the Federation just get their own whole planet to do whatever dumb shit they want.
It fricking amazes me how childish and selfish the Maquis actually were. They'd rather live in squalor rather than move somewhere else and have things just as good if not better.
They're a metaphor for hasidic israelites.
You are a genuine sperg and an idiot
>Maquis sympathizer
DS9 is so kino.
I want a terrorist GF like Kira so fricking bad.
>when anon sinks the 3-pointer from downtown
lmao
The Maquis were the most moronic group ever put on Star Trek.
They're Federation citizens, the most privileged of space empires with almost unlimited freedom terrorizing colonizers of a militaristic empire who most likely have no choice but to work on them over planets that don't really matter while at war with the biggest galactic empire the Federation has ever met.
Those frickers could've just moved anywhere in the federation at any time. All their problems are self inflicted.
You can't commit war crimes against terrorists.
Eddington was full of shit
>NOOO you can't just give me a new planet for free and move out of the shithole one in Cardassian space
>We had to spent 5 minutes placing our reactor and replicators that we got for free from the tech utopia that is the Federation to built this colony
>>NOOO you can't just give me a new planet for free and move out of the shithole one in Cardassian space
Why was he there anyway?
>>We had to spent 5 minutes placing our reactor and replicators that we got for free from the tech utopia that is the Federation to built this colony
I don't remember this, I just remember sisko being mad that Eddington made him look bad. If Eddington didn't want his comrades harmed, he should have given himself up and trusted his cohorts with whatever else he was planning. Sisko didn't even want the others he just wanted Eddington.
I'm talking about the Marquis' entire general reason for being.
I don't even remember why they were doing shit, I think they were sympathetic for the cardassians? I need a refresher.
The Maquis are colonists whose planets were ceded to the Cardassians in the peace treaty the Federation made.
Kek, you just can't trust feds at all at any point.
It wasn’t about the Maquis, it wasn’t about the uniform. Sisko was buttmad because big brained Eddington got Kassidy arrested and the best part is that he forced Sisko himself to arrest her!
Pretty much, Eddington overplayed his hand. Too bad he didn't have nukes.
This is a nice theme running through the show. Comes back when Quark and Garak are talking about rootbeer.
Except the Maquis never did that and in fact they had the support of most of the Federation’s populace. Even most Starfleet officers sympathized with them. But they didn’t fit in with the agenda of Starfleet’s fascist shadow rulers so they were ruthlessly eliminated. In a way it’s very similar to WWII.
It's all israeli writers know to write about, is ww2.
For me it’s the three-part episode about The Circle
it's only a warcrime if you lose or an enlisted
It's never a war crime the first time
>24th century
>that's the best image they could come up with
well the only other option is being naked
wouldn't mind a betazoid woman or even a ferengi woman
betazoids have to be naked during the ceremony and ferengi woman arent allowed clothes at all
The writers got caught needing to compete with Babylon 5, so they upped the hard edge a bit. It's a great episode, though. Just a major deviation from the goodey two shoes vibe that Start Trek often cultivates.
>start trek
Boring low IQ gimmick
>boring low-IQ post of a low-IQ anon calling something low-IQ
You cloud at least try to be funny abou-
>autism
Oh right. Autist can't humor. I will laugh in your stead.
Anti-depressants have you up at odd hours you mental defect?
cop and dilate, loser
up up down down left right left right b a select start trek
Where is Jean-luc?
>What the frick was his problem?
HE BETRAYED HIS UNIFORM!
You live in The Star Trek universe
What Star Trek faction and race do you pick?
The one with the green chicks
Orion Syndicate. Turned into feminist dictatorship in enterprise.
"The women are the slave holders all along"
Why would you choose anything else over the Federation
Realisticallu, The based Dominion should have crushed The Glow Space Black person Alliance. They almost did if it wasn't for Odo and Sloan
Klingon so that I'll finally have a chance with a human woman.
Mutt cuck law
One of the omnipotent races
I'd say Q but the Continuum are pansies
Maybe Mirror Q since they have an Orion slave cult apparently, imagine the babes
I would enjoy being a tellarite.
Do Romulans get all the perks of Vulcans like long life and super strength without the dumb drawbacks? If so, I'm going Romulan renegade.
Cheat answer: changeling
Imagine every Vulcan being the equivalent of a PMS'ing woman. That's what Romulans are like. Polar opposite disposition of Vulcans.
Ultra chad Pakled coming through to clown on all you dumber races and take your tech
Pakled. Ignorance is bliss.
I'm gonna hit you with the boring answer and say Q. I'm not a sadist like Q, so as long as I'm just a harmless weirdo the continuum should leave me alone. If I get bored after 10,000 years I'll just kill myself.
Unironically Ferengi. They literally make every scene look comfy, even with all the constant latinum tipping to each other. Imagine just being sneaky, following the rules of acquisition, knowing which ones you can break when it suits you (all of them), trusting the great flow, and always getting away with every scheme you try, and even if you don't you're slippery enough to live to cheat another day, and the whole time you're enjoying fine alien drinks, hot dabo girls, and oomox all the time while doing it.
Become a changeling. Live forever and get to be whatever you want. Odo and his species are so fricking overpowered that the show had to continually ignore what they were capable of.
They should have let Colm Meaney play a changeling some more, he's fun as a villain.
Probably just human federation. I want to be a tourist/scientist/fascist/communist, not a freak
Vulcan.
The sex every seven years thing gives me something to aspire to.
It's sex to procreate, it's not meaningless sex
lol no
They just get unbearable horny every seven years.
Spock never procreated.
I wanna be a nugorn and rape space lesbians with my spit.
federation gives me a chance to frick a vulcan grill
easy choice
He literally just did what the marquis had done before, he just targeted humans.
He killed no one, have warning and ample time for evacuation. It was not escalation.
They have to let the black man get away with everything because there was racism once.
So you’re telling me the only black captain assassinates a senator, punches Q, bombs civilians and abandons his newborn son?
Thus are the burdens of being the chosen herald of the prophets.
AND HE’S MAGICAL?
>he still doesn’t quite understand the star trek setting and thinks colonists aren’t farming and doing other labor to make planets livable
Compared to Picard, Sisko was a little bit of a Black person, but to be fair Kirk would do way worse.
Kirk armed a technologically inferior planet as part of a proxy war, violating general order one.
Kirk did nothing wrong in that episode.
>did nothing wrong in your path
Obviously.
except racemixing with b*jorans
Literally all his problems can be traced directly back to that
Ay we got Benedict Arnold ova here
Hey, OP, what do you think "homeworld" means?
Imagine the inhuman tightness of Romulan pussy. Their muscles are several times stronger than humans. No wonder the Tal Shiar can honeypot federation ambassadors so easily.
If Vulcans can’t lie, how did Tuvok infiltrate Chekotay’s Maquis cell? Is everything the Vulcans say a lie?
Vulcans constantly engage in sophistry. Spark did it all the time.
So you’re saying Chacootey was moron?
He's a hot blooded latino, what more can I say.
Who the frick was spark?
They omit information and they also twist their intended meaning hoping you don't catch on.
>As a Vulcan, I am at all times honest, Commander.
>That's not exactly true. You lied to me when you passed yourself off as a Maquis to get on my crew.
>I was honest to my own convictions within the defined parameters of my mission.
Vulcans are religious fanatics and huge pieces of shit
What does Vulcan religion entail? Venerating and meditating on pure logic?
Yes. They're basically cultists who formed a militant orthodoxy around "logic", which is always creatively interpreted to correspond to whatever anyone in authority wants. The Vulcan religion eschews anything that makes life worth living, any loving attachment or anger or passion that might distract from ultimate loyalty to the churchstate. Any Vulcan who chooses not to participate is sent out into space to die, as the Romulans were. Even now you're exiled for not joining the cult.
Emotions are dangerous to them. You’re just mad your little pointy eared waifu is a heretic and should be purged
Oh man she was so cute here.
>Vulcans can’t lie
AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA THIS FRICKING moron BELIVES THIS PROPAGANDA
I have some Andorian pamphlets to show you
Well I mean technically it was also a monastery and they could, in principle use their highly sophisticated espionage equipment to do astronomical research or some such, so really I’d just call it half truth
>Andorian pamphlets
there's a comic about some andorian wanting to secede from the federation
>some andorian wanting to secede from the federation
Yeah, the old Star Trek EU had a running subplot where the Andorians were a four-gendered race with an imploding population. They needed to resort to genetic engineering to avoid going extinct, but Federation law banned that because genetic engineering cheeses off humans. Then it eventually came out that Starfleet Command had a magic bullet to cure the Andorian populaton crisis, but never shared it with the Andorians because it relied on illegal genetic engineering. So, Andoria gave the Federation the finger and instantly seceded.
Something which probably seemed a little more shocking before canon established that the Federation falls apart in the 30th century and even Earth leaves because they became a Brexit/MAGA analogy.
>the Federation falls apart in the 30th century and even Earth leaves because they became a Brexit/MAGA analogy.
Not shocking when the people writing the show have no idea what Trek is all about.
The family dishonor is removed what, 18 months later?
Wrong anon
Bashir: "Worf, you should bring your brother back in so that I can undo his mind wipe."
Worf: "My who?"
The only person Worf ever gave a frick about was Jadzia because she was the only one who actually understood his Klingon obsession.
Should have just put him in stasis
That would be seen as dishonourable. Wiping his memory basically "kills" who he originally was.
Isn't this bullshit when Spock said it? Isn't that the point?
Romulan pussy stinks
Especially sweaty post-mission Tal Shiar girls. Good.
Cardassian pussy is even tighter and more fertile
>pussy
Cloaca
How do these things work? How are they able to reproduce with Bajorans? What sex organs do Bajorans have?
>How do these things work?
It's a scaly "vegana". Both males and females have them. Genitals, urinary tract and anus are inside.
Deep Chud Nine sucks.
God the maqui were such a gay plotline. Was it supposed to be some proto-zionist propaganda? "muh homeland" Who caaares.
Are holograms always hard like a force field, or can they feel soft? Can they replicate any texture?
Don't think holosuites would be all that popular if they couldn't simulate warm, soft and wet
Favorite two seasons of ds9? Be brave
He wasn't going to nuke them, he was just going to spread a little trilithium resin into the atmosphere making the planet uninhabitable for fifty years.
I am Michael Eddington
>"You know, in some ways, you're even worse than the Borg"
I honestly don't know what's worse, his foaming at the mouth meltdown, or that all the senior staff just kind of shuffle their feet and obey without question
I stumbled onto the video on yt the other day and the comments section was full of people calling Sisko a 'badass' for that. Guess that's why we have nutrek.
color uniform ds9 > gray uniform ds9
i never watched anything but a few episodes of the original plus most of tng but i did spend about 3k in loot boxes 15 years ago trying to get the cardassian warship in sto
am i fan?
Maybe, did you keep Flores?
no i was stacking beam weapons
>3k in loot boxes
bro....wtf is wrong with you?
i really, really wanted that cardassian warship
At the end of the episode he poisoned an entire planet to prove he was serious and there was ZERO repercussions is the point I realized DS9 sucked
It's actually worse than that, the episode ends with Dax laughing it up about how it's fun to do evil things
I seriously could not believe the episode. I actually looked it up on imdb to read reviews to see if perhaps I had somehow misunderstood what I had just watched. It was so out of left field I just could not believe it.
Yep, and its still talked about to this day bro. Further proves DS9 was fricking KINO
It was a Cardassian planet that was settled in violation of the law. The toxins he introduced were harmless for Cardassians.
so it's acceptable for a captain to unilaterally make a decision to render an entire planet uninhabitable to a specific species if they violate a law? The moron should have been court martialed
It wasn't a human planet. They didn't own it or belong there
>They didn't own it or belong there
so then why was a human allowed to make such a massive change to it?
Cardies would never let humans immigrate to one of their planets, wouldn't matter to them.
they also would never allow a human to introduce foreign pathogens on a planetary scale either.
Only because they didn't think of it first.
t. thinks squatters should be able to steal someone’s home
revolutionaries fleeing a perceived fascist state is not the same thing as a squatter. And the Maqui make some valid criticisms of the federation
Maquis bomb a Cardassian planet with a compound that makes it inhospitable for Cardassians
Sisko in turn bombs a Maquis planet with a compound that makes it inhospitable for humans
The Cardassians and humans are forced to swap planets and no one is harmed
Thank you Emissary
>The Cardassians and humans are forced to swap planets and no one is harmed
right, because it would be so simple. Each planet just so happened to have enough ships to transport their ENTIRE population with zero casualties while the air became a deadly poison? Give me a break
Yes b***h
which begs the question why didnt the Maquis bomb their own planets with the cardie killing pathogen so the cardies would have no use for them and leave them alone
Cardies would just nuke them from orbit out of spite.
The Maquis didn't flee the Federation. They were farm larpers that colonized a planet that the Federation provided and which was later ceded to the Cardassians as part of a peace. They were free to stay and live in Cardie space or could leave and get a new planet. They chose to stay and started to ape out when it became clear that *surprise* Cardies wouldn't just leave them in peace. They became a danger to the peace treaty.
So the snakeBlack folk were in the wrong for being unable to stop being snakeBlack folk.
There was a precedent when Data destroyed a colony's water supply in order to get them to leave because the planet was owned by the Sheliak.
Picardlets can't understand or comprehend kino of this caliber.
>muh prime directive
Code for being a weak bluffing pussy. The literal "we won't do shit" line
>muh prime directive
Garbage, there'a a lot of crap in any Star trek season, partly due to trying too hard to be high-brow, and partly due to budget constraints, is my pet theory.
there was the time Kirk intentionally started a war
Kirk had to get it on, the computers were makin' a move. He had to get it on.
The inhabitants evacuated and the federation can easily repair the planet.
The maquis on the other hand don't have those kind of resources
y she look like that
for sex
Nobody tell this guy about general order 24
>In two hours IN TWO HOURS!
It blows my mind to see how many of you can’t comprehend the basic flow of events that happen in For the Uniform. Like many of you are legitimately stupid.
I watched it once years ago, so my memory of it is a bit iffy
I like Star Trek because it shows a future where both lgbt and theists are extinct so humanity can finally get shit done
Who would give more intense wiener and ball torture, Tal Shiar women or Obsidian Order women?
Tal Shiar always jobbed to the Obsidian Order and Section 31.
Even though Romulans are far more advanced than Cardassians and much sneakier and militaristic than the Federation.
Killing people in a war is not a warcrime.
Not doing so is.
sisko is above all else an authoritarian. to such "people" there is no greater offense than refusing to bow to authority. they will stop at nothing to force you to submit even if it means violating every other pricinciple they suppposedly hold.
I always liked how after the first time they were introduced Section 31 exclusively became the Doctors personal hobby because someone realized Sisko would be completely at home in that org
MAJOR KIRA I'M READY TO GO TO DISNEY LAND NOW
> It's another Jake and Sisko episode.
That's a hard pass from me.
Yeah they just can't make these characters interesting to be honest. I liked their dynamic in the first few episodes but there is no lingering conflict at all and it's over by the end of season 1. What's the point of them? Jake and nog are at least funny because Jake is mini sisko.
Jake is nothing like his father. I can tell you’re a racist autist.
Serious question, did Sisko ever face any sort of repercussions or consequences from Starfleet for unilaterally deciding to poison an entire planet's atmosphere? Even Worf was like "should we be doing this?"
No, starfleet are cucks. That's why they need sisko there.
Sisko had the federation's approval to go after the maquis, besides wasn't the poison going to dissolve from the atmosphere in a hundred years? Doesn't matter much for a bunch of disputed border systems.
How can there be a warcrime if there wasn't a war?
>Maquis attack an innocent Cardassian colony first using bioweapons and act like the heroes trying to survive
>Star fleet sends Sisko after their leader and he won't give himself in
>Sisko poisons their colony after he kept refusing to give himself in
>Sisko is meant to be shown as being wrong with the only person siding with him is Dax who even then still refers to him as a bad guy but in a "tee hee" sort of way
B'ys were making it impossible for the Federation and Cardassians to actually find some common ground after years of hostilities and deaths on both sides. Not only that, their consatnt attacks against the weakened state helped push the Cardassians into the hands of the Dominion who eradicated every single one of them. Such noble heroes getting everyone they loved killed by aliens from across the galaxy.
Not to mention he tossed aside the Khitomer Accords just so he could break the Prime Directive.
There are a lot of questionable things that get done so that they can go through the plot in 45 minutes. Like when Bashir lobotomized Worf's brother. Does not seem very ethical..
Nothing gets more shit on than Worf's family.
Whole family had to suffer through dishonor, his first almost wife dies, Alexander leads a miserable life with a father that doesn't want anything to do with him and will never fit in anywhere, his second wife dies too
Worf being the uber-Klingon yet a terrible family man is Star Trek's best running joke.
Having both of his wives murdered is bad luck, but how he treats his son and brother is on him.
he wanted to die because of his dishonor so they made him a new person
The maquis were such annoying moronic homosexuals
>Option A: accept the reality of the outcome of the bigass interstellar war and literally just move to an identical planet in a more peaceful part of the quadrant with no real change in lifestyle or status, business as usual
>Option B: fight a doomed guerrilla campaign where you become stateless terrorists antagonizing literally everyone and your entire family and society gets wiped out or imprisoned forever over some shithole fringe colony that you realistically settled like 20 years ago
Why were they like this? They were written to be too moronic and unlikeable.
>doomed guerrilla campaign
they won
>won
>exterminated by the jem h'dar almost immediately after cardassia joins the dominion
what
Based speed/skipwatcher.
They got virtually wiped out by the dominion.
They could always move their manifest destiny colonies somewhere else with no serious downsides. It's not similar to Earth, where you ultimately have very limited desirable space, there are gorillion habitable empty planets in and around federation space they can peacefully move to and the federation even proposed moving and setting them up for free. They made a completely moronic choice and died for literally nothing.
should have just sent data down, he'd have sorted that shit out immediately.
They were born in to it.
It's all they knew.
The human/federation members were just looking for a thrill or 'good' cause to die for though
>Why were they like this? They were written to be too moronic and unlikeable.
Manifest destiny!
DS9 writers weren't exactly great at subtlety, same reason they turned Dukat into a comical moron supervillain because people actually liked their morally grey character
>dukat
>morally grey
He was always a prideful, needy, narcissistic jackass with no loyalty to anyone but himself. He was just charismatic enough to get away with it.
You missed the point of the character. For however bad he was, he truly believed he was creating a better future for Cardassia until they made him into a meme. They did the same thing with Gowron.
I'm guessing the homosexual limp wristed writers couldn't stomach it.
>switching sides whenever the government changed
>selling out Cardassia to the Dominion just to get a promotion
Wow... what a patriot.
sides whenever the government changed
to be fair this is patriotic by spoonhead standards
That was about the time he became a meme. Bajor occupation Dukat is the real heart of the character.
Gowron just got goofier and goofier as time went on. By DS9 he was basically unrecoverable.
What did Dukat actually do during the occupation besides pillage Bajoran pussy?
HE WAS A SAINT!
Proclaimed Kiras mother as she was getting dicked down.
He's on a mission to hold occupied territory that his people bled to conquer while facing active terrorist cells. There's no way to get out of that situation and be morally spotless. But instead of exploring that he became space satan that fricked the space pope.
I don't think Gowron cared about anything other than his own political power.
Martok actually cared about the empire and his fellow man.
Did he frick your mom as well?
>Why were they like this? They were written to be too moronic and unlikeable.
They were a plot device to show that the Dominion was big and scary and would simply kill you if you got in their way.
>What the frick was his problem?
He took it personal.
federation wanted to exterminate borg
federation almost exterminated founders
janeway killed tuvix
borg are communists, not even sentient, extermination is what you do to pests
founders talked shit and found out
janeway should have been executed for war crimes though
tuvix was right
The Federation is the sneakiest.
Kira's nipple buds always looked so puffy and tender underneath her uniform.
>Kira's nipple buds
they're called minis
I really disliked this crap. There is no way Sisko would sacrifice an entire planet and they know it. Realistically, they would call his bluff and just laugh it off. This was such a b***h move on the part of the writers.
But then again, makes sense since this is star trek.
How do they determine who gets to own real estate on Earth, if it's a post-currency economy and no one competes for economic wealth and status?
The answer is idiotic liberals never think that far.
Wow the perspective on this matte painting is fricked.
That's not a matte painting, anon. That's the Paramount backlot.
I know it's the fake NYC set they have, but you can tell Sisko's restaurant storefront was digitally inserted.
this is why discussion is so low quality
>Noooooo don't discuss and nitpick the technical details just post about Tuvix for the 47th time!
It’s like public housing. You get put on waiting list and only the people with a friend working on the inside get what they want. Why else do you think off world settlers are so against giving up their quaint colonies? They don’t want to be put back on the list. A similar thing happened with Kira’s ex-terrorist buddies who were on the list to get heavy farm equipment but then the state wanted it back so they rebelled. Welcome to fully realized communism.
They decide it through a Jambalaya cooking contest.
>jews are no longer competing for prime real estate to either bet on rising prices or squeeze insane rents out of people
>goym no longer invested in a rat race to earn shekels to pay off their loans or to pay their insane rents
>mobility is cheap and can reach any place in no time
>every place can look nice with 24th century technology
It's easy, seems like his restaurant happened to be there, but it could have been anywhere and it wouldn't matter
>it could have been anywhere
>it just happened to be a creole restaurant in new orleans
>tee hee
It’s sort of cute how dumb you are
>It's easy, seems like his restaurant happened to be there, but it could have been anywhere and it wouldn't matter
That's not the point. Why does HE get to have a restaurant there, and no one else? What entitles him to own that property, if economic wealth is not a factor?
What if I wanted to own a restaurant, but there's literally no spaces available? There's no way I can ever compete for one, because there is no competition; I can't work to amass wealth until I can rent or purchase my own space, I have no mechanism to participate in my own destiny, the government controls everything.
You are thinking about it too much. Gene Roddenberry smoked a lot of dope and came up with all this new age commie-lite bullshit who he could have sex with pretty ladies in the 60s. He was fricking every female you saw more than once. Everyone from Yeoman Rand, to Uhura, even Dr Polaski. And we know he married Nurse Troi.
the only reason Gene was doing TV was for the pussy he could get from his casting couch
The Federation has credits. I don’t give a frick what senile Gene said once. The Federation has currency based on labor, not debt. Just like Nazi Germany.
Based Roddenberry appreciating fine women. Now all we have are hamplanets and muttoids in television.
Yep nobody would give a shit about black female queens on Star Trek if they were sexy and classy ladies like OG Uhura. Nope they all want to be qweenz an sheeit now.
The agenda is clear: make the world dumb and ugly
he just wanted THAT THONG-DA-THONG, THONG,THONG
You are ancient
Bruh like half the trek posters here are over 40.
Man it’s a hot one
Working hard or hardly working?
>the thought of leaving any maquis alive was repulsive to me! So while our useless science officers were measuring chrono-tachions I ordered my klingon weapons officers to begin SLAUGHTERING the rebels
Somehow it’s Insaneway yet it’s never Siskill
What was the most evil thing Picard ever did? (Wolf-359 doesn't count)
He dated the archeologist. She was much younger, and it gave me the ick.
That's taking Sisko's actions completely out of context. It WAS a bluff. The Maquis already did the same to a Cardassian homeworld. They were able to trade one world because of what Sisko did, Cardassians were still able to survive on the planet.
He was only going to do it to one world and he was playing up his obsession.
TOTAL MAQUIS DEATH.
>turkana iv breaks from the federation and becomes a rape planet
feds sleep
>maquis refuse to submit to spoonheads in non-fed territory
feds start executing and arresting them
It does make sense with how governments work. They won't fix the potholes in your city but will spend a trillion dollars on the war in Ukraine.
Nothing Turkana IV does affects anyone else so why would they care?
The Maquis on the other hand is hellbent on starting another war between Federation and Cardassia.
The Maquis are so moronic. Who cares if the Federation gave away their homes and let Cardassians start enslaving them? They should just shut up and do as they’re told.
Considering the sheer power imbalance they were facing, "playing ball" with the federation was their only route to survival.
That’s right chud. You need F-15s to stand up to the government. Stop resisting.
You got it wrong.
The Federation handed them all new free planets away from Cardassian space they can go to. Instead the Maquis prefers to stay to get raped by the Cardies.
They're like an 80 year old woman that would rather stay in her old house next to the new airport than take a huge check for a new place.
Yes goy your grandmother should sell us her family home at fair ~~*market*~~ valuation so we can build our huge airport
Exactly right. It's the type of person that throws a tantrum and leaves when they don't get 100% of what they want instead of taking a deal that is overall good but not exactly what they wanted.
What actually happened
>federation colonized worlds
>colonists spent most of their lives building them up
>cardassians start attacking them and kill many colonists
>federation gives away worlds that were never in cardassian space despite colonist protests
>cardassians agreed in the treaty to leave colonists alone but secretly began attacking them and poisoning replicators
>federation does nothing
>colonists begin defending themselves
>federation starts arresting them
>colonists secede from a government that doesn’t represent them
>federation decides to wage war on them
Now post more of your oversimplified revisionism.
>What actually happened
colonized worlds
Not my problem
spent most of their lives building them up
Not my problem
start attacking them and kill many colonists
Not my problem
gives away worlds that were never in cardassian space despite colonist protests
Not my problem
agreed in the treaty to leave colonists alone but secretly began attacking them and poisoning replicators
Not my problem
does nothing
Not my problem
begin defending themselves
Not my problem
starts arresting them
Not my problem
secede from a government that doesn’t represent them
Not my problem
decides to wage war on them
Not my problem
>Now post more of your oversimplified revisionism.
Do you think Dukat made kiras dad watch?
I couldn’t have made you look any dumber than you have already presented yourself as. Thank you and good night.
I'm not hearing a no....
Dukat, you filthy monger!
>Eddington becomes Maquis leader
>actually starts winning against both the Federation and Cardassia thanks to Klingons attacking spoonheads
>Maquis are about to formally declare themselves an independent nation
>Fed command is horrified that a functional offshoot state could threaten their authority and that the vast majority of their citizens support the Maquis
>Sisko goes full despot and threatens to bomb every single Maquis planet with a 50 year poison
>Eddington, someone who actually upholds real Federation ideals, sacrifices himself to save the colonies
>however it doesn’t matter because Dukat sells out Cardassia to the Dominion and they destroy every Maquis planet, kill every Klingon in the sector and declare war on the entire Alpha quadrant
>the Federation is brought to the brink of annihilation, their concessions to Cardassia were pointless and they betrayed, arrested and killed their citizens for literally no reason and in fact drastically weakened themselves by doing it
In my estimation everyone in Starfleet command and the Federation government should have been court martialed.
The Maquis were a tiny off-shoot, they had no real power except for sympathizers in the Federation illegally supporting them.
jfc pay attention to the plot moron, there’s a wiki with specific episode citations if you can’t do it yourself
Give me a citation that says the Maquis are independently powerful instead of just siphoning off weapons from the Federation and can do shit against massive forces like the Dominion.
Refer to anything actually in the post you’re trying to debate
>and in fact drastically weakened themselves by doing it
>three front war and dissatisfied openly rebellious populace and officers
Problem? You little seething tard
>let's just keep this group stealing weapons and ships from us to do moron shit with alone - who needs those anyway? not like we have a war to fight or anything
>let’s spend all our time chasing down our citizens, who are winning, instead of fighting our actual enemies
>oh no we need the prophets to save us
inb4 seething coward reply right before the thread drops off