i swear this gay alien shit is where i stopped watching and im gay i literally dont give a frick about gay aliens and like dont care that they have an egg and want to circumcise it or whatever i stopped watching after that ep
it's kinda hilarious how red-pilled that is >the gay species is actively the most quarrelsome, fickle, prone to addiction, and prone to sexual degeneracy
They also turned their planet into a firing range for those weapons. They apparently had an ecological collapse and they decide to follow that up by shooting that ecology as hard as they can.
They are the most conservative and eugenic race. They pity humans and the other races because we depend on physically, mentally, and emotionally weak females to reproduce, and thus have to stifle our society's progress and security with their inclusion.
Their baby was born as a horribly deformed moronic female, and the humans wouldn't let them cure the child with medicine. In the end sanity prevailed.
This entire species is incomprehensible nonsense that doesn't make sense within its own setting or relate to real life in any meaningful way. They only exist for gay jokes.
i wish there were more bortus scenes and that every show wasnt 50% about the stupid Black person and her stupid Black person kids that I always skip past
She was pure kino in the role. Series is not the same without her. The new ensign in S03 just comes across as super annoying, hope they give her some proper character development soon.
keyalli was pretty bad in her introduction but she's a lot let obnoxious now. she's still a far cry from being a good character but she isn't actively making every scene she's in cringey anymore
>Isaac can't feel bad about anything >supposed intelligent races that are aware Isaac alone betrayed his kind and can't feel shit about their feelings are absolutely seething
god, i love this guy
Bro, I like the show but that episode was cringe over the top gay, and is probably the only reason it was overwhelmingly hyped in season two after being panned in season one.
It mostly sucks so far because the last 2 episodes were like bad TNG episodes. Also the show is staged as a comedy. Its not casted, costumed, directed, or produced in any way with the intention of playing it straight.
With comedy you can have a story that's interesting but would normally break suspension of disbelief. It also insulates you from "boring" sci fi when you don't write well. Orville had a good balance and I don't know why they are doing this.
I don't think it sucked so far. I do think episode 1 went too hard on drama, though. Episode 2 similarly did for the first 15min but then was fine. And episode 3 was all around good.
2 and 3 are action episodes and they aren't done well. I especially hate 3 because it's a nightmare episode where one inconsequential scenario happens after another and we know nothing is real and the plot isn't advancing. Then there's the inevitable explanation to the audience at the end why the show wasted your time. Why even film this shit.
It's more like a "god like beings are moronic and meant you no harm" episode. TOS and TNG had plenty of them. It's not a Q episode because Q episodes solved the problems with that episode type and ultimately replaced them.
I get some people were turned off by the Bortus/Moclan arc some of the themes tackled were interesting others not so much. But it helped flesh out the the world showing that the Planetary Union have to deal with a lot of shit because of cultural differences and internal diplomacy just doesn't cut it.
Like anons mentioned Moclan's produce the tech for the Planetary Union and because of that they kind of have set a bad precedent by kissing their ass and allowing their goofy gay shit. Then they found out about the forcing male genders stuff and we're powerless to stop it and that fricked with Bortus, the exiled women thing was stupid, but the political implications were interesting because Moclan held all the chips.
They went overboard with some of it for comedy sake like the jerking off in the simulator but the way they used that as means to cause a disaster for the ship was interesting.
It was a mix bag for me but overall I accepted it and enjoyed part of it.
Frick Klyden tho he should have died or something by now.
Yeah seth and the guy that plays Gordon are doing a Ted tv series, Seth said it was okay if they wanted to continue the show without him. That's why they brought on Braga and some TNG writers for season 3 and changed to a more serious and less comedic tone.
This dude just quits every project and then the quality goes up 300% after he leaves
2 years ago
Anonymous
Covid prevented season 3, then yidsney bought Fox and shelved it and then put it on hulu and they did it only because it was already written and pre-production was done. Seth said season 3 is 10 mini-movies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>mini-movies
That would be based if they announced it that way.
That sucks. I actually liked Ed and Gordon. At least we'll still have Isaac and Bortus.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hard to carry a show with that much time between seasons, same happened to better call saul. So they are wrapping up what they can and moving on instead of just leaving everyone hangingnl Iike what normally happens.
Yeah seth and the guy that plays Gordon are doing a Ted tv series, Seth said it was okay if they wanted to continue the show without him. That's why they brought on Braga and some TNG writers for season 3 and changed to a more serious and less comedic tone.
Few people want seth in this show but pulling him out now is unconscionable. Gordon is the only comedic relief left in a show that is intentionally not funny anymore. There's no way this gets a season 4.
I hate his politics, but he is kinda comfy playing a captain in over his head and working with what he's got. He's like the anti-Picard but still filling the same roll.
As to why I don't like him, I can't decide how much of it is his likeness, or how is character is designed/written
I feel like I'm watching a self-idealized version of seth mcfarlane instead of "the captain on the orville show". The character is a compassionate, reasonable, well spoken man who says funny lines sometimes. It's like there's nothing that's supposed to be a funny o, ironic or interesting take on the captain when their should be, except that his first officer is a failed marriage. But some characters like claire and talla don't have gimmicks like that, and they work well. I guess what I'm trying to say is, with unexplained reasoning, something like captain quincy taggart could have been a better fit for the show and you move the voice of reason to someone else.
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Anonymous
Started out as self-deprecating when it was a TNG comedy rip-off, but he really just wanted to do a TOS and TNG show when networks abandoned that style of trek. He got geriatric writers from TNG and Brannon Braga to produce, because TNG was the best stage to tell stories that aren't overly dramatic and still have an optimistis of space exploration that kinda died with DS9 and VOY.
I like that they actually confronted the issue of cultural differences.
In Star Trek Betazed has some monarchy stuff going on while Vulcan seems absurdly authoritarian and the Federation's good allies the Klingons are absurdly evil and the opposite of all the Federation's values and none of it is ever dealt with. They just kinda ignore it all.
Right like how Krill went from this mysterious threat they knew little about but due to them stealing pages from their sacred book and a shared threat they've formed a temporary alliance.
The Moclan gender stuff while a cultural difference but at it's core involves a living life's rights issues.
Wanting to round up an entire group of their race and force gender reassignment is insane and the union had to question it.
Star Trek took very utopian approach to aliens species aligned with them. Even some episodes they would rather adopt or humor different customs instead of point out they didn't agree with them. I think DS9 at the time was the only series that had Earthlings and push back at certain customs or acts. Especially the Ferengi who would have run amok if the Federation member didn't tell them no or to frick off with their bullshit.
Every moclan episode was good. Diplomacy fails because the moclan perspective is logically consistent. They aren't written to be moronic, which star trek did a lot
I find relationship dramas on tv shows annoying and frustrating, I guess, since it's easy for us to judge and come up with overtly simplistic solutions as outsiders looking in. But Bortus and Klyden's bickering is somewhat funny to watch, 'cause it's just so over the top and frank, and seems to knowingly lean into the comedic absurdities of marriage.
Is that c**t still on the show? I thought he tried to murder Bortus or something last season.
Ok that is funny. Bortus is a good character.
i swear this gay alien shit is where i stopped watching and im gay i literally dont give a frick about gay aliens and like dont care that they have an egg and want to circumcise it or whatever i stopped watching after that ep
The gay klingons are the most problem prone member of the galactic union, incidentally they also manufacture all the weapons for the union.
it's kinda hilarious how red-pilled that is
>the gay species is actively the most quarrelsome, fickle, prone to addiction, and prone to sexual degeneracy
They also turned their planet into a firing range for those weapons. They apparently had an ecological collapse and they decide to follow that up by shooting that ecology as hard as they can.
> They apparently had an ecological collapse and they decide to follow that up by shooting that ecology as hard as they can.
That’s actually pretty fricking based ngl, gigachad.jpg
my man can eat a fricking cup and fork
It's never brought up again after that episode.
It's mentioned in a couple. They did upgrades to the ship.
they threaten to stop so in face of the invasion because muh women
it's really fricking funny
>He doesn't like the gayliens
Moclans are the ones who are against circumcision, they called out the hoomans for doing it
He looks better with the stache, don't know why everyone was giving him shit.
Based (agreeable)
Based Gordon.
They are the most conservative and eugenic race. They pity humans and the other races because we depend on physically, mentally, and emotionally weak females to reproduce, and thus have to stifle our society's progress and security with their inclusion.
Their baby was born as a horribly deformed moronic female, and the humans wouldn't let them cure the child with medicine. In the end sanity prevailed.
The only parts of the show that were even remotely funny
I will not share the sexual event with you Bortus
>I resent you Klyden.
>troony is a complete psychopath
Subtle redpill
>forces troony lifestyle on child
>shown to be violently psychotic
>actively ruins things for homosexuals
shit, nobody tell twitter
This entire species is incomprehensible nonsense that doesn't make sense within its own setting or relate to real life in any meaningful way. They only exist for gay jokes.
>They only exist for gay jokes
Getting addicted to cigarettes subplot was amusing.
>They only exist for gay jokes.
>They only exist for gay jokes.
I’m fine with this
I have experienced over 30 rotations around our system's star, but still not the sexual event.
i wish there were more bortus scenes and that every show wasnt 50% about the stupid Black person and her stupid Black person kids that I always skip past
I miss Alara, bros.
She was pure kino in the role. Series is not the same without her. The new ensign in S03 just comes across as super annoying, hope they give her some proper character development soon.
cant do that. instead we need another 10 scenes about annoying Black person kids whining
keyalli was pretty bad in her introduction but she's a lot let obnoxious now. she's still a far cry from being a good character but she isn't actively making every scene she's in cringey anymore
she was so adorable
She is in that new movie game The Quarry. Sound career move
I wish she'd handle my pickle.
We are getting married
Am I invited to the wedding? I would like the salmon please.
Lucky girl to have you anon
>Isaac can't feel bad about anything
>supposed intelligent races that are aware Isaac alone betrayed his kind and can't feel shit about their feelings are absolutely seething
god, i love this guy
He betrayed his race because of pair of sad niglets
no
he betrayed his race because their goal to exterminate all biological life was illogical and founded on incomplete data
all the biologicals teaming up and managing to put up a fight is proving him right
It was the sad niglets
no
He is basically Worf right?
Pretty much but not as gay
Worf loved a transwoman.
Yeah, the Moculans aren't gay. They are a single gendered species. Now the not so subtle storyline was fricking gay.
Bro, I like the show but that episode was cringe over the top gay, and is probably the only reason it was overwhelmingly hyped in season two after being panned in season one.
If Worf wasn't a LARPer, maybe.
Klyden is such a fricking homosexual
Bortus deserves so much better
klyden is the best character on the show.
fricking based mocluans
I like this show even though I hate Seth MacFarlane's smug voice. The guy needs to just write or whatever then never be a character in his own shows
So they are just going straight TNG this season? There hasn't been much comedy.
Stop complaining. It's better this way.
Not complaining, just noticed it has changed tone
Braga is producing and they have a bunch of writers from TNG is what I heard.
Seth implied it's what he wanted to do from the beginning but couldn't get Fox to go along.
You can still see a joke here and there.
It mostly sucks so far because the last 2 episodes were like bad TNG episodes. Also the show is staged as a comedy. Its not casted, costumed, directed, or produced in any way with the intention of playing it straight.
With comedy you can have a story that's interesting but would normally break suspension of disbelief. It also insulates you from "boring" sci fi when you don't write well. Orville had a good balance and I don't know why they are doing this.
Look at this wannabe critic homosexual that wakes up just to b***h like a sexless c**t about literally everything. What a fricking dork.
I don't think it sucked so far. I do think episode 1 went too hard on drama, though. Episode 2 similarly did for the first 15min but then was fine. And episode 3 was all around good.
I liked episode 1. The best episodes are dramas.
2 and 3 are action episodes and they aren't done well. I especially hate 3 because it's a nightmare episode where one inconsequential scenario happens after another and we know nothing is real and the plot isn't advancing. Then there's the inevitable explanation to the audience at the end why the show wasted your time. Why even film this shit.
>trips
latchkum!
>I especially hate 3
It felt like a good, old fashioned TOS episode. Probably why I like it.
But I see why you didn't.
This, it's just nutrek discord trannies talking shit because /trek/ hates them and the shows they shill.
>The Orville is homosexual central
We know
I’m kinda interested how the biological Borg and Qelly races are going to shake things up. This show is straight up TNG and I’m cool with that.
Oh I just realized that this was a Q episode.
It's more like a "god like beings are moronic and meant you no harm" episode. TOS and TNG had plenty of them. It's not a Q episode because Q episodes solved the problems with that episode type and ultimately replaced them.
The blonde XOs arguments were atrocious bad but I think we the audience were supposed to find them convincing.
I get some people were turned off by the Bortus/Moclan arc some of the themes tackled were interesting others not so much. But it helped flesh out the the world showing that the Planetary Union have to deal with a lot of shit because of cultural differences and internal diplomacy just doesn't cut it.
Like anons mentioned Moclan's produce the tech for the Planetary Union and because of that they kind of have set a bad precedent by kissing their ass and allowing their goofy gay shit. Then they found out about the forcing male genders stuff and we're powerless to stop it and that fricked with Bortus, the exiled women thing was stupid, but the political implications were interesting because Moclan held all the chips.
They went overboard with some of it for comedy sake like the jerking off in the simulator but the way they used that as means to cause a disaster for the ship was interesting.
It was a mix bag for me but overall I accepted it and enjoyed part of it.
Frick Klyden tho he should have died or something by now.
Bortus is going to die this season
Nah it's going to be Seth Macfarlane, he's moving on to do a Ted show. So if it has another season it will be with a new lead.
Really? That sucks
Yeah seth and the guy that plays Gordon are doing a Ted tv series, Seth said it was okay if they wanted to continue the show without him. That's why they brought on Braga and some TNG writers for season 3 and changed to a more serious and less comedic tone.
This dude just quits every project and then the quality goes up 300% after he leaves
Covid prevented season 3, then yidsney bought Fox and shelved it and then put it on hulu and they did it only because it was already written and pre-production was done. Seth said season 3 is 10 mini-movies.
>mini-movies
That would be based if they announced it that way.
Damn those are my favorite two characters
That sucks. I actually liked Ed and Gordon. At least we'll still have Isaac and Bortus.
Hard to carry a show with that much time between seasons, same happened to better call saul. So they are wrapping up what they can and moving on instead of just leaving everyone hangingnl Iike what normally happens.
🙁
Few people want seth in this show but pulling him out now is unconscionable. Gordon is the only comedic relief left in a show that is intentionally not funny anymore. There's no way this gets a season 4.
I don't mind Seth on the show at all.
I hate his politics, but he is kinda comfy playing a captain in over his head and working with what he's got. He's like the anti-Picard but still filling the same roll.
As to why I don't like him, I can't decide how much of it is his likeness, or how is character is designed/written
I feel like I'm watching a self-idealized version of seth mcfarlane instead of "the captain on the orville show". The character is a compassionate, reasonable, well spoken man who says funny lines sometimes. It's like there's nothing that's supposed to be a funny o, ironic or interesting take on the captain when their should be, except that his first officer is a failed marriage. But some characters like claire and talla don't have gimmicks like that, and they work well. I guess what I'm trying to say is, with unexplained reasoning, something like captain quincy taggart could have been a better fit for the show and you move the voice of reason to someone else.
Started out as self-deprecating when it was a TNG comedy rip-off, but he really just wanted to do a TOS and TNG show when networks abandoned that style of trek. He got geriatric writers from TNG and Brannon Braga to produce, because TNG was the best stage to tell stories that aren't overly dramatic and still have an optimistis of space exploration that kinda died with DS9 and VOY.
I like that they actually confronted the issue of cultural differences.
In Star Trek Betazed has some monarchy stuff going on while Vulcan seems absurdly authoritarian and the Federation's good allies the Klingons are absurdly evil and the opposite of all the Federation's values and none of it is ever dealt with. They just kinda ignore it all.
Right like how Krill went from this mysterious threat they knew little about but due to them stealing pages from their sacred book and a shared threat they've formed a temporary alliance.
The Moclan gender stuff while a cultural difference but at it's core involves a living life's rights issues.
Wanting to round up an entire group of their race and force gender reassignment is insane and the union had to question it.
Star Trek took very utopian approach to aliens species aligned with them. Even some episodes they would rather adopt or humor different customs instead of point out they didn't agree with them. I think DS9 at the time was the only series that had Earthlings and push back at certain customs or acts. Especially the Ferengi who would have run amok if the Federation member didn't tell them no or to frick off with their bullshit.
Every moclan episode was good. Diplomacy fails because the moclan perspective is logically consistent. They aren't written to be moronic, which star trek did a lot
how's S3 so far?
3 eps in and its just Ok, they keep reintroducing older concepts though.
Kino, as always.
I find relationship dramas on tv shows annoying and frustrating, I guess, since it's easy for us to judge and come up with overtly simplistic solutions as outsiders looking in. But Bortus and Klyden's bickering is somewhat funny to watch, 'cause it's just so over the top and frank, and seems to knowingly lean into the comedic absurdities of marriage.