Imagine being a millionaire and finding the most desperate and miserable people out in the world who are trying to cope with their suffering through spirituality and mocking them for your vacation documentary, then saying that shit changed your life... lmao
Not OP. It didn’t change my life at all but was very entertaining. I enjoy it when Christians are made uncomfortable. One guy was ok until I reminded him that his kids would die and their life was meaningless. They’re brave in the face of death until you mention their kids. They always told me “dude just wait until you have a kid. When you look at something so beautiful and pure that was made out of love… you’ll believe in god, I promise.” Lol. Lmao
>Imagine being a millionaire and finding the most desperate and miserable people out in the world who are trying to cope
yeah they made kenneth COPEland very rich
>Pastor Anderson
This dude went from Hollywood failure after Lost and really turned his life around. A lot of has-been actors amount to nothing but he found God and made a real difference.
Why do you believe in God? What gave you faith? If it was your parents, don't even reply.
I want to know how one finds God on their own. I just can't find anything there that is believable
In terms of why I believe in God, a supernatural creator is a prerequisite of the universe. If all physical things have are an effect with a cause, there must be a root cause not subject to the same laws. Where did matter come from? Why did it start expanding? How did the unlikely miracle of life happen? Without some kind of Creator these problems can't be solved.
In regards to why I believe the words of the Bible, I can't really put it into words. There are too many times in my life where I've read it and it had the perfect bit of wisdom, too many times it provided me with a real sense of something greater, for me to overlook it. I understand if that's not terribly convincing, but faith is a personal thing that you have to feel to understand, I think
That implies human logic is the only way to understand the universe. The fact that we dont know how to answer those question is no excuse to give it a face, an intention and a book.
You don't know how to answer the question either, genius. Except we don't just make up our own answers based on the imaginary will of our invisible sky daddy. We just accept that we don't know the answer & move on with our lives. Maybe someone will figure it out some day?
I personally think that religion does an amazing job filling some kind of an emptiness inside people. It can give your life meaning and a direction when things are going badly otherwise. Religion definitely has its place in modern society still.
You have to actually do shit in your life to engender that sort of perspective. Years ago I would volunteer, meditate, come up with poems and songs and write about what I was grateful for etc. That was me at my most religious although I never adhered to any specific creed. Now I barely go outside and i’m agnostic again
Do you people really think the geniuses that believed in God were just uncritically accepting things their whole lives, and they never thought of the points you bring up? Descartes questioned literally everything, his own existence, and still continued to believe. Of course he must have some reasons. You aren't braver or more intelligent than guys like that lol.
Now, you can be skeptical and run the whole gauntlet, which if you can even manage it, is a painful experience that brings you right back to where your parents left you off. Or you can do what most people do about 99% of things, and what is totally reasonable and useful, have faith and move on and be patient that life will reveal more with time. This is the best option for 99% of people. The vast majority of people aren't suited to think deeply about religion and they only end up half considering things, if that, and they get stuck at some point where their intelligence gives out and make that the basis of their beliefs.
nta but wasn't descartes thing that he believed int he essense of god and therefore there was a god. seemed kinda dumb to me, like "i think there is a god therefore there is a god".. not really a compelling argument.
Maher is such a dishonest gay >"You believe in God?! You're so stupid!" >"You believe in 78 genders and men can get pregnant?! Well, I respect your opinion on these new ideas and we have to have serious discussions about it."
Not really. All he said is that it was "trendy" and "encouraged" by liberals. He's never said "The idea of a male born athlete declaring himself female and winning all the female gold medals is nonsense." or "Men can't get pregnant, it's biologically impossible!".
Suddenly Mr. "Why don't religious people believe in science?" is suddenly not asking this question to liberal trannies.
So he doesn't talk about this on his show, but on another show? And again he's handling it with such kid gloves. If this was a Christian religion saying "there's this Bible verse that says men and women are the same biologically" he would be screaming about it every show (on his own show).
1 year ago
Anonymous
Maybe something that has been around for a thousand years and reigned over society for much, much longer, deserved his bigger reaction, yeah?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Maybe something that has been around for a thousand years and reigned over society for much, much longer, deserved his bigger reaction, yeah?
Incorrect. His argument was based in anti-science. "How can religious people be sooooo anti-science?" But when libtards are anti-science he completely ignores the anti-science aspect of it. It's really sad and shows what a pathetic gay Bill Maher is.
His opinions on free speech are even worse >"Celebrities should stop apologizing to the Twitter mob!"
then >"I have to apologize, I said the N-word last week and I was wrong. Tonight we have Ice Cube so I can lick his asshole to show my forgiveness."
These examples don't help your case. He's bringing it up and making light of it. Never once does he say "THIS IS ANTI-SCIENCE", which he said about religious people for decades.
1 year ago
Anonymous
accept bill into your heart
1 year ago
Anonymous
>accept bill into your heart
You sound like a dumb gay. And I will never accept some retard that cries about FREE SPEECH then literally apologizes for a joke the next week.
mentally ill individuals like yourself don't deserve that level of respect, only derision.
go ahead, reply with "cope" or whatever other stock rebuttals because you le won in your mind
the shit about pagan parallels (mithra, etc) to the life of jesus is made up bullshit that some writer pulled out of their ass and everyone ran with. and there isn't a gay gene.
Lamias.
The garden of Eden.
Djinns.
The qippoz.
Diluvian epic.
The idea that Helion is the one god and he has a bunch of children who are gods of different people, like Yahweh being the god of the people of Jacob (garden gnomes). Yes, ancient Christianity was politheistic.
The ten commandments.
The book of Isaiah.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>In the earliest stories, Lamia was a beautiful queen of Libya who had an affair with Zeus. Upon learning this, Zeus's wife Hera robbed Lamia of her children, the offspring of her affair with Zeus, either by kidnapping or by killing them
Okay and this has paralells to what old testament story?
1 year ago
Anonymous
The Lilitu, which became the Lilith, Adam's first wife in non-canonical lore.
In the original scriptures the lamia, or the lilitu, are one of the desert demons. Before the Bible was edited to be moved away from their more mystical origins there were a lot of supernatural creatures described.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Dude... just stop this got more absurd than the Zeitgeist BS in record time.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's just embarrassing for you, buddy.
Isaiah 34
Her nobles shall be no more, nor shall kings be proclaimed there; all her princes are gone. (13) Her castles shall be overgrown with thorns, her fortresses with thistles and briers. She shall become an abode for jackals and a haunt for ostriches. (14) Wildcats shall meet with desert beasts, satyrs shall call to one another; There shall the Lilith repose, and find for herself a place to rest. (15) There the hoot owl shall nest and lay eggs, hatch them out and gather them in her shadow; There shall the kites assemble, none shall be missing its mate. (16) Look in the book of the LORD and read: No one of these shall be lacking, For the mouth of the LORD has ordered it, and His spirit shall gather them there. (17) It is He who casts the lot for them, and with His hands He marks off their shares of her; They shall possess her forever, and dwell there from generation to generation.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's getting worse
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nta but can you explain using your own knowledge of the Bible and the context it was made it, why is what anon is saying crazy? I honestly don't know
1 year ago
Anonymous
he claims that the bible was "edited" because he thinks it will somehow undo the fact that a man came back from the dead
1 year ago
Anonymous
Literally quoting the Bible is about as worse as it gets, wouldn't you say?
The establishment needs leftism to look appealing to the masses for people to buy in. Bill Maher is the guy who steers the far left dialogue back to normies.
Learn to understand nuance you fucking caveman brain. Also, get fucked.
Bill Maher is largely irrelevant now, where extreme leftists are extremely popular with huge platforms.
When Sam Harris and Bill Maher said that Islam was extreme and misogynistic Ben Affleck threw a hissy fit saying it was gross and phobic and the left sided with him.
The Establishment has demonstrably endorsed Antifa and BLM, rioting and lynching.
There is no such thing as appeal to normies, they don't have to. If you don't agree with their extremism you're instantly destroyed and shut down, normies that full well.
He’s still a huge name on twitter and his job is what I stated. Whether or not that serves any purpose for the establishment or not anymore, is debatable.
>Religious people: *quietly and respectfully* we think you should follow Christ to save yourself and live a better life. If you don't I wish you the best and hope you change your mind. >2000s New Atheist people: Nutjobs! Cultists! HAHA! Idiots! It doesn't make sense! Zombie Carpenter! Remember those conflicts hundreds of years ago? That's your fault!
>Atheist dictators killed 150m people but because they didnt explicitly say “I’m doing this for atheism!” that gives them the moral high ground over Christians
Yes, because atheism is not a religion. It's the default state.
That's like saying "all dictators that have ever lived were males, so I guess that means they were causing genocides in the name of masculinity"
That's so fucking stupid.
Being born male isn’t a choice like Atheism is. And Atheists are more likely to be mass murderers than Christians. And Atheist dictators killed 150m people.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Everyone is born atheist and some children get groomed into your cult.
people: *quietly and respectfully* we think you should follow Christ to save yourself and live a better life. If you don't I wish you the best and hope you change your mind.
lol
lmao
I don't like this movie. Most of the guys Bill Maher pokes fun at in this movie are just people trying to worship in peace. There's a lot to criticize and poke fun of about religious bureaucracy and how religion invades American politics, but it feels like Maher punches down when he makes fun of that one trucker church or the jesus actor.
I'm an atheist but I really came to hate Bill Maher because of this movie (never heard of him before that). He's so smug that I just want to punch him.
This but unironically. I was raised christcucked and thought atheism was all about the big bang and shit, this film made me realise its about how it makes no sense to be in some weird trauma bond with a guy who may or may not have lived in a desert 2000 years ago.
Take the agnosticism pill. Religitards and gaytheists are equally stupid.
To have total belief in one thing or the other implies you have enough knowledge to form a certainty, which neither groups have.
Nothing to do with our universe's conception is certain.
>I was raised christian
Same but my boomer parents did a terrible job explaining things and even went against Church teaching. Came back to the Church some time ago. If you turned away chances are you were never properly catechised.
Take the agnosticism pill. Religitards and gaytheists are equally stupid.
To have total belief in one thing or the other implies you have enough knowledge to form a certainty, which neither groups have.
Nothing to do with our universe's conception is certain.
>just be a coward and do whatever, bro
Worst move one can make. Being lukewarm is cringe.
>ur a coward
What the fuck are you talking about?
Tell me, what is the proof you have God's existence/non-existence?
You have none. And if you can't prove it, why would you select a belief?
Notice none of the names you called me were reasonable arguments against my point.
>Tell me, what is the proof you have God's existence/non-existence?
2000 years of Catholic Church. Better than anything else in this world. If you cared you'd know but you decide to hide behind your self-righteousness.
Hinduism is retarded on its face, just for reasons of rationality. Then again, I'm not talking about "Christianity", I'm explicitly talking about Christ's one true Church.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So a book that contradicts itself several times isn't retarded?
Or a religion that needed a second book to retcon the first book, while simultaneously claiming both are correct?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Are you just pretending to be ignorant? Is it one of those cases? If so, you are a garbage person. If not, stop talking about things you know nothing about.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No argument. I have read the bible, you have not.
> So a book that contradicts itself several times isn't retarded?
nuance and context bad
>Or a religion that needed a second book to retcon the first book, while simultaneously claiming both are correct?
NOOOO YOU CANT WRITE A SECOND BOOK AFTER YOU ALREADY WROTE ONE!
>one books literally contradicts another while both are said to be the immutable word of god, but retard cannot understand how that is bad
1 year ago
Anonymous
>one books literally contradicts another while both are said to be the immutable word of god, but retard cannot understand how that is bad
Citation needed
1 year ago
Anonymous
Old Testament: “Show no pity: life shall be for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.” – Deuteronomy 19:21
But Jesus contradicts this directly:
Jesus: “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.” – Matthew 5:38–39
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven.” – Matthew 5:43-48
Old Testament: ‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.” – Leviticus 20:10
Jesus famously ignored this command when they brought the woman caught in adultery to him:
Jesus: “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground….”Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.'” – John 8:3-11
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm sure you are the first person who has ever noticed this. Brilliant job, anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>where's the contradictions? >here are a couple of many >wow brilliant job! i won't address it in any way but wow!
1 year ago
Anonymous
You are right. No one has ever noticed this before and there is no reasonable explanation for it. Great job, anon. You are brilliant.
So they did not kill people in the name of atheism, then. Got it!
They did what they did because they were people without morals.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Christians are some of the most hateful, violent people you will ever meet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Christians are some of the most hateful, violent people you will ever meet.
Which is why the entire world is trying to move to mostly Christian nations.
1 year ago
Anonymous
1 year ago
Anonymous
Lol, that guy turned into a chud.
These are the people snarking at you, calling you "chud" and trying to discredit and cancel you on the internet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You look like this you know?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm sure you are totally a great person and stuff. An example we all should follow.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Burn in hell you fucking gay
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh there is? Explain then. You won't. You're probably not even a christian, you just like getting (you)s.
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://www.catholic.com/search?q=eye%20for%20an%20eye
Great resource. Have fun.
1 year ago
Anonymous
First article's argument is basically that God changed his mind.
Do I even need to explain to you why that's stupid?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Pearls before swine, anon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You are right. No one has ever noticed this before and there is no reasonable explanation for it. Great job, anon. You are brilliant.
This is some next level salt. Just admit your garden gnome religion has nothing to do with the actual creator and that you have been played.
1 year ago
Anonymous
> So a book that contradicts itself several times isn't retarded?
nuance and context bad
>Or a religion that needed a second book to retcon the first book, while simultaneously claiming both are correct?
NOOOO YOU CANT WRITE A SECOND BOOK AFTER YOU ALREADY WROTE ONE!
1 year ago
Anonymous
>IT'S LE NUANCE
Dude just get your dad drunk and let him impregnate you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sounds like that’s what happened to you and explains why you’ve got such an axe to grind with Christianity.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sorry bro. I'm not from the bible belt. Now keep hating people like Jesus said to :^)
1 year ago
Anonymous
>this butthurt about a religion he says is retarded that lives rent free in his mind
Hilarious how atheists are always bitterly angry about a God they claim doesn’t exist. It’s like they want him to exist or something.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But why does it being 2000 years old make it infallibly true?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nobody is saying that it being 2000 old is the reason its infallibly true. Jesus Christ, atheists are the absolute dumbest people on earth.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So what are you saying?
And I'm sorry if I took "the proof is that it's 2000 years old" as you saying that the proof is that it's 2000 years old.
>Tell me, what is the proof you have God's existence/non-existence?
2000 years of Catholic Church. Better than anything else in this world. If you cared you'd know but you decide to hide behind your self-righteousness.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This one proof (a simple one of many more or less simple ones) is that it's alive and has been so continuously as has been promised by Christ.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Look, you could absolutely say that 2000 years of its history reinforces the possibility of God's existence, but declaring it as proof is wrong and you know it.
Proof is something that is utterly infallible.
1 year ago
Anonymous
At this point I feel like you are really into playing word games. Have it your way and enjoy the fruits of your labor.
In what state of mind do you think this constitutes proof? Just prove his existence to an open-minded outsider. All I want is something objectively telling of the existence (or non-existence) of God. >but you decide to hide behind your self-righteousness
What the fuck are you even talking about?
The continuous existence of the Catholic Church is proof in itself.
I won't be able to prove humanity's greatest mystery to you in a couple of paragraphs. If that's what you expect that's entirely your problem.
No argument. I have read the bible, you have not.
[...] >one books literally contradicts another while both are said to be the immutable word of god, but retard cannot understand how that is bad
I'm sure you were entirely qualified to properly interpret the Bible. It's always pride, isn't it?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The continuous existence of the Catholic Church is proof in itself.
No it isn't. >I won't be able to prove humanity's greatest mystery to you
Then why even reply.
I already know it's not provable. That's why I am agnostic. You will never change anyone's mind like this, so why even bother?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Be a coward if that's what you want to be.
Considering I have studied dozens of different religions, yes I am extremely qualified to interpret the Bible. In fact I even know where most of the more ancients passages come from and have read the more unadulterated versions of it, before it was edited hundreds of times.
So I'm way ahead of you, there's no question about it.
More pride. Honestly, have it your way. Don't forget it was your choice though when it's time to face the inevitable.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>yes, i can prove the existence of the creator of the universe, something that has never been done in the entirety of human history by anyone >wow, you're so prideful and boastful, no humility like christ (btw i'm a roman catholic bitch, yes that's right the guys that executed him)
1 year ago
Anonymous
Have it your way.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Considering I have studied dozens of different religions, yes I am extremely qualified to interpret the Bible. In fact I even know where most of the more ancients passages come from and have read the more unadulterated versions of it, before it was edited hundreds of times.
So I'm way ahead of you, there's no question about it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You will never be a Christian, larper
1 year ago
Anonymous
I know, cause I have actually studied Christianism so I know it's fake, like every religion.
Only retards take religious text as literal. It's supposed to guide and entertain you.
>Define what you’ll accept as proof first.
No. That's absolutely not how proof works. Whatever you tell me should be objective and my opinion shouldn't have any bearing on it whatsoever.
>I should be allowed to gatekeep what “proof” means so I can win the argument in perpetuity
>utterly incapable of giving even something resembling an answer
Even just admitting that it's "faith, and u have to find it urself" or some other bullshit would be better than this
Only zoomers are Christcucks on Cinemaphile, don't ever let them pretend like they aren't.
All of us that had to go through the 90's know how much of a poison this shit is.
Of course for them it's easy to take this retarded contrarian position, because they were born from Millenial parents that were probably atheist leftists. So they don't have anyone enforcing their religion on them, they can just turn on the PC and post retarded images of Jesus hugging Wojak and feel this sense of belonging and that's it, their commitment ends at that. There's no one to make them read the Bible (which they have never done), no one to make them go to Church.
You can't argue with these gays, because they don't know life under a Christcucked society.
except you are the one mentally trapped as a child seething about your soccermom parents and being unable to look at the state of the world objectively because of your gay “trauma” and entitlement.
Looking at the state of the world just picking whatever else the normies aren't preaching about is very mature, indeed.
Dumb stupid cunt. >this religion makes no fucking sense and you can track it's historical origins to hebrews just stealing zoroastranism from their persian slavers, but i'll believe in it anyway because the trannies don't like it
have a nice day.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>this religion makes no fucking sense
Strawman
>you can track it's historical origins to hebrews just stealing zoroastranism from their persian slavers
Strawman x2
>but i'll believe in it anyway because the trannies don't like it
Strawman x3
Nice argument lmfao typical atheistcuck
1 year ago
Anonymous
Do you even know what a strawman is, you absolute retard?
Only that third paragraph applies.
Is this the IQ of christcucks?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Uses a strawman argument 3x in one post >Is now trying to gaslight about what constitutes a strawman because he got owned so hard
1 year ago
Anonymous
>had to be a phoneposter
Today we learned that strawman fallacies are things that this illiterate zoomer mutt disagrees with.
Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World. (I read the comics before the film but this isn't /toon/ so i can't bring up the comics). I would absolutely marry Kim Pine in a heartbeat.
He makes so many strawman and red herring arguments in that documentary, it's laughable. He also seems to only interview the craziest of the crazy. And that ending sequence was so cringe. I've never liked him ever. I've always thought he was a pompous hack.
ironically atheists are virtually always the least well read people ive ever encountered, to the point where 99% of them haven't read since they were forced to in school, while most Christians enjoy and write the greatest literature ever produced by man
>sarcastic meme
I dunno Dante and Tolkien and Kierkegaard are pretty good. And if you want to be pedantic, even secular evolved out of the Christian canon which is why modern leftist belongs in the trash.
>Yeah? Have you actually read those or are you just saying that they're a win for your team?
All of them. I'm not a Christian, by the way, or if I am I'm an extremely unorthodox one.
>How many Christians in the US are well read again?
Irrelevant. The US has been turned into a third world shithole by capitalist bankers. The country was a beautiful, enlightened place before it was subverted morally and financially. And in case you've got any more boring arguments in your pocket, most serious Christians hate megachurch Christianity.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The post was claiming that atheists were illiterate and christians well read. I think any cursory knowledge of statistics will show to be a ridiculous statement, bringing up if you read them was relevant since you were that poster or was implying you agreed with what he said.
>Oh yeah! Well...did YOU read them?
Doesn't even matter if he did. You're a retard and he BTFO'd you. Cope.
Yes it matters, retard, it was in the original claim. Typical illiterate christian.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He said Christians produced great literature. You were dismissive and he named 3 titans of literature off of the top of his head. It doesn't matter if he read them edgelord; you were trying to slide because he responded to snark with a valid counterpoint. You're dumb. Simple as.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I was OBVIOUSLY fucking dismissive of the part about christians reading great literature, not writing. It's impossible to quantify the value of all literature written by christians and by not christians, only a retarded nu-christian on Cinemaphile would make that argument.
Stop acting aloof, you grub.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The only thing that was obvious is that you were being a disingenuous pseud. Speaking of such: >It's impossible to quantify the value of all literature written by christians and by not christians
Depends on what you mean by "quantify," you goal-post shifting gay begging for a slide. Do you seriously think straw-manning the notion that Christians have produced great art/literature into the idea that art isn't quantifiable is even a point? Fuck, you're dumb.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Do you seriously think straw-manning the notion that Christians have produced great art/literature into the idea that art isn't quantifiable is even a point?
That was never my point, you fucking 12 IQ mutt.
Go drown in drain cleaner.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You don't have a point, retard. That's why you're trying to strawman shit and slide. Fuck off pseud. Time for bed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Read the bible.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Read the bible.
Night, gay. Have fun screaming into the void.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Read it. You won't.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The post was claiming that atheists were illiterate
I know a lot of Christians who read classic historians and apologists like Lewis and Chesterton at minimum but even if I concede the point, I think 1/10 atheists I've ever known in person has any serious commitment to intellectual pursuits. The one that comes to mind was a turbo autist and no one liked him.
The rest instantly converted to SJW-Christianity, became swingers, or became consooooomers.
The reason I'm defending the other anon's point is because atheist bigotry is annoying and self-righteous.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Christians on Cinemaphile are larping gays that think they'd have power under national socialism (despite Hitler being a theosophist, not a christian).
They deserve all bigotry.
I keep asking for a timestamp of their Bibles when they rear their ugly heads and they never do it. They don't even know about older versions like the Septuagint and how vastly different it is from modern texts.
They're shit at being Christians, so I mock them.
I respect all religious people, as long as they aren't doing it out of spite for being called racists on high school.
The religious believe their delusions and cognitive dissonance will most likely trap them in their fiction worship for their entire lives. It's sad but a little bit funny.
>Atheist superiority complex
It's funny how atheists think this sort of reasoning is compelling. By the way the most staunch atheists will jerk off Darwinian but reject the consequences of Darwinian evolution. They'll never be honest about race or transgenderism for example because their New Religion isn't based on science, it's based on ego and fitting in with the herd.
>Religion is superstition
Religious people study the the reasonableness or unreasonableness of the texts for years, observe others behaviors before/after accepting (presupposing) the religious texts ideas, and so on. And they live happy lives in touch with their family and community when done right. To say it's superstition let alone pure superstition is just strawmanning the lowest common denominator.
>Fiath isn't believing without evidence 4 reals? >Most Christians have evidence yea just not any actual good evidence.
>superiority complex <wants you to worship its fiction variation.
atheists are literally too stupid to comprehend that they are all operating on faith every day too
>too stupid to comprehend <that's great good laugh
You just have to wonder what dick sucking techniques these religious zealots actually get taught at school because it's not even basic logic or reason. Anyway sorry, you're just a automatron for some sand peoples harry potter esque short stories.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>it's not even basic logic or reason >harry potter
Fuck you're retarded.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I must be pretty dumb or empathetic to try and highlight people's stupid reasoning. I guess you can't teach them their moronic blithering stubbornness will always shield their fiction worship.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>No! You can't make fun of people for bringing up Harry Potter! Religion is just about a magic man who lives in the sky!
Do you want to ask me why I don't worship Zeus next you predictable pseud gay? I'm not even religious--I just think you're retarded.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's fake shit, so don't embarrass yourself.
Christianity is lifted from other shit, like Zoroastranism and a shitload from Akkadian, Sumerian and other Mesopotamian myths.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yea totally man, it's all fake and the work of Voldemort.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Fiath isn't believing without evidence 4 reals?
Religious faith isn't about historicity and cosmological arguments, it is about lifestyle and community. This is something no New Atheist critic ever brings up nor are they honest about the blindspots in their own ideology. I know because I've read them.
>superiority complex <wants you to worship its fiction variation.
I'm not a Christian as I stated previously. Darwinists avoid the intellectual and moral consequences of Darwinism. It's pretty funny how flimsy their scientific rationalist framework is when you apply the least amount of pressure to it. The answer, then, is not believing superstitious or insane beliefs, but accepting that you don't know everything and maybe relating to other people with a bit more humanity. Or you could post barely coherent sentences on 4 channel. That's an option too, I guess.
Fiath isn't believing without evidence. Faith is believing in God's actions and choices. It's not believing God itself with zero evidence. Most Christians have evidence. That's why they're Christians. It's about trusting God's plan.
>god is no different than the tooth fairy! >why did society change after the bible? >can you not see how fucking rational and informed I am!
They're in a perpetual state of being an edgy teenager.
My favorite section of the God Delusion was when he said that literature was pretentious because it didn't come out and say what it wanted to say in unambiguous language. Midwit, peasant-tier soul.
How is THAT story hard to interpret/understand? Kafka wrote a lot of stuff he probably didn't attribute any meaning to himself but metamorphosis is pretty on the nose with its themes and obviously deeply rooted in his struggles with his family and especially his father.
Like it's pretty obvious to me at this point that there's some kind of God out there, but I don't think it's the Christian God and don't know why those two theoretical gods are seen as the same thing
Turns out Atheists are dumber than the religious they mock. They spent a decade happily pulling religion down, and now years later regrettably admit they were completely fucking wrong. Even the biggest retards like Richard Dawkins now admit he made a mistake and that religion serves a purpose.
Le atheism ftw amiright guys, spaghetti monster lolol
Fuck off you nihilist cunt
was gonna make some eggs but decided to just go to bed, thanks anon
Imagine claiming to be religious while having this sodomite freak saved to your hard drive.
>concern trolling
Weak.
>b-but the Spanish Inquisition killed up to 5000 people during the 300 years it was a thing
fpbp
meds
Why yes, climate-alarmism is a cult phenomeon.
>"I don't believe in anything but what I can see, facts baby woooo! What is transcendence? Sounds like a big word xd"
Imagine being a millionaire and finding the most desperate and miserable people out in the world who are trying to cope with their suffering through spirituality and mocking them for your vacation documentary, then saying that shit changed your life... lmao
Not OP. It didn’t change my life at all but was very entertaining. I enjoy it when Christians are made uncomfortable. One guy was ok until I reminded him that his kids would die and their life was meaningless. They’re brave in the face of death until you mention their kids. They always told me “dude just wait until you have a kid. When you look at something so beautiful and pure that was made out of love… you’ll believe in god, I promise.” Lol. Lmao
You sound like a cunt, but you're right.
4/10 bait
apply yourself bro
Stop being degenerate nihilists, find God
I hope you’ll repent and trust in Christ, I don’t wanna see you going to hell
>Imagine being a millionaire and finding the most desperate and miserable people out in the world who are trying to cope
yeah they made kenneth COPEland very rich
The way he cuts off the nerdy looking guy lmao
stop copin' and start ropin'
Get saved, /misc/
>Pastor Anderson
This dude went from Hollywood failure after Lost and really turned his life around. A lot of has-been actors amount to nothing but he found God and made a real difference.
When you think about it, Lost has a lot of catholic references.
>Steven Anderson
Did you show this picture thinking that the sanderson1611 guy is the one that looks bad in this?
Yes, moron lover.
Show face.
>Armenian
Lol
>12 results
Why the lies?
As far as I'm aware, this should predate any posts on Cinemaphile.
>Dolj svar
>for 1 ar sedan
yikes
This one should change Bill's forever
he still wears the crown?
Lol
Christian larpers think the suffering is the point, so they hyper fixate and fetishize it.
His glorified body still bears the scars of His most holy passion.
What a fag
Based
Why do you believe in God? What gave you faith? If it was your parents, don't even reply.
I want to know how one finds God on their own. I just can't find anything there that is believable
In terms of why I believe in God, a supernatural creator is a prerequisite of the universe. If all physical things have are an effect with a cause, there must be a root cause not subject to the same laws. Where did matter come from? Why did it start expanding? How did the unlikely miracle of life happen? Without some kind of Creator these problems can't be solved.
In regards to why I believe the words of the Bible, I can't really put it into words. There are too many times in my life where I've read it and it had the perfect bit of wisdom, too many times it provided me with a real sense of something greater, for me to overlook it. I understand if that's not terribly convincing, but faith is a personal thing that you have to feel to understand, I think
That implies human logic is the only way to understand the universe. The fact that we dont know how to answer those question is no excuse to give it a face, an intention and a book.
You explained you don’t know how to answer the question so why should we give a fuck about your opinion on the matter?
You don't know how to answer the question either, genius. Except we don't just make up our own answers based on the imaginary will of our invisible sky daddy. We just accept that we don't know the answer & move on with our lives. Maybe someone will figure it out some day?
>God is a separate entity sitting on a throne and ruling over us
why are atheists so unbelievably fucking retarded?
I personally think that religion does an amazing job filling some kind of an emptiness inside people. It can give your life meaning and a direction when things are going badly otherwise. Religion definitely has its place in modern society still.
You have to actually do shit in your life to engender that sort of perspective. Years ago I would volunteer, meditate, come up with poems and songs and write about what I was grateful for etc. That was me at my most religious although I never adhered to any specific creed. Now I barely go outside and i’m agnostic again
>Why do you believe in God? What gave you faith? If it was your parents, don't even reply.
This is a hilarious strawman that atheists love to use. As if we do ANYTHING because our parents told us to.
Do you people really think the geniuses that believed in God were just uncritically accepting things their whole lives, and they never thought of the points you bring up? Descartes questioned literally everything, his own existence, and still continued to believe. Of course he must have some reasons. You aren't braver or more intelligent than guys like that lol.
Now, you can be skeptical and run the whole gauntlet, which if you can even manage it, is a painful experience that brings you right back to where your parents left you off. Or you can do what most people do about 99% of things, and what is totally reasonable and useful, have faith and move on and be patient that life will reveal more with time. This is the best option for 99% of people. The vast majority of people aren't suited to think deeply about religion and they only end up half considering things, if that, and they get stuck at some point where their intelligence gives out and make that the basis of their beliefs.
The difference is that Descartes didn't believe in Yahweh, the hebrew God. The idiots ITT do.
nta but wasn't descartes thing that he believed int he essense of god and therefore there was a god. seemed kinda dumb to me, like "i think there is a god therefore there is a god".. not really a compelling argument.
Yes, it's the ontological argument for a creator, which is fucking retarded.
He is because he is and that's it.
>believable
Develop the ability to understand abstract thought.
Maher is such a dishonest gay
>"You believe in God?! You're so stupid!"
>"You believe in 78 genders and men can get pregnant?! Well, I respect your opinion on these new ideas and we have to have serious discussions about it."
but he doesn't respect that opinion
Shhhh, let him have his strawman, he NEEDS it.
>but he doesn't respect that opinion
He has literally never gone after these anti-science chud activists the way he went after religious people
he did recently
Not really. All he said is that it was "trendy" and "encouraged" by liberals. He's never said "The idea of a male born athlete declaring himself female and winning all the female gold medals is nonsense." or "Men can't get pregnant, it's biologically impossible!".
Suddenly Mr. "Why don't religious people believe in science?" is suddenly not asking this question to liberal trannies.
So he doesn't talk about this on his show, but on another show? And again he's handling it with such kid gloves. If this was a Christian religion saying "there's this Bible verse that says men and women are the same biologically" he would be screaming about it every show (on his own show).
Maybe something that has been around for a thousand years and reigned over society for much, much longer, deserved his bigger reaction, yeah?
>Maybe something that has been around for a thousand years and reigned over society for much, much longer, deserved his bigger reaction, yeah?
Incorrect. His argument was based in anti-science. "How can religious people be sooooo anti-science?" But when libtards are anti-science he completely ignores the anti-science aspect of it. It's really sad and shows what a pathetic gay Bill Maher is.
His opinions on free speech are even worse
>"Celebrities should stop apologizing to the Twitter mob!"
then
>"I have to apologize, I said the N-word last week and I was wrong. Tonight we have Ice Cube so I can lick his asshole to show my forgiveness."
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These examples don't help your case. He's bringing it up and making light of it. Never once does he say "THIS IS ANTI-SCIENCE", which he said about religious people for decades.
accept bill into your heart
>accept bill into your heart
You sound like a dumb gay. And I will never accept some retard that cries about FREE SPEECH then literally apologizes for a joke the next week.
>I'm glad we live in an age when LGBT can live their lives authentically and openly
Yeah, no, this is nothing like when he comes after religion.
This pro-circumcision garden gnome dares to talk about genital surgery on children
well garden gnomes have a long history of transphboia look at what they did to Hitler
schizo AND an itoddler. what a surprise
>convenient lack of rebuttal
mentally ill individuals like yourself don't deserve that level of respect, only derision.
go ahead, reply with "cope" or whatever other stock rebuttals because you le won in your mind
>cope
>still no rebuttal
what are you even arguing?
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Lol, that guy turned into a chud.
These are the people posting Indian threads daily to feel better about themselves
Imagine being a 60 year old man and still smoking weed everyday while being single and playing with your Legos...
Bill is a failure
>piss babies itt mad at atheism and yet haven't ever opened a bible and have no idea where christianity comes from
the shit about pagan parallels (mithra, etc) to the life of jesus is made up bullshit that some writer pulled out of their ass and everyone ran with. and there isn't a gay gene.
There are plenty of pagan parallels that are very real. Just not most of the ones showed in Zeitgeist.
To catholicism? Yeah sure
To Christianity in general? Not so much no.
Protestants are just western Muslims ie Infidels
The old testament is filled with literary borrowing from Mediterranean and Middle Eastern myths.
You think a collection of books written in the middle east would include middle eastern myths?
Anyways name 5
Lamias.
The garden of Eden.
Djinns.
The qippoz.
Diluvian epic.
The idea that Helion is the one god and he has a bunch of children who are gods of different people, like Yahweh being the god of the people of Jacob (garden gnomes). Yes, ancient Christianity was politheistic.
The ten commandments.
The book of Isaiah.
>In the earliest stories, Lamia was a beautiful queen of Libya who had an affair with Zeus. Upon learning this, Zeus's wife Hera robbed Lamia of her children, the offspring of her affair with Zeus, either by kidnapping or by killing them
Okay and this has paralells to what old testament story?
The Lilitu, which became the Lilith, Adam's first wife in non-canonical lore.
In the original scriptures the lamia, or the lilitu, are one of the desert demons. Before the Bible was edited to be moved away from their more mystical origins there were a lot of supernatural creatures described.
Dude... just stop this got more absurd than the Zeitgeist BS in record time.
That's just embarrassing for you, buddy.
Isaiah 34
Her nobles shall be no more, nor shall kings be proclaimed there; all her princes are gone. (13) Her castles shall be overgrown with thorns, her fortresses with thistles and briers. She shall become an abode for jackals and a haunt for ostriches. (14) Wildcats shall meet with desert beasts, satyrs shall call to one another; There shall the Lilith repose, and find for herself a place to rest. (15) There the hoot owl shall nest and lay eggs, hatch them out and gather them in her shadow; There shall the kites assemble, none shall be missing its mate. (16) Look in the book of the LORD and read: No one of these shall be lacking, For the mouth of the LORD has ordered it, and His spirit shall gather them there. (17) It is He who casts the lot for them, and with His hands He marks off their shares of her; They shall possess her forever, and dwell there from generation to generation.
It's getting worse
Nta but can you explain using your own knowledge of the Bible and the context it was made it, why is what anon is saying crazy? I honestly don't know
he claims that the bible was "edited" because he thinks it will somehow undo the fact that a man came back from the dead
Literally quoting the Bible is about as worse as it gets, wouldn't you say?
Bill Maher is controlled opposition establishment shill whos only job is to reel in leftists who go too far left
Yeah, because the establishment isn't totally in favor of extreme far leftism, fucking stupid retard.
The establishment needs leftism to look appealing to the masses for people to buy in. Bill Maher is the guy who steers the far left dialogue back to normies.
Learn to understand nuance you fucking caveman brain. Also, get fucked.
Bill Maher is largely irrelevant now, where extreme leftists are extremely popular with huge platforms.
When Sam Harris and Bill Maher said that Islam was extreme and misogynistic Ben Affleck threw a hissy fit saying it was gross and phobic and the left sided with him.
The Establishment has demonstrably endorsed Antifa and BLM, rioting and lynching.
There is no such thing as appeal to normies, they don't have to. If you don't agree with their extremism you're instantly destroyed and shut down, normies that full well.
>Bill Maher is largely irrelevant now
He’s still a huge name on twitter and his job is what I stated. Whether or not that serves any purpose for the establishment or not anymore, is debatable.
>establishment wants the super far left to win
>that’s why they kneecap Bernie
Lol
Shut the fuck up degenerate fagvot
I feel like suicide/depression is just a symptom of intelligence. I mean, look at rates grouped by race.
It's spiritual illness, mainly.
Isn't there a book based on that? Depression through gained intelligence? Flowers for Algernon?
Being smarter means being more aware of how much else you don't know and how fucked the world is.
>cannot even type correctly
ouch
>Religious people: *quietly and respectfully* we think you should follow Christ to save yourself and live a better life. If you don't I wish you the best and hope you change your mind.
>2000s New Atheist people: Nutjobs! Cultists! HAHA! Idiots! It doesn't make sense! Zombie Carpenter! Remember those conflicts hundreds of years ago? That's your fault!
Bro don’t forget. Religion has caused so many wars!*
*establishment shills like Bill Maher and most atheists conveniently leave out that atheist dictators killed 150m people.
>atheist dictators killed 150m people
In the name of atheism?
>Atheist dictators killed 150m people but because they didnt explicitly say “I’m doing this for atheism!” that gives them the moral high ground over Christians
Yes, because atheism is not a religion. It's the default state.
That's like saying "all dictators that have ever lived were males, so I guess that means they were causing genocides in the name of masculinity"
That's so fucking stupid.
Being born male isn’t a choice like Atheism is. And Atheists are more likely to be mass murderers than Christians. And Atheist dictators killed 150m people.
Everyone is born atheist and some children get groomed into your cult.
So they did not kill people in the name of atheism, then. Got it!
How many millions of people have Christian presidents killed?
people: *quietly and respectfully* we think you should follow Christ to save yourself and live a better life. If you don't I wish you the best and hope you change your mind.
lol
lmao
sorry but god does hate fags
>*quietly and respectfully*
I don't like this movie. Most of the guys Bill Maher pokes fun at in this movie are just people trying to worship in peace. There's a lot to criticize and poke fun of about religious bureaucracy and how religion invades American politics, but it feels like Maher punches down when he makes fun of that one trucker church or the jesus actor.
>t. seething religion shills
Lol
Lmao
google says he's the richest pastor
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I'm an atheist but I really came to hate Bill Maher because of this movie (never heard of him before that). He's so smug that I just want to punch him.
This but unironically. I was raised christcucked and thought atheism was all about the big bang and shit, this film made me realise its about how it makes no sense to be in some weird trauma bond with a guy who may or may not have lived in a desert 2000 years ago.
Take the agnosticism pill. Religitards and gaytheists are equally stupid.
To have total belief in one thing or the other implies you have enough knowledge to form a certainty, which neither groups have.
Nothing to do with our universe's conception is certain.
Pretty much all atheists are actually agnostics and all the zoomer christcuck tourists would call an agnostic an atheist.
It makes no difference.
>I was raised christian
Same but my boomer parents did a terrible job explaining things and even went against Church teaching. Came back to the Church some time ago. If you turned away chances are you were never properly catechised.
>just be a coward and do whatever, bro
Worst move one can make. Being lukewarm is cringe.
>ur a coward
What the fuck are you talking about?
Tell me, what is the proof you have God's existence/non-existence?
You have none. And if you can't prove it, why would you select a belief?
Notice none of the names you called me were reasonable arguments against my point.
>Tell me, what is the proof you have God's existence/non-existence?
2000 years of Catholic Church. Better than anything else in this world. If you cared you'd know but you decide to hide behind your self-righteousness.
Man thinking he can deduce the existence of God through endless ruminations is a special kind of hubris
You're the one showcasing hubris.
>man can’t deduce the existence of god because i arbitrarily decided that they cant on Cinemaphile
The Greeks almost got there. That + revelation and boom.
That's funny cause hinduism is over double that age, but you don't believe in that.
I wonder why that is.
Hinduism is retarded on its face, just for reasons of rationality. Then again, I'm not talking about "Christianity", I'm explicitly talking about Christ's one true Church.
So a book that contradicts itself several times isn't retarded?
Or a religion that needed a second book to retcon the first book, while simultaneously claiming both are correct?
Are you just pretending to be ignorant? Is it one of those cases? If so, you are a garbage person. If not, stop talking about things you know nothing about.
No argument. I have read the bible, you have not.
>one books literally contradicts another while both are said to be the immutable word of god, but retard cannot understand how that is bad
>one books literally contradicts another while both are said to be the immutable word of god, but retard cannot understand how that is bad
Citation needed
Old Testament: “Show no pity: life shall be for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.” – Deuteronomy 19:21
But Jesus contradicts this directly:
Jesus: “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.” – Matthew 5:38–39
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven.” – Matthew 5:43-48
Old Testament: ‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.” – Leviticus 20:10
Jesus famously ignored this command when they brought the woman caught in adultery to him:
Jesus: “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground….”Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.'” – John 8:3-11
I'm sure you are the first person who has ever noticed this. Brilliant job, anon.
>where's the contradictions?
>here are a couple of many
>wow brilliant job! i won't address it in any way but wow!
You are right. No one has ever noticed this before and there is no reasonable explanation for it. Great job, anon. You are brilliant.
They did what they did because they were people without morals.
Christians are some of the most hateful, violent people you will ever meet.
>Christians are some of the most hateful, violent people you will ever meet.
Which is why the entire world is trying to move to mostly Christian nations.
These are the people snarking at you, calling you "chud" and trying to discredit and cancel you on the internet.
You look like this you know?
I'm sure you are totally a great person and stuff. An example we all should follow.
Burn in hell you fucking gay
Oh there is? Explain then. You won't. You're probably not even a christian, you just like getting (you)s.
https://www.catholic.com/search?q=eye%20for%20an%20eye
Great resource. Have fun.
First article's argument is basically that God changed his mind.
Do I even need to explain to you why that's stupid?
Pearls before swine, anon.
>You are right. No one has ever noticed this before and there is no reasonable explanation for it. Great job, anon. You are brilliant.
This is some next level salt. Just admit your garden gnome religion has nothing to do with the actual creator and that you have been played.
> So a book that contradicts itself several times isn't retarded?
nuance and context bad
>Or a religion that needed a second book to retcon the first book, while simultaneously claiming both are correct?
NOOOO YOU CANT WRITE A SECOND BOOK AFTER YOU ALREADY WROTE ONE!
>IT'S LE NUANCE
Dude just get your dad drunk and let him impregnate you.
Sounds like that’s what happened to you and explains why you’ve got such an axe to grind with Christianity.
Sorry bro. I'm not from the bible belt. Now keep hating people like Jesus said to :^)
>this butthurt about a religion he says is retarded that lives rent free in his mind
Hilarious how atheists are always bitterly angry about a God they claim doesn’t exist. It’s like they want him to exist or something.
But why does it being 2000 years old make it infallibly true?
Nobody is saying that it being 2000 old is the reason its infallibly true. Jesus Christ, atheists are the absolute dumbest people on earth.
So what are you saying?
And I'm sorry if I took "the proof is that it's 2000 years old" as you saying that the proof is that it's 2000 years old.
This one proof (a simple one of many more or less simple ones) is that it's alive and has been so continuously as has been promised by Christ.
Look, you could absolutely say that 2000 years of its history reinforces the possibility of God's existence, but declaring it as proof is wrong and you know it.
Proof is something that is utterly infallible.
At this point I feel like you are really into playing word games. Have it your way and enjoy the fruits of your labor.
In what state of mind do you think this constitutes proof? Just prove his existence to an open-minded outsider. All I want is something objectively telling of the existence (or non-existence) of God.
>but you decide to hide behind your self-righteousness
What the fuck are you even talking about?
The continuous existence of the Catholic Church is proof in itself.
I won't be able to prove humanity's greatest mystery to you in a couple of paragraphs. If that's what you expect that's entirely your problem.
I'm sure you were entirely qualified to properly interpret the Bible. It's always pride, isn't it?
>The continuous existence of the Catholic Church is proof in itself.
No it isn't.
>I won't be able to prove humanity's greatest mystery to you
Then why even reply.
I already know it's not provable. That's why I am agnostic. You will never change anyone's mind like this, so why even bother?
Be a coward if that's what you want to be.
More pride. Honestly, have it your way. Don't forget it was your choice though when it's time to face the inevitable.
>yes, i can prove the existence of the creator of the universe, something that has never been done in the entirety of human history by anyone
>wow, you're so prideful and boastful, no humility like christ (btw i'm a roman catholic bitch, yes that's right the guys that executed him)
Have it your way.
Considering I have studied dozens of different religions, yes I am extremely qualified to interpret the Bible. In fact I even know where most of the more ancients passages come from and have read the more unadulterated versions of it, before it was edited hundreds of times.
So I'm way ahead of you, there's no question about it.
You will never be a Christian, larper
I know, cause I have actually studied Christianism so I know it's fake, like every religion.
Only retards take religious text as literal. It's supposed to guide and entertain you.
Define what you’ll accept as proof first. But you’ll be a cuck and shift the goalposts whenever you get proven wrong.
>Define what you’ll accept as proof first.
No. That's absolutely not how proof works. Whatever you tell me should be objective and my opinion shouldn't have any bearing on it whatsoever.
You are so dumb, it's not even funny.
>utterly incapable of giving even something resembling an answer
Even just admitting that it's "faith, and u have to find it urself" or some other bullshit would be better than this
>I should be allowed to gatekeep what “proof” means so I can win the argument in perpetuity
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T OPT OUT AND JUST NOT PLAY THE GAME, YOU HAVE TO PICK SIDES BECAUSE....BECAUSE YOU JUST DO OKAY!??!?!?
Pick good or pick evil. Life or death, heaven or hell. There's no getting out of it.
>trauma bonded to a guy who lived 2000 years ago
Yeah, you’re now trauma bonded to exactly what the establishment want you to believe. Have fun.
Only zoomers are Christcucks on Cinemaphile, don't ever let them pretend like they aren't.
All of us that had to go through the 90's know how much of a poison this shit is.
Of course for them it's easy to take this retarded contrarian position, because they were born from Millenial parents that were probably atheist leftists. So they don't have anyone enforcing their religion on them, they can just turn on the PC and post retarded images of Jesus hugging Wojak and feel this sense of belonging and that's it, their commitment ends at that. There's no one to make them read the Bible (which they have never done), no one to make them go to Church.
You can't argue with these gays, because they don't know life under a Christcucked society.
>Christianity is a poison because they called my violent video games bad
Seethe more you fucking bitch lmao
Go back to re**it or t*kt*k.
This isn't your site, disgusting tourist with your disgusting haircut.
except you are the one mentally trapped as a child seething about your soccermom parents and being unable to look at the state of the world objectively because of your gay “trauma” and entitlement.
Looking at the state of the world just picking whatever else the normies aren't preaching about is very mature, indeed.
Dumb stupid cunt.
>this religion makes no fucking sense and you can track it's historical origins to hebrews just stealing zoroastranism from their persian slavers, but i'll believe in it anyway because the trannies don't like it
have a nice day.
>this religion makes no fucking sense
Strawman
>you can track it's historical origins to hebrews just stealing zoroastranism from their persian slavers
Strawman x2
>but i'll believe in it anyway because the trannies don't like it
Strawman x3
Nice argument lmfao typical atheistcuck
Do you even know what a strawman is, you absolute retard?
Only that third paragraph applies.
Is this the IQ of christcucks?
>Uses a strawman argument 3x in one post
>Is now trying to gaslight about what constitutes a strawman because he got owned so hard
>had to be a phoneposter
Today we learned that strawman fallacies are things that this illiterate zoomer mutt disagrees with.
>they don’t know life under a stable conservative society that didn’t have trannies taught about in schools
yeah that’s probably why bro
>You can't argue with these gays, because they don't know life under a Christcucked society.
I would unironically prefer them to what we have now.
All I remember is lefty media trying to paint George W Bush as some kind of Christian taliban leader and crying about abortions.
If you actually drank that kool-aid then you probably don't see anything wrong with society today either.
Advanced rationalization.
Cope. Live your empty, meaningless life if you so wish.
>Do what old book say.
lol fuck off.
kek
Wow you should really do what old book say because man wear funny clothes.
>rules bad
Yeah there's a reason we don't use biblical laws now because it dictates you murder your own children for disobedience.
believing in god is the ultimate cope
Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World. (I read the comics before the film but this isn't /toon/ so i can't bring up the comics). I would absolutely marry Kim Pine in a heartbeat.
I really enjoyed the synagogue segment and the part that focuses on the grizzly process of circumcision
kosher atheism for shabbois goy ignoring gnomish racism
How come the code that your sect follows gets you to heaven, but theirs gets you to hell/purgatory?
AMERICA NEEDS GUN CONTROL
TRUMP LOST
He makes so many strawman and red herring arguments in that documentary, it's laughable. He also seems to only interview the craziest of the crazy. And that ending sequence was so cringe. I've never liked him ever. I've always thought he was a pompous hack.
Most of his comedy shtick is shock and pseudo-intellectualism.
Internet atheists are more cringe than Christians and they're usually pretty dumb. Also, Real Time is midwit core.
are you religious?
No, but I recognize the concept of satanic pride as meaningful and know half-baked Scientism when I see it.
>tfw you're a based agnostic
Sounds like Sloth to me.
I don't think confusing relaxation for laziness is what the lord wants for you, take a vacation
>concern trolling
Oh it was bait
;^)
>religious
for me its MORBIUS
Honestly compared to what we have today, cringy Reddit atheists seem somewhat harmless
I still cringe about going to see this with my friends in high school
Always the poor Christians, the low-hanging fruit. Who is man enough to go after Brahman or the Tao?
Anyone here see Secret Sunshine?
no
He was never able to top this kino.
yeah it's a great film
>garden gnomes talking shit about religions
>they remain gnomish
hmmmm
Religion propagates in ignorance and fear.
ironically atheists are virtually always the least well read people ive ever encountered, to the point where 99% of them haven't read since they were forced to in school, while most Christians enjoy and write the greatest literature ever produced by man
>while most Christians enjoy and write the greatest literature ever produced by man
>sarcastic meme
I dunno Dante and Tolkien and Kierkegaard are pretty good. And if you want to be pedantic, even secular evolved out of the Christian canon which is why modern leftist belongs in the trash.
Tolstoy, Dost, O'Connor... that anon probably doesn't read--this is /misc/
Yeah? Have you actually read those or are you just saying that they're a win for your team?
How many Christians in the US are well read again?
>Yeah? Have you actually read those or are you just saying that they're a win for your team?
All of them. I'm not a Christian, by the way, or if I am I'm an extremely unorthodox one.
>How many Christians in the US are well read again?
Irrelevant. The US has been turned into a third world shithole by capitalist bankers. The country was a beautiful, enlightened place before it was subverted morally and financially. And in case you've got any more boring arguments in your pocket, most serious Christians hate megachurch Christianity.
The post was claiming that atheists were illiterate and christians well read. I think any cursory knowledge of statistics will show to be a ridiculous statement, bringing up if you read them was relevant since you were that poster or was implying you agreed with what he said.
Yes it matters, retard, it was in the original claim. Typical illiterate christian.
He said Christians produced great literature. You were dismissive and he named 3 titans of literature off of the top of his head. It doesn't matter if he read them edgelord; you were trying to slide because he responded to snark with a valid counterpoint. You're dumb. Simple as.
I was OBVIOUSLY fucking dismissive of the part about christians reading great literature, not writing. It's impossible to quantify the value of all literature written by christians and by not christians, only a retarded nu-christian on Cinemaphile would make that argument.
Stop acting aloof, you grub.
The only thing that was obvious is that you were being a disingenuous pseud. Speaking of such:
>It's impossible to quantify the value of all literature written by christians and by not christians
Depends on what you mean by "quantify," you goal-post shifting gay begging for a slide. Do you seriously think straw-manning the notion that Christians have produced great art/literature into the idea that art isn't quantifiable is even a point? Fuck, you're dumb.
>Do you seriously think straw-manning the notion that Christians have produced great art/literature into the idea that art isn't quantifiable is even a point?
That was never my point, you fucking 12 IQ mutt.
Go drown in drain cleaner.
You don't have a point, retard. That's why you're trying to strawman shit and slide. Fuck off pseud. Time for bed.
Read the bible.
>Read the bible.
Night, gay. Have fun screaming into the void.
Read it. You won't.
>The post was claiming that atheists were illiterate
I know a lot of Christians who read classic historians and apologists like Lewis and Chesterton at minimum but even if I concede the point, I think 1/10 atheists I've ever known in person has any serious commitment to intellectual pursuits. The one that comes to mind was a turbo autist and no one liked him.
The rest instantly converted to SJW-Christianity, became swingers, or became consooooomers.
The reason I'm defending the other anon's point is because atheist bigotry is annoying and self-righteous.
Christians on Cinemaphile are larping gays that think they'd have power under national socialism (despite Hitler being a theosophist, not a christian).
They deserve all bigotry.
I keep asking for a timestamp of their Bibles when they rear their ugly heads and they never do it. They don't even know about older versions like the Septuagint and how vastly different it is from modern texts.
They're shit at being Christians, so I mock them.
I respect all religious people, as long as they aren't doing it out of spite for being called racists on high school.
>Oh yeah! Well...did YOU read them?
Doesn't even matter if he did. You're a retard and he BTFO'd you. Cope.
The religious believe their delusions and cognitive dissonance will most likely trap them in their fiction worship for their entire lives. It's sad but a little bit funny.
>Atheist superiority complex
It's funny how atheists think this sort of reasoning is compelling. By the way the most staunch atheists will jerk off Darwinian but reject the consequences of Darwinian evolution. They'll never be honest about race or transgenderism for example because their New Religion isn't based on science, it's based on ego and fitting in with the herd.
>Religion is superstition
Religious people study the the reasonableness or unreasonableness of the texts for years, observe others behaviors before/after accepting (presupposing) the religious texts ideas, and so on. And they live happy lives in touch with their family and community when done right. To say it's superstition let alone pure superstition is just strawmanning the lowest common denominator.
>Fiath isn't believing without evidence 4 reals?
>Most Christians have evidence yea just not any actual good evidence.
>superiority complex <wants you to worship its fiction variation.
>too stupid to comprehend <that's great good laugh
You just have to wonder what dick sucking techniques these religious zealots actually get taught at school because it's not even basic logic or reason. Anyway sorry, you're just a automatron for some sand peoples harry potter esque short stories.
>it's not even basic logic or reason
>harry potter
Fuck you're retarded.
I must be pretty dumb or empathetic to try and highlight people's stupid reasoning. I guess you can't teach them their moronic blithering stubbornness will always shield their fiction worship.
>No! You can't make fun of people for bringing up Harry Potter! Religion is just about a magic man who lives in the sky!
Do you want to ask me why I don't worship Zeus next you predictable pseud gay? I'm not even religious--I just think you're retarded.
That's fake shit, so don't embarrass yourself.
Christianity is lifted from other shit, like Zoroastranism and a shitload from Akkadian, Sumerian and other Mesopotamian myths.
yea totally man, it's all fake and the work of Voldemort.
>Fiath isn't believing without evidence 4 reals?
Religious faith isn't about historicity and cosmological arguments, it is about lifestyle and community. This is something no New Atheist critic ever brings up nor are they honest about the blindspots in their own ideology. I know because I've read them.
>superiority complex <wants you to worship its fiction variation.
I'm not a Christian as I stated previously. Darwinists avoid the intellectual and moral consequences of Darwinism. It's pretty funny how flimsy their scientific rationalist framework is when you apply the least amount of pressure to it. The answer, then, is not believing superstitious or insane beliefs, but accepting that you don't know everything and maybe relating to other people with a bit more humanity. Or you could post barely coherent sentences on 4 channel. That's an option too, I guess.
Fiath isn't believing without evidence. Faith is believing in God's actions and choices. It's not believing God itself with zero evidence. Most Christians have evidence. That's why they're Christians. It's about trusting God's plan.
atheists are literally too stupid to comprehend that they are all operating on faith every day too
>god is no different than the tooth fairy!
>why did society change after the bible?
>can you not see how fucking rational and informed I am!
They're in a perpetual state of being an edgy teenager.
66 books of the bible > harry potter and whatever trash oprah is telling you to blieve
call me a pleb but no film has touched me like this movie. everything else feels so bland after watching it. it's the perfect movie.
for me its dawkins
He really is an idiot.
What is SF? Sorry not registering.
My favorite section of the God Delusion was when he said that literature was pretentious because it didn't come out and say what it wanted to say in unambiguous language. Midwit, peasant-tier soul.
I assume its Science Fiction
How is THAT story hard to interpret/understand? Kafka wrote a lot of stuff he probably didn't attribute any meaning to himself but metamorphosis is pretty on the nose with its themes and obviously deeply rooted in his struggles with his family and especially his father.
did it make you realise how much of an obnoxious gay bill maher is
OP here, yes, and it made me and anti-semite
>faces the pitiful religious
>destroys their weak/nonexistent arguments and claims
It's not even a challenge anymore. It's a massacre.
This guy is such a supreme unlikeable gay
Always a good giggle listening to the fiction worshippers.
your meds trash
Like it's pretty obvious to me at this point that there's some kind of God out there, but I don't think it's the Christian God and don't know why those two theoretical gods are seen as the same thing
wow an hour and a half of nothing
keep up the great work
>from the director of borat
hard pass
Evolution isn’t real
>incoming "mendelian inheritance IS evolution" cope
After this film I became black
Turns out Atheists are dumber than the religious they mock. They spent a decade happily pulling religion down, and now years later regrettably admit they were completely fucking wrong. Even the biggest retards like Richard Dawkins now admit he made a mistake and that religion serves a purpose.