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>The physical appearances of Bertha, Beatrice and Betty are based on redesigns that Craig McCracken briefly considered for Blossom, Bubbles and Buttercup in response to negative reactions from the test audiences for the What A Cartoon! pilots.
Interesting, I'm more impressed that people didn't like the pilot
They probably liked the cartoons but thought the girls looked weird.
I rewatched the pilot a week ago and it is kinda weak. There's no explanation for what the girls are until the 2nd act so for most of the first you're wondering "why are these weird mutant bugs judging a jam taste contest"
>Hm... I need another pose for this little girl character I'm creating... but what should it be??
>AH!! She'll be busting for a piss!
Why are cartoonists so fricking weird bros
She's reeling from getting c**t PUNT'D
you ever meet a kindergartener?
Kindergartners are barely potty trained. Half the time they are trying to not piss themselves while standing around like morons with a full bladder. Half of them don't have the instinct yet to seek the toilet immediately when the "go pee"-alarm goes off and just do the tinkle dance.
Dude, how old were you when you stopped pissing and shitting your pants in public?
It becomes less common after 2 but it still happens up to the first grade. I remember one time in the second grade, a girl told me to stop telling her jokes or she'd pee herself, I didn't realize she meant it. Another time in the second grade I asked the gym teacher to use the bathroom, he didn't let me so I had no choice but to piss myself in the gym.
Usually thata because they're too afraid to ask to go to the bathroom, even now I have to remind myself sometimes that "oh yeah, I can just GO to the bathroom whenever I want"
Artists draw from life. Character comes from life. Stop being so dirty-minded and you'll be happier.
its a unique body pose and face expression
makes the whole body curve inward
vast improvement over the original
I don't mind the bodies but the doll faces are kind of creepy.
These actually look like little girls so no idea why they didn't like it
The final design for PPGs is more or less the same as the original. Craig designed the ROTMGs as a response to the current design being criticized, but the execs told him to stick with the old one.
These redesigns came from a late night bender of paranoia from Craig because a couple test audience kids were confused. Craig calmed down, talked to his coworkers, and moved on
I wonder who are the test audiences actually?
kids
mainly boys
the response to the ppg pilot, which CN was really behind for, was bad compared to dexter and cow and chicken. ppg was almost not greenlit by it, if it wasn't for the fact lazzo really loved craig's work.
Really? b***h i was there in 95 and 96, and witnessed the premiere of those shorts in CN LA when it was still a fork of Cartoon Network USA, before it got its own latin american station, and i liked the PPG more then Dexter.
Looks like in series cosplay.
Kevin was the original fusion design for Steven and Connie.
is there a source to this? If there is that makes sense about the noses
Assuming it's true, wonder why? It's a good design, yet they passed it up for some kind of intersex creatura
You just answered your own question.
judging from the way most of the creative teams behind cartoons look I'm guessing more of them related to the intersex creature over the suave, good-looking chad
>intersex
I mean, it's a boy and a girl fused into one body. Kinda makes sense to make them intersex.
kevin would have been a way better design. stevonnie has this weird lumpy potato head thing going on
Because Calarts and because Sugar got triggered the animator didnt follow her ugly character sheet so in lster appearences she turn her even uglier.
I suppose he was to make and they wanted a more non binary look, but in the end Stevonnie still looks very female
they were supposed to look female so kevin would want to frick them
Stevonnie only looked very female in ITS first appearence because the animator KINDA tried and disobayed Sugar's guideliness, and even then, still, BEAN POTATO HEAD.
Intersectionals just made up Non Binary to justify grotesqueness and borderline drag queens
I don't think that's true.
Dang thats kinda sad, kevin looks pretty cool compared to stevonnies disgusting bean head
Shit, now i see that Kevin's got Connie's head structure. Now it makes sense why they tried to paint him in a bad light despite not really being so, Sugar was really a jerk.
He looks too cool for a combination of those two spergs
Symbionic Titan story was originally the set up of an episode of Samurai Jack.
I would have liked these two as the mains of Symbiotic Titan. Just put them in human disguises.
Aku’s scene in that episode was god tier.
>I am Aku! This world is Aku! And everything in it is Aku!
The early screen test costumes for Adam West and Burt Ward were later used in the Batman '66 comic series almost 50 years after they were initially designed.
cool
The Ben 10 alien Upchuck went through several concept designs, several of which were recycled for the Ben 10000 episodes, notably the other alien heroes Spittor and Arctiguana.
Please tell me they found a use for the one in middle row on the far right.
Closest alien in design I can think of is Echo Echo
First tip right is just Gru with tentacles popping out of his belly.
>I was thinking of making this kind of thread this friday after rewatching pic related
Here's another fun fact, this was the last time any of adult swim original shows would release new episodes until May 25th 2003 when they debut the black and white cards.
Always found it funny how Master Shake and Frylock are nothing like how they are in ATHF but Space Ghost Meatwad is pretty much the same.
They had fingers????
The other day I read a curiosity that Foster's background imaginary friends were originally monsters in PPG, does anyone know anything about that?
Would the series have been better with a fourth brunette girl?
Nope, 3 is the magic number
I’m sure plenty of stuff from the canned SPA Popeye will end up make its way into Unicorn.
With the heavy Tezuka and Fleschier influence it’s going to pull off.
Don't forget the old soviet cartoons too. You can kinda see it in the elf guy here.
Irving was originally going to be apart of the main cast but instead we get Isabella and Baljeet.
He didn’t appear until the second season.
Baljeet was a super-late addition to the main cast if I remember right; he was going to be a minor recurring character but they loved his voice actor's audition so much the role got upgraded.
Based on the first few episodes, it seems like Django was originally going to have that other spot,
>Django
completely forgot about him
Don't forget the bugs from Doof 101. They were originally going to be the C-plot for every episode, but it was decided that would be too much crammed into an 11-minute episode.
They were going to try and put a fricking c-plot into Phineas and Ferb? The show already runs on such a convoluted formula as it is.
Feels like they wanted to continue plots like those 2 ringworm guys from Rocko’s Modern Life.
It was originally going to be a three segment show from what Dan and Swampy have said. So more like three seven and a half minute episodes that star either PnF, Perry, or the bugs though the stories were all set at the same time.
Like you'd have Phineas and Ferb building a skyscraper and Perry would fly by in the background while the bugs might show up in the foreground of another scene but you wouldn't know what was happening with them until the PnF segment ended and the others began.
Pitch Phineas and Ferb have been more like, say, Garfield and Friends with its US Acres segments than what the show eventually became.
>three segment show
Why did these type of cartoons die out? I prefer that over 2 11-minute episodes.
>Why did these type of cartoons die out?
Channels wanting more commercial time.
They don't take up any more time, it's just three 7-minute segments instead of two 11-minute ones.
Actually,modern kid have low attention span
That's also the reason why tiktok beat over youtube
Smartphones didn't even exist when P&F first came out.
That’s actually a really cool idea. The formula they ended up with worked even better for the sake of the show, but the idea of doing a segmented show where both stories happen at the same time is kind of interesting.
Joey Murray?
They look like Harvey characters.
It kinda counts.
Transtech was a Transformer series planned for after Beast Machines, but fell through during the concept stages. A LOT of concept aspects ended up being used in a LOT of subsequent Transformer series. Transtech itself would be brought back in comic form, in looks but not plot.
Some of the Transtech concept designs would also be used outside of Transformers, in Marvel's own Megamorphs toyline.
and Transtech never got an ending with it instead just stopping
>A LOT of concept aspects ended up being used in a LOT of subsequent Transformer series.
List?
The Justice League was at one point going to have a uniform V-shaped design for their costumes but it was scrapped and later given to the Justice Lords.
Pretty sure Seth MacFarlane took this character from Johnny Bravo and retooled him as "Jim" from Family Guy.
Alpha-Red from the rejected Batman cartoon pitch inspired by Pokemon and Power Rangers showed up in Brave and the Bold as the Batman of Zurr-En-Arrh's robot butler.
As a vis devstudent, my favorite thing we're taught in vis dev is push for the most extreme ideas 1st and then grab aspects that you like from all of them to create a slick and streamlined idea. Rather than draw 1 design and go
>Yep, that's definitely the one
Never heard of it. Great advice. Stealing it
The Wu sisters were originally supposed to be Tai Lung's accomplices in the first kung fu Panda movie. They got cut but ended up used in a videogame adaptation, and eventually made it into the cartoons too.
>pic on top left
Boy, does he look familiar...
Eh, doesn't ring a bell to me.
does this count?
were these designs ever reused in Family Guy?
I know he reused some jokes from the short and another short with different characters.
it's adam and eve okay not larry and steve
Well Quagmire was in it.
in the transformers animated series, megatron was going to come back with this design, but they didn't know that this design had already been used, good ideas can be had twice.
>megatron was going to come back with this design
1) Returned Megatron is a different design, not this one.
2) This is concept from Animated's "Heroes" concept stage, not season 4.
3) This came first, not Tarn.
Some, but not all:
- Armada Megatron
- Armada Scavenger
- TFA Shockwave
- TFA Cheetor
Homer is Krusty
Lucky Bob from Histeria first appeared in Animaniacs.
Felix was the original Chat Noir in the Ladybug concept PV but ended up replaced by Adrien in the actual final version of the show. Still in S3 he was introduced as his own character in a different role
In the original TMNT, the Shredder had an older brother named Nagi and he was Yoshi's original rival and lusted after Yoshi's wife Tang Shen. Yoshi was home when he happened upon Nagi who just beaten Shen and was more than likely about to rape her. Yoshi would have none of that. After killing Nagi, Yoshi and Shen fled to America and you know the rest of the story. Nagi never appeared any of the animated or live-action adaptations of TMNT though some of his characteristics would be used in at least a couple of versions of The Shredder, namely being a rival of Yoshi for Tang Shen's affection.
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In G1 Transformers, all the movie characters got numerous design revisions as they got worked into the final designs we know.
The most notable instance of this was for Kup, who in the G1 episode "Chaos" intentionally uses a prior character model to represent him in his younger days as the design is visually less old and worn than his final model.