It just went from being a flick to being pure cinema.
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Article is poorly written but it appears each scene was shot in English and Comanche
so it won't be a dub then? They just shot the movie twice? That's what the article is implying.
they shot the scenes twice
that's honest filmmaking
It's cool I guess from a perspective of sheer effort... but I highly doubt it was as taxing as you are making out. Keep in mind for every single in shot in every single scene there is usually a minimum of 2 takes, typically there will be up to a dozen per shot (obvs depending on the complexity of the shot). I doubt they did as many Comanche takes as English takes... but yes it is still impressive to do both at all.
What's most impressive really is the edit. Cutting together two versions of this film (which is elementarily selecting the "best" takes and fine tuning them together into a narrative) is where the real hard work is. As you alluded to earlier, they technically have "shot the movie twice" because the Comanche sequence of shots/takes they select will not be identical to the English ones. Therefore it'll technically be a different movie that follows an identical story. They'll release two films - English Prey and Comanche Prey. That is very time consuming and pretty awesome.
Obviously all that only counts if the movie is solid tho
it depends on how dialogue heavy the movie is. If she's just mostly on her own running from the predator, there doesn't need to be much active communication for most of the film, making the editing job easier.
Yeah of course. I imagine it'll predominantly be the opening 30 mins with some extra at the end. Probably half a feature's worth of work still. I would say quite impressive.
But also there will be multiple editors etc etc... like I said originally it's not as taxing as you would perhaps immediately expect.
However, that doesn't take away from the fact that no one else is doing that shit in the industry atm.
no shit
Yeah, we'll see if that's the case
Dubbed voices would obviously mean that they lied
And to not have a Comanche version of the trailer is fishy
Sounds like at the very least it's the original actors doing both languages, whether they have to dub some of it in or not
Why even have English? Let the Commanches speak their actual language and put in subtitles in English.
americans are weird when it comes to subs
seething out of nowhere lol
Not really
Europoors seethe about America 24/7, so it’s not out of nowhere
Only the boomers because their eyesight is really bad.
That's why there was b***hing over Parasyte and not the billions of anime that are subbed by Crunchyroll and Funimation every season.
i've read on this forum many times americans saying they 'don't like to read'
it's just how it is for these people
You'd be surprised how few people can read subtitles fast enough to keep up and not miss everything going on above them. Ever had reading aloud in class? How many could keep a speaking pace while reading from the pages? Even in high school I remember plenty of people who couldn't keep up a speaking pace when reading. Now imagine them trying to both read the subs and keep up with the scene.
The average person is a lot dumber than you think.
Oh god the memories are rushing back
but it's not a kids movie anyway, are there really still people like that past the age of 13?
Oh yeah, man. Some people are smart/lucky enough to use dyslexia as an excuse. Some are just fricking dumb.
>past the age of 13?
I can confirm they still exist in high school, and if they haven't learned by then I doubt they learned after that.
>are there really still people like that past the age of 13
Around 30% of Americans are functionally illeterate
this.
Every single dub vs sub discussion has those people using "Uh I'd rather pay attention to what's happening on screen instead of reading" as an argument.
I wouldn't be surprised if you told me those people breathe manually
americans can't read
This movie was made for brown people and not the smart funny eye shaped ones, Black folk and company can’t read fast enough (or well enough) for a movie to do that
>and Comanche
kino, i look forward to watching it in that language with subtitles for enhanced immersion
Black person for total immersion just put on the comanche dub and turn OFF the subtitles.
that's a downgrade, flicks >>>> cinema
>dub
CRINGE!!!!
it's pretend cinema.
every italian movie ever made is pretend cinema
they didnt dub those films in a fake "artistic" way.
It's not actually dubbed though, they just shot the scenes twice
Weren't you chuds b***hing about this being woke? Seems kinda kino to me that they're doing this.
That's enough, chud. I've chudding had it with you and your chudfoonery. Chud grass.
wow i'm going to learn commanche in advnace, really useful!!!!!!!! WOWOWOWOWWOWOWOWOOWWOOW!!!!!!!!!! COMANCHEHCIACHIEHCE
i also learned amaracmienic for the jesus story and the mayan stuff for that other one by the guy with the beard wowowowowow
wonder why they are focussing on that point rather than the fricking weakling female child they put in as the 'hero'.
someone should make a fan preview video showing arnie and his team being wiped out, then this prostitute being indestructible.
>IN 1987
>THE STRONGEST MEN IN THE WORLD
>WITH THE BEST WEAPONS MONEY COULD BUY
>WENT UP AGAINST
>A FOE
>THEY COULDN'T DEFEAT
>- cue death scenes -
>THIS YEAR
>ONE GIRL
>WITH NO EXPERIENCE
>WHO IS STILL LEARNING WHAT PERIODS ARE
>WILL FACE OFF
>AGAINST THE SAME THREAT
if this film is kino, she'll learn what a lack of periods are
get a life loser
Das Raycis, what about Tlingit or Navajo? I'm going to boycott this movie until they include all variations of Native American language.
>uppity wigwamthotlet keeps mouthing off that she can do it, she can defeat the pick up sized grizzly
>kek, here's a bow and two arrows, and some XY tomahawks, knock yourself out
Comanches were pretty based
>100 native speakers in 2007
Dead language.
Dead culture.
RIP natives.
Passion of Christ was dubbed in languages with 0 native speakers tho.
who the hell speaks comanche
their sons and daughters dont even speak their ancestor's language
Damn, the first? That must mean it's good.
>tfw no Predator movie taking place during the Mayan era and directed by Mel Gibson
>aonther prequel
it's not like it being a prequel really matters. It sounds more like an anthology entry rather than it being part of the "lore" and having some direct relationship to other films, but who knows.
>prequel
Hero girl gains Predator’s respect (they end up in a tie) and fight white colonizers together
>the worst ever indian c**ts are the real heroes we met all along the way
cope, yt
with what?
comanches were famously the biggest c**ts out of all the indians
Ah yes, the language of the honorable Comanche tribe, who uh, drank blood and fricked children to death! How diverse and wonderfully vibrant
white bros we got a movie for us!
#ReleaseTheComancheCut
someone posted this in another thread but it would be acceptable if comanche lady teamed up with predator to disappear roanoke
that would unironically be kino
would be cool but she's Comanche aka from Oklahoma/Texas region
Oh good, the trailer seemed cool but I was disappointed they were all speaking English, there were some white people in the trailer who will presumably speak english so I hope that the more authentic dub takes it even further by having the english they speak take into account how the language was different back then, not that I know much about the language of the time period maybe it was basically the same as modern english
Yeah but it will never be a kino, will it?
>to get a full comanche language dub
so it means it was in english and later they dubbed it to comanche? Then it gonna be awful, just make it as Passion of the Christ you morons
no, read the thread
ok then MAYBE i'll watch the comanche version if there aren't much pozzed shit as nowdays films
Holy shit this just became kino
Why do people seethe at american natives? aren't they almost extinct?
I remember you guys crying about the girl in that marvel archers series being there just for woke points
how can a film be a cinema, a cinema is a building where you watch the films, moron
I'm sure the indians are all lining up to see a shit movie just because some people dressed as them are in it.
who could possibly care one way or the other about this?
The commanche were sadistic, subhuman animals even by indian standards. Of course, they'll get the noble savage treatment.
Why does that native North American look like a black-hispanic Brazilian mystery mutt?
She's a literal native from new mexico anon.
Maybe that's what her mom told her when she shit that anchor baby out, but she's not native American. It's all over her face.
What does a native North American
>inb4 1/67th """native""" selfie
Really high cheekbones
Small body/below average height
No facial hair
No body hair
Perpetually angry looking face
basically the same as south-east asians
If they went full Apocalypto it could be promising. But we know they won't.
>dub
You stupid fricks.
checked
>flops in China
Now what?
this is the equivalent of directors shooting a film in color and then releasing a black and white version on bluray claiming it's how it was intended.
So this is only being released to Hulu with no theater release? I actually don't hate the premise, but I'm wary of anything going straight to streaming services.
It is going straight to Hulu but it was made for theatres. It's basically just a casualty of Fox being bought by Disney. It got made, Disney bought Fox and was like "we're not paying for theatrical distribution. Shit it out on a streaming service."
I'm cautiously optimistic then.
I think if there is enough demand there might be a theatrical release. The director is already hinting that there might be a limited theatrical release in the form of special showings, but we'll see. What I find funny is that the Predator film that seems like nobody has any faith in and is being set up to fail/be ignored might have a shot at being the best one since 2. But we'll see.
Of course an actual good movie would be set up to fail. I'm at the point of almost expecting that. I've heard a lot of good things about Maverick though. So maybe I'm just to cynical.
I just saw Maverick last night and I thought it was actually really good. It's not the greatest film of all time but it felt more like they set out to tell a good story as opposed to just making a cash-in. It's a solid story with good acting and cool jets doing cool jet stuff. Definitely worth the ticket price. It also helps that you can tell that they were really flying the jets for a lot of the scenes.
I plan on seeing it this weekend.
Not paying for any kind of distribution means it’s likely shit. It may be Disney making the call and they too may be shit, but it means they looked at it and saw it was a big poopy stinker.
Yeah... I'm sure all two of the people that speak Comanche fluently will be frickin stoked.
dub? they should have filmed the fricking movie in it.
though as i've said, the character trope is too shit to watch this anyway.
based, any culture that fought against muttland deserves the highest level of respect
This could be good. The birth of the myth.
actually kinda cool
I will watch your film now
cringe. should have been done in comanche and given an english dub. no respect was earned this day.
Damn, finally glad I learned Comanche all those years ago.
There won't even be any dialogue in the movie. Maybe one or two lines.
There was dialogue in the trailer.
the movie should be realeased with native speak and subs, ONLY. instant kino. Legendary KINO if you put the native speak in and have NO subtitles whatsoever. people will be confused but they will love it and praise it.
>movie shot twice
ill just watch whichever has the better takes lol