its pretty great. its a shame we will almost certainly never get an adapation of gravitys rainbow, that would be kino beyond my wildest dreams but the only possible way i could see it being done justice is as a mini series with a huge budget and complete faithfulness to the novel which just seems incredibly unlikely given how few people genuinely understand the novel in the first place let alone how many are also film makers with enough pull to get it made
Been on an existential crisis since I realize this and The Long Goodbye are the two movies of it's kind, if anyone has any recs for more "PI completely removed from his own time has to hang around LA sleazeballs"
there would still be no point in adapting GR (or any of the other more difficult Pynchon books [or even the simpler ones, as seen in how much IV has to drop from the book to fit into a single piece]). Both the nearly mathemathical language and the fragmentary nature of his plots are essential for the Pynchmeister experience and while they could be parodied or reworked into something completely new, it still isn't the same. Like, I could see you do it in AtD, but just imagine the hell it would be to shoot it, where you start with 4 different narratives each in a particular cinematographic style but everything starts to blend in and become different from itself once things start moving
> PI completely removed from his own time has to hang around LA sleazeballs
Couple of cowboy bebop episodes like that
The kid detective also has a similar “PI removed from his own time” vibe
lmao i wonder how many people assumed slothrop is black just because his first names tyrone, theres several clear indicators to the contrary within the first 50 or so pages of the novel but still i think at this point that name has become culturally inseparable from black people
It was an ironic play on the name of 50's heartthrob actor Tyrone Powers. Fortunately, almost anybody reading Pynchon would be relatively educated enough to understand name popularity changes over the years, especially in an American novel written in the mid-20th century.
i honestly agree with you, but that doesn't mean i don't enjoy adaptations from time to time. to me hamlet is one of the greatest pieces of literature ever written (even if it is a play and not prose fiction as such) but i still enjoy the kenneth branagh version immensely for what it is
Its a pretty awful adaptation, the novel makes sense and is coherent while the movie is a disjointed mess. The only thing it succeeded in capturing is the overall vibe of the book
...huh this makes a lot of sense. Never thought about it but yeah (still, I have some friends who got into the book after they enjoyed the movie, but they're all "dude weed lmao this is the prequel to the big lebowski")
One of my favorite movies. So cool, such a good adaptation from a notoriously difficult source writer. Great aesthetics, nice pacing, great performances, complex like Pynchon but accessible and enjoyable. Good filter film!
>movie and novel about the American Dream being hijacked by them, international cartels, and glowies >hero seeks out the truth regardless and ultimately chooses to do good despite all the negative things around him >also works as a post break up movie
You'd think tv would like it more. It works on so many different levels, but this board is mostly tourists and normalgays
The Cinemaphile that would like this movie is long gone. There's still a lot of guys from that time but why actually discuss movies that pertain to our experience and are good? Capeshit leaks, political agitation threads, coomer bait, Barbenheimer soiposting and the like are the standard now. I browse this board out of habit and the occasional good thread, like this, that pops up.
>CHOTTO, KENICHIRO, DOZO! >MOTTO PANUKEIKU!
It has a seriously cool soundtrack and funny scenes. It's comfy to watch, and all the more so for being narrated by qt Joanna Newsom. The legendary Belladonna is in it in addition to other well known actors, . The book is fun too, but was it really necessary to give 2 pages to the lyrics of the song playing in whatever bar Sportello happens to be in? Anyway, it's a fun and unconventional buddy movie that I've seen maybe 3 times high.
Doc and Bigfoot are "partners" in spirit, even if none will ever admit it.
That was a movie where he gave up any artistic integrity and just made a hollow self-feteshizing crapheap that was made for exactly no one but himself. He has made extreme kino but the DDL movie be made before that flopping and being forgotten immediately after release probably made him say frick it and went ahead and made a movie that people wouldn't even check out and effectively tank his career. He had a great run though if nothing else. Some supreme kino he made. Boogie Nights, Magnolia, The Master, TWBB, Inherent Vice. All some god-tier kinos. Dating some muh vegana black israelite actress and having four kids with her didn't help him at all. So many kinos he could still make...
I havent seen Phantom Thread but that looks like oscar-bait from far away. I don't know what happend to him, maybe age. Some directors only get better others.. well.. others make pizza teen movies.
You are either a closet case or have not seen a 'boy' in your life. That's a fricking woman, man. Albeit with an uncurvy build but it's unmistakably a woman and she's quite hot. Most women aren't built like Playbol models man. They're like that. So what? Still hot.
>that scene where Waterson hangs her petite ass in front of Joaquin and he slaps it hard and then fricks the shit out of her >the dreamy and comfy coomer 70's LA aesthetic >A couple of cute waifus besides Waterson
One of my favourite kinos ever made. It's got everything that I like into one. Great thread anon and thank you for reminding me to watch it again. It's been about two years since I watched it last.
first time I watched it, it was a 6/10.
but it got better and better on every rewatch.
nowadays I pretty much laugh my ass off throughout the entire movie.
it's kinda like the sneed meme, at first it's just eyebrow raising, then a year later you find yourself laughing like a moron just at the mention of sneed
its pretty great. its a shame we will almost certainly never get an adapation of gravitys rainbow, that would be kino beyond my wildest dreams but the only possible way i could see it being done justice is as a mini series with a huge budget and complete faithfulness to the novel which just seems incredibly unlikely given how few people genuinely understand the novel in the first place let alone how many are also film makers with enough pull to get it made
Been on an existential crisis since I realize this and The Long Goodbye are the two movies of it's kind, if anyone has any recs for more "PI completely removed from his own time has to hang around LA sleazeballs"
there would still be no point in adapting GR (or any of the other more difficult Pynchon books [or even the simpler ones, as seen in how much IV has to drop from the book to fit into a single piece]). Both the nearly mathemathical language and the fragmentary nature of his plots are essential for the Pynchmeister experience and while they could be parodied or reworked into something completely new, it still isn't the same. Like, I could see you do it in AtD, but just imagine the hell it would be to shoot it, where you start with 4 different narratives each in a particular cinematographic style but everything starts to blend in and become different from itself once things start moving
> PI completely removed from his own time has to hang around LA sleazeballs
Couple of cowboy bebop episodes like that
The kid detective also has a similar “PI removed from his own time” vibe
Crying of Lot 49 could be adapted
>"PI completely removed from his own time has to hang around LA sleazeballs"
Harper
big lebowski and under the silver lake?
already a fan of both, will raise you Lodge 49 because whilte Dud isn't a PI, it's probably even more Pynchonian than the Inherent Vice movie
it's also what Silver Lake wanted but was too detached to be
Cutter's Way is kind of like them, but he isn't a PI. He's just a crazy war vet.
A finger on the monkey's paw curls... somewhere in Hollywood, the decision is made to cast Jamie Foxx as Tyrone Slothrop
lmao i wonder how many people assumed slothrop is black just because his first names tyrone, theres several clear indicators to the contrary within the first 50 or so pages of the novel but still i think at this point that name has become culturally inseparable from black people
It was an ironic play on the name of 50's heartthrob actor Tyrone Powers. Fortunately, almost anybody reading Pynchon would be relatively educated enough to understand name popularity changes over the years, especially in an American novel written in the mid-20th century.
That will never happen. Some things are just better left alone. Why such a need for it to be made into film? I value literature more as a medium.
i honestly agree with you, but that doesn't mean i don't enjoy adaptations from time to time. to me hamlet is one of the greatest pieces of literature ever written (even if it is a play and not prose fiction as such) but i still enjoy the kenneth branagh version immensely for what it is
Make it an epic musical comedy with explicit sex.
Its a pretty awful adaptation, the novel makes sense and is coherent while the movie is a disjointed mess. The only thing it succeeded in capturing is the overall vibe of the book
It's one of those movies that's only good if you've read the novel. White Noise was the same.
...huh this makes a lot of sense. Never thought about it but yeah (still, I have some friends who got into the book after they enjoyed the movie, but they're all "dude weed lmao this is the prequel to the big lebowski")
PTA hasn't made a good movie in 11 years.
One of my favorite movies. So cool, such a good adaptation from a notoriously difficult source writer. Great aesthetics, nice pacing, great performances, complex like Pynchon but accessible and enjoyable. Good filter film!
pseud garbage
The ending part surprisingly fricking hot. I read the book and remembered there was an extended sex scene in it but frick I didn’t expect that
Puro kino
Underrated in its time
Those who know, know
Gatekeep
>movie and novel about the American Dream being hijacked by them, international cartels, and glowies
>hero seeks out the truth regardless and ultimately chooses to do good despite all the negative things around him
>also works as a post break up movie
You'd think tv would like it more. It works on so many different levels, but this board is mostly tourists and normalgays
The Cinemaphile that would like this movie is long gone. There's still a lot of guys from that time but why actually discuss movies that pertain to our experience and are good? Capeshit leaks, political agitation threads, coomer bait, Barbenheimer soiposting and the like are the standard now. I browse this board out of habit and the occasional good thread, like this, that pops up.
>CHOTTO, KENICHIRO, DOZO!
>MOTTO PANUKEIKU!
It has a seriously cool soundtrack and funny scenes. It's comfy to watch, and all the more so for being narrated by qt Joanna Newsom. The legendary Belladonna is in it in addition to other well known actors, . The book is fun too, but was it really necessary to give 2 pages to the lyrics of the song playing in whatever bar Sportello happens to be in? Anyway, it's a fun and unconventional buddy movie that I've seen maybe 3 times high.
Doc and Bigfoot are "partners" in spirit, even if none will ever admit it.
I love this film and i cannot believe that Paul Thomas made that horrendos Pizza movie after this.
That was a movie where he gave up any artistic integrity and just made a hollow self-feteshizing crapheap that was made for exactly no one but himself. He has made extreme kino but the DDL movie be made before that flopping and being forgotten immediately after release probably made him say frick it and went ahead and made a movie that people wouldn't even check out and effectively tank his career. He had a great run though if nothing else. Some supreme kino he made. Boogie Nights, Magnolia, The Master, TWBB, Inherent Vice. All some god-tier kinos. Dating some muh vegana black israelite actress and having four kids with her didn't help him at all. So many kinos he could still make...
I havent seen Phantom Thread but that looks like oscar-bait from far away. I don't know what happend to him, maybe age. Some directors only get better others.. well.. others make pizza teen movies.
never heard of, seen or ever watch.
good eyeball waster, stay lost
too small of breasts tho. literally built like a boy
>too small of breasts tho. literally built like a boy
nice frog gay
tanx, butthole
You are either a closet case or have not seen a 'boy' in your life. That's a fricking woman, man. Albeit with an uncurvy build but it's unmistakably a woman and she's quite hot. Most women aren't built like Playbol models man. They're like that. So what? Still hot.
you're either half a yard or half a queer perhaps both
CHOTTO, KENICHIRO
>that scene where Waterson hangs her petite ass in front of Joaquin and he slaps it hard and then fricks the shit out of her
>the dreamy and comfy coomer 70's LA aesthetic
>A couple of cute waifus besides Waterson
One of my favourite kinos ever made. It's got everything that I like into one. Great thread anon and thank you for reminding me to watch it again. It's been about two years since I watched it last.
It's better than the book and has a better message
i saw this but genuinely don’t remember anything about it except for a scene with him & reese
first time I watched it, it was a 6/10.
but it got better and better on every rewatch.
nowadays I pretty much laugh my ass off throughout the entire movie.
it's kinda like the sneed meme, at first it's just eyebrow raising, then a year later you find yourself laughing like a moron just at the mention of sneed
sneed
Pleb here, what are his best movies, people keep saying There Will Be Blood but I’ve never seen that