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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God doesn't exist

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      imagine listening to this idiot

      rather than a god that is sending you messages every day of your life but you're too stubborn to listen and act on them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        God wants to talk to me ? Shit he didn't leave a voicemail

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a god that is sending you messages
        I don't listen to women

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >rather than a god that is sending you messages every day of your life but you're too stubborn to listen and act on them
        Do you have his number? He hasn’t ever called or texted me. You also might want to let god know, a bunch of people with cancer have been calling for him, I guess he doesn’t have their numbers either. Is god on snapchat?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Might as well tell him all about the little boys and little girls who're getting raped every day. Seems He forgot about that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What exactly is his preposition here that God should emit radiowaves or be some giant guy out in space stating back at us?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is that the guy who loves to kiss himself in the mirror?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not even christian and this is such a moronic quote

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god is outside of time that's why he's the He's the alpha and omega, the beginning and end. gaytheist

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This homie is so cringe, he's like the atheist equivalent to prosperity gospel types.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bergman was literally an atheist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Until the Passion, the best movie about Jesus was made by a israelite so I'm okay with this.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Until the Passion
        The Passion of Anna?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so was Max von sydow

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lynchian
    satire?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rick and Morty

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    more like movies no one can understand. people just pretend to like b*rgman

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. two digit IQ

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the actual answer is that this movie is impossible to understand unless you are scandinavian. its not for you otherwise.
      t. scandi

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon the characters literally turn to the camera and tell you what they are thinking directly in all of his movies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon probably doesn't understand what they're telling him

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you liked this then you're an atheist. The whole modern idea of the struggle with faith being intrinsic to religion (rather than a struggle between atheism and faith) is just ridiculous. The movie offers nothing to a sincerely faithful heart, while Bach's music does, because Bach is the product of the Christian religion and not of maudlin atheist existentialism.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is intrinsic if you actually pay attention to the world at all. A "sincerely faithful heart" is just brainwashed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, okay, so you're not religious at all and you think religion is stupid. Just admit to it anon, stop with the LARP of being religious. The whole point of Christianity is that it recognises the evil of the world in full and offers redemption from it, no matter what will happen to you externally, the Kingdom of God is within you. The more evil the world is the more your faith should grow.

        Lmao the question of evil was always central to the religious dogma. Religions are just attempts to answering this question, and thus doubt is inherent to religion. In fact most theologians, especially christian, will reinforce this idea.

        There's no 'problem of evil' except for secularists. Theologians sought explanations, yes, because they already assumed there was a divinely infallible explanation for it which limited human cognition failed to grasp. No Christian theologian, at least until modern times, was searching for an explanation of evil to quell their own doubt. And the entire idea of martyrdom exists because faith is already fully justified to the believer.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No Christian theologian, at least until modern times, was searching for an explanation of evil to quell their own doubt.
          There was literally dualistic heresies in the early days of christianity, like gnosticism, where the Demiurge is not the true God because they looked at the world for two minutes and saw how shit it was. Then you have the cathares almost 1000 years later who come up with the same shit. The late middle ages and the ravages it suffered was also a crisis for the religion and the church, and why the reform could take foot, and you're telling me christians never had doubt until modern days ?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There was literally dualistic heresies in the early days of christianity, like gnosticism,
            Yes, that's a different religion to Christianity. Are you asking me to justify why any religions other than Christianity exist? We are talking about what Christianity is to its believers, Gnosticism and similar mystery religions of Antiquity aren't relevant.

            Also I never said Christians have not doubted their religion. You need better reading comprehension. Of course every religion ever has had members who doubted. What I said is that doubt was never some sort of cultural fixture which belonged to the religion. It's the beginning of leaving the religion, it's secularism or an alternative religion entering, but it's quite simply not a Christian thing to do. And Protestantism isn't doubt of the religion, it's doubting aspects of the religion, but Luther just as much as any Catholic would agree with me when I say that doubt has no place in Christian culture.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >And Protestantism isn't doubt of the religion, it's doubting aspects of the religion
              Oh sorry, how is that fricking different ?

              > Gnosticism and similar mystery religions of Antiquity aren't relevant.
              Yeah let's ignore what influenced Christianity and the over currents of thoughts and beliefs throughout time so it can fit your limited view.

              >What I said is that doubt was never some sort of cultural fixture which belonged to the religion.
              It's not part of the dogma for the sheep, which you are evidently part of, but the christian elite and even the texts always considered the doubt, evidently because when you convert people and talk about miracles, they'll have some doubts, but even when you maintain the dogma and are confronted with new information, you'll rightfully ask yourself some questions. That's why there are so many conclaves and evolutions throughout the history of the catholic church, and schisms. The church from the antiquity is not the same as the one in the XVI century.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh sorry, how is that fricking different ?
                You don't know both Protestantism and Catholicism are Christian?

                >Yeah let's ignore what influenced Christianity and the over currents of thoughts and beliefs throughout time so it can fit your limited view.
                Once again this isn't about other doubt existing in the history of a religion, and it's not about other religions existing. You're so unbelievably dull.

                >It's not part of the dogma for the sheep, which you are evidently part of, but the christian elite
                Once again this has nothing to do with the religion itself. Whether it is harder for an intelligent person to learn to believe, or how exactly their faith in Christianity differs from the common pleb, isn't any sort of point of contention here. It is an irony that you believe you're more intelligent for your doubt when you can't even understand a very simple claim. When a person, of any type, converts to the religion, they are without doubt. That's what conversion means. In the exact proportion as they have doubts, they are detracting themselves from Christianity; the doubting is not seen as a sympathetic or necessary experience for Christians of any intelligence level. And if you were familiar with the actual beliefs of the countless theologians throughout Christian history then you would know this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't know both Protestantism and Catholicism are Christian?
                Jesus, that has nothing to do with the conversation. My point is doubting an aspect of a religion is doubting the religion itself, which you seem to make gymnastics around to not realize.

                >Once again this isn't about other doubt existing in the history of a religion
                And why the frick not ? Why do you make the distinction between the history of the religion and the religion itself ? A religion doesn't exist in itself. It's the product of a time and a culture.

                >Once again this has nothing to do with the religion itself.
                The christian elite is the one controlling the dogma and preaching to the masses so I'm pretty fricking sure it has to do with the religion itself.

                >When a person, of any type, converts to the religion, they are without doubt
                How can you even write that shit down ? As a non believer, I see plenty of reasons to convert myself to a religion without really believing in it, and retaining my doubts. Put a sword on my neck and I'll "believe". There are a thousand different ways to convert to a religion, there is not always a direct and perfect religious bond between the christian and Jesus, as hard for you it seems to grasp.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doubting an aspect of a religion is doubting the religion itself
                No it's not, there's an important distinction. The distinction was opened up to new extremely through the Reformation, but it was always there.

                >A religion doesn't exist in itself. It's the product of a time and a culture.
                What I'm describing is infinitely closer to the actual history than your own contemporaneous atheist projection.

                >I see plenty of reasons to convert myself to a religion without really believing in it
                Then you would convert only in the exterior only. A conversation in name only. But it's not what a conversion means FOR religious people. Every single statement I make you interpret so superficially, you're almost being disingenuous.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're almost being disingenuous
                Oh the irony. We should drop it, there's no point to this conversation. Keep believing in your nonsense, I don't give a frick

                I see where you're coming from because I held your opinion once. In my case, I thought science + common sense would be enough to stop at the slippery slopes. Eventually, a line will be crossed and you will realize there's no layout trying to preserved partially, very few people have the maturity to respect the functional part of it, and it's gonna be groups and companies directing what's right or wrong based on their interests, as it's already happening. Have in mind I'm not even a conservative, I just think taboos have a role in a functional society, and their crescent flexibility isn't that positive as some people may think.

                I would tend to agree, although a society might keep taboos through comprehension (e.g incest) and law enforcement.
                >it's gonna be groups and companies directing what's right or wrong based on their interests
                It's always been the case. The corruption of the church existed because they're just a part of society, organized and ruled by humans. No society, no matter strongly religious it is, is free from corruption. I think it's foolish to think just because people believe, they'll behave. Just a quick look into muslim shitholes should tell you that.

                the world we live in is secular and we can see everything degrading as religion falls, you can't deny it there's a reason more people than ever are on drugs

                The secularization probably has a play in this, the death of God, etc, but it's far from being the main reason. The globalization, the economy crisis, the ecological crisis, the political corruption is presently creating a void that doesn't look good, I agree, but those happened before, in religious societies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it doesn't help that israelites are pushing degeneracy, mass migration, and defrauding money 24/7. sadly a antisemitism bill just passed too

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The global economical elite, no matter how israeli, has a strong part in this yes. Getting richer and richer while not sharing much. Good news it's unsustainable and sooner or later it'll crash down. But that's also the bad news because no one can tell what comes next

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >incest
                It will be the first one to go. I've seen people openly talking about it on social media in their real profiles, positively, and the reaction to it doesn't come close to the shock it once was. Eventually it's gonna be the next "two consenting adults". And no, not in two more weeks.
                >I think it's foolish to think just because people believe, they'll behave
                They won't but they won't be proud about it, that's what I said. See for example how abortion is treated right now, it went from a necessary tragedy when it was needed to a joke

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao the question of evil was always central to the religious dogma. Religions are just attempts to answering this question, and thus doubt is inherent to religion. In fact most theologians, especially christian, will reinforce this idea.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        evil doesn't exist for a atheist cause he believes nothing matters it's just a simple opinion

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm an atheist and I think some people or actions are evil. What now ?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            objective morality doesn't exist to you so it's simply a opinion

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >atheist
            >making moral claims
            Comedy. You will never derive an ought from an is.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm an atheist and I think some people or actions are evil. What now ?

          It's not that simple, but not false also. Modern atheists just adopt christian morality without realizing it, because it's so embedded in culture that they think it's natural or logical. Just take a look at other countries and see how different morality is based on the predominant religion.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly, which means morality is relative to the society, and thus we can choose our own. It also disproves morality as coming from God, because even christian morality evolved throughout the ages. The fact we find Job's story pants on head moronic and horrifying is an example of that.

            objective morality doesn't exist to you so it's simply a opinion

            Too bad believing in a God doesn't make it exist any more.
            >God tells me to stone women
            Wow nice morality there

            >atheist
            >making moral claims
            Comedy. You will never derive an ought from an is.

            It always amuses me how some people think renouncing God makes you a savage that can behead you on the spot when religiousgays are far more unhinged in their judgements

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I love how much Job filters atheists. It's the ultimate moron test.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                On that we agree anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Exactly, which means morality is relative to the society, and thus we can choose our own.
              Yes, but who's gonna choose it? I'm not christian, but I can respect christian morality as a functional guideline for a society. Of course it won't be perfect, and even christians still do shit against their own rules, but it keeps things in line and offer resistance to the bad stuff.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm no radical advocate who's nihilistic to the point where we should all tear it down and build anew.

                >who's gonna choose it
                The morals we are discussing already changed, they have changed for millennia. How do they change ? Now that's a hard question

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It always amuses me how some people think renouncing God makes you a savage that can behead you on the spot when religiousgays are far more unhinged in their judgements
              Superficial argument, just because you and me wouldn't do it doesn't mean other people wouldn't. A collective agreement is basic to a functional society, you see this when religions crash.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A collective agreement is basic to a functional society, you see this when religions crash.
                Yes and this collective agreement doesn't need to be religious. This has been thought out since the XVIII century. In western societies, this agreement gets more and more secular as well as the state gets more secular. Christian morality has been a layout, which was partially working for a lot of reasons, but it has also already considerably changed, and will continue to change.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see where you're coming from because I held your opinion once. In my case, I thought science + common sense would be enough to stop at the slippery slopes. Eventually, a line will be crossed and you will realize there's no layout trying to preserved partially, very few people have the maturity to respect the functional part of it, and it's gonna be groups and companies directing what's right or wrong based on their interests, as it's already happening. Have in mind I'm not even a conservative, I just think taboos have a role in a functional society, and their crescent flexibility isn't that positive as some people may think.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the world we live in is secular and we can see everything degrading as religion falls, you can't deny it there's a reason more people than ever are on drugs

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the book of job is saying that shit happens and you shouldn't give up cause of it only morons don't get that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God kills Job's kids and wife, but tells him it will all be repaired if he keeps believing in Him. Job at the end gets back his house, his money ok. But God gives him a new wife and new kids. Now how does that "repair" it ? He still lost his previous wife and children, whom he loved (I would hope). It's arguing that a kid's life is worth another, which I find deeply disgusting. Sane and honest christians don't even try to defend that shit because they agree with me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                his family died from other people and the elements(rain,wind,etc) or am I remembering wrong

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                also I truly believe it's about not giving up no matter how bad it gets. you'll see atheist that hate God simply cause bad shit happens too them and around the world.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you'll see atheist that hate God simply cause bad shit happens too them and around the world.
                I would be one of them. When I look at the world and all the rampant, disgusting shit in it, I find the very idea of an all powerful, loving god revolting. Read Ivan's lament in the brothers Karamazov. How can the universe be just, how can the end be justified when it tramples so much on the innocents ? Tell me why this little girl has to be raped to death, anon. Tell me why this little boy has to be fed to the dogs in front of her mother. If it's all part of God's plan, he's the biggest bastard ever and I hate him from the bottom of my being.

                the bible says we would suffer due to other people(sins of father=other people) and the elements so I don't get why people seethe about what happens in job, giving up and falling into despair will just make it worse.

                My point is Job's story is completely amoral. God cannot give back what he took. The children were lost forever and he allowed it. The fact you miss that convinces me even more that I'm more moral than you are

                >Look at religious weddings with minors in muslim countries. Or how this christian girl in pakistan was sentenced to death because she took the water in the muslim well. Tell me, are those things good ?
                Why are you grouping together different religions? We were, or I was at least, talking specifically about Christianity. And your example is good because it shows the difference in morality between these religions
                >"oh but the children and priests"
                That's an institutional problem, there's nothing in Christianity itself defending it, actually the opposite

                Because Christianity is all clean ? Christianity never burned anybody ? Tortured anybody ? Raped anybody ? Christianity might even be worse than Islam, you know why ? Because of the hypocrisy. It's a schizophrenic, masochistic religion. If you suffer it's all in the name of love. Spare the rod and spoil the child.
                >It was not christianity, it was the institution, the corrupted church
                And it was not communism, it was the soviets. The religion is the church, anon. And all church is corrupted

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                people used their free will to rape and feed those kids to dogs that's not Gods fault. people(free will) and the elements fricked up him and his family, job cursed the day he was born not God cause he understands shit happens while you cant it's not amoral

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because Christianity is all clean ?
                I didn't say that though? I said Christian *morality* rarely justifies shit the people do in it's name. Especially compared to Islam, since you mentioned, it's very compatible with the western way of life, with just a few disagreements (abort or homosexuality, for example) that aren't even that much reinforced. Christians may protest against abort but they won't throw hot oil over women aborting. It's a tolerable opposition. Hypocrisy is still better than violence.

                I'm ending this with my main point because I'll have to leave: you don't need to be a Christian to defend Christian morality, because even if it's not perfect, other moralities (religious or not) may have just as much social influence, and won't be necessarily better, and in fact may be worse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's very compatible with the western way of life, with just a few disagreements (abort or homosexuality, for example) that aren't even that much reinforced
                Yeah because it was secularized a lot and societies could evolve. Listen to religious authorities or the zealots. They would go back to the old times in a second if they could. One could argue people are more tolerant precisely because they believe less than before.
                >Hypocrisy is still better than violence.
                You got a point
                > you don't need to be a Christian to defend Christian morality, because even if it's not perfect, other moralities (religious or not) may have just as much social influence, and won't be necessarily better, and in fact may be worse.
                I would tend to agree

                people used their free will to rape and feed those kids to dogs that's not Gods fault. people(free will) and the elements fricked up him and his family, job cursed the day he was born not God cause he understands shit happens while you cant it's not amoral

                >Muh free will
                If God knows all and can do all he's like a guy letting a blind man cross the street when the bus arrives. You're dancing around this, saying it was "the element" who killed Job's children, but it was God, because he removed his protection. Had he not done it, there would be no story.
                So God killed his children, and he lets children be raped and tortured. He allows evil to continue when he could stop the farce at once if he wanted it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're not protected from other people and the elements. and yes muh free will moron it allows people to do evil and good , if it didn't exist we'd be robots.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a dishonest christgay like 99% of them who doesn't even understand you religion and choose what you like and what you don't like inside like the pickle at the macdonalds. Get outta here, it's a thread for serious people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >let me tell you how Christians should act
                said the God hating gaytheist

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Read Dostoievski. The perfect atheism is the ultimate step before the perfect faith.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already went through that stage of atheism

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                also you don't need to go through atheism to reach perfect faith. most Christians don't read any apologetics to understand better.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most christians know jack shit and understand nothing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I really doubt your faith is perfect

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it is

                Most christians know jack shit and understand nothing

                you don't

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And it was all for shits and giggles
                >God removes Job's protection and gives permission to the angel to take his wealth, his children, and his physical health (but not his life). Despite his difficult circumstances, he does not curse God, but rather curses the day of his birth. And although he anguishes over his plight, he stops short of accusing God of injustice. Job's miserable earthly condition is simply God's will.
                If we all suffer, it's all part of God's will anon. He allows it.

                >incest
                It will be the first one to go. I've seen people openly talking about it on social media in their real profiles, positively, and the reaction to it doesn't come close to the shock it once was. Eventually it's gonna be the next "two consenting adults". And no, not in two more weeks.
                >I think it's foolish to think just because people believe, they'll behave
                They won't but they won't be proud about it, that's what I said. See for example how abortion is treated right now, it went from a necessary tragedy when it was needed to a joke

                Anon there's a reactionary movement in all of the western sphere. Here in France, the far right is almost guaranteed to win the next elections. Do you really think any incest bill will come to pass ? Reaction comes for a reason, because what the society found tolerable no longer is and wants some adjustment. It's a back and forth movement.
                >See for example how abortion is treated right now, it went from a necessary tragedy when it was needed to a joke
                I see what you mean, but it has more to do with the complete irresponsibility most people generally behave. Religious laws can also lead to the most disgusting things and the most revolting cruelty. Look at religious weddings with minors in muslim countries. Or how this christian girl in pakistan was sentenced to death because she took the water in the muslim well. Tell me, are those things good ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the bible says we would suffer due to other people(sins of father=other people) and the elements so I don't get why people seethe about what happens in job, giving up and falling into despair will just make it worse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Look at religious weddings with minors in muslim countries. Or how this christian girl in pakistan was sentenced to death because she took the water in the muslim well. Tell me, are those things good ?
                Why are you grouping together different religions? We were, or I was at least, talking specifically about Christianity. And your example is good because it shows the difference in morality between these religions
                >"oh but the children and priests"
                That's an institutional problem, there's nothing in Christianity itself defending it, actually the opposite

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Athiests dont believe in death?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      more accurately, they pretend it doesn't exist and frequently get mad if you bring it up

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >missing the point this thoroughly
    Dawg I don’t even know where to begin…

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm an atheist and I love this movie
    >They make an idol of all of our fears, and they call it God

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is squire Jons.
    He grins at Death,
    mocks the Lord,
    laughs at himself
    and leers at the girls.
    His world is a Jonsworld,
    believable only to himself,
    ridiculous to all including himself,
    meaningless to Heaven
    and of no interest to Hell.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marcelino Pan y Vino

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally a crisis of faith, if you blindly believe you wouldn't get it too

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm not religious but I am spiritual

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >strung out psychic sex machine selling tattoos near you

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Born that man no more may die
    >Born to raise the sons of earth
    >Born to give them second birth
    He is the Heaven-born Prince of Peace. He is the Sun of Righteousness. He is the King of Kings. Praise Lord Jesus Christ.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it, even though im agnostic, what does that have to do with anything?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll explain. it has to do with harvesting (You)s

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pretentious shitty movie. and Im not an atheist

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