I read the book a few weeks ago and was hyped to watch the movie
I was distraught at how much they deviated from the original story, which didn't need the changes
Bluth was a great animator with a unique creative vision but his directed feature films aren’t simply mediocre- they’re all over the place. He went from stuff as great as Land Before Time and Nimh to dumpster films like Troll Central Park and Rock A Doodle with all kinds of varying quality in between the two extremes. Can’t think of another animator with such high highs and low lows.
I love Rock A Doodle. It's a fricking terrible mess but it's really entertaining because of it. Troll in Central Park is the opposite end, it's boring and bad to watch.
For a story, no. For a childrens animated movie, it would have been a hard sell to have the story suddenly stop halfway through for a history lesson on the rats and why they want nothing to do with humanity and civilization as we know it. I was more butthurt the second movie didn't even attempt to follow the second book at all. It wasn't as good as the first book, but it wasn't horrid trash like the second movie either.
At least we can rest easy knowing the third book will never get adapted.
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Secret of NIMH is absolutely not mediocre, and most of if Don Bluth's work is not mediocre. yeah you can point out troll in central park being mediocre, i'm not going to argue, but don bluth films were quality and there's nothing you can say that will make me change my mind
NIMH needed no drastic change, there's absolutely no reason to give the rats magic or change the climax from the exterminator flushing the rats out to the attempted coup during Mrs Frisby's move other than "we want a cool sword fight at the end"
I will admit having the complete rats' backstory as a segment would be jarring, but I think they could've gotten away with having it be as short as it was in the film and still have the movie follow the book's plot. Just give a bit more screentime to the Dr and you're good to go
Don Bluth’s whole filmography is mediocre, but some of it is much more tolerable than others.
Secret of NIMH is absolutely not mediocre, and most of if Don Bluth's work is not mediocre. yeah you can point out troll in central park being mediocre, i'm not going to argue, but don bluth films were quality and there's nothing you can say that will make me change my mind
>Aristocats >Oliver and Company >Garfield (Bill Murray ones and the new one) >pic related
Must every film starring an orange cat receive the Curse of Mid?
This is completely how I feel about Oliver and Company.
I don't understand how there are people who actually hate this movie. It's a mess and it's not that great but it's fun and short.
>Aristocats >Oliver and Company >Garfield (Bill Murray ones and the new one) >pic related
Must every film starring an orange cat receive the Curse of Mid?
The Great Mouse Detective was always one of my favorite Disney movies growing up, but people neglect it because it's not a musical and it came out during their "dark age"
>was gonna be a live action movie >stuck in limbo for a couple of years >was then gonna be a live action tv series >more development purgatory >fox remembers they have an animation department >make them make it into an animated movie >don bluth later gets hired to salvage the mess the animation studio made and actually release it
>"Ehh no. Sorry anon buddy pal but you know the rules of the streets, down the hatch you go!" >(gulp) >"Man...you were a tough fat guy to swallow anon, yo you just simmer in my belly for a while little buddy and i'll see ya on yo way out my butt""
no. It's a mess practically from the beginning. things "happens", and the sense of scale and time feels like a stage play. the villain is so weak it makes Magnifico looks like a threat, and all he can do is send puff balls to mildly annoy fat crippled people.
Fair enough, I didn't see it so I can't speak to its quality.
I just think around the mid 2000s everyone became deathly afraid of "being cringe" so now there's barely any mediocrity that comes from a place of sincerity. When I think "modern mediocre" I think of mid Marvel movies that are just kinda boring and soulless.
It’s been said a hundred thousand times on every board but there truly was a deep and evil shift in everything during the start of the 2010s that was strong enough that even most normalgays recognize it when pointed out
shame they never got to make the sequel or tv show they wanted to do since it sounded like they really understood the setting after the movie to improve on the film's world
I read the book a few weeks ago and was hyped to watch the movie
I was distraught at how much they deviated from the original story, which didn't need the changes
Don Bluth’s whole filmography is mediocre, but some of it is much more tolerable than others.
Bluth was a great animator with a unique creative vision but his directed feature films aren’t simply mediocre- they’re all over the place. He went from stuff as great as Land Before Time and Nimh to dumpster films like Troll Central Park and Rock A Doodle with all kinds of varying quality in between the two extremes. Can’t think of another animator with such high highs and low lows.
I love Rock A Doodle. It's a fricking terrible mess but it's really entertaining because of it. Troll in Central Park is the opposite end, it's boring and bad to watch.
pretty sure rock a doodle is one of those films where the concept was much better than the final product
I think there was some legal reasons they had to change shit like even her named changed from frisby to brisby because of it
For a story, no. For a childrens animated movie, it would have been a hard sell to have the story suddenly stop halfway through for a history lesson on the rats and why they want nothing to do with humanity and civilization as we know it. I was more butthurt the second movie didn't even attempt to follow the second book at all. It wasn't as good as the first book, but it wasn't horrid trash like the second movie either.
At least we can rest easy knowing the third book will never get adapted.
moronic. the excellence of this movie is not predicated on how closely it follows the book.
aristocats is absolutely mediocre. possibly even generous to call it so.
massive stretch to call this movie anything but terrible.
NIMH needed no drastic change, there's absolutely no reason to give the rats magic or change the climax from the exterminator flushing the rats out to the attempted coup during Mrs Frisby's move other than "we want a cool sword fight at the end"
I will admit having the complete rats' backstory as a segment would be jarring, but I think they could've gotten away with having it be as short as it was in the film and still have the movie follow the book's plot. Just give a bit more screentime to the Dr and you're good to go
Secret of NIMH is absolutely not mediocre, and most of if Don Bluth's work is not mediocre. yeah you can point out troll in central park being mediocre, i'm not going to argue, but don bluth films were quality and there's nothing you can say that will make me change my mind
https://filmschoolrejects.com/the-melancholy-of-don-bluth-1be72847b858/
These are not mid
Was she a bawd in the book too?
>I was distraught at how much they deviated from the original story
Yeah that lecture on prairie dogs was fricking riveting.
This is completely how I feel about Oliver and Company.
I don't understand how there are people who actually hate this movie. It's a mess and it's not that great but it's fun and short.
These people have no soul
>Aristocats
>Oliver and Company
>Garfield (Bill Murray ones and the new one)
>pic related
Must every film starring an orange cat receive the Curse of Mid?
Because they are the Florida man of cats
>Aristocats
>mid
you shut your prostitute mouth sissyboy
Aristocats and Robin Hood are peak comfy
Robin Hood is much better than Aristocats.
How so
sexy fox man?
Aristocats is even worse than oliver and company, it's just 101 dalmatians but unremarkable
You're right, it's not mid, it's shit.
The Great Mouse Detective was always one of my favorite Disney movies growing up, but people neglect it because it's not a musical and it came out during their "dark age"
Titan A.E. is my favorite animated film but it has serious problems.
>was gonna be a live action movie
>stuck in limbo for a couple of years
>was then gonna be a live action tv series
>more development purgatory
>fox remembers they have an animation department
>make them make it into an animated movie
>don bluth later gets hired to salvage the mess the animation studio made and actually release it
>"Ehh no. Sorry anon buddy pal but you know the rules of the streets, down the hatch you go!"
>(gulp)
>"Man...you were a tough fat guy to swallow anon, yo you just simmer in my belly for a while little buddy and i'll see ya on yo way out my butt""
This is why people hate furries and assume people who like animal characters are degenerates. Sincerely: frick you and go frick yourself.
Not Another Dinosaur Movie!
spooky
The best mediocre movie ever.
Love the bbw in that movie
Without him there would never be the little mermaid
Isn't this a very decent movie up until the third act where it falls apart? Or am I mistaking it for another dark fantasy film
no. It's a mess practically from the beginning. things "happens", and the sense of scale and time feels like a stage play. the villain is so weak it makes Magnifico looks like a threat, and all he can do is send puff balls to mildly annoy fat crippled people.
That critically acclaimed Disney movie that no one remembers and even modern Disney won’t acknowledge it.
everything itt still has more soul than 90% of the western slop thats came out in the past 15 years.
I thought that was the point of this thread, mediocre KINO. Not just mediocrity.
Nothing has been soulfully mediocre in about 20 years. I grew up in the 2000s and it feels like all of the good mediocre slop stopped around 2006.
You are not going to like the answer I'm going to give you:
Wonder Woman 1984
Fair enough, I didn't see it so I can't speak to its quality.
I just think around the mid 2000s everyone became deathly afraid of "being cringe" so now there's barely any mediocrity that comes from a place of sincerity. When I think "modern mediocre" I think of mid Marvel movies that are just kinda boring and soulless.
lots of sincere cringe in anime still.
nta but i found it boring. kind of a mess and not in a good way. i wanted aquaman 2 to be good but it ended up equally as bad and forgettable.
It’s been said a hundred thousand times on every board but there truly was a deep and evil shift in everything during the start of the 2010s that was strong enough that even most normalgays recognize it when pointed out
shame they never got to make the sequel or tv show they wanted to do since it sounded like they really understood the setting after the movie to improve on the film's world
The live action segments are terrible and the pacing is poor but I like the animation and characters.
I want to frick that spider
>the centipede gets a goth gf before me
>Kami no sadame ni sae...
The artist behind this went to work on Lackadaisy
Fitting.
this is the best straight to dvd disney sequel
That's not Simba's Pride.
Why Should I Worry is an absolute certified banger
The super Mario movie.
Which is it?
I think I'm the only guy with a guilty pleasure for picrel.
one of my alltime faves, full soundtrack release never ever
>The beauty
>The beast
>The beat
Kino tagline
the second Fritz the Cat movie is SO much worse than the first one but I still enjoy some parts of it.