Seriously it’s even addressed in the movie. Puss didn’t get Shreks help at first because he gave up. As for afterwords when he was trying to steal the wish he had a time crunch since he knew Goldie and the bears were after it.
I don't think Death is something you can expect anyone to defeat. Plus Shrek has his own life and kids. You can't always call on the bug green man to fight your battles.
I don't think Death is something you can expect anyone to defeat. Plus Shrek has his own life and kids. You can't always call on the bug green man to fight your battles.
How does Shrek overcome literal Death?
this is all predicated on Puss knowing the wolf is Death, of which he doesn't until the climax of the film.
Shrek ain’t beating Death, the only way he could’ve helped is if Puss went to him to retire instead of Mama Luna’s. But there’s still 3 possible reasons why he didn’t. 1) he was too ashamed to admit to Shrek he was afraid of death. 2) knowing the wolf was after him, he didn’t want to endanger Shrek and his family. 3) he and Shrek had some sort of falling out, which would also explain why he left in the first place
shrek would shit on death
he jobbed to a fricking literal cat for fricks sakes
and yes, he was obviously trying
>jobbed
I mean, if Puss dying to him meant entirely that he didn't value his one life, but now he does so Death literally is incapable of outright taking his life, can we really call that jobbing?
That seems more like an act of God itself. Can't just fight fate like that.
It's probably because the first movie was a prequel/origin story at the beginning of his career.
It's easy to lose track of the fact 2 skips all the way to the end of his career when he's already mega famous and facing retirement.
Has anyone tried watching the YouTube “reaction” videos for this movie? All the “reactors” has the same thing at the end “What? So no one gets to make a wish? Why?”
Goddamn modern audiences really are fricking dumb.
Shrek ain’t beating Death, the only way he could’ve helped is if Puss went to him to retire instead of Mama Luna’s. But there’s still 3 possible reasons why he didn’t. 1) he was too ashamed to admit to Shrek he was afraid of death. 2) knowing the wolf was after him, he didn’t want to endanger Shrek and his family. 3) he and Shrek had some sort of falling out, which would also explain why he left in the first place
>All those posts about Shrek not being able to beat Death
Puss didn't know that until he was literally in springing distance of the Star, the question is why did he retire to a shitty cat lady's house instead of seeing if he could spend more time in the much more lofty Far Far Away residences.
Doesn’t really matter he didn’t know it was Death. In his mind it was still a highly skilled wolf bounty hunter that would kick Shrek’s ass. Also see
Shrek ain’t beating Death, the only way he could’ve helped is if Puss went to him to retire instead of Mama Luna’s. But there’s still 3 possible reasons why he didn’t. 1) he was too ashamed to admit to Shrek he was afraid of death. 2) knowing the wolf was after him, he didn’t want to endanger Shrek and his family. 3) he and Shrek had some sort of falling out, which would also explain why he left in the first place
>Puss didn't know that
uh.. yes he did? He found out at the bar where he met him. That's why spent half the movie running from him whenever he showed up. idk why you have to make something so simple into something more complicated than it actually is in order to find contrived reasons to nitpick a film >puss is on his last life >death is mad that he wasted 8 of his 9 lives being an egomaniac instead of appreciating what he had >death wants to kill him early >puss is terrified of death and spends half the film running from him
Attempting to make things more convoluted than they actually are adds nothing significant to the story or character motivations or writing. Puss getting Shrek or Humpty or calling in more friends wouldn't solve or change anything, and a person's response to their inevitable demise isn't going to be "let me call up the gang so I can beat it up".
Doesn't the Puss in Boots we see in this movie think he's the greatest fighter on the planet? He literally sings a song about how epic (literally) he is.
>being hunted by a scary good bounty hunter >hide out in some place you can easily escape if he comes after you again >trap yourself on a boat for however long it takes to get to Far Far Away
I know which one I'd pick
Okay, so you're just ignore the fact that Shrek has a family? Imagine how pissed Shrek would be. >Hey Shrek, mind helping me defeat the literal force of nature, Death, made physical? >Who the frick starts a conversation like that? I just sat down.
I think it's pretty obvious if you're a #1 Shrekxpert like me >TLW firmly establishes that since we've last seen Puss In Boots, he has developed an ego the size of a planet. Hell he wrote an entire song about how Great and how much of a fearless hero he is. He is much too stubborn and prideful to ask for help. >Shrek is likely too preoccupied with his own life to help out anyways. He has a family to look after, and as far as he's concerned his wife and kid's safety his #1 priority. Hell who knows he might be In a bit of an adventure of his own. >Then there's the fact Shrek literally lives in a place called "Far Far Away". Puss In Boots has a time crunch in this movie what with Goldi and Jack Horner after the wish and he definitely doesn't have time to travel an enormous distance just to ask for help.
Shrek >can hit a ship with a champagne bottle so hard the entire fricking ship sinks >can tank fire unaffected and needs wounds like an arrow to be pointed out for him to even notice it, very dull to pain >no diffs puss in boots who is already very strong >outruns dragons
and most importantly >farts are as powerful as dragon fire that can blow holes through mountains
Death would unironically die like a b***h if he had this much trouble vs puss in boots
Does Rumpelstiltskin changing reality so Shrek was never born count as universal Murder Flashpoint style? Or does Shrek’s undoing count as mass genocide of the wish realm
Why are some people so obsessed with trying to come up with "QUICK AND EASY SOLUTIONS TO THIS FICTIONAL PLOT"
Because then the plot wouldn't happen as it's supposed to
It's the biggest waste of time any discussion of a story could have
How does Shrek overcome literal Death?
Well he has cheated death multiple times.
the whole concept just flies ogre his head
He probably scales higher than Death.
anyone else could have defeated death because it was not heir time to die
He lives Far Far Away
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Seriously it’s even addressed in the movie. Puss didn’t get Shreks help at first because he gave up. As for afterwords when he was trying to steal the wish he had a time crunch since he knew Goldie and the bears were after it.
This but literally plus going into the sea is literally a death sentence
2nd post best post.
I don't think Death is something you can expect anyone to defeat. Plus Shrek has his own life and kids. You can't always call on the bug green man to fight your battles.
Shrek isn't some miracle man, he can't stop forces like Death.
>he's not a believer
Straight up
What kind of ridiculous name is that
Thats the best straight up joke I seen here
I thought Shrek was love AND life.
Shrek is life, which makes him a veritable foe for Death.
this is all predicated on Puss knowing the wolf is Death, of which he doesn't until the climax of the film.
shrek would shit on death
he jobbed to a fricking literal cat for fricks sakes
and yes, he was obviously trying
>jobbed
I mean, if Puss dying to him meant entirely that he didn't value his one life, but now he does so Death literally is incapable of outright taking his life, can we really call that jobbing?
That seems more like an act of God itself. Can't just fight fate like that.
they're in bad terms after Puss made a joke about the lynching of Ogres
its a puss in boots movie.
Shrek is now a family man
>Why not get Shrek's help?
Mike Myers costs money?
Mike Myers is rarely in anything anymore. I’m surprised he isn’t begging Dreamworks for more Shrek projects.
Rarely in anything? You mean like the television show he created and is currently staring in?
>Mike Myers is rarely in anything anymore. I’m surprised he isn’t begging Dreamworks for more Shrek projects.
he said he would always be open to doing Shrek anytime they needed him
Antonio Banderas doesn't?
Are you moronic?
He's already had a midlife crisis in Shrek 4, I'm not sure he's any more up for confronting mortality in his old age as Puss was.
What the frick is Shrek suppose to do? He’s a fricking orge not a fricking magical creature.
I thought this was a prequel?
Howdid you even come to think that? There was a flashback of him traveling with shrek and donkey
It's probably because the first movie was a prequel/origin story at the beginning of his career.
It's easy to lose track of the fact 2 skips all the way to the end of his career when he's already mega famous and facing retirement.
I didn't watch it, but I assume it was a prequel the whole time due to this.
That was the first movie
Shrek can't beat death...no one can.
Has anyone tried watching the YouTube “reaction” videos for this movie? All the “reactors” has the same thing at the end “What? So no one gets to make a wish? Why?”
Goddamn modern audiences really are fricking dumb.
Shrek ain’t beating Death, the only way he could’ve helped is if Puss went to him to retire instead of Mama Luna’s. But there’s still 3 possible reasons why he didn’t. 1) he was too ashamed to admit to Shrek he was afraid of death. 2) knowing the wolf was after him, he didn’t want to endanger Shrek and his family. 3) he and Shrek had some sort of falling out, which would also explain why he left in the first place
>All those posts about Shrek not being able to beat Death
Puss didn't know that until he was literally in springing distance of the Star, the question is why did he retire to a shitty cat lady's house instead of seeing if he could spend more time in the much more lofty Far Far Away residences.
Doesn’t really matter he didn’t know it was Death. In his mind it was still a highly skilled wolf bounty hunter that would kick Shrek’s ass. Also see
>Puss didn't know that
uh.. yes he did? He found out at the bar where he met him. That's why spent half the movie running from him whenever he showed up. idk why you have to make something so simple into something more complicated than it actually is in order to find contrived reasons to nitpick a film
>puss is on his last life
>death is mad that he wasted 8 of his 9 lives being an egomaniac instead of appreciating what he had
>death wants to kill him early
>puss is terrified of death and spends half the film running from him
Attempting to make things more convoluted than they actually are adds nothing significant to the story or character motivations or writing. Puss getting Shrek or Humpty or calling in more friends wouldn't solve or change anything, and a person's response to their inevitable demise isn't going to be "let me call up the gang so I can beat it up".
Puss knew he was after him and he couldn't kill the hunter. He did not know he was death or that he was stalking Puss.
>He found out at the bar where he met him.
What level of omega-moron is this?
Didn't he abdicate the throne? He's just a reguler ogre with kids now
Dulcinea
Didn't Mike Myers get cancelled or sothing?
If you call the Love Guru killing his career being cancelled, sure.
Is is THAT bad?
It's more that after watching the Pentaverate that's just his level of quality now.
Doesn't the Puss in Boots we see in this movie think he's the greatest fighter on the planet? He literally sings a song about how epic (literally) he is.
he's death straight up, there's nothing he could really do to save him
>being hunted by a scary good bounty hunter
>hide out in some place you can easily escape if he comes after you again
>trap yourself on a boat for however long it takes to get to Far Far Away
I know which one I'd pick
Okay, so you're just ignore the fact that Shrek has a family? Imagine how pissed Shrek would be.
>Hey Shrek, mind helping me defeat the literal force of nature, Death, made physical?
>Who the frick starts a conversation like that? I just sat down.
>Its a good question
It's straight up not.
Is he stupid?
shrek is overpowered
>reaches into bag
>pulls out hand with extended middle finger
was it a magic nanny bag by chance?
>magic gun that kills clouds
Sephiroth makes it look so hard
I think it's pretty obvious if you're a #1 Shrekxpert like me
>TLW firmly establishes that since we've last seen Puss In Boots, he has developed an ego the size of a planet. Hell he wrote an entire song about how Great and how much of a fearless hero he is. He is much too stubborn and prideful to ask for help.
>Shrek is likely too preoccupied with his own life to help out anyways. He has a family to look after, and as far as he's concerned his wife and kid's safety his #1 priority. Hell who knows he might be In a bit of an adventure of his own.
>Then there's the fact Shrek literally lives in a place called "Far Far Away". Puss In Boots has a time crunch in this movie what with Goldi and Jack Horner after the wish and he definitely doesn't have time to travel an enormous distance just to ask for help.
>watch movie
>get answer
>video is pointless
Youtube being useless once again.
Wait when does the puss in boots movie take place before or after meeting shrek
first one is first
second one after the fourth movie
Question is, will this homie actually show up for shrek 5 or was the last scene just a bait?
Is Shrek 5 even happening? That movie has been in development hell for years
If there's anything Shrek is good for, it's a one line retort.
Big Jack would've kicked Shrek's fricking ass
Shrek
>can hit a ship with a champagne bottle so hard the entire fricking ship sinks
>can tank fire unaffected and needs wounds like an arrow to be pointed out for him to even notice it, very dull to pain
>no diffs puss in boots who is already very strong
>outruns dragons
and most importantly
>farts are as powerful as dragon fire that can blow holes through mountains
Death would unironically die like a b***h if he had this much trouble vs puss in boots
Same reason Wolverine wasn't in the last few X-Men movies: You show a fan favorite more than 3 minutes and they take over the film.
Calling it right now Jack Horner gets a killshot on Shrek. Screenshot this.
jack horner was too good a character to use again. he had his film
He was barely in it
leaves you wanting more, doesn't it? better too little than too much
No, not really
agree to disagree.
So how does Shrek Forever After work with Death? Did Death have to kill the whole Wish Realm? Did he get mad when Shrek revived
Honestly I'm laughing at the idea of Death malding at this version of Puss taking way later to die because he just sits around all day for his 9 lives
I mean Puss there technically has given up adventuring
No, he is angry specifically at Puss wasting his lives away while blowing off Death. He would actually be proud of Shrek's self sacrifice
Does Rumpelstiltskin changing reality so Shrek was never born count as universal Murder Flashpoint style? Or does Shrek’s undoing count as mass genocide of the wish realm
It's no more different than your typical It's A Wonderful Life shenanigans. Death is a constant.
Shrek would've beat his ass.
you realize that at the end they had to take a ten week journey to get back to the ever after place shrek is right?
the impending quest was done within one week
Death would've done the big fire circle thingy to keep Shrek away. It's not the ogre's deal.
Just spit on the fire like he did against that villager
he can literally fart the fire away
Why are some people so obsessed with trying to come up with "QUICK AND EASY SOLUTIONS TO THIS FICTIONAL PLOT"
Because then the plot wouldn't happen as it's supposed to
It's the biggest waste of time any discussion of a story could have
>i'm death straight up!
>and i don't mean it-
because the movie takes place in a very short time frame, death is constantly looking for him and far away is far away so its not safeto head there
shrek took some pictures of him he would rather nobody see
The better question woul be "WHY DID PUSS LEFT FAR FAR AWAY? "
To go on adventures
He also seems more at home on fantasy spain