That wasn't the point of the movie. The point was Jesus was an alien, of an enlightened creator race that wanted their children to also be enlightened.
Ridley is such an idiot.
If Jesus is an alien that would mean nothing he said would have made sense, he was patrilineally descended from Abraham who was a human.
Every time I make that argument in the comic, the atheist just ignores it but still tries to cope into morality or meaning for some reason. I've only met one consistent atheist and it was the saddest encounter I've had so far.
https://i.imgur.com/2B07ZWy.jpg
ITT:
Movies christcuck don't get.
Christians understand this film more than normies. It pushes the moronic theories of panspermia and evolution because normies love that shit and the director is a Satanic boomer obsessed with androids.
your Christian morality is made up all the same, you just cope and believe it isn't. Yes, my morality is made up from thin air, the exact same way yours is. And I don't rape, murder, or steal, I've never even swore.
This board is full of pajeets n shit, there's too many uneducated idiots for there to be a successful thread that's positive towards atheism
Theists are incapable of not being narcissists, because any animal that goes around thinking they have any idea over something that could create the entire universe is a delusional, selfish, lazy moron.
>I am le animal >but everyone besides me is a narcissist >and that is le bad >except I don't believe in le bad >I am very smart 🙂
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Kek, I feel sorry for you. Ignorance is bliss.
So you admit I am not ignorant? Otherwise why feel sorry for someone you think has bliss?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Again, you don't understand the topic and are saying contradictory things. I feel bad for your inability to escape your ignorance due to your low IQ. However it must be bliss for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
it must be a hard life thinking all morality comes from a book you're too dyslexic to read
yeah those spartans throwing babies off of cliffs were so heckin common sense nice and polite. same as those romans anally raping children. wholesome
2 years ago
Anonymous
those romans were christian
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tiberius wasn’t a christian. Why even reply when you clearly don’t know what you are talking about?
2 years ago
Anonymous
who said tiberius?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Famous roman infant buggerer
2 years ago
Anonymous
Suetonius wrote that Tiberius was accused of child molestation which was considered "vile".
That the romans condemned child molesters is proof the romans opposed it.
No, there's an objective difference between "being nice" and being a moral person. The "morality is when ur nice 2 others!!1" ends up with the population normalizing stuff like pedos (now rebranded as MAPs) and the police covering up rape gangs because of "preventing le racism".
2 years ago
Anonymous
there is nothing objective at all you pedo. My made up morality says I get to murder you for being a pedophile. Cry about your objective truth as you dangle from the rope
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"nooooo u can't say morality is objective. Le heckin maps r ppl!! u.. u-u a pedo!"
Nice "no u", reddit pedo
2 years ago
Anonymous
stop talking like a moron who gets his script from /misc/ and maybe people will engage with you sincerely
2 years ago
Anonymous
>/pol/ >maybe people will engage with you sincerely
Redditspeak detected. You have to go back.
2 years ago
Anonymous
go back to therapy before you rape a kid
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stop projecting, reddit pedo
2 years ago
Anonymous
election tourist please go back to your containment board
you know it’s a redditor when they say this as if literally everyone here doesn’t agree with murdering people who don’t think the same as you. in a heartbeat I would lmao
This board is full of pajeets n shit, there's too many uneducated idiots for there to be a successful thread that's positive towards atheism
Theists are incapable of not being narcissists, because any animal that goes around thinking they have any idea over something that could create the entire universe is a delusional, selfish, lazy moron.
it’s insane seeing someone fellate their own intelligence, list a bunch of moronic ad homs and insults about people who don’t agree with them, and then proceed to call literally anyone else a narcissist lmao. here’s something narcissists are incapable of doing: giving anyone who doesn’t think like them the slightest bit of credit, or refusing to acknowledge they are rational human beings in the same way the narcissist is. maybe read about the definitions of the words you hear thrown around on reddit
Every time I make that argument in the comic, the atheist just ignores it but still tries to cope into morality or meaning for some reason. I've only met one consistent atheist and it was the saddest encounter I've had so far.
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Christians understand this film more than normies. It pushes the moronic theories of panspermia and evolution because normies love that shit and the director is a Satanic boomer obsessed with androids.
Anons larping as christians is the weirdest fricking thing.
But they're the furthest thing from actual christians. They have no actual morals and use the word of God as a battering ram.They are the definition of blasphemous.
>But they're the furthest thing from actual christians. They have no actual morals and use the word of God as a battering ram. They are the definition of blasphemous.
Where I live we just call them "protestants".
I was being sincere. I think a lot of the edginess and hatred across the site stems from a kind of escapist fantasy.
I would not personally follow the Ring of Gaia. Just that Satanism is fricking lame as shit. If you're gonna worship Lucifer at least make it cool. A bunch of goths playing pretend is lame.
The whole Anton Levay shit is cringey as frick I agree.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I was being sincere.
If you refer to the morons that post on this shithole as "Cinemaphileners" you're either baiting or you have to lurk for two more years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've been here since like 2008. I use Cinemaphileners for the typical newbie edgy to fit in behaviour. You can always tell when it's a proper anon because you can fricking feel the sarcasm emanating from the post. Cinemaphileners feel more like misguided kids just saying nasty shit because it's expected.
the election brought unironic christian conservatards here and they've never left
But they're the furthest thing from actual christians. They have no actual morals and use the word of God as a battering ram.They are the definition of blasphemous.
>But they're the furthest thing from actual christians. They have no actual morals and use the word of God as a battering ram. They are the definition of blasphemous.
Where I live we just call them "protestants".
I used to be a left leaning anti-moralist that would shitpost in rekt threads on /b/ and whatnot. I received signs from God that told me Christ is the truth. I lead a very different life than I used to at this point. People grow up. I can't stand the 2016 tourist's as well, though.
If you're genuine and aren't using christianity as an excuse to "hate Black folk, homosexuals, trannies and women" as the vast majority of "christians" on Cinemaphile do then I genuinely respect your shift and hope it works out for you.
I do my best to not hate anyone, which is a major shift from the extremely hateful person I used to be. We're all in this together. Appreciate it brother.
You sound like a good lad who made a positive shift in life.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Any newfound goodness in me can be pretty much solely attributed to our savior Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit. I've talked to a lot of Christians on here who were oldgays that found Christ as well, and have similar dispositions to me. Don't be too quick to dismiss all the Christians on here as larping r/thedonald /misc/tards. There are some people on here with some real legit faith and beautiful testaments to the Lord.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Those are also not the people talking about how Christ has given them power to go out and murder gay people.
Those c**ts are who I'm talking about, the ones who literally subvert His word to their own hateful ends. That's the real meaning of blasphemy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's all sorts of blasphemy, but I also can't stand when people bring up Christ's name as an excuse to hate instead of righteously condemn and actively try to help. For example, so many of the trannies on here are disenfranchised, emasculated, lonely, suicidal young men, that I feel really bad for, that desperately need LEGITIMATE help. I wish the "Christians" on here could do a better job of trying to help them, instead of encouraging suicide out of contempt for the troony menace on this website (which is very real). God's love can create tenfold what hate can destroy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
gender philosophy is so strong in their minds that I struggle to figure out how exactly to help them, trying to convince them that their suffering is one of God's tests and that overcoming it will lead to a stronger will and confidence in their normal identity just gets rejected flat out because they are so hurt that they are willing to sacrifice long term happiness for short term dopamine boosts in carnal pleasures. You tend to notice that transsexual culture is almost always related to sexual gratification which is a perversion of romantic love turned into pornographic desire (short term pleasure and a warping of what true love is). I just want to show them they do not need to sabotage their bodies, their minds, to feel loved.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well said, these are the same conclusions I've come to talking to these sorts of people. I think the best way to reach these lost souls is to remind them of basic human necessity for meaning, which they have forgotten, and that the "happiness" they seek is a lie they have ascribed to in place of legitimate meaning. There's a lot, but the best people like you and me can do is talk to them sensibly and with love. If you're able to talk to these people sensibly, intelligently, and lovingly, then you may make more of a difference than you realize, because it's rare thing these days to be talked to in such a manner.
so you had a bout of psychosis but got away with it because your schizo episode was dressed up in religion. best of luck in life and remember to take your meds
The signs that happened to me were not subjective, I didn't see Jesus or The Virgin Mary. I prayed, I sought, and my prayers and seeking were answered. I've also been to a shrink, and the only mental frickery I have going on is depression, not psychosis.
>heh, fricking shitstians and their ridiculous prophecies
No the prophecies might be the only soulful thing about the religion, at least that stuff is original writing. Not like the plagiarized garbage semites peddle like their own version of the much older flood myths and others. >WOW MY DOCTOR SAID I CAN BE A WOMAN TODAY TIME FOR SNIP-SNIP
I don't believe men can become women or women can become men. You are also mentally ill for selling your soul to a dead israelite btw.
I wonder what led up to the moral degeneracy which is western europe today. Couldn't have been c*th*licism which is a false religion that says you have to kiss Black person feet and forgive people that wrong you
I’m not a schzio but a lot of these threads are just made by bots. If it has some genetic politically inflammatory statement which literally any image could be attached to, it’s probably bot shit.
Imagine believing your morality is superior because you thoughtlessly follow rules established generations of kiddy diddlers who claim to be receiving telepathic instructions from a moon man instead of developing a coherent system of values based on principle and reason.
Morality is doing the right thing because it's the right thing, not doing the right thing because you're worried you'll a cosmic timeout.
May as well be. Your shitty rhetoric is reddit incarnate.
it must be a hard life thinking all morality comes from a book you're too dyslexic to read
I was going to tell you to do whatever sick, homosexual deviancy you atheists love promoting. But I'll be genuine and tell you to look into the contradictory nature of your position and ask for you to reconsider the idea that your life is meaningless. It isn't your fault you've been lied to by society, but it's your fault for accepting it when you should know better. Goodnight.
If God isn't real then the only logical manner of to human existence is absurdist egoism.
>Morality is doing the right thing because it's the right thing
What is the "right thing" to you beyond your conception of what is right and wrong?
If the supernatural (God, and the things which exist as a result of him) does not exist, then "morality" is just a bioelectric process in your brain. In which case, why do I need to care?
You're setting up a false dichotomy between and moral relativism and theism. You don't "need" to care in the sense of there being a cosmic enforcement mechanism that will punish you for being immoral, and that's precisely the point; morality is about your choices, and you can choose to be moral or immoral.
That's also a fallacy because you're still asserting morality exists beyond the bioelectric processes of your brain, when that could not be possible if the supernatural does not exist. >inb4 muh supernatural non-christian deities
Morality doesn't work in those systems because they aren't Omniscient, Omnipotent, and infinitely Just while simultaneously being infinitely Merciful.
The only way morality functions as something that exists beyond the human brain is in Christian Theology.
So, when you say, >morality is about your choices, and you can choose to be moral or immoral.
without actually proving morality exists beyond the human conception of it, then you've merely made a fallacious assertion. How can my choices be moral or immoral if morality doesn't exist?
>The only way morality functions as something that exists beyond the human brain is in Christian Theology.
How do you support this proposition?Unless you can, it seems to me that you're saying I'm wrong because my concept of morality is different from the Christian concept of morality. Which it certainly is, but I assume you realize the circularity of arguing that Christian morality cannot exist without Christianity...
>without actually proving morality exists beyond the human conception of it, then you've merely made a fallacious assertion. How can my choices be moral or immoral if morality doesn't exist?
Morality cannot exist independent of thought. How could it? You can't apply moral judgments to non-sentient occurrences, and morality isn't a property of matter or spacetime. I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that morality is subjective or relativistic or unreal. I suppose I'm saying morality is an emergent property of thought.
>How do you support this proposition?Unless you can, it seems to me that you're saying I'm wrong because my concept of morality is different from the Christian concept of morality
Your conception of morality is that it is not real.
The only way for morality to be genuine, supernatural law is if it comes from God.
Other moral systems are not logical. >Morality cannot exist independent of thought. How could it?
So I'm right.
If morality is not independent from thought then the only manner in which it exists is by the bioelectric processes of the human brain, which do not have any inherent authority over one person or another. >I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that morality is subjective or relativistic or unreal
That is exactly the conclusion it leads to. If morality isn't something that derives from supernatural law (the law of a supreme being), or even from natural laws (laws of mathematics, science, and so forth), which can be observed, then it's just a thought.
If morality is just a thought someone has, then the only way for this thought to have any relevance to the physical world is through the authority to enforce it.
If the power to enforce a law is all that is needed to make it real, and morality is not a NECESSARY element of existence, then the strong will do what they will and the weak will suffer what they must.
This is my point. Morality is not a necessary element of existence of you don't accept that God (the true Christian God) exists.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The only way for morality to be genuine, supernatural law is if it comes from God.
If we are assuming that morality = supernatural law, then yeah, I'll argue morality does not exist. But that's not a conception of morality that any non-thiest thinker I am familiar with takes seriously.
It's pretty clear this assumption (that morality requires a supernatural enforcement mechanism) underlies everything you have to say, so I'm not going to bother responding any further because we are talking about fundamentally different things.
That's not a fallacy fallacy. He hasn't given any proof that morality actually exists. He is just saying it does without any logical proof.
observe
Imagine believing your morality is superior because you thoughtlessly follow rules established generations of kiddy diddlers who claim to be receiving telepathic instructions from a moon man instead of developing a coherent system of values based on principle and reason.
Morality is doing the right thing because it's the right thing, not doing the right thing because you're worried you'll a cosmic timeout.
You're setting up a false dichotomy between and moral relativism and theism. You don't "need" to care in the sense of there being a cosmic enforcement mechanism that will punish you for being immoral, and that's precisely the point; morality is about your choices, and you can choose to be moral or immoral.
those posts.
>The only way for morality to be genuine, supernatural law is if it comes from God.
If we are assuming that morality = supernatural law, then yeah, I'll argue morality does not exist. But that's not a conception of morality that any non-thiest thinker I am familiar with takes seriously.
It's pretty clear this assumption (that morality requires a supernatural enforcement mechanism) underlies everything you have to say, so I'm not going to bother responding any further because we are talking about fundamentally different things.
So how can you say that morality applies to my actions universally?
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you mean by "applies"? Because all I mean is that an observer can evaluate your actions and decide whether they are right or wrong using moral principles. I believe those principles are universal and an emergent property of reason/thought, so the subjective moral beliefs of the individual are irrelevant (i.e., people can be wrong).
2 years ago
Anonymous
So I cant do anything wrong if no one observes me doing anything?
If moral principles are universal emergent properties of thought then how am I disagreeing with you? Were the aztecs just not thinking? Were the Spartans?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So I cant do anything wrong if no one observes me doing anything?
No, actions are right or wrong independent of whether they're observed.
>If moral principles are universal emergent properties of thought then how am I disagreeing with you?
Assuming you're the same guy, by insisting that morality requires a supernatural enforcement mechanism to be "real".
>Were the aztecs just not thinking? Were the Spartans?
I wouldn't say they weren't thinking in the sense that they were automatons or moral zombies, but they were very wrong about some things. I don't say they were necessarily stupid or evil, but for whatever reason they weren't able to organize themselves in ways that better realized morality-as-emergent-principle.
Church of satan is fricking lame as hell. They worship the concept of Satan as a rejection of Christianity, but don't believe in him literally. It's just goth atheists.
The Church of Gaia from Shin Megami Tensei is exactly what Satanism should be:
>individual quest for power >thinking lowly of those below you >leaders get cool fricking robes not goth shit >a blend of Nietcheanism, fascism, and Ayn Rand philosophy >samurai or fascist aestetics not gay got shit >draw inspiration from Lucifer as a figure of personal rebellion instead of slavish devotion >all about forging your own path
It's amazing to me just how many big bad Cinemaphileners are really just edgy teenagers who are likely getting bullied at school. That's not even supposed to be a dig, I'd genuinely like to just sit down and talk with some of you. Cheer you up a bit.
if a kid gives off "school shooter vibes" he probably uses Cinemaphile or will do so in the future. These people are quiet, loners, likely to be bullied, but will stew on edgy material, and usually have traumatic childhoods
I would not personally follow the Ring of Gaia. Just that Satanism is fricking lame as shit. If you're gonna worship Lucifer at least make it cool. A bunch of goths playing pretend is lame.
Nah, LaVey was really into satanism and esoteric shit. The modern Church of Satan was coopted after he died and now it's just a bunch of democrats, college lefties and atheistcucks trying to use the legal advantages of a religion in the US to "own the heckin chuderinos and conservatards". They should change their name to Church of Reddit lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Church of Reddit would be that Flying Spaghetti Monster shite. That's been cringey as frick since day one. I remember one of my mates who's one of those annoyingly militant atheists never shutting up about it. It was never funny and it never will be. I remember him saying "b-but it's about the ridiculousness of believing in a magic sky wiz......" YES WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE POINT IT'S JUST SHITE.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The whole FSM shit died in 2012. Now the satanists are the new "FSM" and do cringe stuff like this lmao
https://www.dailynews.com/2022/07/14/is-the-satanic-temple-a-protector-of-life-liberty-pursuit-of-happiness/
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm surprised that isn't thriving in our post-irony culture.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It won't thrive because "satanists" are a bunch of millenial college lefties and even zoomers are tired of their bullshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
I meant FSM shit. That's basically the level of wit of people these days.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just wait until one of those twitter/instagram/youtube homosexuals realise about the whole FSM shit and redditors will revive it again
The most moronic thing many athiests do is try to defend legitimate non-religious morality. It's as if no one read any of the modernist philosophers. I very much understand why someone would not believe in God, but to try and claim yourself as just as moral (or more) than a religious person if blatant reactionary moronation. If this isn't b8, please read a book.
how can religious morality be absolute when it does change with the passing of the centuries?
even devout christians follow non-religious morality. they read the bible and pick and choose the guidelines they like best. sermon on the mountain? punishing people for eating shellfish? why do we follow one but not the other if it all derives from the word of god? in the end, its always people making these judgement calls
>how can religious morality be absolute when it does change with the passing of the centuries?
It's a bit like communism, where they say "this time we got it right. All the past examples were misguided". It's perfect and pretty much unfalsifiable so whatevs.
I'm Christian, not israeli. The Old Testament stuff that people quote is Judaism, which I would agree is an outdated religion. The guidelines have changed twice over the course of human history if we're speaking to Christian morality. First when Judaism came to be, and second when Christ came to be. Some people do pick and choose about rules in The New Testament, but I try not to. The rulings of The New Testament are also pretty clear cut, especially when compared to the rules of the other 2 abrahamic religions. People will always need to make judgement calls about right and wrong because we have God-given free will. However, the thing that is absolute is the religious morality one chooses to adopt, because there is no changing what has been set by the higher power you have faith in. Also, many israelites still do still follow the Talmud and the Old Testament word for word.
>ITT: Bad movies
the main lead is Christian
Yes, ruining the entire Alien series by making Handsome Squidward the creator of xenomorphs was a great idea.
I just watched idiocracy today and honestly im gonna treat my fellow anons with respect from now on without calling OP a gay
Actually this movie is a great example why the evolution/luciferian mindset is self defeating.
Endless darwinism just leads to the death of everyone and everything in the end.
Get fricked moron
That wasn't the point of the movie. The point was Jesus was an alien, of an enlightened creator race that wanted their children to also be enlightened.
Ridley is such an idiot.
If Jesus is an alien that would mean nothing he said would have made sense, he was patrilineally descended from Abraham who was a human.
>no no the universe MUST confirm to my holy book written by sand Black folk 5000 years ago or it doesnt make sesne!
Atheists are incapable of creating great art, because beauty is an emanation of God.
Every time I make that argument in the comic, the atheist just ignores it but still tries to cope into morality or meaning for some reason. I've only met one consistent atheist and it was the saddest encounter I've had so far.
Christians understand this film more than normies. It pushes the moronic theories of panspermia and evolution because normies love that shit and the director is a Satanic boomer obsessed with androids.
your Christian morality is made up all the same, you just cope and believe it isn't. Yes, my morality is made up from thin air, the exact same way yours is. And I don't rape, murder, or steal, I've never even swore.
Literal brainlet take.
Obviously.
>Literal brainlet take.
I accept your concession of defeat.
You didn't make a single argument, anon. You don't even know what you don't know.
wow so you’re a slave moralist for literally no reason lmao. that’s pathetic
there is no reason for anything that we know of
I accept your seething at you conceding defeat.
okay, then stop seething when people have some slightly different code of nonsense to your own then.
stop projecting on me
Kek, I feel sorry for you. Ignorance is bliss.
>I am le animal
>but everyone besides me is a narcissist
>and that is le bad
>except I don't believe in le bad
>I am very smart 🙂
>Kek, I feel sorry for you. Ignorance is bliss.
So you admit I am not ignorant? Otherwise why feel sorry for someone you think has bliss?
Again, you don't understand the topic and are saying contradictory things. I feel bad for your inability to escape your ignorance due to your low IQ. However it must be bliss for you.
it must be a hard life thinking all morality comes from a book you're too dyslexic to read
>"morality is when you're nice because... BECAUSE I SAY SO, OK??"
this is literally the morality of all people every where for all of time
yeah those spartans throwing babies off of cliffs were so heckin common sense nice and polite. same as those romans anally raping children. wholesome
those romans were christian
Tiberius wasn’t a christian. Why even reply when you clearly don’t know what you are talking about?
who said tiberius?
Famous roman infant buggerer
Suetonius wrote that Tiberius was accused of child molestation which was considered "vile".
That the romans condemned child molesters is proof the romans opposed it.
No, there's an objective difference between "being nice" and being a moral person. The "morality is when ur nice 2 others!!1" ends up with the population normalizing stuff like pedos (now rebranded as MAPs) and the police covering up rape gangs because of "preventing le racism".
there is nothing objective at all you pedo. My made up morality says I get to murder you for being a pedophile. Cry about your objective truth as you dangle from the rope
>"nooooo u can't say morality is objective. Le heckin maps r ppl!! u.. u-u a pedo!"
Nice "no u", reddit pedo
stop talking like a moron who gets his script from /misc/ and maybe people will engage with you sincerely
>/pol/
>maybe people will engage with you sincerely
Redditspeak detected. You have to go back.
go back to therapy before you rape a kid
Stop projecting, reddit pedo
election tourist please go back to your containment board
Go back to your pedo subreddit, homosexual
have sex with an adult woman
If your god told you that killing unbelievers was good would you believe that and would you start killing unbelievers?
you know it’s a redditor when they say this as if literally everyone here doesn’t agree with murdering people who don’t think the same as you. in a heartbeat I would lmao
Yeah
Its not about "classic" panspermia and evolution, its about the ancient astronaut theory, and its not "atheism".
This board is full of pajeets n shit, there's too many uneducated idiots for there to be a successful thread that's positive towards atheism
Theists are incapable of not being narcissists, because any animal that goes around thinking they have any idea over something that could create the entire universe is a delusional, selfish, lazy moron.
it’s insane seeing someone fellate their own intelligence, list a bunch of moronic ad homs and insults about people who don’t agree with them, and then proceed to call literally anyone else a narcissist lmao. here’s something narcissists are incapable of doing: giving anyone who doesn’t think like them the slightest bit of credit, or refusing to acknowledge they are rational human beings in the same way the narcissist is. maybe read about the definitions of the words you hear thrown around on reddit
Anons larping as christians is the weirdest fricking thing.
the election brought unironic christian conservatards here and they've never left
But they're the furthest thing from actual christians. They have no actual morals and use the word of God as a battering ram.They are the definition of blasphemous.
>But they're the furthest thing from actual christians. They have no actual morals and use the word of God as a battering ram. They are the definition of blasphemous.
Where I live we just call them "protestants".
That would be an ecumenical matter.
I was being sincere. I think a lot of the edginess and hatred across the site stems from a kind of escapist fantasy.
The whole Anton Levay shit is cringey as frick I agree.
>I was being sincere.
If you refer to the morons that post on this shithole as "Cinemaphileners" you're either baiting or you have to lurk for two more years.
I've been here since like 2008. I use Cinemaphileners for the typical newbie edgy to fit in behaviour. You can always tell when it's a proper anon because you can fricking feel the sarcasm emanating from the post. Cinemaphileners feel more like misguided kids just saying nasty shit because it's expected.
I used to be a left leaning anti-moralist that would shitpost in rekt threads on /b/ and whatnot. I received signs from God that told me Christ is the truth. I lead a very different life than I used to at this point. People grow up. I can't stand the 2016 tourist's as well, though.
If you're genuine and aren't using christianity as an excuse to "hate Black folk, homosexuals, trannies and women" as the vast majority of "christians" on Cinemaphile do then I genuinely respect your shift and hope it works out for you.
I do my best to not hate anyone, which is a major shift from the extremely hateful person I used to be. We're all in this together. Appreciate it brother.
You sound like a good lad who made a positive shift in life.
Any newfound goodness in me can be pretty much solely attributed to our savior Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit. I've talked to a lot of Christians on here who were oldgays that found Christ as well, and have similar dispositions to me. Don't be too quick to dismiss all the Christians on here as larping r/thedonald /misc/tards. There are some people on here with some real legit faith and beautiful testaments to the Lord.
Those are also not the people talking about how Christ has given them power to go out and murder gay people.
Those c**ts are who I'm talking about, the ones who literally subvert His word to their own hateful ends. That's the real meaning of blasphemy.
There's all sorts of blasphemy, but I also can't stand when people bring up Christ's name as an excuse to hate instead of righteously condemn and actively try to help. For example, so many of the trannies on here are disenfranchised, emasculated, lonely, suicidal young men, that I feel really bad for, that desperately need LEGITIMATE help. I wish the "Christians" on here could do a better job of trying to help them, instead of encouraging suicide out of contempt for the troony menace on this website (which is very real). God's love can create tenfold what hate can destroy.
gender philosophy is so strong in their minds that I struggle to figure out how exactly to help them, trying to convince them that their suffering is one of God's tests and that overcoming it will lead to a stronger will and confidence in their normal identity just gets rejected flat out because they are so hurt that they are willing to sacrifice long term happiness for short term dopamine boosts in carnal pleasures. You tend to notice that transsexual culture is almost always related to sexual gratification which is a perversion of romantic love turned into pornographic desire (short term pleasure and a warping of what true love is). I just want to show them they do not need to sabotage their bodies, their minds, to feel loved.
Well said, these are the same conclusions I've come to talking to these sorts of people. I think the best way to reach these lost souls is to remind them of basic human necessity for meaning, which they have forgotten, and that the "happiness" they seek is a lie they have ascribed to in place of legitimate meaning. There's a lot, but the best people like you and me can do is talk to them sensibly and with love. If you're able to talk to these people sensibly, intelligently, and lovingly, then you may make more of a difference than you realize, because it's rare thing these days to be talked to in such a manner.
so you had a bout of psychosis but got away with it because your schizo episode was dressed up in religion. best of luck in life and remember to take your meds
The signs that happened to me were not subjective, I didn't see Jesus or The Virgin Mary. I prayed, I sought, and my prayers and seeking were answered. I've also been to a shrink, and the only mental frickery I have going on is depression, not psychosis.
transhumanists be like
2000 more years Golem
>heh, fricking shitstians and their ridiculous prophecies
>WOW MY DOCTOR SAID I CAN BE A WOMAN TODAY TIME FOR SNIP-SNIP
>heh, fricking shitstians and their ridiculous prophecies
No the prophecies might be the only soulful thing about the religion, at least that stuff is original writing. Not like the plagiarized garbage semites peddle like their own version of the much older flood myths and others.
>WOW MY DOCTOR SAID I CAN BE A WOMAN TODAY TIME FOR SNIP-SNIP
I don't believe men can become women or women can become men. You are also mentally ill for selling your soul to a dead israelite btw.
I wonder what led up to the moral degeneracy which is western europe today. Couldn't have been c*th*licism which is a false religion that says you have to kiss Black person feet and forgive people that wrong you
They probably can't comprehend the idea of two "souls"
>fedora tipper has webms of dancing Black folk saved on his hard drive
Imagine my shock
>oh yeah? I'll own you with MORE videos of dancing Black folk
Well played m'gentlesir
>itt: shit movies I pretend are good to dab on Christians
I’m not a schzio but a lot of these threads are just made by bots. If it has some genetic politically inflammatory statement which literally any image could be attached to, it’s probably bot shit.
hello newbie
>If your god told you that killing unbelievers was good would you believe that and would you start killing unbelievers?
>this question makes me unfomfortable because it raises a good point
I'd expect that kind of bad argument from a woman, anon.
It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all.
You, on the other hand...
>"I have finally become 'The Prometheus'"
I was shook when they actually said this line
Imagine believing your morality is superior because you thoughtlessly follow rules established generations of kiddy diddlers who claim to be receiving telepathic instructions from a moon man instead of developing a coherent system of values based on principle and reason.
Morality is doing the right thing because it's the right thing, not doing the right thing because you're worried you'll a cosmic timeout.
Not an atheist, btw.
May as well be. Your shitty rhetoric is reddit incarnate.
I was going to tell you to do whatever sick, homosexual deviancy you atheists love promoting. But I'll be genuine and tell you to look into the contradictory nature of your position and ask for you to reconsider the idea that your life is meaningless. It isn't your fault you've been lied to by society, but it's your fault for accepting it when you should know better. Goodnight.
I wonder why you are choosing to engage with the form of my post rather than the substance. Really activates the almonds.
If God isn't real then the only logical manner of to human existence is absurdist egoism.
>Morality is doing the right thing because it's the right thing
What is the "right thing" to you beyond your conception of what is right and wrong?
If the supernatural (God, and the things which exist as a result of him) does not exist, then "morality" is just a bioelectric process in your brain. In which case, why do I need to care?
You're setting up a false dichotomy between and moral relativism and theism. You don't "need" to care in the sense of there being a cosmic enforcement mechanism that will punish you for being immoral, and that's precisely the point; morality is about your choices, and you can choose to be moral or immoral.
That's also a fallacy because you're still asserting morality exists beyond the bioelectric processes of your brain, when that could not be possible if the supernatural does not exist.
>inb4 muh supernatural non-christian deities
Morality doesn't work in those systems because they aren't Omniscient, Omnipotent, and infinitely Just while simultaneously being infinitely Merciful.
The only way morality functions as something that exists beyond the human brain is in Christian Theology.
So, when you say,
>morality is about your choices, and you can choose to be moral or immoral.
without actually proving morality exists beyond the human conception of it, then you've merely made a fallacious assertion. How can my choices be moral or immoral if morality doesn't exist?
>The only way morality functions as something that exists beyond the human brain is in Christian Theology.
How do you support this proposition?Unless you can, it seems to me that you're saying I'm wrong because my concept of morality is different from the Christian concept of morality. Which it certainly is, but I assume you realize the circularity of arguing that Christian morality cannot exist without Christianity...
>without actually proving morality exists beyond the human conception of it, then you've merely made a fallacious assertion. How can my choices be moral or immoral if morality doesn't exist?
Morality cannot exist independent of thought. How could it? You can't apply moral judgments to non-sentient occurrences, and morality isn't a property of matter or spacetime. I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that morality is subjective or relativistic or unreal. I suppose I'm saying morality is an emergent property of thought.
>How do you support this proposition?Unless you can, it seems to me that you're saying I'm wrong because my concept of morality is different from the Christian concept of morality
Your conception of morality is that it is not real.
The only way for morality to be genuine, supernatural law is if it comes from God.
Other moral systems are not logical.
>Morality cannot exist independent of thought. How could it?
So I'm right.
If morality is not independent from thought then the only manner in which it exists is by the bioelectric processes of the human brain, which do not have any inherent authority over one person or another.
>I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that morality is subjective or relativistic or unreal
That is exactly the conclusion it leads to. If morality isn't something that derives from supernatural law (the law of a supreme being), or even from natural laws (laws of mathematics, science, and so forth), which can be observed, then it's just a thought.
If morality is just a thought someone has, then the only way for this thought to have any relevance to the physical world is through the authority to enforce it.
If the power to enforce a law is all that is needed to make it real, and morality is not a NECESSARY element of existence, then the strong will do what they will and the weak will suffer what they must.
This is my point. Morality is not a necessary element of existence of you don't accept that God (the true Christian God) exists.
>The only way for morality to be genuine, supernatural law is if it comes from God.
If we are assuming that morality = supernatural law, then yeah, I'll argue morality does not exist. But that's not a conception of morality that any non-thiest thinker I am familiar with takes seriously.
It's pretty clear this assumption (that morality requires a supernatural enforcement mechanism) underlies everything you have to say, so I'm not going to bother responding any further because we are talking about fundamentally different things.
That's just a fallacy fallacy, you moron.
I assumed they meant to say "wrong" but wanted to sound smart...
That's not a fallacy fallacy. He hasn't given any proof that morality actually exists. He is just saying it does without any logical proof.
observe
those posts.
So how can you say that morality applies to my actions universally?
What do you mean by "applies"? Because all I mean is that an observer can evaluate your actions and decide whether they are right or wrong using moral principles. I believe those principles are universal and an emergent property of reason/thought, so the subjective moral beliefs of the individual are irrelevant (i.e., people can be wrong).
So I cant do anything wrong if no one observes me doing anything?
If moral principles are universal emergent properties of thought then how am I disagreeing with you? Were the aztecs just not thinking? Were the Spartans?
>So I cant do anything wrong if no one observes me doing anything?
No, actions are right or wrong independent of whether they're observed.
>If moral principles are universal emergent properties of thought then how am I disagreeing with you?
Assuming you're the same guy, by insisting that morality requires a supernatural enforcement mechanism to be "real".
>Were the aztecs just not thinking? Were the Spartans?
I wouldn't say they weren't thinking in the sense that they were automatons or moral zombies, but they were very wrong about some things. I don't say they were necessarily stupid or evil, but for whatever reason they weren't able to organize themselves in ways that better realized morality-as-emergent-principle.
a lot of movies today are Satanic.
Church of satan is fricking lame as hell. They worship the concept of Satan as a rejection of Christianity, but don't believe in him literally. It's just goth atheists.
The Church of Gaia from Shin Megami Tensei is exactly what Satanism should be:
>individual quest for power
>thinking lowly of those below you
>leaders get cool fricking robes not goth shit
>a blend of Nietcheanism, fascism, and Ayn Rand philosophy
>samurai or fascist aestetics not gay got shit
>draw inspiration from Lucifer as a figure of personal rebellion instead of slavish devotion
>all about forging your own path
It's amazing to me just how many big bad Cinemaphileners are really just edgy teenagers who are likely getting bullied at school. That's not even supposed to be a dig, I'd genuinely like to just sit down and talk with some of you. Cheer you up a bit.
weak bait
if a kid gives off "school shooter vibes" he probably uses Cinemaphile or will do so in the future. These people are quiet, loners, likely to be bullied, but will stew on edgy material, and usually have traumatic childhoods
I would not personally follow the Ring of Gaia. Just that Satanism is fricking lame as shit. If you're gonna worship Lucifer at least make it cool. A bunch of goths playing pretend is lame.
they literally just picked the name "church of satan" to trigger christcucks in america, theres no other reason
Nah, LaVey was really into satanism and esoteric shit. The modern Church of Satan was coopted after he died and now it's just a bunch of democrats, college lefties and atheistcucks trying to use the legal advantages of a religion in the US to "own the heckin chuderinos and conservatards". They should change their name to Church of Reddit lmao
Church of Reddit would be that Flying Spaghetti Monster shite. That's been cringey as frick since day one. I remember one of my mates who's one of those annoyingly militant atheists never shutting up about it. It was never funny and it never will be. I remember him saying "b-but it's about the ridiculousness of believing in a magic sky wiz......" YES WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE POINT IT'S JUST SHITE.
The whole FSM shit died in 2012. Now the satanists are the new "FSM" and do cringe stuff like this lmao
https://www.dailynews.com/2022/07/14/is-the-satanic-temple-a-protector-of-life-liberty-pursuit-of-happiness/
I'm surprised that isn't thriving in our post-irony culture.
It won't thrive because "satanists" are a bunch of millenial college lefties and even zoomers are tired of their bullshit
I meant FSM shit. That's basically the level of wit of people these days.
Just wait until one of those twitter/instagram/youtube homosexuals realise about the whole FSM shit and redditors will revive it again
Lmao they're fricking larpers
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>implying
we done been denied kino
>there's no way to know right from wrong or good from bad without god
>because... because you just can't!!!
Fricking idiots
The most moronic thing many athiests do is try to defend legitimate non-religious morality. It's as if no one read any of the modernist philosophers. I very much understand why someone would not believe in God, but to try and claim yourself as just as moral (or more) than a religious person if blatant reactionary moronation. If this isn't b8, please read a book.
how can religious morality be absolute when it does change with the passing of the centuries?
even devout christians follow non-religious morality. they read the bible and pick and choose the guidelines they like best. sermon on the mountain? punishing people for eating shellfish? why do we follow one but not the other if it all derives from the word of god? in the end, its always people making these judgement calls
>how can religious morality be absolute when it does change with the passing of the centuries?
It's a bit like communism, where they say "this time we got it right. All the past examples were misguided". It's perfect and pretty much unfalsifiable so whatevs.
I'm Christian, not israeli. The Old Testament stuff that people quote is Judaism, which I would agree is an outdated religion. The guidelines have changed twice over the course of human history if we're speaking to Christian morality. First when Judaism came to be, and second when Christ came to be. Some people do pick and choose about rules in The New Testament, but I try not to. The rulings of The New Testament are also pretty clear cut, especially when compared to the rules of the other 2 abrahamic religions. People will always need to make judgement calls about right and wrong because we have God-given free will. However, the thing that is absolute is the religious morality one chooses to adopt, because there is no changing what has been set by the higher power you have faith in. Also, many israelites still do still follow the Talmud and the Old Testament word for word.
No, THIS is nice b8.
Nice b8
I'm a Christian and I think my Christianity helped me appreciate Prometheus and Covenant more.
I'm israeli and my israeliness helped me appreciate Top Gun Maverick and Falling Down.
Falling down is peak kino ngl
The Engineers were meant to be fallen angels anon. Try again
>poorly written trash
What's to get?