>am I too much much of a brainlet to appreciate surrealism or any plot that isn't explicitly spelled out by tedious exposition dumps? >no, it's the director that is wrong
tlj was almost good but it was entirely bad. every time it looked like they were going to do something actually interesting, challenging, thought provoking, mold breaking, whatever, they just immediately reverted back to safe old tropes. Leia's dead! oh no wait she's got whamen force power so she can survive the vacuum of space (eye roll) Or how about the whole "let the past die so the future can be born" or whatever in the throne room? nope! let's just do a battle of hoth (it's not hoth that's salt not snow haha bet you feel pretty stupid about now don't you!!) with the nite risky unambiguous bad guy just being as ridiculously campyish villain man as possible. There was def potential in there. I suspect studio interference essentially told him you can't do that cause star wars is sith vs Jedi or some crap, but then they were ok with him fridging snoke? so I dunno. Rian didn't help matters at all by taking to social media for maximum smug.
This right here is why I consider TLJ indefensible. Everything people say it did well, it goes out of its own way to shit on. It's the most 'mature and adult' take on Star Wars if you ignore the dialogue being THE most childish in the franchise. It's the most bold and determined to push Star Wars in a creative and new direction if it didn't keep taking a left turn and subverting its own subversions every two seconds. >"Holy shit, they told us shit isn't going to go the way you think and Finn is about to kamakaze a homie. Are they seriously going to kill Finn...aaaaaand the payoff is gone."
"No, see, because it's salt it's not Hoth"
It was so desperate to be unexpected that shit didn't even make narrative sense anymore. It was like, forgive me for speaking his name, GRRM's example of aliens landing in Westeros. Yes, that would be unexpected. Yes, it takes GoT in a bold new direction. But it would also be completely fricking moronic.
I CAN'T shit on TLJ, no one can, not really. We cak try, but there is nothing I can say or do to TLJ that TLJ doesn't do to itself and at a greater degree.
you're correct in that the first one is extremely dated crap, a genuinely mediocre flick
I did not care for The Godfather
not even controversial amongst homosexual zoomers, try harder >Trump lost.
just boring blueanon shit, 100% of the media agrees with you. not controversial at all
I love trannies they're mostly good people and pretty cute
all leftoids are spirtually troony
Guntards are the stupidest fricking people on earth. They're all pathetic weaklings that don't remember their own rules and laws and regulations and screech into the void about any perceived slight against them as if they had the capacity to actually do something about the life they pushed themselves into.
These same guntards are the ones that have ruined action movies. The autistim surrounding gun culture has forced us to watch the same fricking John Wick movie over and over and over, with people praising how ACCURATE it is as if I want fricking accurate gunplay in a fricking action movie.
Read: If you have ever said the words "WILL NOT BE INFRINGED" you deserve death. Your removal from this planet will only benefit us. You will never be a man, you will never be a woman, you are some blob of gender-unspecific goo that tries to drown out its weakness with a testosterone replacement that you will never use and consoom like the b***h you are.
you're going to hurt yourself you're projecting so hard
This but unironically. When I'm watching the godfather I can't escape the feeling I'd rather be watching something like goofellas, the sopranos, or even Donnie brasco. I get why people like it but there's so much better mafia kino out there.
spaceship, star wars, lotr and "nerd culture" in general is reddit.
yootoobers, podcasters, e-celebs etc should eb on a separate board.
Watching anime is more likely to turn you into a troon than a humanities degree.
Gallo is massively over-rated and is praised here because he acts like a diva.
the earth is round.
Trump lost.
Birds exist
>spaceship, star wars, lotr and "nerd culture" in general is reddit.
Very controversial opinion here, absolutely no one here has been making fun of capeshit for the past decade. Such a brave take
In a way I hate that LotR became part of ‘nerd culture’ as the very premise hated it. Stupid hippies adopted it in the 60s and were so awful Tolkien damn near disowned it. Now it’s these scrawny pricks.
This line is meant to be cringe. I don't get how people don't understand that. It's meant to be uncomfortable for Jet. Btw the dude that plays Jet killed it. Like I couldn't even imagine anyone else playing him now.
Nah, I just refuse to follow the hive mind occasionally and don't care if everyone thinks I'm stupid for it. Netflix does suck but this wasn't even near their worst shit.
>Netflix does suck but this wasn't even near their worst shit.
Oh wow this must mean it's good then. This is entirely different than what you said in your original comment you homosexual.
Exorcist 2 is better than the original
Ridley Scott has remained as consistently great a director as he was when he started, and Napoleon is one of the best films of the year
Alien3 is the best of the series
Zack Snyder is the greatest filmmaker working today
A lot of Star Wars opinions so I'll give mine. I liked Rey and Finn, the movies were crappy but I liked them and their dynamic and was angry they got separated in the second movie.
Sneed pretty much killed this board and its been a fast decline ever since the reddit refugees and turdies started abandoning /misc/ to come here. The worst part is that if Janny actually did his job you could salvage this place.
Cinemaphile died when pepe and soijack refused to go away. 2016 tourists and redditors weren't familiar w/ the culture and failed to understand that memes come and then go when they overstay they're welcome. If Trump ran in 2012 we would still be be seeing the rustling jimmies meme.
I genuinely hate how malicious Wojak has become through its evolutions.
Even if we flung shit at each other since forever on this site, old memes just felt more goofy, more fun, even if it was just some crappy screengrab with impact font over it.
Wojak, Soijak especially just feels so fricking bitter. Theres no fun or joy. Theres only contempt.
Yeah of the two, more morons stuck with wojak while pepe kind of evolved back into this silly little gremlin/awkward goober.
Theres way more wholesome/jovial pepes than wojaks
Absolutely. Seems like now there are fricking "jak" edits being churned out every month nonstop. You're right, it's far beyond just memes, it's complete bitterness. It's honestly disgusting.
They keep making them even more grotesque and irritating looking.
I genuinely hate how malicious Wojak has become through its evolutions.
Even if we flung shit at each other since forever on this site, old memes just felt more goofy, more fun, even if it was just some crappy screengrab with impact font over it.
Wojak, Soijak especially just feels so fricking bitter. Theres no fun or joy. Theres only contempt.
The site's admins did this to themselves. When they wordfiltered s o y it was the beginning of the end. They tried to cancel something and the people here dug in their heels. They miscalculated who has the power around here.
Cinemaphile used to be just fun silly stuff, for some people it's their whole life. You really shouldn't frick with people who have no life. They also have nothing to lose.
The man who loves nothing fears nothing.
It's always seems bizarre and even suspect to me how onions got wordfiltered so swiftly and it's never been unfiltered. I don't even remember the word that gets filtered into based anymore. Kind of scary now that I think about it.
Agree, and it reveals zoomers have inherited this place wherein Star Wars is 80% of the posts here in this thread. This place is absent of actual controversy outside of the last 10yrs that's been generated for them.
My contribution: those people in theaters for Blair Witch deserved to get sick, frick them and frick people who get nauseated while sitting still, looking at a screen. Ridiculous. Just go lay down and die at home.
There is barely enough "important film discussion" to keep a single fart-huffing thread rolling.
Maybe you should just get a fart-huffing discord channel instead?
You know what let me backpedal. This was a strong opinion I had a few years ago but now you’re right it doesn’t matter. When TFA came out I probably didn’t even click on Cinemaphile for like 2 years, but now SW is so raped and ruined that there’s more threads shitposting about Sheev and prequel stuff than there are shills making threads aboit mandalorian and shit. So whatever, nevermind. Rest in shit starjews.
>Spiderman 2002 and The Dark Knight are the two best superhero movies ever made. Nothing will top them.
yeah they are pretty good without being so.y. Both movies have a good sense of scale and don't over do it on the cgi depart. No homosexualverse terminology dickheadedness either
There is no Superman movie in 2002, there's one a decade later that is an autistic character assassination of literally every classic Superman character.
And The Dark Knight is pretentious goofery that would be considered a trash movie if Heath Ledger hadn't excited a generation with his emo NuCrow version of Teh Joker.
Both are tripe only loved by people exposed to it before their brains fully developed, and street-shitters.
>all Star Wars movies are average at best >Doctor Who was always boring >South Korea has perfected the crime-thriller genre >East Asia is superior for any kind of romance movie or show >The Simpsons, even during the peak seasons, was average at best >MadTV is the greatest sketch comedy show of all-time and it's not even close
>MadTV is the greatest sketch comedy show of all-time and it's not even close
There are individual skits that are incredibly funny, but their repetition of skits and characters is excessive
After rewatching Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, and Platoon I can safely say Platoon is easily the weakest. In fact, with the exception of JFK, Oliver Stone is pretty overrated.
I don’t have one, everything I say is right. Probably my most egregious that at least half of everyone will agree with me is >Godzilla 98 >original Bayformers trilogy >Twilight series
all kinography
I enjoyed X-men Origins: Wolverine. I dont care if they "ruined" Deadpool. He was always a gay character. Good or bad, the movie had alot of the coolest X-men characters and there were hardly any black people.
It's okay to watch something that you might not end up liking. And just because you dislike something, that doesn't make it a terrible dumpster fire atrocity. Every piece of media shouldn't warrant such extreme opinions.
I agree with that. There are movies though that are legit atrocities and should never be seen by others. Even if I don't like something, I'll still recommend it to others if there are some redeemable parts to it.
We need more diversity in movies. By that, I don't mean taking extremely saturated stories already familiar in US pop culture and changing the race or gender of some characters. I mean breaking up the budget of some capeshit into a ton of smaller films, then going to all these places and subcultures that barely have any media about them at all and preserving some of the culture. Find the oldest people in x, see if they're interested in making movies out of their legends, historical/current events, local biographies, religious myths, whatever. Supply technical crew and the like and let the storytellers go nuts.
Look at those guys in the Nigerian slums making all kinds of movies for an audience of maybe 1000 people using sticks and trash as props and filmed on a 2009 android phone, why not see what stories they'd tell with some resources. Adapt my grandpa's stories about bloody strikes, feuds, car bombings and poisonings between three 99% identical isolated redneck villages who each treated the other village like a different species. Some myth from an African pgymy village. Newfoundland cod fisherman's legends. Mongolian hunting campfire tales. The life of a modern rodeo bull rider. A whole lot is being lost.
I'm sick of whiny diaspora and 2nd gen American immigrant films sucking up the oxygen of this niche when I could be seeing some cool shit.
Agreed, Hollywood movies these days mostly seem like they're being made by people who grew up inside of the LA film scene and don't have much experience with life outside of it. I remember how back in the 80s and 90s movies would show more real urban grit and blue collar type of life, now everything looks plastic.
>Madman
Hated it. Also, the worst slasher villain name of all-time. Nobody is afraid of someone named Marz. >My Bloody Valentine
Remake was better IMO.
>have zero idea why everyone shits on 2
Because they made it solely about Elastigirl until the very end. I personally have no problem with it, but a lot did. Also, since it was a complete clone of the first, it's a pointless sequel.
within the decade the zeitgeist on this board will jump to saying marvel movies were actually good a couple years after that people will say the new star wars movies are underrated
In a weird way that movie's success was actually the worst thing that could have happened for the MCU going forward. It validated all their stupid ideas about female-led films and every obscure character being a potential gold mine when anyone could have told them it was just fortuitous timing.
They released it when they did on purpose to take advantage of brand recognition and yet they seemed to ignore that was the cause of 90% of its success. It's like they thought popularity was a permanent state and once it was achieved they could just coast on it forever >oh, we kind of tricked you into watching this mediocre movie? >well, now you have to watch all of them >wait where are you going
It wasn't just the timing either.
Captain Marvel was sandwitched between Infinity War and Endgame, and marketing about it for months was that it was going to be pivotal to understanding the Endgame plot and the resolution of the Infinity Stones book of the MCU.
Turns out you literally didn't have to watch it at all becaues the only 'important' part of it was introducing the character, as none of the rest of it had anything to do with the current MCU storyline.
No, I didn't watch it until well after the fact when I did a full Infinite Stones arc watchthrough like 2 years after Endgame came out.
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Its only great sin is that the villains are boring.
Same for The Marvels.
You can't have a hero who can fly through Star Destroyers and re-ignite suns fight....regular people. It's even worse than the typical "oh noes, it's ______ from my home planet/got bit by the same radioactive whatever". It just makes for boring conflict. Like watching Venom flail on a palette swap of himself, pointlessly.
The Captain Marvel rogues were just so goddamn weak.
There is no difference in movie quality from decade to decade. They're all the same. The real difference is that previous decades have been curated, so you see far more good and far less of the bad are available to watch. Releases of the past 15 years have been more available and known about thanks to streaming, piracy, and the internet.
This is just honest truth. I well remember all the garbage in theaters in the 80's and 90's. I had an apartment in the same lot as a major theater, adjacent to a drive-in.
Nah. It's like Alien 3 where there's a lot of potential and individual moments can be kino but it's just too severely compromised for all the pieces to come together. Condensing that story into 2 hours is just impossible.
And it's a shame because the aesthetic is right and it's a great cast. If they'd been smart and given him 2 films like Villenueve it'd probably be the definitive version but instead it's more of a highlight reel that only makes sense if you read the books. When directors renounce their own films it's for reason.
Most of you have become completely shit and not worth talking to. Your tastes fricking suck, and it's not even political, you just like garbage. The fact that you gays jerk off to Sam Hyde and gush about his gay little big brother clone says everything that needs to be said.
The Earth being round was fairly understood by scholars since ancient times. There is ample evidence for it.
The motion of planets and stars was the real mystery.
Even to this day, no one is quite sure exactly how gravity works.
Just last month a whole bunch of theories were discarded about the makeup of the universe.
We know how gravity works at specific scales. However when you apply that knowledge to how gravity behaves at extremely distant scales, it doesn't work, you need an entirely new set of rules. I think dark matter/energy is a huge copout by scientists, they're probably looking at it wrong and missing something critical. Maybe it's a Three Body Problem type scenario. We're just doomed to never figure out why the universe appears inconsistent.
Yeah if you want to be pedantic we don't understand the forces at all. Why are there forces? Why is there anything?
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That's not pedantry, that's an observation that we are no closer to understanding gravity than we were 500 years ago. Now we stuff the Universe with invisible dark magic feathers like a goddamn pillow to make gravity "make sense".
Not really.
Different people in different cultures thought the Earth was different shapes and sizes.
The Chinese thought the Sun was very close to Earth, so using that they calculated that the Earth was either flat, or vaguely convex.
Compare that to the Greeks that thought the Sun was extremely far away, so got a spherical geometry under the same conditions.
star trek was never good
battlestar was never good
gattaca was never good
stargate was never good
holes is a cinematic masterpiece and is in the top 10 best films ever created.
The only reason to ever watch a Batman movie is villain hammery and a couple minutes with a new car. And the villain was garbage in The Batman, and the car was underwhelming.
I think Pattinson actually works but I felt nothing watching that movie.
>The Riddler is just the Joker without the makeup and was too much of a moron to figure out Wayne was Batman despite Wayne being one of his primary targets. >Batman seems to be adhering to his "no killing" rule until he causes a massive freeway pileup and explosion that no doubt killed multiple civillians so he can chase down the penguin and...then just let him go. >Speaking of the Penguin, Farrell really is unrecognizable so I guess it's a good performance but so what? He's just there to be a regular gangster who gives a crucial piece of information at the right time. That character could have been anybody, they just made him the Penguin so they could drop the name to get people excited >Catwoman is just sort of there and contributes nothing but I guess Rob boned her IRL so good for him I guess >the "chuds getting riled up on social media" was an attempt to be topical and like most of these sorts of things, it came across as heavy-handed and overtly political. I'm surprised they didn't give Dano a Trump haircut and have him say something about making Gotham great again just to belabor the point >3 fricking hours? Why?
It has it's moments, but this movie is clearly where Lucas' greed starts seeping into the franchise, there are chunks of it that purely exist to sell merch.
Some old shit paid for by the forced labor of third worlders, or directly stealing from them, just like most places that get huffy about American culture.
>Rings of Power is decent. The people shitting on it haven't even watched it.
why would I watch it if 1) critics that I trust say it's dogshit 2) every single clip I've seen from it supports that opinion and 3) the people involved in the show clearly don't like Tolkien or Tolkien fans and think that his stories need to be Updated For Modern Audiences (tm)?
Anyone that >watches movies at greater or slower than 1x speed >refuses to watch black & white movies >refuses to watch foreign movies >refuses to watch silent movies >can't seperate the actor and their personal life
should all be killed. You're clearly too moronic to live.
breaking bad is gay.
most tv from after 2005 sucks dick.
take me back.
vcrs are better than dvd, and blue rays combined!
frick UOP. >bububububu you can't skip to xyz poopy anus ass
Black person if i stop the movie where was watching the tape physically stays at the same place so I just turn my fricking movie back on.
Frick hdtvs, especially now.
Everything is israelited smart junk anyway.
this movie stinks. i was about to switch it off when peaches started plying, but i gave the movie credit and thought that maybe the song was being used to show how wintsone's character has shit taste. then i read an interview with the director where he said that the soundtrack is comprised of songs he wished he could have directed music videos for, so really johnathan glazer is a dumb homosexual
Affleck is the male equivalent of Megan Fox, completely devoid of acting talent, but attractive and connected. He is reliably the dullest character in any damn movie he is in. Even tertiary characters outshine him.
>Affleck is the first and only cinematic Batman to actually be physically imposing. He heightmogs and framemogs all previous Batmen >Affleck is the first and only cinematic Batman to have even decent fight scenes. Everybody up through Clooney was basically just Harrison Ford-tier "stand there and punch the guy" shit and Bale's Batman did more interesting things but as we all know action isn't Nolan's strongest skill. Batfleck actually fought like Batman should. Fast, agile, brutal, angry. Can you picture Clooney or Kilmer doing pic related? >had the best-looking and most functional cowl and suit. Not too bulky, not too stiff, ears just the right size, didn't look like a diving suit or have Bale's ridiculous tacticool ridged plating. Of all the batsuits, it's the one that looked most like comics Batman >voice modulator finally resolved the conundrum of either an incredibly famous man using his normal voice when doing vigilante shit in a city where literally everyone knew him and hoping no one noticed somehow, or doing the over the top Bale voice that became uninentionally hilarious very quickly >also looked 100% right as Bruce Wayne and was very believable as a world-weary alcoholic millionaire because, well...he is.
Affleck was unironiclly the Perfect Batman. He just happened to get the part when WB was at their most moronic so he went to waste. But he had the most potential of all of them
Affleck's stuntman had one good fight scene, (1).
Affeck's fat ass certainly made him the chonkiest Batman, but he's barely taller than any of them (IF you believe his height).
What Affleck cannot do is sell intensity (or really any other emotion besides a bleary just-got-out-of-bed-after-drinking).
He is a dull and untalented actor. He's not a costume, he's not a car, he's not a trained stuntman, these are all things you can use to gussy up Ben's boring-as-shit Batman/Bruce.
>Affleck's stuntman had one good fight scene
guess they probably should have hired that guy for the first couple movies then >he's barely taller than any of them
bruh Keaton is 5'9 and none of the rest of them claim to be taller than 6ft. And we saw Kilmer with his shirt off, dude was dyel. >He is a dull and untalented actor
He's no Brando or Olivier but is Clooney? Is Keaton? And do they even need to be? The role is more of Schwarzenegger / Stallone-esque action hero than it is a dramatic performance. It's capehsit. The actors need to look the part and be competent performers, not be legendary thespians
Bruce Wayne is literally a man full of Inner Demons doing crazy, dangerous shit at night to exorcize them. Warner Brothers made him dishpan-dull, a big stiff nothingburger who "remembers his dead parents in flashback" then spends the remainder of the movie acting as the straight-man to overacting actors doing villains.
He absolutely should be a memorable character, but is not. He's a dark haired mannequin in a rubber suit.
He should not be this, and no actor is able to escape the thin writing, but Affleck has NEVER been interesting in a movie, evar.
Guntards are the stupidest fricking people on earth. They're all pathetic weaklings that don't remember their own rules and laws and regulations and screech into the void about any perceived slight against them as if they had the capacity to actually do something about the life they pushed themselves into.
These same guntards are the ones that have ruined action movies. The autistim surrounding gun culture has forced us to watch the same fricking John Wick movie over and over and over, with people praising how ACCURATE it is as if I want fricking accurate gunplay in a fricking action movie.
Read: If you have ever said the words "WILL NOT BE INFRINGED" you deserve death. Your removal from this planet will only benefit us. You will never be a man, you will never be a woman, you are some blob of gender-unspecific goo that tries to drown out its weakness with a testosterone replacement that you will never use and consoom like the b***h you are.
I work with so many of these creatures. They follow the price of ammo like it's the stock market, endlessly stockpiling it, cooing over some newly released cawadoody version of a gun they already own 12 different versions of.
I work with so many of these creatures. They follow the price of ammo like it's the stock market, endlessly stockpiling it, cooing over some newly released cawadoody version of a gun they already own 12 different versions of.
No different than any sort of geekdom except guns are specifically designed to kill things.
Guntards are unironically cooler than you because of this.
It's right down there with Funko-pop hoarding.
Except when a Funko-tard gets drunk/irate/strung out on pills/dumped by his old lady, he's not going to blast away at the local Shartmart with his Funkos.
No, he won't. The Republic isn't falling and it never will. You've been sold a lie to convince you to consoom guns and bullets and accessories and hats and clothes and Donald Trump and Trump branded hates and clothes and MAGA gear and you are too stupid to understand that your entire existence has become nothing more than a piggy bank to a bunch of israelites. One day you'll understand.
i don't buy any of that shit lmao. you have made the common fallacy of assuming shit about me based on a single or handful of posts. this happens every day, it's really tiresome.
i'm a proud 2A supporter and don't own a gun. i have a small box of .22 from Sears Roebuck in the 80s. it's like a keepsake or collectible. that's it.
i don't own a gun because it's illegal for me to own a gun. i am a user of drugs, and i don't want to lie on a federal form if i don't have to. if they ever let me own guns, i'll probably get one.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Black powder revolver
5 months ago
Anonymous
is that not regulated in the same way?
i'm thinking of getting a crossbow or something like that. there's no point in the city; i have a hammer for home defense.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, specifically the cap and ball mechanism is so different from modern cartridge technology that it isn't regulated as a "firearm". No form necessary, it can even ship to your door.
5 months ago
Anonymous
cartridge is so superior though. i don't trust myself to not frick up measuring powder.
fricking feds.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, specifically the cap and ball mechanism is so different from modern cartridge technology that it isn't regulated as a "firearm". No form necessary, it can even ship to your door.
>intruder kicks down door >still furiously measuring out gunpowder
yeah i just don't see how this works. you can't leave the thing loaded forever, presumably. i'm sure humidity will ruin powder.
5 months ago
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>drug addict
shocking
>nothing lasts forever... EXCEPT FOR LE HECKIN WHOLESOME CURRENT THING
Pathetic
>I'm going to be the hero of the apocalypse when it all comes down
Bay of Pigs didn't end the world, and nothing we have going on now will either. You're weak, you will die weak, never gotten to show off your fleeting ideals of machismo. I am smarter than you and stronger than you.
The vast majority of anons on Cinemaphile are dilettantes who don't actually watch good movies
there is nothing more disgusting than watching movies to "be entertained"; in such a case you are treating films as drugs, treating them the way ZOG wants you to treat them, pacifying your activity and your tastes.
>100% subjective
Now that you bring it up, that's another thing everyone is wrong on. Quality isn't subjective. In fact, the pursuit of knowledge concerning objective merits in art is the highest form of critique and/or discussion.
All non-documentaries suck at education (and many documentaries suck at it). All that's left is the stirring of emotion, entertainment.
And you cannot subjectively judge entertainment like the tensile strength of materials. It speaks differently to everyone.
>thinks I meant that the purpose of films is education
legit moron
Let me address you seriously this one time, lest you fall into further error. >All that's left is the stirring of emotion, entertainment.
This is not true. At all. The film itself exists no matter what; your electrochemical reaction to it is distinct and independent from it. Rather, you must necessarily judge the film ACCORDING to the FUNCTION of art itself (as The Philosopher said, things are as good/meritorious as they fulfill their function), and by the objective qualities that we can KNOW certainly that it has.
also death of the author is a bullshit cope made up by a moron. seethe about that too if you want
It's literally 100% subjective. The fact that one person can hate a movie and another can love it, proves it.
>NOOOOO MUH CONTENTION OF QUALITY PROVES SUBJECTIVITY
This I hear a zillion times. It's illogical, and I've already addressed it. Contention is not a proof for subjectivity. >https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21144046/#21165722
I will reiterate.
What you are arguing here is that because we form opinions on things that their qualities are undefinable. The reality is that the definable qualities exist first, before our sentiments, and our sentiments are distinct from them. It is up to our reason to understand these qualities, and our sentiments to conform to our reason.
If our sentiments existed first as you argue, then the opinions of any given person on a movie they have seen are just as meritorious as the opinions of another person who hasn't seen that movie.
Not only this, but if you argue that all things are up to taste, then why discuss them as you are now? Your own actions would be illogical. Your only purpose to be on this board would be to make sure there is no discussion of the subjects of said board. Perplexing.
good points. probably apply to most boards here and elsewhere
Prove to me that one film is good. Even some movies hailed as good today were seen as bad or average before. Citizen Kane, which is hailed as the GOAT, was viewed negatively by many upon release.
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He's not actually interested in discussing his own tastes in movies, he's just here to blow faux profundities out of his ass. Disregard him.
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Anonymous
>Even some movies hailed as good today were seen as bad or average before. Citizen Kane, which is hailed as the GOAT, was viewed negatively by many upon release
You're reiterating the same fallacy I've already proven false. >The function of all art lies in fact in breaking through the narrow and tortuous enclosure of the finite, in which man is immerged while living here below, and in providing a window to the infinite for his hungry soul. >The greater the clarity with which art mirrors the infinite, the divine, the greater will be its possibility for success in striving toward its ideal and true, artistic accomplishment.
Therefor I say certainly that A Man Escaped is a good film.
He's not actually interested in discussing his own tastes in movies, he's just here to blow faux profundities out of his ass. Disregard him.
I get one of you gays every thread too. >h-his opinions can't be real because I've never thought that hard about it before, I just want to stuff my face wif popcorn and waff at da movie!!!! >:(
lol better call the wambulance for yourself loser
5 months ago
Anonymous
You haven't proven anything. You have yet to prove that a movie is objectively good. I'll give you one last attempt.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'll give you one last attempt
Nah I'll just let you cry about it if you're gonna be a baby. I don't work on your schedule gay
>Muh 50's French Cinemakino >FFFffffflarrrrrtt......ah, what an incredible bouquet!
not an argument lmfao
5 months ago
Anonymous
No, please. Regale us more on the unassailable greatness of 70 yr old foreign language classics!
You fart-huffing maniac you.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>projecting this hard
lmao
I gave you plenty of chances to prove that literally any movie of your choosing is objectively good, and you couldn't do it. I accept your concession, thanks for admitting I'm right, and you're full of shit. Filtered. Now be a good moron and reply to me when I'll never see it. I know you can't resist.
>I gave you plenty of chances to prove that literally any movie of your choosing is objectively good, and you couldn't do it.
I don't put pearls before swine, although you wouldn't know the difference.
I win.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You are like the Steven Seagal of casual conversation, so far up your own grandiose ass that it reaches the level of comedy. I love it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You're just so hilariously wrong I can't even prove why
and you even gave me another (You) after you said you wouldn't?
Guess I win again.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I gave you plenty of chances to prove that literally any movie of your choosing is objectively good, and you couldn't do it. I accept your concession, thanks for admitting I'm right, and you're full of shit. Filtered. Now be a good moron and reply to me when I'll never see it. I know you can't resist.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Muh 50's French Cinemakino >FFFffffflarrrrrtt......ah, what an incredible bouquet!
There should be more TV-shows about high school girls in school uniforms and those shows should also have supernatural elements and the target audience should be single men in their 30s.
There should be more TV-shows about high school girls in school uniforms and those shows should also have supernatural elements and the target audience should be single men in their 30s.
I think 95% of you are legitimate lonely, bitter, stupid incels and I only see good, thoughtful posts on this board once in a blue moon. None of you are "literally" Ryan Gosling, none of you are close to looking, acting or behaving like that movie star. You are at best one character he has ever played (Lars Lindstrom) and that character was mocking your existence. You are all closer to Tucci's character George Harvey in The Lovely Bones than you are to anything. Get a grip.
>None of you are "literally" Ryan Gosling, none of you are close to looking, acting or behaving like that movie star.
you're probably the most moronic """""person"""" on this board based on the fact you take that at face value
Wolf of wallstreet is absolute dogshit. Completely shallow, not interesting or exciting at all and even fricking looks weird. Its like a fricking baby mobile for adults. OH WOW HE'S DOING DRUGS AND BEING SKEEVY WOOOOOW, OMG A YACHT? PROSTITUTES IN THE OFFICE? WOW A MARGOT ROBBIE PANTIE SHOT.
I started watching it but turned it off after like 10 minutes because I was like, I've already seen Goodfellas and Casino, this seems like it's all the same stylistic choices and rise-and-fall arc all over again.
It's impossible to have a controversial opinion on this board since it's full of contrarians anyway. Also drukthreads are the only good threads on this board anymore, all the other shit are polbaits or newbie redditors trying to prove how they hate some popular movie/director
I mindbroke the HBO TDS4 viral marketer by calling them out, it looks like even the head writer/showrunner got told since she posted about it on her social media. Every time they make a new thread I get filled with joy, it's like watching an autist throw a tantrum over and over. The amount of pure asshurt that radiates from their posts is astonishing, I can't imagine how pathetic they must be irl.
I don't even know what it represents, I like it because it feels "weird", like it's taking place in some kind of truly different ancient mythological universe. The supernatural elements of it are eerie. Even the light in the movie looks weird, something about the way they filmed it.
Heat is overrated. It's alright, but not some kind of masterpiece. Al Pacino overacts too much in it. DeNiro's character is ridiculous for letting the crazy guy join their team just before the heist at the beginning of the movie. Pacino and DeNiro's interactions feel forced. It's a well-made "gangster tries to get out of the life of crime but gets sucked back in" movie, but I don't know why so many people think it's genius filmmaking. Carlito's Way is better.
The Godfather is not great. It stylizes gangster life and makes it seem cool and appealing. Even when you get shot up by twenty guys with tommy guns, you get to die beautifully and dramatically. When in reality getting popped is quick, nasty, and decidedly un-cinematic. A teenage boy watching the Godfather will almost always walk away with a positive impression of being in the mafia, when most other mafia films emphasize how shit ultimately sucks. It’s a film that takes itself very seriously, but isn’t a serious depiction of anything real.
I enjoy most mafia films, including The Godfather, but the whole code of ethics thing that hollywood associated with italian mobsters is the most cringe version of the supremely honorable warrior's code trope there is. Bushido samurai and chivalrous knights pale in comparison to the embarrassment that is mobster ethics in hollywood movies.
>We'll sell guns >We'll prostitute women >We'll commit murder for hire >We'll burglarize peoples homes >We'll extort local businesses >We'll commit fraud >But selling DRUGS??!? That's just evil, that destroys a community
Beyond moronic.
Well, in The Godfather Vito is the only one who doesn't want to sell drugs, and from what I recall one of the reasons he gives is that he thinks it will bring too much police attention on them.
Also, it's pretty clear in the movie that although the mobsters dress in suits and put on a veneer of classiness they're perfectly willing to backstab each other even if they agreed not to, in some cases.
To be a bit more precise, yeah unless I'm misremembering something, I get the impression that basically every mobster in the movie in all of the families, including Michael, Sonny, and Fredo, would all be fine with selling drugs. Vito is literally the only one who is against it. So it's not a mobster thing in the movie, it's a Vito thing.
DBZ is perhaps the only anime where the American dub is superior. The dialogue and electro rock music from the Funimation dub is much more fitting than the gay ass bells and whistles from the original
That Star Wars Andor show really isn't very good. It's like a show was made specifically for people who don't really care about or like Star Wars, but want to be able to say they enjoyed something Star Wars to look cool because "society" (Marketing) demands you like Star Wars.
i can't watch Andor no matter how good it is cause i know it leads to a movie that ends in a suicide mission where everyone dies, that leads to a movie where they kill the death star, only for the power dynamic to stay exactly the same, and the empire having an even bigger "death star" later. it's all pointless.
Sex scenes ONLY EVER reduce the quality of a movie or show. When watching them normally or in public they make everyone uncomfortable, they are only for coomers to watch afterwards alone and the directors barely disguised fetish.
Cinemaphile is a boring board. The same stale threads get repeated over and over for litterally thousands of times.
Also I'm glad bane is dead
Then show me its body.
Why are you here?
i'm here to indulge a deep-seated need to share opinions and receive responses.
Do you feel in charge?
For you.
That's a big opinion.
You mean you don't want to see the ten thousandth post about chili and sea bass, what did he mean by this, or how do you respond without sounding mad?
Bane meme is older than the movie and still going strong though. A rare case.
I like seeing boobs in my kinos
based
when I am WEF president, I will mandate all movies rated pg-13 and above have a 30s or longer topless scene
David Lynch movies are boring as frick and not entertaining in the slightest. Weird for the sake of weird.
>am I too much much of a brainlet to appreciate surrealism or any plot that isn't explicitly spelled out by tedious exposition dumps?
>no, it's the director that is wrong
Your plot should be clear enough as to not need exposition dumps to follow it.
Abstraction feeds inutition. You're just boring/autistic.
The prequels were shite. TFA was alright. TLJ was almost good.
TFA is unironically a better New Hope.
tlj was almost good but it was entirely bad. every time it looked like they were going to do something actually interesting, challenging, thought provoking, mold breaking, whatever, they just immediately reverted back to safe old tropes. Leia's dead! oh no wait she's got whamen force power so she can survive the vacuum of space (eye roll) Or how about the whole "let the past die so the future can be born" or whatever in the throne room? nope! let's just do a battle of hoth (it's not hoth that's salt not snow haha bet you feel pretty stupid about now don't you!!) with the nite risky unambiguous bad guy just being as ridiculously campyish villain man as possible. There was def potential in there. I suspect studio interference essentially told him you can't do that cause star wars is sith vs Jedi or some crap, but then they were ok with him fridging snoke? so I dunno. Rian didn't help matters at all by taking to social media for maximum smug.
This right here is why I consider TLJ indefensible. Everything people say it did well, it goes out of its own way to shit on. It's the most 'mature and adult' take on Star Wars if you ignore the dialogue being THE most childish in the franchise. It's the most bold and determined to push Star Wars in a creative and new direction if it didn't keep taking a left turn and subverting its own subversions every two seconds.
>"Holy shit, they told us shit isn't going to go the way you think and Finn is about to kamakaze a homie. Are they seriously going to kill Finn...aaaaaand the payoff is gone."
"No, see, because it's salt it's not Hoth"
It was so desperate to be unexpected that shit didn't even make narrative sense anymore. It was like, forgive me for speaking his name, GRRM's example of aliens landing in Westeros. Yes, that would be unexpected. Yes, it takes GoT in a bold new direction. But it would also be completely fricking moronic.
I CAN'T shit on TLJ, no one can, not really. We cak try, but there is nothing I can say or do to TLJ that TLJ doesn't do to itself and at a greater degree.
TLJ is KINO.
I don't have any controversial opinions. Mine are all the correct opinions.
Jason Goes to Hell is the best Friday the 13th film
I like it, but it's not the best.
Infinity War is the worst MCU movie
worse than captain marvel?
Anime can be art
Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions are different from but just as good as the original movie.
Not so controversial, a lot of people think like that but are ashamed to admit it.
I really liked the meta-discussion vibes about the franchise in the first half of Matrix Resurrection
you're correct in that the first one is extremely dated crap, a genuinely mediocre flick
not even controversial amongst homosexual zoomers, try harder
>Trump lost.
just boring blueanon shit, 100% of the media agrees with you. not controversial at all
all leftoids are spirtually troony
you're going to hurt yourself you're projecting so hard
Jason X is the only Friday the 13th film I hate. It's not even funny or entertaining, it's just dumb.
I did not care for The Godfather
This but unironically. When I'm watching the godfather I can't escape the feeling I'd rather be watching something like goofellas, the sopranos, or even Donnie brasco. I get why people like it but there's so much better mafia kino out there.
As a family drama it's great, but as a mafia movie it's obsolete and laughably cheesy.
TDS2 is 8/10.
Skibidi Toilet is better than any Star Wars movie or series
I agree that it’s better than the sequel and prequel trilogies.
This is some Zoomie culture that I am just going to let completely pass me by.
Knives Out is kino and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
It is very intelligently written and would be a kino whodunit but they just couldn't resist the urge to dunk on whitey at the end.
Knives out is trash
spaceship, star wars, lotr and "nerd culture" in general is reddit.
yootoobers, podcasters, e-celebs etc should eb on a separate board.
Watching anime is more likely to turn you into a troon than a humanities degree.
Gallo is massively over-rated and is praised here because he acts like a diva.
the earth is round.
Trump lost.
Birds exist
>spaceship,
*capeshit (auto-correct)
>birds exist
go frick yourself
pow right in the kisser
Humanity frick yeah
>spaceship, star wars, lotr and "nerd culture" in general is reddit.
Very controversial opinion here, absolutely no one here has been making fun of capeshit for the past decade. Such a brave take
Yeah, everyone here puts on a good face about dismissing popular sloppa, despite watching hundreds and hundreds of hours of it.
Nerd shit was completely fine before normies and the MCU.
It was Luke drinking the blue milk that broke Cinemaphile.
The MCU and everything else was fine before that.
None of these are controversial opinions
In a way I hate that LotR became part of ‘nerd culture’ as the very premise hated it. Stupid hippies adopted it in the 60s and were so awful Tolkien damn near disowned it. Now it’s these scrawny pricks.
Absolutely none of these are controversial.
Hilary lost.
She won my heart…
liking popular movies is not reddit
The Netflix Cowboy Beebop live action series was actually pretty decent and it's only panned because anime fans are autistic as frick.
>WELCOME TO THE OUCH, MOTHERFRICKER
Yeah, decent writing
"That's not my Fay Valentine, that just some woman with BPD."
Hard pass.
This line is meant to be cringe. I don't get how people don't understand that. It's meant to be uncomfortable for Jet. Btw the dude that plays Jet killed it. Like I couldn't even imagine anyone else playing him now.
>it's bad on purpose
It quite literally is. You're meant to groan and feel for Jet having to put up with this old horny b***h.
>This line is meant to be cringe
Just cut out the middleman and say that the entire show was meant to be cringed.
You are the Hiroo Onoda of Netflix shills
Nah, I just refuse to follow the hive mind occasionally and don't care if everyone thinks I'm stupid for it. Netflix does suck but this wasn't even near their worst shit.
>Netflix does suck but this wasn't even near their worst shit.
Oh wow this must mean it's good then. This is entirely different than what you said in your original comment you homosexual.
easy, Batman Forever with Val Kilmer is the best Batman movie.
Exorcist 2 is better than the original
Ridley Scott has remained as consistently great a director as he was when he started, and Napoleon is one of the best films of the year
Alien3 is the best of the series
Zack Snyder is the greatest filmmaker working today
For, me it goes:
>ESB>>>ROTJ>>>ROTS>ANH>>TCW>>>AOTC>TLJ>TPM>TFA>>>>R1:ASWS>>>S:ASWS>>>>>>>>>>>>>TROS
fite me if you will
ANH, ESB, and Andor are the only "good" Star Wars. Everything else ranges from awful to mediocre.
Spoken like a man with a 16 inch penis
Star Wars was unironically never good, the only exception is The Clone Wars.
Verification not required.
The Clone Wars is proto-Disney trash and turned Star Wars into what it is now.
I’ve watched two seasons of Fishtank Live but it’s actually neither television nor is it a film
TD s2 is the best season and is only hated by morons and redditors.
A lot of Star Wars opinions so I'll give mine. I liked Rey and Finn, the movies were crappy but I liked them and their dynamic and was angry they got separated in the second movie.
Finestkind is kino
Sneed pretty much killed this board and its been a fast decline ever since the reddit refugees and turdies started abandoning /misc/ to come here. The worst part is that if Janny actually did his job you could salvage this place.
Cinemaphile died when pepe and soijack refused to go away. 2016 tourists and redditors weren't familiar w/ the culture and failed to understand that memes come and then go when they overstay they're welcome. If Trump ran in 2012 we would still be be seeing the rustling jimmies meme.
I genuinely hate how malicious Wojak has become through its evolutions.
Even if we flung shit at each other since forever on this site, old memes just felt more goofy, more fun, even if it was just some crappy screengrab with impact font over it.
Wojak, Soijak especially just feels so fricking bitter. Theres no fun or joy. Theres only contempt.
They keep making them even more grotesque and irritating looking.
Idk what you're talking about.
that's why i prefer pepe
Yeah of the two, more morons stuck with wojak while pepe kind of evolved back into this silly little gremlin/awkward goober.
Theres way more wholesome/jovial pepes than wojaks
that's apu apusja not pepe he's pepe's little sidekick
thats not pepe you gaygaggot. that's apu.
Absolutely. Seems like now there are fricking "jak" edits being churned out every month nonstop. You're right, it's far beyond just memes, it's complete bitterness. It's honestly disgusting.
Exactly, there's not even an ounce of humor in it
memes in general used to be more about communicating shared experiences. newer memes are about insulting, dehumanizing and alienating people.
>when the sus is amogus fr
The site's admins did this to themselves. When they wordfiltered s o y it was the beginning of the end. They tried to cancel something and the people here dug in their heels. They miscalculated who has the power around here.
Cinemaphile used to be just fun silly stuff, for some people it's their whole life. You really shouldn't frick with people who have no life. They also have nothing to lose.
The man who loves nothing fears nothing.
It's always seems bizarre and even suspect to me how onions got wordfiltered so swiftly and it's never been unfiltered. I don't even remember the word that gets filtered into based anymore. Kind of scary now that I think about it.
all star wars/capeshit discussion should be banned from Cinemaphile
Agree, and it reveals zoomers have inherited this place wherein Star Wars is 80% of the posts here in this thread. This place is absent of actual controversy outside of the last 10yrs that's been generated for them.
My contribution: those people in theaters for Blair Witch deserved to get sick, frick them and frick people who get nauseated while sitting still, looking at a screen. Ridiculous. Just go lay down and die at home.
Found Footage is the greatest filter. If you're not a FF Chad, you should stop watching movies altogether.
>80% of Cinemaphile banned
>thinks the percentage is that low
No I’ve said it since TFA there should be a Star Wars board. There’s an MLP board I mean what the frick.
There is barely enough "important film discussion" to keep a single fart-huffing thread rolling.
Maybe you should just get a fart-huffing discord channel instead?
You got me all wrong I just don’t want to have to see starshit ever again and it should be relegated to a containment board like the horse trannies.
Ponegays couldn't stay out of every board/topic/thread, Starshitters do not invade threads about non-Starwarshit.
You know what let me backpedal. This was a strong opinion I had a few years ago but now you’re right it doesn’t matter. When TFA came out I probably didn’t even click on Cinemaphile for like 2 years, but now SW is so raped and ruined that there’s more threads shitposting about Sheev and prequel stuff than there are shills making threads aboit mandalorian and shit. So whatever, nevermind. Rest in shit starjews.
This board would improve dramatically if this happened. We also need to ban people who make threads about youtubers and podcasters.
That picture is antisemitic
I havent watched a movie in like 8 years
Spiderman 2002 and The Dark Knight are the two best superhero movies ever made. Nothing will top them.
>Spiderman 2002 and The Dark Knight are the two best superhero movies ever made. Nothing will top them.
yeah they are pretty good without being so.y. Both movies have a good sense of scale and don't over do it on the cgi depart. No homosexualverse terminology dickheadedness either
There is no Superman movie in 2002, there's one a decade later that is an autistic character assassination of literally every classic Superman character.
And The Dark Knight is pretentious goofery that would be considered a trash movie if Heath Ledger hadn't excited a generation with his emo NuCrow version of Teh Joker.
Both are tripe only loved by people exposed to it before their brains fully developed, and street-shitters.
k
>all Star Wars movies are average at best
>Doctor Who was always boring
>South Korea has perfected the crime-thriller genre
>East Asia is superior for any kind of romance movie or show
>The Simpsons, even during the peak seasons, was average at best
>MadTV is the greatest sketch comedy show of all-time and it's not even close
>MadTV is the greatest sketch comedy show of all-time and it's not even close
There are individual skits that are incredibly funny, but their repetition of skits and characters is excessive
After rewatching Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, and Platoon I can safely say Platoon is easily the weakest. In fact, with the exception of JFK, Oliver Stone is pretty overrated.
I don’t have one, everything I say is right. Probably my most egregious that at least half of everyone will agree with me is
>Godzilla 98
>original Bayformers trilogy
>Twilight series
all kinography
I love trannies they're mostly good people and pretty cute
>pedophiles coercing children into cosmetic castration are good
No. Objectively they are not.
>strawman? never heard of him
>strawman
wtf are you talking about? literally disingenuous lying pedophiles both of you
Yeah that's true your strawman scenario would be a bad thing!
Demonstrably not true
I enjoyed X-men Origins: Wolverine. I dont care if they "ruined" Deadpool. He was always a gay character. Good or bad, the movie had alot of the coolest X-men characters and there were hardly any black people.
this even that trans kids diddler freak Liev Shreeber was cool
It's okay to watch something that you might not end up liking. And just because you dislike something, that doesn't make it a terrible dumpster fire atrocity. Every piece of media shouldn't warrant such extreme opinions.
I agree with that. There are movies though that are legit atrocities and should never be seen by others. Even if I don't like something, I'll still recommend it to others if there are some redeemable parts to it.
28 days later is actually a shit movie
We need more diversity in movies. By that, I don't mean taking extremely saturated stories already familiar in US pop culture and changing the race or gender of some characters. I mean breaking up the budget of some capeshit into a ton of smaller films, then going to all these places and subcultures that barely have any media about them at all and preserving some of the culture. Find the oldest people in x, see if they're interested in making movies out of their legends, historical/current events, local biographies, religious myths, whatever. Supply technical crew and the like and let the storytellers go nuts.
Look at those guys in the Nigerian slums making all kinds of movies for an audience of maybe 1000 people using sticks and trash as props and filmed on a 2009 android phone, why not see what stories they'd tell with some resources. Adapt my grandpa's stories about bloody strikes, feuds, car bombings and poisonings between three 99% identical isolated redneck villages who each treated the other village like a different species. Some myth from an African pgymy village. Newfoundland cod fisherman's legends. Mongolian hunting campfire tales. The life of a modern rodeo bull rider. A whole lot is being lost.
I'm sick of whiny diaspora and 2nd gen American immigrant films sucking up the oxygen of this niche when I could be seeing some cool shit.
Agreed, Hollywood movies these days mostly seem like they're being made by people who grew up inside of the LA film scene and don't have much experience with life outside of it. I remember how back in the 80s and 90s movies would show more real urban grit and blue collar type of life, now everything looks plastic.
There Will Be Blood is overrated slop
Raging Bull and 2001 are both pretentious and boring.
Pic related is extremely overrated as frick.
Just Before Dawn, Madman, The Final Terror, The Prowler, Happy Hell Night, Hell Night, My Bloody Valentine, Night School are all notably better.
>Madman
Hated it. Also, the worst slasher villain name of all-time. Nobody is afraid of someone named Marz.
>My Bloody Valentine
Remake was better IMO.
Virtually no difference between Incredibles 1 and 2, have zero idea why everyone shits on 2.
>have zero idea why everyone shits on 2
Because they made it solely about Elastigirl until the very end. I personally have no problem with it, but a lot did. Also, since it was a complete clone of the first, it's a pointless sequel.
There isn’t enough discussion about what is arguably the best movie ever made. Also known as The Beach (2000)!
Ocean's 12 is better than 11 and 13 because they're all stupid and implausible but it's the funniest one
within the decade the zeitgeist on this board will jump to saying marvel movies were actually good a couple years after that people will say the new star wars movies are underrated
The Marvel movies were fine until Captain Marvel, then everything after that was politically-motivated Yidsney supervision slop.
The MCU was dandy until their hubris led them to believe they could sell tickets to Episodes or television movies instead of full theatrical movies.
In a weird way that movie's success was actually the worst thing that could have happened for the MCU going forward. It validated all their stupid ideas about female-led films and every obscure character being a potential gold mine when anyone could have told them it was just fortuitous timing.
They released it when they did on purpose to take advantage of brand recognition and yet they seemed to ignore that was the cause of 90% of its success. It's like they thought popularity was a permanent state and once it was achieved they could just coast on it forever
>oh, we kind of tricked you into watching this mediocre movie?
>well, now you have to watch all of them
>wait where are you going
Are we going to pretend that Marvel Studios hadn't subjected us to a significant amount of mediocre entries before Captain Marvel?
It wasn't just the timing either.
Captain Marvel was sandwitched between Infinity War and Endgame, and marketing about it for months was that it was going to be pivotal to understanding the Endgame plot and the resolution of the Infinity Stones book of the MCU.
Turns out you literally didn't have to watch it at all becaues the only 'important' part of it was introducing the character, as none of the rest of it had anything to do with the current MCU storyline.
Did you go see it in theaters?
No, I didn't watch it until well after the fact when I did a full Infinite Stones arc watchthrough like 2 years after Endgame came out.
Its only great sin is that the villains are boring.
Same for The Marvels.
You can't have a hero who can fly through Star Destroyers and re-ignite suns fight....regular people. It's even worse than the typical "oh noes, it's ______ from my home planet/got bit by the same radioactive whatever". It just makes for boring conflict. Like watching Venom flail on a palette swap of himself, pointlessly.
The Captain Marvel rogues were just so goddamn weak.
/ftl/ threads belong on Cinemaphile
There is no difference in movie quality from decade to decade. They're all the same. The real difference is that previous decades have been curated, so you see far more good and far less of the bad are available to watch. Releases of the past 15 years have been more available and known about thanks to streaming, piracy, and the internet.
This is just honest truth. I well remember all the garbage in theaters in the 80's and 90's. I had an apartment in the same lot as a major theater, adjacent to a drive-in.
People don't agree, though. They always think [current year/decade] is the worst for movies.
It remains true though. There is SO MUCH forgotten 80's slop that it's amazing.
Lynch's Dune was good
nice gets Satan
Lynch won
Nah. It's like Alien 3 where there's a lot of potential and individual moments can be kino but it's just too severely compromised for all the pieces to come together. Condensing that story into 2 hours is just impossible.
And it's a shame because the aesthetic is right and it's a great cast. If they'd been smart and given him 2 films like Villenueve it'd probably be the definitive version but instead it's more of a highlight reel that only makes sense if you read the books. When directors renounce their own films it's for reason.
Simple fact
Most of you have become completely shit and not worth talking to. Your tastes fricking suck, and it's not even political, you just like garbage. The fact that you gays jerk off to Sam Hyde and gush about his gay little big brother clone says everything that needs to be said.
lord of the rings is boring
Shawshank Redemption is a good movie but it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets.
harrison ford is a mediocre lead
90% of the opinions on this board are formed without even watching, much less watching and paying attention to, the source material.
How could you tell?
T2 > T:DF > T1 > the rest
If you know how opinion and consensus is manufactured, picrel is pretty dark.
> Middle Ages
> the earth is round
> no it’s not you moron literally everyone disagrees with you
The Earth being round was fairly understood by scholars since ancient times. There is ample evidence for it.
The motion of planets and stars was the real mystery.
Even to this day, no one is quite sure exactly how gravity works.
Just last month a whole bunch of theories were discarded about the makeup of the universe.
We know how gravity works at specific scales. However when you apply that knowledge to how gravity behaves at extremely distant scales, it doesn't work, you need an entirely new set of rules. I think dark matter/energy is a huge copout by scientists, they're probably looking at it wrong and missing something critical. Maybe it's a Three Body Problem type scenario. We're just doomed to never figure out why the universe appears inconsistent.
>We know how gravity works
No, we've catalogued how gravity responds and operates locally. That's not even close to understanding the mechanics of it.
Yeah if you want to be pedantic we don't understand the forces at all. Why are there forces? Why is there anything?
That's not pedantry, that's an observation that we are no closer to understanding gravity than we were 500 years ago. Now we stuff the Universe with invisible dark magic feathers like a goddamn pillow to make gravity "make sense".
gravity is a misinterpretation of the way large bodies warp space
Not really.
Different people in different cultures thought the Earth was different shapes and sizes.
The Chinese thought the Sun was very close to Earth, so using that they calculated that the Earth was either flat, or vaguely convex.
Compare that to the Greeks that thought the Sun was extremely far away, so got a spherical geometry under the same conditions.
star trek was never good
battlestar was never good
gattaca was never good
stargate was never good
holes is a cinematic masterpiece and is in the top 10 best films ever created.
Battle Beyond the Stars is a more soulful and entertaining version of Rebel Moon.
A man of singular taste.
Just because you disagree with a movie's message, doesn't necessarily make it a bad movie.
Malibus most Wanted is funnier than Dr Strangelove
The batman with Pattinson was actually the best one.
Asters movies aside from hereditary are shite.
All of Nolans movies are boring.
The only reason to ever watch a Batman movie is villain hammery and a couple minutes with a new car. And the villain was garbage in The Batman, and the car was underwhelming.
Frick you the car was the best, especially the reveal scene.
Under
Whelming
Guess you just don't like engines.
I loved the awesome working engines in Fury Road. I was not impressed with the nuBatmobile.
I think Pattinson actually works but I felt nothing watching that movie.
>The Riddler is just the Joker without the makeup and was too much of a moron to figure out Wayne was Batman despite Wayne being one of his primary targets.
>Batman seems to be adhering to his "no killing" rule until he causes a massive freeway pileup and explosion that no doubt killed multiple civillians so he can chase down the penguin and...then just let him go.
>Speaking of the Penguin, Farrell really is unrecognizable so I guess it's a good performance but so what? He's just there to be a regular gangster who gives a crucial piece of information at the right time. That character could have been anybody, they just made him the Penguin so they could drop the name to get people excited
>Catwoman is just sort of there and contributes nothing but I guess Rob boned her IRL so good for him I guess
>the "chuds getting riled up on social media" was an attempt to be topical and like most of these sorts of things, it came across as heavy-handed and overtly political. I'm surprised they didn't give Dano a Trump haircut and have him say something about making Gotham great again just to belabor the point
>3 fricking hours? Why?
Oooooooooo-oooooooo
It's better than Empire
It has it's moments, but this movie is clearly where Lucas' greed starts seeping into the franchise, there are chunks of it that purely exist to sell merch.
Rings of Power is decent. The people shitting on it haven't even watched it.
And I never will. I won't accept greedy Americans turning my culture into some caricature.
what culture would that be?
Some old shit paid for by the forced labor of third worlders, or directly stealing from them, just like most places that get huffy about American culture.
>Rings of Power is decent. The people shitting on it haven't even watched it.
why would I watch it if 1) critics that I trust say it's dogshit 2) every single clip I've seen from it supports that opinion and 3) the people involved in the show clearly don't like Tolkien or Tolkien fans and think that his stories need to be Updated For Modern Audiences (tm)?
Monty Python was never and will never be funny in the slightest and people say it is because they want to say they like british humour or are moronic.
Anyone that
>watches movies at greater or slower than 1x speed
>refuses to watch black & white movies
>refuses to watch foreign movies
>refuses to watch silent movies
>can't seperate the actor and their personal life
should all be killed. You're clearly too moronic to live.
breaking bad is gay.
most tv from after 2005 sucks dick.
take me back.
vcrs are better than dvd, and blue rays combined!
frick UOP.
>bububububu you can't skip to xyz poopy anus ass
Black person if i stop the movie where was watching the tape physically stays at the same place so I just turn my fricking movie back on.
Frick hdtvs, especially now.
Everything is israelited smart junk anyway.
The Raimi Spider-Man movies are nothing special. The way people gush over them is just baffling.
Like so many Batman films, they are completely carried by great hammy villains.
Nobody liked Tobey all that much as Parker.
this movie stinks. i was about to switch it off when peaches started plying, but i gave the movie credit and thought that maybe the song was being used to show how wintsone's character has shit taste. then i read an interview with the director where he said that the soundtrack is comprised of songs he wished he could have directed music videos for, so really johnathan glazer is a dumb homosexual
Batfleck is THE worst Batman (yes worse than clooney and kilmer) and I really dont understand why everyone sucks his dick so hard
Affleck is the male equivalent of Megan Fox, completely devoid of acting talent, but attractive and connected. He is reliably the dullest character in any damn movie he is in. Even tertiary characters outshine him.
>Affleck is the first and only cinematic Batman to actually be physically imposing. He heightmogs and framemogs all previous Batmen
>Affleck is the first and only cinematic Batman to have even decent fight scenes. Everybody up through Clooney was basically just Harrison Ford-tier "stand there and punch the guy" shit and Bale's Batman did more interesting things but as we all know action isn't Nolan's strongest skill. Batfleck actually fought like Batman should. Fast, agile, brutal, angry. Can you picture Clooney or Kilmer doing pic related?
>had the best-looking and most functional cowl and suit. Not too bulky, not too stiff, ears just the right size, didn't look like a diving suit or have Bale's ridiculous tacticool ridged plating. Of all the batsuits, it's the one that looked most like comics Batman
>voice modulator finally resolved the conundrum of either an incredibly famous man using his normal voice when doing vigilante shit in a city where literally everyone knew him and hoping no one noticed somehow, or doing the over the top Bale voice that became uninentionally hilarious very quickly
>also looked 100% right as Bruce Wayne and was very believable as a world-weary alcoholic millionaire because, well...he is.
Affleck was unironiclly the Perfect Batman. He just happened to get the part when WB was at their most moronic so he went to waste. But he had the most potential of all of them
Affleck's stuntman had one good fight scene, (1).
Affeck's fat ass certainly made him the chonkiest Batman, but he's barely taller than any of them (IF you believe his height).
What Affleck cannot do is sell intensity (or really any other emotion besides a bleary just-got-out-of-bed-after-drinking).
He is a dull and untalented actor. He's not a costume, he's not a car, he's not a trained stuntman, these are all things you can use to gussy up Ben's boring-as-shit Batman/Bruce.
>Affleck's stuntman had one good fight scene
guess they probably should have hired that guy for the first couple movies then
>he's barely taller than any of them
bruh Keaton is 5'9 and none of the rest of them claim to be taller than 6ft. And we saw Kilmer with his shirt off, dude was dyel.
>He is a dull and untalented actor
He's no Brando or Olivier but is Clooney? Is Keaton? And do they even need to be? The role is more of Schwarzenegger / Stallone-esque action hero than it is a dramatic performance. It's capehsit. The actors need to look the part and be competent performers, not be legendary thespians
Bruce Wayne is literally a man full of Inner Demons doing crazy, dangerous shit at night to exorcize them. Warner Brothers made him dishpan-dull, a big stiff nothingburger who "remembers his dead parents in flashback" then spends the remainder of the movie acting as the straight-man to overacting actors doing villains.
He absolutely should be a memorable character, but is not. He's a dark haired mannequin in a rubber suit.
He should not be this, and no actor is able to escape the thin writing, but Affleck has NEVER been interesting in a movie, evar.
Deep Space Nine is boring and significantly inferior to Babylon 5, and Sisko is the worst Trek captain.
Guntards are the stupidest fricking people on earth. They're all pathetic weaklings that don't remember their own rules and laws and regulations and screech into the void about any perceived slight against them as if they had the capacity to actually do something about the life they pushed themselves into.
These same guntards are the ones that have ruined action movies. The autistim surrounding gun culture has forced us to watch the same fricking John Wick movie over and over and over, with people praising how ACCURATE it is as if I want fricking accurate gunplay in a fricking action movie.
Read: If you have ever said the words "WILL NOT BE INFRINGED" you deserve death. Your removal from this planet will only benefit us. You will never be a man, you will never be a woman, you are some blob of gender-unspecific goo that tries to drown out its weakness with a testosterone replacement that you will never use and consoom like the b***h you are.
I work with so many of these creatures. They follow the price of ammo like it's the stock market, endlessly stockpiling it, cooing over some newly released cawadoody version of a gun they already own 12 different versions of.
No different than any sort of geekdom except guns are specifically designed to kill things.
Guntards are unironically cooler than you because of this.
It's right down there with Funko-pop hoarding.
Except when a Funko-tard gets drunk/irate/strung out on pills/dumped by his old lady, he's not going to blast away at the local Shartmart with his Funkos.
You will be killed by a guntard when the Republic falls.
No, he won't. The Republic isn't falling and it never will. You've been sold a lie to convince you to consoom guns and bullets and accessories and hats and clothes and Donald Trump and Trump branded hates and clothes and MAGA gear and you are too stupid to understand that your entire existence has become nothing more than a piggy bank to a bunch of israelites. One day you'll understand.
>nothing lasts forever... EXCEPT FOR LE HECKIN WHOLESOME CURRENT THING
Pathetic
i don't buy any of that shit lmao. you have made the common fallacy of assuming shit about me based on a single or handful of posts. this happens every day, it's really tiresome.
i'm a proud 2A supporter and don't own a gun. i have a small box of .22 from Sears Roebuck in the 80s. it's like a keepsake or collectible. that's it.
i don't own a gun because it's illegal for me to own a gun. i am a user of drugs, and i don't want to lie on a federal form if i don't have to. if they ever let me own guns, i'll probably get one.
Black powder revolver
is that not regulated in the same way?
i'm thinking of getting a crossbow or something like that. there's no point in the city; i have a hammer for home defense.
Yeah, specifically the cap and ball mechanism is so different from modern cartridge technology that it isn't regulated as a "firearm". No form necessary, it can even ship to your door.
cartridge is so superior though. i don't trust myself to not frick up measuring powder.
fricking feds.
>intruder kicks down door
>still furiously measuring out gunpowder
yeah i just don't see how this works. you can't leave the thing loaded forever, presumably. i'm sure humidity will ruin powder.
>drug addict
shocking
>I'm going to be the hero of the apocalypse when it all comes down
Bay of Pigs didn't end the world, and nothing we have going on now will either. You're weak, you will die weak, never gotten to show off your fleeting ideals of machismo. I am smarter than you and stronger than you.
Weak homosexual detected
it's "shall not be infringed", you stupid b***h
Weak homosexual detected
oh, yeah, but you're so tough talking shit while hiding behind internet anonymity. gimme a break.
Weak homosexual detected
If people thought they were accurate, they don't know shit about guns. John Wick would have been deaf long before the first movie.
Nintendo is a good company. That's controversial here because people have a hate boner for nintendo on this site.
The vast majority of anons on Cinemaphile are dilettantes who don't actually watch good movies
there is nothing more disgusting than watching movies to "be entertained"; in such a case you are treating films as drugs, treating them the way ZOG wants you to treat them, pacifying your activity and your tastes.
>good movies
100% subjective. You're moronic if you don't understand that.
>100% subjective
Now that you bring it up, that's another thing everyone is wrong on. Quality isn't subjective. In fact, the pursuit of knowledge concerning objective merits in art is the highest form of critique and/or discussion.
All non-documentaries suck at education (and many documentaries suck at it). All that's left is the stirring of emotion, entertainment.
And you cannot subjectively judge entertainment like the tensile strength of materials. It speaks differently to everyone.
>thinks I meant that the purpose of films is education
legit moron
Let me address you seriously this one time, lest you fall into further error.
>All that's left is the stirring of emotion, entertainment.
This is not true. At all. The film itself exists no matter what; your electrochemical reaction to it is distinct and independent from it. Rather, you must necessarily judge the film ACCORDING to the FUNCTION of art itself (as The Philosopher said, things are as good/meritorious as they fulfill their function), and by the objective qualities that we can KNOW certainly that it has.
also death of the author is a bullshit cope made up by a moron. seethe about that too if you want
>NOOOOO MUH CONTENTION OF QUALITY PROVES SUBJECTIVITY
This I hear a zillion times. It's illogical, and I've already addressed it. Contention is not a proof for subjectivity.
>https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21144046/#21165722
I will reiterate.
What you are arguing here is that because we form opinions on things that their qualities are undefinable. The reality is that the definable qualities exist first, before our sentiments, and our sentiments are distinct from them. It is up to our reason to understand these qualities, and our sentiments to conform to our reason.
If our sentiments existed first as you argue, then the opinions of any given person on a movie they have seen are just as meritorious as the opinions of another person who hasn't seen that movie.
Not only this, but if you argue that all things are up to taste, then why discuss them as you are now? Your own actions would be illogical. Your only purpose to be on this board would be to make sure there is no discussion of the subjects of said board. Perplexing.
thanks 😀
Prove to me that one film is good. Even some movies hailed as good today were seen as bad or average before. Citizen Kane, which is hailed as the GOAT, was viewed negatively by many upon release.
He's not actually interested in discussing his own tastes in movies, he's just here to blow faux profundities out of his ass. Disregard him.
>Even some movies hailed as good today were seen as bad or average before. Citizen Kane, which is hailed as the GOAT, was viewed negatively by many upon release
You're reiterating the same fallacy I've already proven false.
>The function of all art lies in fact in breaking through the narrow and tortuous enclosure of the finite, in which man is immerged while living here below, and in providing a window to the infinite for his hungry soul.
>The greater the clarity with which art mirrors the infinite, the divine, the greater will be its possibility for success in striving toward its ideal and true, artistic accomplishment.
Therefor I say certainly that A Man Escaped is a good film.
I get one of you gays every thread too.
>h-his opinions can't be real because I've never thought that hard about it before, I just want to stuff my face wif popcorn and waff at da movie!!!! >:(
lol better call the wambulance for yourself loser
You haven't proven anything. You have yet to prove that a movie is objectively good. I'll give you one last attempt.
>I'll give you one last attempt
Nah I'll just let you cry about it if you're gonna be a baby. I don't work on your schedule gay
not an argument lmfao
No, please. Regale us more on the unassailable greatness of 70 yr old foreign language classics!
You fart-huffing maniac you.
>projecting this hard
lmao
>I gave you plenty of chances to prove that literally any movie of your choosing is objectively good, and you couldn't do it.
I don't put pearls before swine, although you wouldn't know the difference.
I win.
You are like the Steven Seagal of casual conversation, so far up your own grandiose ass that it reaches the level of comedy. I love it.
>You're just so hilariously wrong I can't even prove why
and you even gave me another (You) after you said you wouldn't?
Guess I win again.
I gave you plenty of chances to prove that literally any movie of your choosing is objectively good, and you couldn't do it. I accept your concession, thanks for admitting I'm right, and you're full of shit. Filtered. Now be a good moron and reply to me when I'll never see it. I know you can't resist.
>Muh 50's French Cinemakino
>FFFffffflarrrrrtt......ah, what an incredible bouquet!
It's literally 100% subjective. The fact that one person can hate a movie and another can love it, proves it.
holy based
not controversial
good points. probably apply to most boards here and elsewhere
There should be more TV-shows about high school girls in school uniforms and those shows should also have supernatural elements and the target audience should be single men in their 30s.
Never seen the Sopranos and I'm not going to because I hate mafia shit and I hate the New Jersey accent in general.
Suicide Squad was VASTLY better than the Suicide Squad. It's not even close.
If it doesn't get me to look up from my phone, it's shit. Simple as. Margot Robbie's ass got me to look up.
Cinemaphile is a shit board
into the trash it goes
im a big guy, for you
what's it feel like to be a mass reply redditor with a bunch of shitty opinions?
Howard the Duck is an 80s classic.
>Stanley Kubrick's movies are EXTREMELY boring and slow.
>Stephen King movies suck
I think 95% of you are legitimate lonely, bitter, stupid incels and I only see good, thoughtful posts on this board once in a blue moon. None of you are "literally" Ryan Gosling, none of you are close to looking, acting or behaving like that movie star. You are at best one character he has ever played (Lars Lindstrom) and that character was mocking your existence. You are all closer to Tucci's character George Harvey in The Lovely Bones than you are to anything. Get a grip.
Learn to read, moron, OP said CONTROVERSIAL opinions, not things everyone already knows.
>None of you are "literally" Ryan Gosling, none of you are close to looking, acting or behaving like that movie star.
you're probably the most moronic """""person"""" on this board based on the fact you take that at face value
Interstellar is a bad movie that Christopher Nolan should be embarrassed of.
If he's not shamed by the Dark Knight trilogy, nothing else will redden his cheeks.
He has the absolutely massive success of The Dark Knight that he can use to cope with the fact that the rest of the trilogy is ass.
Wolf of wallstreet is absolute dogshit. Completely shallow, not interesting or exciting at all and even fricking looks weird. Its like a fricking baby mobile for adults. OH WOW HE'S DOING DRUGS AND BEING SKEEVY WOOOOOW, OMG A YACHT? PROSTITUTES IN THE OFFICE? WOW A MARGOT ROBBIE PANTIE SHOT.
One of scorcese's weakest films.
I started watching it but turned it off after like 10 minutes because I was like, I've already seen Goodfellas and Casino, this seems like it's all the same stylistic choices and rise-and-fall arc all over again.
peep show was the most prolific show to come out of the uk, everything else is moronic in comparison
>prolific
using words you don't know the meaning of makes you look moronic, moron.
ok britbong
It's impossible to have a controversial opinion on this board since it's full of contrarians anyway. Also drukthreads are the only good threads on this board anymore, all the other shit are polbaits or newbie redditors trying to prove how they hate some popular movie/director
/hor/ in October are the greatest threads on Cinemaphile all year, and it's not even close.
I mindbroke the HBO TDS4 viral marketer by calling them out, it looks like even the head writer/showrunner got told since she posted about it on her social media. Every time they make a new thread I get filled with joy, it's like watching an autist throw a tantrum over and over. The amount of pure asshurt that radiates from their posts is astonishing, I can't imagine how pathetic they must be irl.
Excalibur is a shit movie and people only like it for what it represents and not for any quality of the movie itself.
I don't even know what it represents, I like it because it feels "weird", like it's taking place in some kind of truly different ancient mythological universe. The supernatural elements of it are eerie. Even the light in the movie looks weird, something about the way they filmed it.
Baneposting was never funny.
jews are way better at making movies than gentiles
Heat is overrated. It's alright, but not some kind of masterpiece. Al Pacino overacts too much in it. DeNiro's character is ridiculous for letting the crazy guy join their team just before the heist at the beginning of the movie. Pacino and DeNiro's interactions feel forced. It's a well-made "gangster tries to get out of the life of crime but gets sucked back in" movie, but I don't know why so many people think it's genius filmmaking. Carlito's Way is better.
Agreed. Also Val Kilmer's character is just kinda standing around looking dopey for most of the movie.
This is the exact scene where Game of Thrones plunged into mediocrity.
The Godfather is not great. It stylizes gangster life and makes it seem cool and appealing. Even when you get shot up by twenty guys with tommy guns, you get to die beautifully and dramatically. When in reality getting popped is quick, nasty, and decidedly un-cinematic. A teenage boy watching the Godfather will almost always walk away with a positive impression of being in the mafia, when most other mafia films emphasize how shit ultimately sucks. It’s a film that takes itself very seriously, but isn’t a serious depiction of anything real.
i.e. it insists upon itself
I enjoy most mafia films, including The Godfather, but the whole code of ethics thing that hollywood associated with italian mobsters is the most cringe version of the supremely honorable warrior's code trope there is. Bushido samurai and chivalrous knights pale in comparison to the embarrassment that is mobster ethics in hollywood movies.
>We'll sell guns
>We'll prostitute women
>We'll commit murder for hire
>We'll burglarize peoples homes
>We'll extort local businesses
>We'll commit fraud
>But selling DRUGS??!? That's just evil, that destroys a community
Beyond moronic.
Well, in The Godfather Vito is the only one who doesn't want to sell drugs, and from what I recall one of the reasons he gives is that he thinks it will bring too much police attention on them.
Also, it's pretty clear in the movie that although the mobsters dress in suits and put on a veneer of classiness they're perfectly willing to backstab each other even if they agreed not to, in some cases.
To be a bit more precise, yeah unless I'm misremembering something, I get the impression that basically every mobster in the movie in all of the families, including Michael, Sonny, and Fredo, would all be fine with selling drugs. Vito is literally the only one who is against it. So it's not a mobster thing in the movie, it's a Vito thing.
I liked Donnie Brasco because it shows how moronic they are, busting open parking meters for change and shit
films have been dead since the 2000s
now it's just a corpse on strings
Stavros is the best member of cumtown and deserves success the most
Breaking Bad is dogshit.
DBZ is perhaps the only anime where the American dub is superior. The dialogue and electro rock music from the Funimation dub is much more fitting than the gay ass bells and whistles from the original
That Star Wars Andor show really isn't very good. It's like a show was made specifically for people who don't really care about or like Star Wars, but want to be able to say they enjoyed something Star Wars to look cool because "society" (Marketing) demands you like Star Wars.
i can't watch Andor no matter how good it is cause i know it leads to a movie that ends in a suicide mission where everyone dies, that leads to a movie where they kill the death star, only for the power dynamic to stay exactly the same, and the empire having an even bigger "death star" later. it's all pointless.
Codslop was fine. The small 16 player matches on hardcode were no bullshit, instant action gunfights. I just wanna shoot people with 1911's
Sex scenes ONLY EVER reduce the quality of a movie or show. When watching them normally or in public they make everyone uncomfortable, they are only for coomers to watch afterwards alone and the directors barely disguised fetish.
Same goes for video games and discussion in general. It's low effort clickbait used by morons with nothing of value to contribute.
Season 3 of Twin Peaks is pure, unfiltered shit.
Kubrick's a hack