Nobody said or implied said.
However, now that you bring it up >Napoleon >white
Corsican, probably an arabian rape baby. Also, by definition was one of the most evil men alive. Imagine trying to spread French culture everywhere... Disgusting
Fuck you homosexual. The world really was dark pre modernity. I’ll give napoleon the benefit of being after the enlightenment, when civilised society actually became a concept in peoples minds, but it was still an era of rabid inequality, horribly unethical ideology and barbarism. Nobody disputes the dystopia that was the christcuck middle ages, or the schizophrenic brutality of rome. The scientific method was not even a thing until recently in napoleons time, so yes, the world really was miserable, primitive and grim. Your nostalgic larping doesn’t change that
My guess is that they usually film a fuckton mpre than needed and then they put the film together in the editor room.
Also, modern actors have no fucking idea of what is going on with all the CGI crap around them
>Also, modern actors have no fucking idea of what is going on with all the CGI crap around them
It's not uncommon. Edie Falco said she never watched the Sopranos and didn't know what was happening as it was being made despite being in every single episode. Every time she filmed a scene she just did it without plot context as it was not filmed sequentially, and she didn't bother to catch up. I think she said she only watched it and realized what the show or her scenes were about years after it aired.
There's a 90% chance Scott had the entire movie shot by his AD while he napped in a chair off set. That's how all of those big name boomer directors do it these days. They're alive in name only.
Has any director been able to consistently maintain their quality since their prime?
They all seem to grow decadent from early success then ride their name into schlockdom.
obviously you have never tried making a movie. When filming to the actors it just seem like a bunch of random scenes they have to act out. Nothing really make sense till the editing. An actor might have been recorded acting a 10 minutes scene but then during editing those long scenes might get cut out to just like 2-3 minutes and connected in many different ways from many different angles. You truly have no idea how a movie will turn out till the editing is finished, which is literally the longest and most tedious process. And then have to watch that shit over and over again and again to re-arrange things or maybe even call back the actors to act out an scene differently or to add more to it. Add the Cgi, work out the coloring and stuff. And in many cases the actors end up actually watching the movie for the first time during the premier. They have no idea if it's good or shit till they are watching it along with everyone else for the first time during a premier.
Ok i understand actors have no idea how the movie will end up post-editing but I'm sure by just reading the script you could see how much of a train wreck the movie is going to be.
I think technically the filming was competent, those big directors know that shit.
He couldn't know the overall plot and details that have been put together in editing room.
When you agree to do a movie you really have no way of telling if it will be good or not. The script you get when you sign your contract is not the same as the shooting script, which can change daily. And entire scenes can be added or removed in post without your knowledge, completely changing the story or the tone of the film. Even when you're on set, filming a battle scene, you don't see the full scope of what the scene will look like. Joaquin probably just shot some closeups, some horse riding, and everything else was done with stunt doubles and second unit and third unit directors, or digital effects artists.
Yeah, absolutely no way of knowing. Other than being on the set every day, talking to the director every day, rehearsing lines every day and so on... but otherwise no way of knowing.
you've seen the theatrical and director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven, right? Most of Eva Green's scenes were cut in one version, making her just a generic love interest who fall for Orlando Bloom for no reason.
I agree with this. This past weekend, my girlfriend and I re-edited the 2021 movie Reminiscence. The movie is 2 hours long, and in trying to crack the movie we did a deep dive on everything surrounding the movie. Reading the script online, it was amazing how many of the awful lines we heard weren't in the scripts. Stranger still are the things are the scences which didn't make the final cut, including a scene where Rebecca Ferguson and Hugh Jackman "fuck". The more we watched it the worse it got, until we found out we could leave the central audio channel on for dialogue and sound effects, and turn the other channels off. Cutting out the score flipped the movie, and somehow through a few choice edits taking out 15 minutes, the picture was actually good. It was amazing to us how the line between a good movie and a bad movie could be so fine.
I agree with this. This past ten minutes, my AI chatbot and I re-edited your post. >Edit the following to remove any references that seem to be self-aggrandising and sound like I'm writing an annoying personal blog:
>I agree with this. My girlfriend and I decided to try to re-edit the 2021 movie Reminiscence. We looking into various materials surrounding the film, including reading the script online. It was interesting to discover that many of the lines we disliked were not present in the original script. Additionally, we noticed scenes that didn't make it into the final cut, such as an explicit one involving Rebecca Ferguson and Hugh Jackman. We discovered we could isolate the dialogue and sound effects while muting the score. By making a few strategic edits and removing approximately 15 minutes of footage, we believe we created a cut of the film that improved it significantly. This experience highlighted the thin line that separates a good movie from a bad one. Though we understand that the perception of quality is subjective and your mileage may vary.
I'm just agreeing with you. Most shit written by obvious fuckheads could do with a good edit to trim out all the crap. My edit of your post was far superior to the original, just like you say your edit of that film was. What's the problem?
ngl, I'm actually looking forward to it. Sounds like it's definitely going to be something different for better or worse, and to the extreme either way.
Since he probs already saw it before the premiere (phoenix has a Producer credit), why waste time seeing it again? Everybody knows the talent has to attend the beginning for publicity--there's no red carpet after the credits roll. Ya'll are obsessed with this thing. Joker 2 hype/cope/seetbe is going to much worse.
No one gives a shit about this movie. Hollywood has been entirely corrupted. Majority of corporations in America have been corrupt. People are waking up. They no longer want to support executive staff making 7 figures doing fuck all. They are tired of politicians using their power to acquire wealth instead of furthering humanity. It's over and they just don't know it yet. The old must die first completely oblivious to the levels of mind control the government aligned.
They’ll suck on the ESG test until investors wise up and then move on to the next fad. Hopefully, somewhere in between a period of good movies can rise up.
You just don't get it. the US controls cinema distribution. No-one else can get shit done. It's over until that completely collapses. ESG is just part of it.
>ESG
I hate this meme and I wish it would die. Movies are shit because marketing says the people who go and see movies are mothers with children, black people, and the gays. And when you poll/question those groups they say they want more diversity, more female empowerment, and less cheesecake. But it's because they're saying what they think anyone wants to hear. It's just the same shit that rug-pulled analysts on political surveys because people stopped responding with their dumbass political views on them, and just voted for retards anyway.
>Movies are shit because marketing says the people who go and see movies are mothers with children, black people, and the gays.
western movies are shit. japs and koreans still make kino
DUDE BLUE AND DARK PISS FILTER
DUDE MARVELIZATION OF CINEMA
Why not just watch pic related instead? It was made decades ago and is already 100 times better
Marvelization always comes of as sourgrapes among pretentious movie reviewers. Its the practice of color theory in mainstream filmmaking that is dying not Marvel being part of the dominant culture.
Ive heard plenty of stories of directors and actors walking out of premieres. Its not because the movie is bad; its because they dont like watching their work on screen or they need a break or chance to talk. George Lucas and a couple of actors left the Revenge of the Sith premiere to go to theatre filled with fans.
Do you guys think it's actually THAT bad? Historical epics tend to be spotty but worth it for grand battle scenes, surely that's still good enough. For some reason directors insist on perverting the story otherwise.
I don’t care for battle scenes in modern movies where it’s just a bunch of extras individually flailing around in nonsensical duels with 0 respect for military history
Now waterloo 1970, THAT was a battle scene
What's the point in watching modern "epic battles" that have been color graded to the point of appearing almost like the black and white silent film from 1927?
>first movie not filled with browns that actually glorifies white history in years >/poltv/ hates it before even seeing it
You are all brown contrarians
>the only reason why Napoleon did everything he did was because he was an autistic incel >any objections to the way the historical events are portrayed in the movie are met by Ridley himself with: WERE YOU THERE!?!? GET A LIFE! IT'S NOT A DOC! >described by multiple reviewers as a comedy, with Napoleon being a butt of a joke >glorifies white history
Not buying a ticket, Ridley
Right >We’ve been writing about this guy for more than 200 years, but Scott reduces him to just another loser who went to war over what he lacked in life and died with nothing else for company. His greatest victory finds him sitting on a throne covered in bird shit and then watching his enemies set fire to his prize. “Napoleon” is a portrait of the most pathetic of all great men, or perhaps the greatest of all pathetic ones, and it excels — when it excels — because it’s the rare historical epic that isn’t afraid to be embarrassed for its subject.
Here's the probable reality:
>Nothing is distractingly historically inaccurate but there are inaccuracies like with any historical movie >They give Josephine a little too much screen time to appeal to the female audience, like they typically do in historical epics >they sensationalize Napoleon himself because the intent of the movie is to entertain >it's still a good and entertaining movie to watch and certainly not worse than a Troy or Alexander
Zero faith in this cope. Especially after Last Duel and the fact that Scarpa is the sole writer.
>Nothing is distractingly historically inaccurate but there are inaccuracies like with any historical movie >They give Josephine a little too much screen time to appeal to the female audience, like they typically do in historical epics >they sensationalize Napoleon himself because the intent of the movie is to entertain >it's still a good and entertaining movie to watch and certainly not worse than a Troy or Alexander
Seems like making a movie bashing someone might not provide great turnout, maybe he should have made a Bonapartist film instead of anglo trash. I would have taken my family of 5 opening night.
>You see the epic showdown with the Duke of Wellington and he pulls out a phaser and sets it to stun, the the death star blows up
That's not historically accurate >PFFT were you there?????
T. Ryan"the hack" Johnson.
there was a thread a while ago, possibly years, talking about how hollywood was gonna make a napoleon film and use it as a vehicle for some new propaganda angle/psyop. did any anons save the screencap?
I guess he didn't like the color grading either.
much better
nooo goyim!!!! everything tied to white history is bleak, dark and bad!!! BAAAAAADDD!!!! YOU SHOULD FEEL ASHAMED!!!!
Nobody said or implied said.
However, now that you bring it up
>Napoleon
>white
Corsican, probably an arabian rape baby. Also, by definition was one of the most evil men alive. Imagine trying to spread French culture everywhere... Disgusting
Fuck you homosexual. The world really was dark pre modernity. I’ll give napoleon the benefit of being after the enlightenment, when civilised society actually became a concept in peoples minds, but it was still an era of rabid inequality, horribly unethical ideology and barbarism. Nobody disputes the dystopia that was the christcuck middle ages, or the schizophrenic brutality of rome. The scientific method was not even a thing until recently in napoleons time, so yes, the world really was miserable, primitive and grim. Your nostalgic larping doesn’t change that
Nice revisionism homosexual but you can try to guilt trip Europeans all you want but you desert rats will never change and will always get the boot.
He didn't get it.
He left because he's the only one who went
And that's exactly what noone else did
I’d just sit and watch the movie
Holy digits!
How'd he star in the movie and complete filming without noticing what a retard Ridley Scott was being?
My guess is that they usually film a fuckton mpre than needed and then they put the film together in the editor room.
Also, modern actors have no fucking idea of what is going on with all the CGI crap around them
>Also, modern actors have no fucking idea of what is going on with all the CGI crap around them
It's not uncommon. Edie Falco said she never watched the Sopranos and didn't know what was happening as it was being made despite being in every single episode. Every time she filmed a scene she just did it without plot context as it was not filmed sequentially, and she didn't bother to catch up. I think she said she only watched it and realized what the show or her scenes were about years after it aired.
There's a 90% chance Scott had the entire movie shot by his AD while he napped in a chair off set. That's how all of those big name boomer directors do it these days. They're alive in name only.
Has any director been able to consistently maintain their quality since their prime?
They all seem to grow decadent from early success then ride their name into schlockdom.
James Cameron.
George Miller
Gonna hold my breath till Furiosa comes out.
Stanley Kubrick never made a bad movie though he only put out 2 the last 20 years of his life
obviously you have never tried making a movie. When filming to the actors it just seem like a bunch of random scenes they have to act out. Nothing really make sense till the editing. An actor might have been recorded acting a 10 minutes scene but then during editing those long scenes might get cut out to just like 2-3 minutes and connected in many different ways from many different angles. You truly have no idea how a movie will turn out till the editing is finished, which is literally the longest and most tedious process. And then have to watch that shit over and over again and again to re-arrange things or maybe even call back the actors to act out an scene differently or to add more to it. Add the Cgi, work out the coloring and stuff. And in many cases the actors end up actually watching the movie for the first time during the premier. They have no idea if it's good or shit till they are watching it along with everyone else for the first time during a premier.
Don't be a moron. They all have the script and read through it and are generally familiar with the tone as well since they're on the set.
You're talking like they're blind and have long-term memory loss so they're completely oblivious about the entire project they're working on.
u r dum
Ok i understand actors have no idea how the movie will end up post-editing but I'm sure by just reading the script you could see how much of a train wreck the movie is going to be.
I think technically the filming was competent, those big directors know that shit.
He couldn't know the overall plot and details that have been put together in editing room.
When you agree to do a movie you really have no way of telling if it will be good or not. The script you get when you sign your contract is not the same as the shooting script, which can change daily. And entire scenes can be added or removed in post without your knowledge, completely changing the story or the tone of the film. Even when you're on set, filming a battle scene, you don't see the full scope of what the scene will look like. Joaquin probably just shot some closeups, some horse riding, and everything else was done with stunt doubles and second unit and third unit directors, or digital effects artists.
Yeah, absolutely no way of knowing. Other than being on the set every day, talking to the director every day, rehearsing lines every day and so on... but otherwise no way of knowing.
>hurr duuur
oh no, you're drooling again. Go ask your handler to wipe your chin.
you've seen the theatrical and director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven, right? Most of Eva Green's scenes were cut in one version, making her just a generic love interest who fall for Orlando Bloom for no reason.
>
bitch had it coming
He actually praised the movie after watching it.
I agree with this. This past weekend, my girlfriend and I re-edited the 2021 movie Reminiscence. The movie is 2 hours long, and in trying to crack the movie we did a deep dive on everything surrounding the movie. Reading the script online, it was amazing how many of the awful lines we heard weren't in the scripts. Stranger still are the things are the scences which didn't make the final cut, including a scene where Rebecca Ferguson and Hugh Jackman "fuck". The more we watched it the worse it got, until we found out we could leave the central audio channel on for dialogue and sound effects, and turn the other channels off. Cutting out the score flipped the movie, and somehow through a few choice edits taking out 15 minutes, the picture was actually good. It was amazing to us how the line between a good movie and a bad movie could be so fine.
I agree with this. This past ten minutes, my AI chatbot and I re-edited your post.
>Edit the following to remove any references that seem to be self-aggrandising and sound like I'm writing an annoying personal blog:
>I agree with this. My girlfriend and I decided to try to re-edit the 2021 movie Reminiscence. We looking into various materials surrounding the film, including reading the script online. It was interesting to discover that many of the lines we disliked were not present in the original script. Additionally, we noticed scenes that didn't make it into the final cut, such as an explicit one involving Rebecca Ferguson and Hugh Jackman. We discovered we could isolate the dialogue and sound effects while muting the score. By making a few strategic edits and removing approximately 15 minutes of footage, we believe we created a cut of the film that improved it significantly. This experience highlighted the thin line that separates a good movie from a bad one. Though we understand that the perception of quality is subjective and your mileage may vary.
That wasn't very nice of you. What was it about about my post that got on your nerves?
I'm just agreeing with you. Most shit written by obvious fuckheads could do with a good edit to trim out all the crap. My edit of your post was far superior to the original, just like you say your edit of that film was. What's the problem?
there is 4 hours cut so all good parts were cut in favor of puss worshipping
>shit movie is shit
Who could have guessed
first mistake was not casting Willow as Napoleon and making it a stoner comedy
And ? Actors are notoriously out-of-touch and less intelligent.
It's a bit amusing that someone that's doing Joker 2 thinks he has even a modicum of integrity anymore.
What's wrong with joker 2, I haven't been keeping up?
it's a musical with lady gaga
ngl, I'm actually looking forward to it. Sounds like it's definitely going to be something different for better or worse, and to the extreme either way.
They sing...and dance!
Instead of killing each other!
Maybe the singing and dancing is a metaphor for killing.
Since he probs already saw it before the premiere (phoenix has a Producer credit), why waste time seeing it again? Everybody knows the talent has to attend the beginning for publicity--there's no red carpet after the credits roll. Ya'll are obsessed with this thing. Joker 2 hype/cope/seetbe is going to much worse.
Probably in his contract to go to the premiere. Fulfilled his agreement then dipped
No one gives a shit about this movie. Hollywood has been entirely corrupted. Majority of corporations in America have been corrupt. People are waking up. They no longer want to support executive staff making 7 figures doing fuck all. They are tired of politicians using their power to acquire wealth instead of furthering humanity. It's over and they just don't know it yet. The old must die first completely oblivious to the levels of mind control the government aligned.
pol AI alert
>pol AI al-ACK
WTF IS THIS REAL?!
That's disturbing
That's hot
lmao Cinemaphile really defends scott even after THIS
contrarian retards destroyed this board
Me with my afro-american worker bees
Is this the new scam from Elon's fake android ?
It's not
Desperate meatbag cope
Yes.
They’ll suck on the ESG test until investors wise up and then move on to the next fad. Hopefully, somewhere in between a period of good movies can rise up.
You just don't get it. the US controls cinema distribution. No-one else can get shit done. It's over until that completely collapses. ESG is just part of it.
Streaming has opened up distribution in a big way. Expect film production to be more global and decentralized inevitably.
>ESG
I hate this meme and I wish it would die. Movies are shit because marketing says the people who go and see movies are mothers with children, black people, and the gays. And when you poll/question those groups they say they want more diversity, more female empowerment, and less cheesecake. But it's because they're saying what they think anyone wants to hear. It's just the same shit that rug-pulled analysts on political surveys because people stopped responding with their dumbass political views on them, and just voted for retards anyway.
ESG and DEI are real you dishonest retard.
ESG isn't a meme.
They are changing their name because people caught on, that's like me calling the sky a meme.
>Movies are shit because marketing says the people who go and see movies are mothers with children, black people, and the gays.
western movies are shit. japs and koreans still make kino
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure remains unsurpassed for Napoleon kino
qu'est-ce que c'est?
No, that's Time Bandits.
Ziggy piggy Ziggy piggy.
My ex named her dog Ziggy and I would always call him Ziggy piggy. I miss him so fucking much.
what a drama queen
If your actually read the article he walks out before the film starts and doesn't give any interviews
You can't fight perfection
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/joaquin-phoenix-walks-out-of-napoleon-premiere-early/ar-AA1k9lAG
According to this he left before the film began.
So what was he supposed to do? Stay inside the cinema for the rest of his life? Of course he walked out
DUDE BLUE AND DARK PISS FILTER
DUDE MARVELIZATION OF CINEMA
Why not just watch pic related instead? It was made decades ago and is already 100 times better
People born after 1996 are unable to understand color. This is a proven fact.
What if I was born IN 1996
it’s kind of a grey area
Marvelization always comes of as sourgrapes among pretentious movie reviewers. Its the practice of color theory in mainstream filmmaking that is dying not Marvel being part of the dominant culture.
This, just watched it this past month it's kino.
Not enough Talleyrand fuckery in the last episode though
>Julian Sands
I will now watch your direct to tv slop
>tfw filtered by own film
I vvill now vvatch your kino
Ive heard plenty of stories of directors and actors walking out of premieres. Its not because the movie is bad; its because they dont like watching their work on screen or they need a break or chance to talk. George Lucas and a couple of actors left the Revenge of the Sith premiere to go to theatre filled with fans.
A lot of actors hate seeing themselves on screen
The scene where Josephine pegs him while singing La Marseillaise while her gay black lovers watch on approvingly was simply too much
>actor does perfectly normal thing
OH N-
it's joaver
midge
Do you guys think it's actually THAT bad? Historical epics tend to be spotty but worth it for grand battle scenes, surely that's still good enough. For some reason directors insist on perverting the story otherwise.
I don’t care for battle scenes in modern movies where it’s just a bunch of extras individually flailing around in nonsensical duels with 0 respect for military history
Now waterloo 1970, THAT was a battle scene
What's the point in watching modern "epic battles" that have been color graded to the point of appearing almost like the black and white silent film from 1927?
I'm waiting 1-2 years for autists to color correct it and then I'm watching it for free on google docs when it's finished.
>first movie not filled with browns that actually glorifies white history in years
>/poltv/ hates it before even seeing it
You are all brown contrarians
>the only reason why Napoleon did everything he did was because he was an autistic incel
>any objections to the way the historical events are portrayed in the movie are met by Ridley himself with: WERE YOU THERE!?!? GET A LIFE! IT'S NOT A DOC!
>described by multiple reviewers as a comedy, with Napoleon being a butt of a joke
>glorifies white history
Not buying a ticket, Ridley
None of that happened btw
Right
>We’ve been writing about this guy for more than 200 years, but Scott reduces him to just another loser who went to war over what he lacked in life and died with nothing else for company. His greatest victory finds him sitting on a throne covered in bird shit and then watching his enemies set fire to his prize. “Napoleon” is a portrait of the most pathetic of all great men, or perhaps the greatest of all pathetic ones, and it excels — when it excels — because it’s the rare historical epic that isn’t afraid to be embarrassed for its subject.
Zero faith in this cope. Especially after Last Duel and the fact that Scarpa is the sole writer.
>Ehrlich is a German/Yiddish surname, meaning "honest" or "honorable".
Here's the probable reality:
>Nothing is distractingly historically inaccurate but there are inaccuracies like with any historical movie
>They give Josephine a little too much screen time to appeal to the female audience, like they typically do in historical epics
>they sensationalize Napoleon himself because the intent of the movie is to entertain
>it's still a good and entertaining movie to watch and certainly not worse than a Troy or Alexander
imagine being in the theater when this happened, imagine seeing him joaquin out
>"as soon as the movie ended i walked out." - WALKEEN FEENIX on Napoleon Movie Premerie
>that hairline
JUST
>thinking this man gives a FLYING FUCK
>just dances the night away
you could learn something from this man
Future Islands?
you know it brother
SEASONS CHAAAANGE
>I'll take all of that you got
>name is Walking
>Walks out
Who writes this stuff?
meanwhile he probably had diarrhea and had to take a massive crap
>nobody gonna PICK MEEEEE UPPPPPP
>i've fallen down
>none of my friends around
t. Ridley Scott
When is we gettin a torrent
That was the most napoleonic thing he did
Seems like making a movie bashing someone might not provide great turnout, maybe he should have made a Bonapartist film instead of anglo trash. I would have taken my family of 5 opening night.
>You see the epic showdown with the Duke of Wellington and he pulls out a phaser and sets it to stun, the the death star blows up
That's not historically accurate
>PFFT were you there?????
T. Ryan"the hack" Johnson.
there was a thread a while ago, possibly years, talking about how hollywood was gonna make a napoleon film and use it as a vehicle for some new propaganda angle/psyop. did any anons save the screencap?
i member actually
>napoleon movie
>by a senile bong
you get what you fucking deserve
Wasn't he dead?
>Be walk-in
>walk out
I thought this was normal. Actors walk the carpet, pose for pics, stop for sound bytes walk in the theater then walk out the back exit.