Isekai

Why isn't there more Isekai in Cinemaphile material?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do you expect me to know what you're talking about

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Isekai is a Japanese genre of portal fantasy and science fiction. It includes novels, light novels, films, manga, anime and video games that revolve around a person or people who are transported to and have to survive in another world, such as a fantasy world, virtual world, another planet, or parallel universe.

      Chronicles of Narnia for example is an isekai

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        not really, when people say isekai they're not talking about "fantasy where MC goes another world" they're talking about horrible light novels about mary sue going to video game world where he's invincible and get all the biches

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >t horrible light novels about mary sue going to video game world where he's invincible and get all the biches
          Chronicles of Narnia is still kind of that. Just that the invincibility comes from the power of Jesus Lion rather than from a Goddess with huge breasts.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Soooo, Captain N: The Game Master?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    western media has the self-respect to not pander to pathetic losers who don't like their lives.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Western media is made by and for pathetic losers who don't like their lives.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this is the pot calling the kettle black, anon.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Is it really "black" and not "back"? the latter sounds more logical

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it is black. The saying comes from a time when both those things were black metal. So the Pot pointing out the kettle is black shows its lack of self awareness because it is also black.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that is literally their whole opeartioal plan

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    and ching chong to you too young lad

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What about Jon Carter (comics) of mars, Buck Rogers and flash Gordon?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Did not isekai originate in western literature like Alice in Wonderland and Wizard of Oz?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It goes even farther if you want to lump something like the divine comedy in there

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If we count that, then the epic of Gilgamesh would be Isekai.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Arguably any ancient story where some hero goes to a foreign land. Any sort of stranger in a strange land story that doesn’t involve actual locations and the protagonist being someone earth local.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I never claimed it originated in Japan

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    anon we just had Star vs. the Forces of Evil, Amphibia, The Owl House, and Infinity Train

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I.. I've never watched any of those.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Isekai requires the author to know about the things that give the character an advantage, so they’re hard to write unless you go full protagonist is a moron but got super powers.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Western comics and cartoons generally show you a unique and interesting character, maybe you can live vicariously through them a little bit but generally the characters are distinct and at the very least 2 dimensional and different from the reader. Swapping protagonists between books would change the story drastically. Western fiction sometimes has an audience surrogate for visiting these strange worlds or interacting with these other worldly characters but they aren't always the protagonist
    Manga however is built from the ground up for self insertion, that's why the characters are so blank and swapping protagonists between books would change nothing compared to changing the reader. Isekai is just lazy even by manga standards, it takes whatever little bit of character the protagonist had with their role in the book's universe and strips it away completely to turn them into the reader entering the world. Feels like a fundamental misunderstanding of how and why their own medium works with just how popular that genre has become, it's just too meta for me

    Any Isekai recommendations with butthole protagonists or something?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >wrote all that text
      >and I didn't read a single word of it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Western comics and cartoons generally show you a unique and interesting character

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You'd probably like Konasuba. The main character is basically Jack Spicer, but a fantasy hero.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I want to isekai in her vegana if you catch my drift.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Manga characters are a blank slate to self insert into and somehow it has devolved into this weird meta Isekai shit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bland overreaching generalization equals meaningless statement.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It got popular when a genre gets popular it starts to deconstruct itself.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it's why every anime protagonist is a bland generic loser.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Guy from gxp is just a clone of tenchi

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cherrypicks a genre

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because Japan has beaten that horse until it's just a greasy spot on the ground.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Tone it down with the weebspeak. That genre in manga is cancerous anyway.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    do you mean self insert fanfic? there are tons of garbage dude

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    technically Superman is an isekai protagonist

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was actually pretty popular with 80s cartoons

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot the opening for this one

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because isekai is a fantasy genre and the west in general hates doing fantasy.
    Yes, you could have the elements of an isekai without the fantasy. But it's like saying a personal drama about a widow of a cop is the same as Lethal Weapon because there are cops.

    This is weird because in the 90's they loved sending normal people to fantasy worlds in movies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Because isekai is a fantasy genre
      Not really.
      Fantasy is the most common, but there are isekai that take place in the future, isekai that take place in a WW1/2 analogue, isekai that take place in just an alternate version of the modern day, etc. etc.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No. There's like 2 in a future (that feature magic), 1 in ww1/2 (that features magic), maybe 3 about sort of early modernity (that feature magic). It's a fantasy genre with some small variations that stand out because they barely change the base format.
        Again, it's the same as a cop show. You can have variations but if you don't keep the basics you lose the audience, and dragon quest fantasy is one of the basics.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the west in general hates doing fantasy.
      wasn't GoT the most popular series a few years ago?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        sort of? did they do anything else of note in the last decade?

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What I don't understand is why there's just not more blatant selfinsert bait in the west
    The public is the same in japan and here, sad lonely guys who are extremely starved for being the protagonist of something , having harems, being OP and everyone liking them.

    There's people in this board self inserting as fricking Marco or Diapper for god sakes, if they are that desperate they will eat whatever shit you put them in a plate.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >why there's just not more blatant selfinsert bait in the west
      haven't you seen cops with the punisher or housewives with soap operas? all media is self insert. You just like something more and think the one you don't like is inherently inferior.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the marco selfinsert threads on Cinemaphile are even more pathetic than the isekai general on Cinemaphile
      they are so fricking fun to read

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We kind of got it

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is my wife Gwenpool so hellishly perfect?

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Most Cinemaphile media that gets discussed exists in one of two company wide multiverses that are specifically supposed to be versions of Earth. Traveling outside that could happen, but it tends to eventually loop back if they want to play with the big kids.

    For the cartoons and comics that exist outside that, we're already seeing an uptick in blatant, Western isekai with Amphibia and Owl House being widely discussed on the board. Isekai wasn't always a big thing in Japan, either. Whether there's a similar explosion in the West or not remains to be seen.

  22. 2 years ago
    Boco

    Theres already too fricking many of them over there, we don't need more here.

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