Remember people arguing whether it's art or not? Now capeshit is not only not art (assuming it ever was, although maybe Burton Batman movie had some artistic direction) but not cinema either because they start to chung out crap directly to streaming. Capeshit has reduced to mere 'content' and nothing else.
>Content is entirely novel and homogenous at once, cursed to turn stale as soon as it hits shelves, yet blessed with the half-life of irradiated plutonium. Content creates nothing but more content for the sake of more content, feeding its past to its present to birth its future.
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>Content creates nothing but more content for the sake of more content, feeding its past to its present to birth its future.
This is true but butthurt capeshit manbabies will REEEE over this pretending that movie like Endgame have any value. It wasn't even actual end. It was just content. To open the gateway for more worthless content.
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>reduced from cinema to content
capeshitters will never recover
Maybe they could buy a few more Funko Pops to support their favourite company in these trying times.
>doo wop music starts playing
Martin Scorcese was right all along.
>boring shit....LE GOOD
Yes.
It's not boring, you just have ADHD
No capeshit I’m fact isn’t good
But marvel capeshit is boring as all frick though????
What Burton did with Returns, and even 89, was art. Returns will always be the best comic book film ever created. Kino
This. A true artist. Once WB wanted to make Batman 'content', he left.
>movies
>art
lmao
I bet that moron will cream himself when Joker 2 Bogaloo A Deux comes out
It's not even content, it's propaganda. Content has the promise of being made to please the fans, to keep them CONTENT and satisfied. If the MCU was just content, then it wouldn't be bleeding audience numbers and engagement.
>Content has the promise of being made to please the fans, to keep them CONTENT and satisfied.
You have a weird perspective of content. Content doesn't do anything. It simply fills space. That's how the article is using it. You're attaching too much value to the concept.
You’re confusing the Latin root derivative meaning “satisfied” with the English root derivative of “contain”, as in “the contents of his suitcase”.
It's fricked up because they're spelled the same but the difference is in the accent.
Yep
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/dypabj/the-mcu-is-not-art
here is the full article
>VICE articles are fine if they rage-bait the other side!
- Cinemaphile, 06/10/22
That was obvious. How can a "cinematic" universe include TV shows and cartoons? It's not cinematic anymore but a multimedia franchise. Luckily the can just call it Marvel Content Universe and keep the letters
When evaluating art you should ask yourself "What does it mean"
"What is the creator trying to communicate here"
Because ultimately art is a communicative medium, if it's not trying to convey something, even just to evoke a vague emotion or sense, then it's design, not art
So what does the MCU exist to communicate? Nothing, generally.
The Captain America movies have something to say about the changing face of geopolitics and the American soul, with Cap transitioning from the good soldier, following orders to fight on the front lines against the unambiguous evil of Red Face Man, to fighting clandestine battles for the deep state whose purpose he doesn't really understand and then in the end turning to fight directly against his own government. They're not high art, but if someone wanted to call them art, I wouldn't stop them.
But beyond that and maybe a couple of other examples the MCU doesn't really have anything to say beyond "Good guys are good, and bad guys, well.... they're pretty bad"
Eat shit,this anon is right
You're all sad fricking prig who forgot entertainment was about escapism first and foremost
adults should not be watching a kids movie, period. if all entertainment was dumbed down to kiddie shit like spandex wearing supermen and space wizards, then people would start demanding pacifiers too
Come and take their remotes from them then,insecure homosexual. You'll never stop people watching things you dont approve, it's you whoneed to grow up
woah, easy on the homophobia there, pal. don't want your disney overlords to find out their loyal shill is being problematic in pride month lmao
Your next movie is calling me a npc because you think life is a video game and conveniently you are the hero
homosexual
Keep coping,people will continue to watch dumb blockbusters long after you are gone
*next move
hey, i'm not the one calling you an npc, you are
>I know you are but what am I
Nice argument gay.
>this anon, not me hehe 🙂 it's definitely not my post I'm linking to haha
Regardless - if you don't want your movies to be art, then just say "OK, so Marvel flicks aren't art" and go on with your basic rudimentary existence. Just accept your low-tier childbrain and move on.
People like me will be always more joyful than soulless carcass like you and that why you hate us. People like you, we give them our brightest smile because it's free and it sure is pissing you off when nothing you say can make it falter
>ultimately art is a communicative medium
No, it isn't. That's homosexual bullshit. Art is a display, a spectacle. A painting doesn't "communicate" anything, it just is
>A painting doesn't "communicate" anything, it just is
Based moron. An average painting just exists. You see it and you forget about it. That's capeshit. A good painting makes you react to the aesthetics. A work of art makes you think, unironically.
As much as I hate the MCU it quite literally is art. It's just not good art.
its literally crap spammed only because moron eat it up.
they are doing the same to star wars now shitting out pointless tv serioes directly to disney channel +
I don't, and never have, give a shit about "art" in my movies. I want to be entertained, not jerk off to the delusion that pretty pictures can be filled with meaning.
This isnt even about art anynmore. It's nw that it's no longer cinema. It's just content. That's how low it dropped. Content, just like a commercial aired between 2 movies.
based and bread-and-circus-pilled
consumer
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Frick the prigs,you're not special and significant because you watch only Rotten Tomatoes approved movies
>you're not special and significant because you watch only Rotten Tomatoes approved movies
MCU is Rotten Tomatoes approved, though.
My bad. You are correct, I should have said "critérium collection approved"
I wouldn't call Predator art either, but it's vastly better than any manchild action figure movie.
art is entertaining moron. it just isn't entertaining to you because u dumb as frick.
This is true of 90% of entertainment. It isn't art.
When it is art, it's not entertaining.
There are rare things that can be art and entertaining. My point is more about how entertainment has, in general, always been towards the common denominator. Things are worse now because we have more content being produced than ever before with more bad content than ever before. Art can definitely be entertaining. I hate the false dichotomies people put out that cinema is either dumb blockbusters or indie art house and nothing inbetween. Some things can do more than one thing. But we have majorly lost this.
the worst part about it all is that cape shit has some great sci-fi wrapped up in the shit and we have to throw the babby out with the bathwater
naw homie all spandex has to go. if you want good scifi, read
God you sound like an absolute homosexual.
>Uh oh, some homosexual on the internet has an opinion, therefore the definitions are locked down authoritatively!
I don't even care about MCU but have a nice day.
It's over
literally looks like the McDonalds menu of movies
it's unequivocally over
It isn't art, it's entertainment.
Why is this concept so hard to grasp?
It's why gayots like Kevin Feige want their content to receive art recognition.
Because you homosexual want to add the buzzword "art" to your favorite works as if this shit mattered. It's all about the repulsive dick measuring context that is current fan culture. "My shit is art" "No,your shit suck,it's mindless "goyslop",arent you triggered by what i just aid"
My opinion is: if YOU like something,that's all that matter and frick the rest. Just dont talk about it and you'll be fine. We need to relearn to enjoy things by ourselves instead of sharing everything
Treasure what you like at your onw leisure in the comfort of your home and dont ever ever let anyone know you like it,that's the only sensible way to enjoy things nowadays
Yes thank you mr. online article writing man for telling us what should have been obvious 10 fricking years ago
Hulkbros....Mr Brasil is attacking us!
https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1535057765634560000
It's a pretentious film critic with a criterion collection of art films. If you really want to know the cinema this critic likes try looking up more independent films being made now that are hidden from sight an example is Upstream Color.
I don't give a frick if capeshit or Star Wars are "art", they're just not even good schlock either. Dawn of the Dead 2004 is one of my favorite examples because it's a brainless action romp and Zack Snyder is a complete doofus, but it's still an enjoyable movie with great atmosphere, engaging characters, and good performances that put a lot of more respectable films to shame. MCU "content" is having its Nanette "comedy doesn't have to be funny" moment where it's boring, preachy, annoying, stale, high off its own farts, and not particularly well made while being fast food viewing material that only ever got popular by being fun, fresh, and a higher standard than shit like Daredevil 2003. The MCU has regressed drastically from the first Iron Man, but we're supposed to marvel at the emperor's new clothes and pretend the MCU would've ever gotten off the ground in the first place on the merit of shitty greenscreen and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. MCU praise at this point comes from argumentum ad populum and sunk cost that runs so deep it's coming out the other side of Earth in China, where the MCU makes most of its money these days.
Not all movies need to be art. Some movies are fine as simple popcorn flicks that you consume purely for entertainment, such as MCU flicks.
Can we please start editing out these moron troll writers names so they don't get any publicity?
>WAAAAAHHH WHY ARE PEOPLE ENJOYING THINGS INSTEAD OF WATCHING MY homosexual DRAMAS?
Get fricked
This
I honestly couldt give less of a shit about the Marvel movies. I only watch some of them with my family so that we can share a good moment together at the theater, it's the priggish,better than you snobbish attitude that is unbearable to me
>feeding its past to its present to birth its future.
Actually a good way of expressing what capeshit does.
Holy shit i came full circle. I genuinely want the MCU to die so i wont have to read another of those smug self satisfied "muh real art/[popular popcorn schlock] is killing MUH REAL KINO" hit pieces again
It's not even a particularly original take. I recently saw a twitter troony (not a term of mockery, an actual troony) use that same capeshit phraseology and how it wasn't cinema.
It's like, wow, what an incredible observation genius.
It's even worse when you read the Twitter account of the author. Guy is going through all the cliché of the "controversial author who triggered the fans" like retweeting negatives answer and mocking them
>why yes I do love capeshit, how could you tell?
Unironically what's the next equivalent of the western genre Cinemaphile?
Read the fricking article. It's not even about art. The author says that these movies are not even cinema anymore. It's just endless shitflow of content created for the sake of creating content. Nothing even matters there. No stakes, no tension. Endgame is completely irrelevant despite being 2nd highest grossing film ever.
>And yet…watching Doctor Strange I couldn’t help but feel like I wasn’t watching a Sam Raimi movie; that I sensed something… other – a foreign entity or unwelcome presence that had me doubting not just whether this was a Sam Raimi movie, but whether it was a movie at all.
>I think it’s important to accept that the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is not cinema, or even art. It’s content.
>Content is entirely novel and homogenous at once, cursed to turn stale as soon as it hits shelves, yet blessed with the half-life of irradiated plutonium. Content creates nothing but more content for the sake of more content, feeding its past to its present to birth its future.
>Nowhere does content take shape as purely as it does within the MCU, the most successful and expansive content franchise there has ever been. With 28 films (and at least 11 more in development) and at least 18 TV series under its belt, the MCU has come to reign supreme as peak content in the age of content.
Author literally stopped pretending this trash is art, nor even cinema nor entertainment nor fun. Now points out that this is meaningless content. Nothing more than endlessly milked content.
Entertainment is something like Top Gun Maverick. An entertaining and fun blockbuster. Doesn't try to be art and is just a long awaitied sequel after 30 years. Another example is something like I don't know, Fast and Furious maybe? Dumb fun shit. But MCU lost these quallifies long time ago. Now it's not even entertainment. It's content poured diectly into audience's empty brains. There's no fun in this, there's only endless chain of crap forcing you to watch more crap.
this anon understands it. the other problem that hollywood faces is that many studios want to copy the extended universe of marvel. this could lead to a drop in quality of the movies
>this anon understands it. the other problem that hollywood faces is that many studios want to copy the extended universe of marvel. this could lead to a drop in quality of the movies
Sure, studios have been trying to copy the MCU for a while but for me, part of the issue with this is cinemas as a physical place. Cinemas are obsolete:
>Rents are high.
>Utilities are high.
>Pandemic happened.
>Cinemas are desperate for business.
>MCU and big blockbuster films are the only things keeping cinemas going.
>Streaming and the Internet are better value for money.
>Big corporations can dictate contractual terms to the cinemas muscling out competition.
So these sort of films have become the only game in town when it comes to cinemas. I think that personal taste plays a part too as even though I like the big screen experience, I like to watch other genres or dramas at home. So the cinema has become a theme park ride, essentially, like Scorcese said.
So all companies are copying the Marvel formula. Other films are still being made but lower budgets and on streaming services. I think the cinema as a physical place is dead and even people that like the big screen experience don't see other films there. (It does help that most towns/cities now have smaller arthouse cinemas that show a range of movies.)
Foolish anon...
You can fire your arrows from the tower of Babel, but you can
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>content is entirely novel and homogenous at once, cursed to turn stale as soon as it hits shelves
The best part of every marvel movie is the tease for the next thing, and then when they finally make a movie based on that it sucks. They all live on the promise to at the next thing is going to be great, but it never is. Like people were excited to see Black Knight and Blade teased at the end of Eternals, but we all know that when their shows/movies come out they’re gonna be shit. And the cycle will just continue
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