Wasn't this supposed to eventually lead to Superman becoming a benevolent dictator or am I thinking of another writer's plotline that got hard quashed by editorial?
That's what happens when you reboot with only a few months to prepare and completely blindside your creators with the reboot.
Notice how the majority of the good books and their creators were already halfway planned before the reboot was, like Aquaman, Swamp Thing, Batman (CoO meant to be a Dickbats arc after Black Mirror). And how books/characters completely upended by the reboot were mediocre at best and were mostly horrible, like Teen Titans, RHATO, Nightwing, Batgirl, etc.
All of Morrison's Superman is the same Superman. The Superman in Action Comics grows up to be the Superman in The Authority who grows up to be the Superman in All-Star Superman who grows up to be the Superman in JLA.
I know this theory, that Morrison is only working with Kirby and his own DC canon.
But you got the timing wrong.
New 52 Action Comics becomes JLA's Superman, which becomes The AUthority's Superman, which becomes All-Star Superman which becomes DC One Millions.
>i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah >i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah >i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah >i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah >i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah
But that's not the problem. since the 90's superman franchise driven by nostalgia and sometimes with some new ideas, but the plot of this thing is terrible, it's like dc asked morrison to write all star superman 2, but plotless
What's worse is that Morrison refused to share his plans with anyone, so George Perez didn't even know if Ma and Pa Kent were alive in the present day among many other important status quo things left in limo, which is one of the reasons he left the Superman book.
There was no plan, so nobody knew what was canon in the New 52 or what wasn't. Remember how they edited out references to there being prior teams of Teen Titans in collected editions because they decided that actually the New 52 Titans were the first and only incarnation now? Or how they insisted that Identity Crisis was still canon even though that would be impossible because only the core 7 JL members had ever been part of the team and other characters who were involved didn't even exist?
This wasn't about the wider problems with the New 52 reboot, this was about there being two Superman books, and one writer refusing to collaborate with the other at all. There are similar stories about Morrison not sharing his plans with anyone when he worked on the Batman and X-Men books, but when you actually manage to make one of the most well-liked guys in the business quit a book because you won't talk to him, it doesn't say anything good about you.
This still comes back to problems with the New 52 reboot, but not like that anon you replied to thought.
DC should've asked Morrison a year ahead of time instead of around early 2011 (this was said in an interview somewhere but I forget where)
Morrison should've had a concrete plan of the past to share that Perez could work with without causing problems, or work on the book further in advance, which leads back to the first point.
Editorial should've told Morrison that everyone needed to have everything together because this was a reboot.
Here's another problem--The first six issues of Morrison's Action are a decent story... but it doesn't fully establish the new world, in the way that Byrne's Man of Steel did or Johns' Secret Origin did. While I think Morrison is usually a better writer than both Byrne and Johns, With Byrne's and Johns' you get a better idea of Superman's world and history in six issues.
>What's worse is that Morrison refused to share his plans with anyone, so George Perez didn't even know if Ma and Pa Kent were alive in the present day among many other important status quo things
Holy frick this is hilarious. Grant like wtf you dick you’re making this worse for the character at the end of the day.
Morrison wanted to do 2 things with this:
1) Create a new origin story that involved most of Superman's villains.
2) Perfect the non-linear story style he's been trying to get down since the late 80's.
He didn't quite stick the landing on either.
>He didn't quite stick the landing on either.
Which is more often than not the case for Morrison and his long runs.
Yes, there are exceptions to the rule.
But almost anything over 12+ issues and he chokes the last minute jumpshot to win.
He's great with 3 / 6 issue minis.
You know at the time a lot of the fellow supesgays were loving this and telling me I’m too dumb to understand what Morrison was writing. Grant is my fave all time hands down and I just could not truly care much about this run as it just felt all over the damn place but that could have been more of the new52 just being a mess at that time
The New 52 failed in a lot of ways, one underrated way is how its intent as a jump on point failed miserably
Grant Morrison's Action Comics run is best if you've read a ton of Superman comics over the years and understand what he's doing. But the intent of the New 52 was being a jump on point
Imagine being some kid who's never read Superman before. So you go get Action Comics #1 to start
What the hell? How are you supposed to follow any of this?
I really liked it but I love Morrison's writing, only things he wrote I really didn't care for were Happy! and Joe the Barbarian. Currently reading his green lantern run and loving it as well.
I really thought it was a well conceived run with a beginning, development, and end. His way of incorporating the nu52 costume was well thought of, and the run ends rather well.
Wasn't this supposed to eventually lead to Superman becoming a benevolent dictator or am I thinking of another writer's plotline that got hard quashed by editorial?
That's what happens when you reboot with only a few months to prepare and completely blindside your creators with the reboot.
Notice how the majority of the good books and their creators were already halfway planned before the reboot was, like Aquaman, Swamp Thing, Batman (CoO meant to be a Dickbats arc after Black Mirror). And how books/characters completely upended by the reboot were mediocre at best and were mostly horrible, like Teen Titans, RHATO, Nightwing, Batgirl, etc.
That's Superman and the Authority.
>Superman and the Authority
Morrison Superman is Morrison Superman.
All of Morrison's Superman is the same Superman. The Superman in Action Comics grows up to be the Superman in The Authority who grows up to be the Superman in All-Star Superman who grows up to be the Superman in JLA.
That doesnt even make any sebse you fricking moron, shut the frick up
>Doesn’t know Morrison sees everything with a character history as canon https://youtu.be/Fut9DHWzi50
I know this theory, that Morrison is only working with Kirby and his own DC canon.
But you got the timing wrong.
New 52 Action Comics becomes JLA's Superman, which becomes The AUthority's Superman, which becomes All-Star Superman which becomes DC One Millions.
>i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah
>i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah
>i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah
>i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah
>i am so smart i am so smart la lah la lah
Postmodernism is a hell of a drug.
But that's not the problem. since the 90's superman franchise driven by nostalgia and sometimes with some new ideas, but the plot of this thing is terrible, it's like dc asked morrison to write all star superman 2, but plotless
>since the 90's superman franchise driven by nostalgia and sometimes with some new ideas
Jon Kent's appearance really is the exception to this.
Morrison thinks he's a woman, what did you expect?
rag morales carry the hole thing, last issues are great Xadu is great
What's worse is that Morrison refused to share his plans with anyone, so George Perez didn't even know if Ma and Pa Kent were alive in the present day among many other important status quo things left in limo, which is one of the reasons he left the Superman book.
There was no plan, so nobody knew what was canon in the New 52 or what wasn't. Remember how they edited out references to there being prior teams of Teen Titans in collected editions because they decided that actually the New 52 Titans were the first and only incarnation now? Or how they insisted that Identity Crisis was still canon even though that would be impossible because only the core 7 JL members had ever been part of the team and other characters who were involved didn't even exist?
This wasn't about the wider problems with the New 52 reboot, this was about there being two Superman books, and one writer refusing to collaborate with the other at all. There are similar stories about Morrison not sharing his plans with anyone when he worked on the Batman and X-Men books, but when you actually manage to make one of the most well-liked guys in the business quit a book because you won't talk to him, it doesn't say anything good about you.
Was Alan Moore right all along?
This still comes back to problems with the New 52 reboot, but not like that anon you replied to thought.
DC should've asked Morrison a year ahead of time instead of around early 2011 (this was said in an interview somewhere but I forget where)
Morrison should've had a concrete plan of the past to share that Perez could work with without causing problems, or work on the book further in advance, which leads back to the first point.
Editorial should've told Morrison that everyone needed to have everything together because this was a reboot.
Here's another problem--The first six issues of Morrison's Action are a decent story... but it doesn't fully establish the new world, in the way that Byrne's Man of Steel did or Johns' Secret Origin did. While I think Morrison is usually a better writer than both Byrne and Johns, With Byrne's and Johns' you get a better idea of Superman's world and history in six issues.
>What's worse is that Morrison refused to share his plans with anyone, so George Perez didn't even know if Ma and Pa Kent were alive in the present day among many other important status quo things
Holy frick this is hilarious. Grant like wtf you dick you’re making this worse for the character at the end of the day.
Morrison wanted to do 2 things with this:
1) Create a new origin story that involved most of Superman's villains.
2) Perfect the non-linear story style he's been trying to get down since the late 80's.
He didn't quite stick the landing on either.
>He didn't quite stick the landing on either.
Which is more often than not the case for Morrison and his long runs.
Yes, there are exceptions to the rule.
But almost anything over 12+ issues and he chokes the last minute jumpshot to win.
He's great with 3 / 6 issue minis.
This is also one of the best New 52 books.
Yeah, those were dark times.
>one of the best
No it wasn't.
Yes it was.
Yes, it really was.
The book isn't even good, but it gets into the top 10 by default.
I liked it
"Man, Golden age stories sure were awesome" was probably what he was thinking
You know at the time a lot of the fellow supesgays were loving this and telling me I’m too dumb to understand what Morrison was writing. Grant is my fave all time hands down and I just could not truly care much about this run as it just felt all over the damn place but that could have been more of the new52 just being a mess at that time
The New 52 failed in a lot of ways, one underrated way is how its intent as a jump on point failed miserably
Grant Morrison's Action Comics run is best if you've read a ton of Superman comics over the years and understand what he's doing. But the intent of the New 52 was being a jump on point
Imagine being some kid who's never read Superman before. So you go get Action Comics #1 to start
What the hell? How are you supposed to follow any of this?
I really liked it but I love Morrison's writing, only things he wrote I really didn't care for were Happy! and Joe the Barbarian. Currently reading his green lantern run and loving it as well.
I really thought it was a well conceived run with a beginning, development, and end. His way of incorporating the nu52 costume was well thought of, and the run ends rather well.