They didn't throw asteroids through a wormhole. The bugs jumped through the wormhole and used their ass nukes to redirect the asteroids to hit Buenos Aires.
It's all in the book you and Verhoeven clearly didn't read.
Nigga did you watch that scene where they meet the Asteroid on their path in fucking SPACE (which is like a billion times more unlikely than shooting a bullet with a bullet) and then they slowly move past it at about 20mph and barely avoid it and then it hits earth the next day?
The bug method of space travel is more realistic than the human method. So that being said, you can't use "realism" as the grounds for suggesting that its a false flag attack because the bugs are too far away
No, it isn't. The book is a gay polemic about how cool the military is, and it shits itself by making the main character brown! BROWN! The film is a satire of fascism that unintentionally makes clear that fascism is actually about beautiful people doing cool shit, which it is.
Anons like this: always interest me. They are a testament to how powerful military propaganda is. The military has brainwashed people so effectively that their brains actually interpret anti-war propaganda such as Starship Troopers to be pro-war. This Anon is the exact sort of person who would join the MI and get eaten by a bug a few seconds after getting off the ship.
Warp speed/worm holes.
The movie makes a point of saying that the bugs are more sophisticated than they appear. Plus the movie established that FTL is a thing (they even spend screen time showing the warp travel). It stands the reason the bugs have access to FTL in some form.
There is also the possibility that the bug asteroids were launched millions of years ago and are all over the galaxy
>Bugs make careful precise calculations to toss comet into wormhole and have knowledge of what a wormhole even is and where earth is >human leadership is surprised when there are smart bugs
Federation Intel knew about the brain bugs. That's why they knowingly sent MI into that trap. >precise calculations
Stop thinking like a human. These asteroids are not expensive space ships. They can just fling them in the vague direction and if 1 out of a 1000 make it, it's a success
No it doesn't. Just launch the fucking asteroid and hope it hits something eventually. They have unlimited asteroids due to the brutal gravity of the dual star system.
It absolutely does, do you think if maps and computers didn't exist we'd just randomly send missiles across the ocean in the hopes it might possibly hit the middle east? You still have to have some kind of vague idea of where the enemy might be, it's an unimaginably large galaxy.
>They can just fling them in the vague direction and if 1 out of a 1000 make it, it's a success
Lol
lmao
do you have any fucking idea how large space is?
You could throw a trillion of them and none of them would fucking hit anything without targeting. Literally millions of years could go by and they wouldn't have interacted with anything.
Extra solar objects pass thru our solar system all the time. One could imagine that the heat of the sun "wakes" dormant bugs who can then direct the asteroid towards the earth. Clearly the bugs can launch an asteroid out into interstellar space, so it's reasonable they could slow it down to increase chance of an encounter.
You realize this is the exact conversation they had in the movie on the talk show? Just in more detail.
They don't need technology to have access to it in "some form". The movie gave humans warp technology so it's clear it's not taking the realities of space travel seriously.
People dont seem to realize that bugs colonized planets far of their home world. Its entirely possible that they colonized a planet near earth and sent the asteroid towards our planet with the plasma shooting bug
Why didn't the asteroid defense system they show on the internet catch it? And more importantly, why did military radar lose the 9/11 flights for hours?
The movie is a hack job. In the book, the bugs are attacking human colonies which is why the Federation declares war on them and the war with the bugs is just one of the many wars the Federation is waging across the galaxy. The bugs are also seen as easy as fuck to subjugate and the skinnier put up more of a fight despite being basically alien Somalians
The bugs in the movie blasted the Klendathu invasion fleet out of orbit using warp plasma asteroids with the same pin-point accuracy. Or are you also implying the Federation destroyed half their own space force for another false flag? Humanity just completely underestimated the Bugs. They also readily admit in the propaganda that it was technically the humans that encroached on Bug territory which provoked the attack, albeit it was unauthorized settlers and the Bugs failed to note the distinction. There was nothing that suggests Buenos Aires was anything other than a cheap shot that Humanity probably should have been expecting but didn't because of human arrogance.
Excellent points! The bugs have many capabilities that are unexpected.
With the absence of any other "conspiracy" elements or plot in the script, it seems out of place to think that the asteroid attack is a false flag. Especially when you consider that the movie isn't focusing on space realism.
>bugs can shred body armor and metal with ease
🙂 >bugs can drain the brain and memories of humans with their proboscis
🙂 >bugs can shoot superheated plasma to space from their asses
🙂 >bugs can manipulate asteroids and wormholes to bombard planets
:O <( uuuh sweatie? that's too impossible for the bugs to do, it is clearly a false flag, ok? educate yourself)
Tbf the wormhole thing isn't in the movie, but it fits with the tone of the movie. One could imagine a cut scene that explains it.
You could also argue that the Federation propaganda is overly simplified for the public and security ( so it just shows the humans and bugs at opposite ends of the galaxy)
shes such a stud
damn I might take her over carmen
you'd regret either choice
at least with Diz you could tan her, cut her hair short, and roleplay that shes vaqauez from Aliens every so often. I think she'd be down to fuck other women with you too.
>Buenos Aires >white
Wake up sheeple, they were never really on earth. They were all clones with implanted false memories whose only task in life was to kill bugs.
>hurr durr space is too big for the bugs to intentionally hit earth
You know what gravity is, right? It's that thing that means you can't jump off into space, there's pressure drawing you and everything else on earth towards the center of the planets mass. So it is with asteroids. Our planet has been hit with a cataclysmic asteroid at least once in the last 5 billion years and that was actual chance. If an intelligent force could shoot asteroids into our solar system they would be all but guaranteed to hit a planet each time.
But it's even easier then that. They explicitly state a year before Johnny joins the army that the bugs are colonizing other planets by launching their spore into space. They obviously know about hitting planets but more importantly, they occupy more planets than just their home system on the other side of the galaxy. They are launching asteroids from planets closer to earth. After the first sky marshal is replaced the humans start clearing outlying planets of bugs and even find brain bugs on planets other than the bug home world.
Bugs did Buenos Aires and you're a traitor if you don't agree.
All the woeful retards ITT
Using a false flag to enter a bloody war with with enemy that in the first place wanted to be left alone and wad encroached upon by ambitious humans is probably the most believable thing in the story
It even makes it a big deal that the sky captain or whatever they call the position steps down afterwords, which often happens after false flag attacks
And even if a bunch of bugs that have NO mechanical devices, NO radar capabilities, not even a friggin wheel, somehow pull of an extraordinarily complex attack, from literally millions of light-years away, with pinpoint precision, and in an extremely tight time-line
They don't invade earth outright, they don't send 50 asteroids, they don't hit DC or a capital
And all this so the largest military device in the history of man has an excuse to charge across the galaxy and smash some fucking bugs! btw I'm from Buenos Aires and i say kill em all!
>implied
Its flat out stated in the book
The movie is almost, but not entirely, unrelated to the book.
No it's not. The book isn't even centered around the war with the bugs, it's treated as a side plot
Sure, only it isn't at all
Complete BS
No its not. Its never hinted or pointed at. Why do you people spread this, is this some discord insider jerkoff joke?
Proofs?
No shit.
That's not proof. That's some retard not understanding how space works. It happens all the time in movies.
So you're saying that the government is unreliable?
No I'm saying Verhoeven doesn't understand how space. Just like JJ Abrahms with that starkiller base shit.
It's not retarded, fiction needs a flexible sense of time and distance for stories to work.
Humans went from Earth to Bugspace just fine. Ftl is clearly a thing. No reason the bugs couldn't throw open a portal or something.
>these bugs just happened to throw an asteroid in the precise wormhole at the precise time it needed to be thrown no biggie bro
They used controlled ftl like humans do.
They didn't throw asteroids through a wormhole. The bugs jumped through the wormhole and used their ass nukes to redirect the asteroids to hit Buenos Aires.
It's all in the book you and Verhoeven clearly didn't read.
Nigga did you watch that scene where they meet the Asteroid on their path in fucking SPACE (which is like a billion times more unlikely than shooting a bullet with a bullet) and then they slowly move past it at about 20mph and barely avoid it and then it hits earth the next day?
Space in this movie isn't real space.
It would have to be. How do they get asteroids to travel faster than light to make the distance from Klendathu all the way to earth?
The bug method of space travel is more realistic than the human method. So that being said, you can't use "realism" as the grounds for suggesting that its a false flag attack because the bugs are too far away
How did the bugs suck out human brains and digest + understand the memories? They've got their ways
No, it isn't. The book is a gay polemic about how cool the military is, and it shits itself by making the main character brown! BROWN! The film is a satire of fascism that unintentionally makes clear that fascism is actually about beautiful people doing cool shit, which it is.
Anons like this: always interest me. They are a testament to how powerful military propaganda is. The military has brainwashed people so effectively that their brains actually interpret anti-war propaganda such as Starship Troopers to be pro-war. This Anon is the exact sort of person who would join the MI and get eaten by a bug a few seconds after getting off the ship.
decent bait
>fascism is actually about beautiful people doing cool shit
Fascism is about getting brainlets like you to die for the elites, kiddo
>getting brainlets like you to die for the elites, kiddo
but that's democracy
it's every government
>unintentionally
How can you miss the point this fucking hard?
Ironically the Federation isn't even fascist, the director is just a butthurt israelite who thought the book glorified Nazis
The federation is a militarist libtards wet dream nothing more.
The difference between a facist and a militarist libtard is pretty marginal
Cope maggot, fascism is Marxist Judaism for corporate entities.
>Ends up with his dad as his subordinate sergeant
That whole storyline was just weird
mournful breasts
Name 1 American war that wasn't started by a false flag.
The Cola Wars
The Kindling Wars
every war
based america stomping on shitskins constantly
matzos
is that max payne?
Warp speed/worm holes.
The movie makes a point of saying that the bugs are more sophisticated than they appear. Plus the movie established that FTL is a thing (they even spend screen time showing the warp travel). It stands the reason the bugs have access to FTL in some form.
There is also the possibility that the bug asteroids were launched millions of years ago and are all over the galaxy
>Bugs make careful precise calculations to toss comet into wormhole and have knowledge of what a wormhole even is and where earth is
>human leadership is surprised when there are smart bugs
Federation Intel knew about the brain bugs. That's why they knowingly sent MI into that trap.
>precise calculations
Stop thinking like a human. These asteroids are not expensive space ships. They can just fling them in the vague direction and if 1 out of a 1000 make it, it's a success
The "vague direction" has to be pretty fucking precise for it to hit from across the fucking galaxy.
No it doesn't. Just launch the fucking asteroid and hope it hits something eventually. They have unlimited asteroids due to the brutal gravity of the dual star system.
It absolutely does, do you think if maps and computers didn't exist we'd just randomly send missiles across the ocean in the hopes it might possibly hit the middle east? You still have to have some kind of vague idea of where the enemy might be, it's an unimaginably large galaxy.
>They can just fling them in the vague direction and if 1 out of a 1000 make it, it's a success
Lol
lmao
do you have any fucking idea how large space is?
You could throw a trillion of them and none of them would fucking hit anything without targeting. Literally millions of years could go by and they wouldn't have interacted with anything.
Extra solar objects pass thru our solar system all the time. One could imagine that the heat of the sun "wakes" dormant bugs who can then direct the asteroid towards the earth. Clearly the bugs can launch an asteroid out into interstellar space, so it's reasonable they could slow it down to increase chance of an encounter.
You realize this is the exact conversation they had in the movie on the talk show? Just in more detail.
>It stands the reason the bugs have access to FTL in some form.
The bugs don't even have technology. Space Bush or whoever is clearly exaggerating their capabilities
They don't need technology to have access to it in "some form". The movie gave humans warp technology so it's clear it's not taking the realities of space travel seriously.
The bugs can spread to other planets and have ground-to-space anti-space batteries
I have no idea what this is, but you have my conspiracybruv letter of reccomendation coming in the mail, good sir.
People dont seem to realize that bugs colonized planets far of their home world. Its entirely possible that they colonized a planet near earth and sent the asteroid towards our planet with the plasma shooting bug
Fascists just like commies don't care about objective reality, for them it's all about what their emotions tell them to do
buenos aires was an inside job
Why didn't the asteroid defense system they show on the internet catch it? And more importantly, why did military radar lose the 9/11 flights for hours?
The movie is a hack job. In the book, the bugs are attacking human colonies which is why the Federation declares war on them and the war with the bugs is just one of the many wars the Federation is waging across the galaxy. The bugs are also seen as easy as fuck to subjugate and the skinnier put up more of a fight despite being basically alien Somalians
It's not, bugs have base on Mars. Do you even watch the movies nagger?
The bugs in the movie blasted the Klendathu invasion fleet out of orbit using warp plasma asteroids with the same pin-point accuracy. Or are you also implying the Federation destroyed half their own space force for another false flag? Humanity just completely underestimated the Bugs. They also readily admit in the propaganda that it was technically the humans that encroached on Bug territory which provoked the attack, albeit it was unauthorized settlers and the Bugs failed to note the distinction. There was nothing that suggests Buenos Aires was anything other than a cheap shot that Humanity probably should have been expecting but didn't because of human arrogance.
Excellent points! The bugs have many capabilities that are unexpected.
With the absence of any other "conspiracy" elements or plot in the script, it seems out of place to think that the asteroid attack is a false flag. Especially when you consider that the movie isn't focusing on space realism.
Is any media besides the first movie any good?
>bugs can shred body armor and metal with ease
🙂
>bugs can drain the brain and memories of humans with their proboscis
🙂
>bugs can shoot superheated plasma to space from their asses
🙂
>bugs can manipulate asteroids and wormholes to bombard planets
:O <( uuuh sweatie? that's too impossible for the bugs to do, it is clearly a false flag, ok? educate yourself)
All of that shit is from the movie
guess what we're discussing itt
Tbf the wormhole thing isn't in the movie, but it fits with the tone of the movie. One could imagine a cut scene that explains it.
You could also argue that the Federation propaganda is overly simplified for the public and security ( so it just shows the humans and bugs at opposite ends of the galaxy)
shes such a stud
damn I might take her over carmen
you'd regret either choice
at least with Diz you could tan her, cut her hair short, and roleplay that shes vaqauez from Aliens every so often. I think she'd be down to fuck other women with you too.
carmen probably kisses better though
This movie really does flush out the draft-dodgers & quislings.
This was considered fit and prime fuck meat in the 90s
Still is.
>mfw bugfags
>Girls are simply wonderful. Just to stand on a corner and watch them going past is delightful. They don't walk. At least not what we do when we walk.
Her knockers were something else.
>tfw Verhoeven told Casper to cop a feel, filmed it, then never used it in the movie
Absolute madlad
Rico's parents weren't citizens. How did they get a spawning license? Bribes?
All this arguing, and forgetting about the 300,000 Mobile Infantry troopers we lost on Klendathu...
>Buenos Aires
>white
Wake up sheeple, they were never really on earth. They were all clones with implanted false memories whose only task in life was to kill bugs.
>hurr durr space is too big for the bugs to intentionally hit earth
You know what gravity is, right? It's that thing that means you can't jump off into space, there's pressure drawing you and everything else on earth towards the center of the planets mass. So it is with asteroids. Our planet has been hit with a cataclysmic asteroid at least once in the last 5 billion years and that was actual chance. If an intelligent force could shoot asteroids into our solar system they would be all but guaranteed to hit a planet each time.
But it's even easier then that. They explicitly state a year before Johnny joins the army that the bugs are colonizing other planets by launching their spore into space. They obviously know about hitting planets but more importantly, they occupy more planets than just their home system on the other side of the galaxy. They are launching asteroids from planets closer to earth. After the first sky marshal is replaced the humans start clearing outlying planets of bugs and even find brain bugs on planets other than the bug home world.
Bugs did Buenos Aires and you're a traitor if you don't agree.
Your mum launches her spore to space
This is the most retarded shit I've ever read.
All the woeful retards ITT
Using a false flag to enter a bloody war with with enemy that in the first place wanted to be left alone and wad encroached upon by ambitious humans is probably the most believable thing in the story
It even makes it a big deal that the sky captain or whatever they call the position steps down afterwords, which often happens after false flag attacks
And even if a bunch of bugs that have NO mechanical devices, NO radar capabilities, not even a friggin wheel, somehow pull of an extraordinarily complex attack, from literally millions of light-years away, with pinpoint precision, and in an extremely tight time-line
They don't invade earth outright, they don't send 50 asteroids, they don't hit DC or a capital
And all this so the largest military device in the history of man has an excuse to charge across the galaxy and smash some fucking bugs!
btw I'm from Buenos Aires and i say kill em all!
>All just to dunk on the Nazis from my childhood.
BRAVO PAUL.