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Animaniacs 2020 was universally loved by critics and audiences alike, but is only hated by Cinemaphile for being different than the old show. The rest of the internet likes it fine.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      You lost the culture war

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Even at the start, it got a couple mixed and negative reviews from some sites. And old fans have been critical of it on their podcasts and social media.

        >not even a 7.9

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >7.8
          >universally loved
          what kind of cope is this

          I fricking hate the animaniacs reboot but 7.8 is a decent score by imdb standards, this isn't rotten tomatoes where the scores are averaged on a positive/negative review that makes no sense

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        if it were a successs they would have expanded and made more seasons.
        instead studios are shutting down and artists are unemployed. big W

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Lol yeah that's why all of the institutions dominated by shitlibs are Crumbling and have no cultural power.
          Cartoons have never been worse and indie has never been more popular.

          It's not looking good for you

          Both of these. Imagine your big claim to fame is having 2 seconds in the spotlight ONLY on streaming services, not being known outside of that to normies, being forgotten immediately and being shitcanned afterwards. Clone High is on that route as well and about to prove the 2 season send off being real.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >7.8
        >universally loved
        what kind of cope is this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lol yeah that's why all of the institutions dominated by shitlibs are Crumbling and have no cultural power.
        Cartoons have never been worse and indie has never been more popular.

        It's not looking good for you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        IMDB is shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        7.8 is a good score, but look at the amount of ratings, it's far too small for a show of this scale

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nooo my side lost? Well, at least there's plenty of art of Dot getting brutally assaulted (allegedly).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Where?! I haven't seen plenty. I need proof.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When it comes to critiquing modern cartoons it's like comparing a turd with other sea's of turds. You might have control of the industry but that's where your influence ends.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      [...]
      You lost the culture war

      All me btw

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fippy Bippy. OP forever sucking dicks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hell yeah, gotten. stupid gays.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I noticed the original Animaniacs show started to get more criticism in this board lately. What happened?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      John K always hated it, and Guy and his cronies worship him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Animaniacs and Tiny Toons were never great.
      There set themselves up for failure when they invited the direct comparison to classic Looney Tunes.
      Not, awful but any means with a few high points but nothing life changing.
      Kids WBs true legacy is that it was the birthplace of the DCAU.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        People who say this weren't watching TV when Tiny Toons changed everything. Kids cartoons were all poorly-animated toy commercials before based Steven Spielberg brought quality back.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Disney brought quality back with Gummy Bears and Ducktales.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True, I almost mentioned Ducktales in the post--great animation from the TMS Entertainment episodes. Although I think the Tiny Toons writing also helped change things.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah the animation renaissance we got in the 90s was entirely because Michael Eisner became CEO of Disney in the 80s and told them that needed to spend big money on animation, not just in movies again but for the first time in television. WB and other networks/production companies upped their game in response to that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Animaniacs 2020 was universally loved by critics and audiences alike
          It got cancelled after three short seasons with relatively zero backlash. They also replaced the OG show’s secondary characters with shit nobody cares about like that moronic gnome that comes out of people’s mouths and various other meta shit.

          [...]

          Beavis & Butthead and Ren & Stimpy had far more of a cultural impact on children’s animation and the counter culture of the 90s than any of the Tom Reugger shows did. Down to people still ripping them off to this very day. The only reason people care about the latter now is through porn of Minerva Mink, Hello Nurse and Fifi Lafume. Ironically enough, the departure of the first two probably contributed to the Animaniacs reboot’s downfall because there wasn’t any coomers to shill for it. Those shows relied on waifu-baiting and furries to keep them relevant. Because people certainly weren’t watching them for dated celebrity references or anvil jokes.

          Speaking of which, the Tiny Toons crew actually threw a fit about the Paramount shows being more popular and did this as a “joke”

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          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Beavis & Butthead and Ren & Stimpy had far more of a cultural impact on children’s animation and the counter culture of the 90s than any of the Tom Reugger shows did. Down to people still ripping them off to this very day.
            Animators were the ones who really liked those shows. But normies were watching Ruegger's cartoons, then they moved on with their lives as normies tend to do.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >But normies were watching Ruegger's cartoons
              Theater kids are far worse than regular normies. That was Tom Ruegger’s main audience.

              >Animators were the ones who really liked those shows.
              True, Mike Judge and John K were the big up and comers that didn’t originate from nepotism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Hot

            https://i.imgur.com/CbsLN9T.jpg

            Animaniacs 2020 was universally loved by critics and audiences alike, but is only hated by Cinemaphile for being different than the old show. The rest of the internet likes it fine.

            Every marvel movie after thanos (infinity war I guess?), kung fu panda 4 is generally liked, but hated here. People even hated the last gotg when it was really good actually.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >pic related
            You know, call me a huge homosexual but I remember panicking and distracting my little sister when this scene came on because I was worried it might make an impression

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When I was a kid, I would watch Looney Tunes and not get many of the pop culture references. How many 5 year olds do you know who watched Treasure of the Sierra Madre or Mutiny on the Bounty? Animaniacs took the idea of classic Looney Tunes's pop culture satire and updated it so kids would get the jokes (or at least more of them.) I'm sure you can hit me with "What 5 year old has seen the Godfather or Goodfellas?" Probably a small amount but by 1994, I'm sure they had seen impressions of them enough to get where they're from.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They mixed enough slapstick in that the pop culture references and golden age nostalgia went overhead. No kid knew what Goodfellas was but they did think it was funny watching Pesto slap Squit around.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Going back and re-watching it, the original Animaniacs isn't all that great. You've got some silly gags but it feels stale watching a bunch of episodes together at once. I can see why I enjoyed it more when I was younger, and the constant stream of stuff is good at holding kids attention. But I wouldn't give it much praise beyond that.

      I never saw the new Animaniacs to compare.

      Animaniacs and Tiny Toons were never great.
      There set themselves up for failure when they invited the direct comparison to classic Looney Tunes.
      Not, awful but any means with a few high points but nothing life changing.
      Kids WBs true legacy is that it was the birthplace of the DCAU.

      Nobody ever thought Tiny Toons was great. Anybody who's seen Looney Tunes is going to be disappointed by Looney Jrs. in grade school.

      Disney brought quality back with Gummy Bears and Ducktales.

      This. Frick Tiny Toons. It might've been better than toy commercials, but all the Disney cartoons at the time made Tiny Toons look like a joke.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    animaniacs was a pile of dogshit with an occasional gold nugget here and there

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Spiderverse obviously

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Naw. If you think that then you need to talk to more people not explicitly into this type of shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anon everyone and their mom loves spider-verse, the frick are you talking about?

        • 1 month ago
          guy

          >Cinemaphile isn't counted in 'everyone'

          Enough by itself to show that you have a broken brain that puts out nonsense. Funnily enough you are excluding a bunch of industry people who have posted here.
          Also
          >Lost award

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're replying to a schizo anon

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've never heard anyone say anything about the Animaniacs reboot outside of Cinemaphile

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Entirely wrong. Season 2 got ignored entirely by the internet to the point of indifference while season 1's debut was getting 100k strong twitter streams because just about everyone hated what they did
    It was coasting on reputation before

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Animaniacs 2020 was universally loved by critics and audiences
    for every two people who liked it, one didn't.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Tom Ruegger, the creator of both Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs, was not invited to be involved with either show. For the Tiny Toon reboot, he doesn’t mind that much—though he’s confused, he admits, about Buster and Babs Bunny being recast as siblings. (On Tiny Toon, “Babs and Buster Bunny, no relation” was a recurring joke.) Animaniacs is another story. “I had trouble processing the Animaniacs reboot,” he admits. “After seeing what they’ve done with it… it was not what I would’ve done with it.”

    >He adds, “I thought it was ethically, morally, and professionally wrong for Warner to make the reboot without me and the rest of the original creative team involved in a significant role. The reboot didn’t work.”

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought it was ethically, morally, and professionally wrong for Warner to make the reboot without me
      Hellooooo career suicide

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's retired and his career is over, he wasn’t even informed it was getting rebooted
        He can say what he wants because it didn’t matter

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >He's retired and his career is over,
          7D was shit and killed his career.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The industry has been collectively suiciding.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >career suicide
        more like career euthanized. the industry is fricked its not really a career anymore.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the same guy who got salty that Pokemon and Sailor Moon took his slots away when his go-to-strategy was always trying to sell 8-year-olds on Jerry Lewis references.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Jerry Lewis references
        YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND COMEDY

        Seriously, people don't believe me when I tell them they only like Animaniacs for the songs (and possibly Pinky and the Brain)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          False. I liked
          >the songs
          >Slappy Squirrel
          >the Goodfeathers
          >Dr. Scratchansniff
          I disliked
          >Pinky and the Brain
          >"this is just like that celebrity"
          >the hippopotamus couple
          >variety segments

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't really care for most of the songs.
          I generally liked the spoofs that were referencing current stuff I was actually familiar with, like Power Ranger and Barney.
          I liked Pinky and the Brain, Goodfeathers, Good Idea Bad Idea, and Chicken Boo.
          I usually enjoyed Buttons and Mindy although I felt bad for the dog.
          A lot of the other stuff was blah, or just puzzling because they were making references I had no chance of getting.
          I actively disliked Katie Ka-Boom though, she was too much like real people in my life and it was not funny.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >What they wanted was to deploy a barrage of cultural references to Ingmar Bergman, Alfred Hitchwiener, musical theater (Les Misérables with cats and dogs, an avian West Side Story), Orson Welles’s frozen-peas commercial, and whatever else the writers were into at any given moment. Rugg himself was behind perhaps the most esoteric episode of the show, an extended riff on both Hearts of Darkness, the Apocalypse Now making-of documentary, and Jerry Lewis’s The Day the Clown Cried, with the installment culminating in the Warners accidentally running over Jim Morrison of the Doors.

        >Much of this, obviously, flew over kids’ heads. “We never actually sat down and said, ‘Okay, what do kids want and what will they understand?’” says Rugg. “We just wrote what we thought would be funny. We were writing things that made us laugh and referencing things, no matter how obscure, that we got a kick out of.”)

        >“I remember, early on, a Warner Bros executive saying to me that my songs were too hip for the room and that I should be writing more in the style of Barney,” says Animaniacs songwriter Randy Rogel. “I told him that kids are a lot smarter than he thinks. Fortunately, Steven Spielberg agreed with that.”

        >According to multiple interviewees for this story, the worst thing about having worked on Animaniacs was getting the wrong idea of what a career in animation would be like. “It spoiled us,” says Stoner. “It’s a very different world today. Back then, we were just making each other laugh, with minimal interference from anybody.”
        tbh I'll take "boomers making cartoons solely for themselves" cartoons over "Millennials making cartoons solely for themselves."

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you're old tbh
          die already, you're a drain on the economy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a Millennial. Most cartoonists of my generation don't make things that appeal to me, too much of a cultural divide.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'll take Pokemon's "do what kids actually want now" approach

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My sister is a huge Animaniacs fan. Collects all the merch she can from the 90s.
    She didn't know this reboot existed till this year. And she only found it looking for stuff on the original series.
    This isn't speaking to the quality or content of this show. But outside of inner circle controversies, this shit has no visibility.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There was not enough Dot

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why do you make all those shitty threads? Leave that to people who actually watch and read Cinemaphile material.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >why do you make all those shitty threads?
      TMS shill is mentally challenged

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is he the same guy that keeps insisting that it should've been a Pokemon ripoff, or is that a different autist? Either way they're beyond insufferable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >insisting that it should've been a Pokemon ripoff
          If that's your takeaway from his posts, you're actually moronic.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, even the people that made this shit hated it.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looniversity is better

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the Freakazoid Teen Titans Go crossover blows this shitty reboot out of the water somehow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The last time Paul Rugg, Ed Asner, and David Warner get to be together, and it's on TTG! of all shows.
      It still hurts.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Better than them not being together at all ever again.

        Besides, gives kids a chance to ask who Freakazoid is and search the net.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        TIL Freakazoid was on Everquest.. Thanks for that. And since he was on both why did LTS and PacMan ghostly adventures choke so hard? They have literal decades full of content to pull from D:

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pac-man reeked of soulless design-by-commitee mandates like healthy eating propoganda and a fricking fart/barf joke quota

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Hell, just don't even bother creating the WB Network and keep Animaniacs and Batman on Fox Kids.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >kids didn't want Pokémon
    >what kids actually want (Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain)
    pure revisionism

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Also no Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries
    Did anyone even like that show? Pure slot filler.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I thought it was the best one out of the bunch.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't cared for that one as a kid, I would change the channel most of the time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      The WB seasons of Animaniacs were noticeably worse than the Fox episodes. They only had so many good ideas. The last season was full of lame parodies because they were truly scraping the barrel. Ruegger then went on to deliver Road Rovers which was a huge miss and Histeria which was okay but went overbudget which spelled the death of his career when Pokemon's success spoiled WB with regard to the cost of airing it.
      [...]
      It lasted 5 seasons and 52 episodes. Little kids were watching it. They don't have any strong feelings about it now, but that was the ideal show from the WB executive perspective as opposed to the cartoons that really appealed to older kids but not at all to the little tykes like Freakazoid.

      Sylvester and Tweety lasted so long that it actually switched from cel animation to digital ink and paint.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >The thing is that kids didn't want Pokémon
    What

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The WB seasons of Animaniacs were noticeably worse than the Fox episodes. They only had so many good ideas. The last season was full of lame parodies because they were truly scraping the barrel. Ruegger then went on to deliver Road Rovers which was a huge miss and Histeria which was okay but went overbudget which spelled the death of his career when Pokemon's success spoiled WB with regard to the cost of airing it.

    [...]
    >Also no Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries
    Did anyone even like that show? Pure slot filler.

    It lasted 5 seasons and 52 episodes. Little kids were watching it. They don't have any strong feelings about it now, but that was the ideal show from the WB executive perspective as opposed to the cartoons that really appealed to older kids but not at all to the little tykes like Freakazoid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The WB seasons of Animaniacs were noticeably worse than the Fox episodes.
      It wasn't just the parodies that sucked, they cut out many segments by the end, so they only had Slappy Squirrel which they kept spamming.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well they really wanted that Slappy spin-off to happen and there wasn't much else they could use. Rita and Runt vanished because they could only afford Bernadette Peters's huge fee for that first season. The Goodfeathers were Deanna Oliver's characters and she didn't make the transition to the WB seasons. Chicken Boo and Katie Ka-Boom were just the one joke told over and over again. Buttons and Mindy were unfunny sadistic slapstick. The Hip Hippos were a "you have to live in LA to get this" thing. Minerva made Broadcast Standards and Practices nervous. Guess we could have used more of Tom Bodett and Good Idea, Bad Idea, but that requires coming up with a lot of ideas.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > The WB seasons of Animaniacs were noticeably worse than the Fox episodes.
      Surprised this isn’t brought up often. The only memorable skit from those seasons was the Please Get a Life Foundation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There were a few I really liked. Variety Speak was amusing in an LA-writers-absolutely-seething-over-their-circumstances way, and the Ballad of Magellan was good. Also a lot of good Slappy cartoons like Method to her Madness and One Flew over the Cuckoo Clock

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This Pun for Hire is great too, one of best Warner skits. Also The Brain’s Apprentice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It lasted 5 seasons and 52 episodes. Little kids were watching it
      That can't be right....

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not, the original Animaniacs had 99 episodes, and a movie, Wakko’s Wish. And THAT had a spinoff Pinky and the Brain that had at least 65 full episodes and THAT had that awful Pinky Elmyra and the Brain spinoff with 13 episodes. It was definitely successful for its time. It also had a comic series that had a PatB spinoff comic series, video games, etc.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yet it had no cultural impact. Rugrats and Ren and Stimpy had bigger audiences and were referenced in sitcoms and Simpsons. even Doug lasted longer.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They were talking about Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries, which only persisted because Kids WB had nothing better to replace it with yet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Freakazoid, Road Rovers, Waynehead, Pink Elmyra and the Brain, Superman, Batman, Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, and multiple iterations of Looney Tunes compilations (That's Warner Bros, The Daffy Duck Show, Bugs n Daffy) were either canceled or ended before they pulled the Tweety Mysteries off the air. It did pretty good for its time slot.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Possibly, but none of them have any nostalgia for it whatsoever. And WB did not care about how many older kids or adults were watching any given cartoon. Their target demographic for advertisements was small children. The shows that little kids didn't watch got cancelled pretty quickly regardless of quality.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >They were some of the very few cartoons that can stand up to the classic Looney Tunes
    That's simply not true.
    Clearly you are mentally ill and like to hang around these threads to defend what you perceive as a unappreciated masterpiece.
    I sincerely hope you get the help you need before it's too late.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Tweety Mysteries was the last stubborn straggler of the original Kids WB lineup. It didn't last much longer once Pokemon came out, which WB bought the rights for dirt-cheap after its initial year of being randomly thrown around by local affiliates needing something to air at 6AM for the unfortunate kids forced to wake up for the school bus.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny that Animaniacs had four different finales in its lifetime
    >65th Anniversary Special (last Fox episode)
    >The episode that was an-all orchestra medley of clips (last WB episode)
    >Star Warners (shared finale with Pinky & The Brain)
    >Wakko's Wish (DTV special)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *Though I suppose the reboot finale where the original Warners kill off the new ones would make it five now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wait did they actually have a good ending for this shitshow with the OG warners coming back to murder the yellow gloved impostors?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          More like an admission of defeat, but yes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          More like an admission of defeat, but yes.

          I never knew that was how it ended. I feel like I need to at least watch that scene. But its truly a shame the reboot sucked. The idea of having all these voice actors back together again should've been much more fun.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Tress got old

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They all got old. Jess' wife tho

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That’s the most 2004 woman I’ve ever seen. Does just being Wakko make you score that high?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Does just being Wakko make you score that high?
                He was always a rock star before doing Animaniacs. I don't know how well it pays but he was always living like a rocker. I think he admitted to paying for her breasts and she loves them. They sound like a good match, he must have a bimbo fetish and she likes being looked after.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *Though I suppose the reboot finale where the original Warners kill off the new ones would make it five now.

          That's not what happened
          A random sketch gets interrupted by them noticing a meteor is heading towards earth
          They do a reprise of the "first lines" gag in the reboot pilot which gets interrupted by the meteor impacting and blowing everyone up.
          There's no "original warners come back"

          The show was a victim of to the warner bros discovery merger, not because of failing any performance metrics

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The show was a victim of to the warner bros discovery merger
            Are you sure this is true? The decision to cancel the show came from Hulu. It was never supposed to have more than 2 seasons in the first place.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They had their S3 episode count cut mid-production, hence the "2 10/13 new seasons" contract in the intro and the abrupt ending in an otherwise normal episode.

              It stands to reason that discovery wouldn't want to continue funding a show for a rival streaming service

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It stands to reason that discovery wouldn't want to continue funding a show for a rival streaming service
                That makes sense but it's still not true.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >not because of failing any performance metrics.

            ~~*metrics*~~ lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ed Edd n Eddy and The Fairly OddParents also had at least 4 finales. Just finding the right way to close out is either a battle for survival or admission you’ve been running too long.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait what were the other three EEnE finales?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Take this Ed and Shove It
          A Fistful of Ed
          Look Before You Ed

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nice

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It had no soul

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the Rueggerverse.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The first season was amazing. It felt very close to the original, this coming from someone whose favorite show used to be Animaniacs for years.

    The other two...what happened?! There's definitely a good batch of hits, heavy hits might I add, but mostly it's...seriously, what happened?! It was looking so bright.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Animaniacs 2020 was universally loved by critics and audiences alike

    No it wasn't. Sorry your vore infested propaganda won't be getting another season. No wait, I'm not sorry. Good fricking riddance.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"old animaniacs is bad because...because the humor doesn't personally appeal to me"

    have a nice day OP

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Owl House

    • 1 month ago
      guy

      It would be more popular if it didn't have so many bad changes

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >universally loved
    Bro nobody even knows this fricking thing EXISTS, partly because it sucked ass.

    The first season of Animaniacs 2020 only even got any traction because the original Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain were so well-known. After that, it pretty much dropped off the face of the earth. Along with a bunch of middling noncommittal reviews, some even early outright said it was bad, and the very few who stuck around after that first “whatever” wave tended to be negative.

    I’m a fricking Democrat, but I hated Animaniacs 2020 because some of the people making it obviously hated the original Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain. Yakko, Wakko, Dot, Pinky, and Brain were totally out of character, and those were the few characters they didn’t hate enough to kill off outright, although they eventually killed them off at the end.

    If I had hated Pinky and the Brain and Animaniacs, I wouldn’t be watching the reboot to begin with, so why would I keep tuning in regularly to watch the shows and characters get shit on? The whole thing should have just been a Family Guy cutaway about how much Pinky and the Brain and Animaniacs sucked.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Animaniacs 2020 was universally loved by critics and audiences alike

    Wow, that was funnier than the entirity of the reboot itself.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >universally loved
    they just didn't give a frick. just because they didn't go into a screeching downward spiral of rage like Cinemaphile does all the time doesn't mean they loved it.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >some of the very few cartoons that can stand up to the classic Looney Tunes, something Avatar/Korra failed to do.
    fricking apples to oranges comparison

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a single person here who enjoyed the Animaniacs 2020 reboot for ANY reason besides a shitty bottom of the barrel horny reason, like a non waifu reason (also not a vore or furry kink reason)?

    I ask because mostly people have never heard of this reboot, but those few who do have never mentioned a joke that was funny or a thing they like about it. Here people will horny anything and mention Animu Dot or some other shitty waifu or panty shots, but what else, if anything, did anyone like about it?

    The sole exception was the Anime Warners sequence, which I’ve seen praised. I agree that animation was very good, but it was not as funny as other anime parodies like Gumball.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My brother in christ, random horniness is one of the pillars of animation. Always has been. How many adults do you think would still be watching cartoons if they couldn’t get aroused by them?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know that this show had a furry fandom and Minerva Mink in the 1990s, but Animaniacs was popular enough to merit a reboot because the children watching found it mildly entertaining and the vast majority of them, whatever Cinemaphile thinks, were not actually beating off to the Warners in the bathroom. That’s the “niche weirdo” fanbase greatly over represented on Cinemaphile.

        What I’m asking is what the reboot even had to offer people who aren’t fapping to Nora, Dot, Julia, that little girl with the alien, or some background character, which is the vast majority of the general audience. I mean, another thing is, let’s be real: Hello Nurse and Minerva Mink are kind of like Jessica Rabbit in that they even show up as “normie” crushes, but the waifu bait in the reboot is all highly niche fetish shit all the female characters besides Dot are barely in the fricking show and not remotely worth watching it for since they cut Slappy and all of the female characters out of the damn show! What’s left is blink and you’ll miss them niche fetish character with a huge nose in the background for five seconds or niche furry mouse waifu character who barely appears briefly twice in the whole goddamn series.

        Most people who watched 1990s cartoons were kids who found them funny or at least blandly entertaining enough after school to not change the channel. Who is the audience for this reboot? What did people enjoy about it? Were there any funny jokes? I just mean that I already know here that the answer will be that ugly background girl #753783 has tiny boobs and buck teeth which fits anon’s fetish, which is the answer to what’s good about all media, so I want to know what if any appeal this even had for most people (and again, they would never have ditched Hello Nurse and Minerva Mink if they were even doing a “good job” with coomer bait).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Animaniacs is a fujo porn series

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I only know of it because one family member thought the "a cyclops looks like Trump" but was hysterical, and refused to talk to anyone for days because no one understood what was so funny about it.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It's time for troonymaniacs
    >They're disgusting to the max
    >Autogynephiliacs
    >They wear skirts instead of slacks
    >They're troonymaniacs

    >Come join them on the discord server pronouns "she" and "her"
    >Soon enough they rope and they will change to "was" and "were"
    >They insist you call them "ma'am" though they look just like a "sir"
    >Adam's apple
    >Wide clavicle
    >Futa connoisseur

    >They are the troonymaniacs
    >There's an axe-wound in their pants
    >They just can't accept the facts
    >They're looney to the max
    >They're troonymaniacs

    >They say "Age is just a number," whenever they are found
    >Grooming minors on the internet or on the playground
    >They wait in women's restrooms when no one is around
    >Then they pop out
    >And whip it out
    >And swing it all around

    >They are the troonymaniacs
    >They think they're cute but make me yak
    >No they can't transition back
    >But they're calling you the quack
    >They're troonymany
    >Totally insaney
    >Fricked up in the brainy
    >troonymaniacs
    >Those are the facts
    https://vocaroo.com/1hWQn1Z5Rftv

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sang it, laughed. 😀

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >More SJW shit then Zombie Simpsons.
    No one who calls it that still watches it weekly, so I don’t need to ask “Are we watching the same show?” If anything, they put in more racist and gay jokes in the teen-20s seasons

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >constantly feel nothing but hate here
    >still come back anyways
    What is wrong with me? I just wanna watch cartoons for fricks sake

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      social connection tinted by the fact that hate gets more responses so more anons trend towards being a shit than being nice.
      You want to talk about cartoons, but it's easier to shit on something than talk about something nice so more anons will respond with bait/shitposts because they're lonely.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I love golden age cartoons but comparing them to television shows is ridiculous. At least a diehard like John K compared newer tv cartoons to the Hanna-Barbera tv cartoons he watched when he was a kid.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Theatrical shorts aren't as important as the earlier feature length animated movies or Hannah-Barbera's TV animation in regards to the modern animation industry, maybe except for the first few shorts.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >kids didn't want Pokémon,
    As someone that was a kid during this era that's just a fricking lie. Pokemania was enormous and kids would go after ANYTHING with Pokemon's name slapped on it. The show was stupidly popular practically right out of the gate.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >No, that was just you
    That's one of the biggest moronic fricking gaslights I've ever seen, actually go frick yourself. Are you seriously unironically trying to pretend that Pokemania wasn't a thing right now? Are you fricking serious?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Poliwhirl is front and center, not Pikachu or Charizard.
      ...Why?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tajiri's favorite Pokemon, and pretty much early marketing's go-to for something that's easily recognized as a Pokemon that's not Pikachu.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Subliminal messaging. Hypnotic shaped Pokemon is hypnotizing your children!

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    which one is the best wing man

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The ones with actual wings.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >No, that was just you
    No that was just him and millions of kids across the entire planet
    >I was the same way because I just liked anything that didn't star humans, plus on going stories were new to me.
    ...so it wasn't just him, and it was at least him, and me, and you. You contradicted yourself in the second sentence.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    homie Pokemon was the biggest shit in the entire world for like 3 years, the frick are you talking about

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    And you know the games. And the card game. And the absolutely absurd amount of merchandise. Pokemania was hardly driven by the anime alone, it was a big factor but acting like it only existed because of Kids WB is ignoring everything else going on. Also it wasn't just me then was it you fricking shithead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not so sure this is the case for places like Latin America. Take what I say with a grain of salt because I wasn't alive during Pokemania, but I believe the anime was the main pusher for Pokemon here in Brazil. When people discussed it they instantly went for the anime instead of the games. I think some don't even know it is a gaming franchise at all. Not many owned portable consoles here at the time, but many had TV and the anime aired for free.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Here in France it was the cards game first, the anime second and the game third. But all were very popular of course

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't tho, that's why it was cancelled after only 36 episodes leaving 3 unfinished ""plotniles"" as opossed to the original one which lasted 99 episodes plus a movie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pic
      I try not to sound too much like a libtard on Cinemaphile, but that joke there is a horrific insult to every female writer and producer on the old Animaniacs. The joke wasn’t that a woman had a medical profession, it was how Yakko and Wakko only saw Hello Nurse for her sex appeal. Nursing had also been a job dominated by women for decades before Hello Nurse’s creation. The reboot writers were either insincere in their own feminism or just not feminists themselves.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You will find that a lot of libtards insult the contributions of women and other minorities in their desperate attempt to "break new ground."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Nurse's intelligence or role is not brought up once in Yakko's horny jokes about her
      Uh???

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They actually did joke about and mention that Hello (Heloise) Nurse had some crazy high IQ, like 195 or something, in the original.

        That was a later addition and she seemed genuinely airheaded in the beginning, I just mean if the reboot had actually cared about Animaniacs, it would be really easy to bring Hello Nurse back and get away from the sex joke thing, since the original already did it. Use her Wakko’s Wish characterization, for example.

        Instead, the “feminist” reboot nuked every single female but one from its main cast. It’s really hard to argue that there was any “feminist” problem with, say, Slappy or Rita. Now there are other reasons they were dropped, Slappy probably because they specifically wanted nobody who worked on the original outside of acting to have anything at all to do with the reboot originally and Sherri was also a writer (mind you that’s a bad reason, but it’s a reason), Rita even outside of the actress price tag maybe because Runt is problematic or they’re not very funny.

        Still, a cartoon that legitimately cared about feminism would, I would think, retool old female characters or make new ones to headline shorts that weren’t just someone recording their kid?

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    TMS gave us some of the best televised animation but even they bit off more than they could chew at times.
    >MAA: Given TMS' reputation for their technical excellence at animation on other contemporary series, and the very high quality of "Night of the Lizard", why did the animation quality of Spider-Man become very noticeably worse with each season, resulting in some four-frames per second shots in some later episodes?

    >Richardson: We made a deal with TMS to do the entire 65 episodes of Spider-Man, which was an unusual deal for them to make. They usually wouldn't take on this many episodes of a show like this. I believe that over time, as the scripts became more and more complicated and the production was costing them more by virtue of the yen to dollar exchange, they had to find ways to get their costs down. This problem usually results in reduced quality.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It sounds pretty absurd to hold a single animation studio responsibility, especially when it has only been contracted by many cartoon studios and show broadcasting studios to animate their shows...and that's all.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Blame the morons who refuse to understand that TV shows have a tight budget.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Looney Tunes as a franchise would be mega-fricked if this was the case.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >the episode where Professor Daffy is revealed to be an imposter who faked his identity after the Vietnam War
    >the episode where they killed off Elmyra by shooting her with a t-shirt cannon
    >the episode where Babs gets addicted to steroids and rapes Buster
    >the episode where Plucky loses a baseball game and everyone in ACME Acres drives him to suicide
    >the episode where Shirley becomes best friends with Lady Gaga
    >the episode where Hamton runs out of food in the house and spends the rest of it eating himself alive
    Man, I really wish Tiny Toons had ended in the 90s while it was still good.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Popular
    >Animaniacs reboot
    Didn't that shit got cancelled after S2? with a meteorite killing them or some shit?

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not really, Looney Tunes would be a sub series instead of a main series.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >TMS, they were the ones who brought feature grade animation to television
    jesus christ the delusion

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's amazing how no one gave a shit about this. At least shit like Velma was so bad it became infamous. This shit completely fell off by season 2.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Furries did take over for Tiny Toons Looniversity however, and if otaku try to get back their turf their posts get deletead and they get banned right on sight, more proof that nobody asked for a Rick and Morty anime.
    What the frick is this sentence

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I will go outside and invade your home. Please wait.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zero soul

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >The original team got shafted for a Tower of God series that should've been done by Dr.Movie as Japan and South Korea both hate each other's guts and a Shenmue anime nobody asked for.

    Famicom, STOP!

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Animaniacs 2020 was universally loved by critics and audiences alike,
    >was cancelled after two seasons due to poor viewership

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      3 seasons actually, but each season had far less views than the last, the last one largely went under the radar

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Season 3 was cut down.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Real talk for a second:

      I don’t think that Animaniacs 2020 was either horrible or that it did horribly. I think it’s three short season were probably pretty normal for an animated streaming show.

      But it sure had no love in it. The people working on it seemed to dislike the original, which is confusing.

      Despite whatever you could say about Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, they feel like passion projects.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Despite whatever you could say about Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, they feel like passion projects.
        and maybe if we give them another season it'll come back.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm still pissed Helluva Boss did essentially false advertising about what the show really was going to be, but I appreciate the authenticity of her works.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It just isn't funny.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone please walk me through the “Jacking-off-to-Julie-Bruin to Yellow-Peril-extremism” pipeline that someone in this thread fell into?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Famicom ALWAYS shows upnand then /misc/tard does too, we cannot have unironic discussions of either these shows of animation outsource without them to show up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ban him

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Suddenly almost 40 posts disappeared

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else dislike the Slappy Squirrel segments? The character only makes bad one-liners and constant fourth wall breaks that gets annoying real fast.

    Piss-poor attempt of trying to be like Golden Age cartoon characters.

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Also the Tom Reugger shows were much, MUCH larger then Beavis & Butthead and Ren & Stimpy
    Must’ve been the Avatar kind of popular because literally nobody brings up Animaniacs or Tiny Toons in their “I love muh 90s cartoons” arguments. Both shows have aged horribly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >world's largest tiny toon fan
      is he larger than the babs guy doe?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah they are kinda dated.
      B&B and R&S are more unique in the sense that they're aren't direct callbacks to old school cartoons.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >You're delusional, normies love Slappy Squirrel
    This doesn't answer his question, you idiot

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah but actors back in the 30s and 40s were practically real life cartoon characters. They had their own unique personalities and abilities. That kind of thing didn’t exist anymore by the 90s.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Christopher Walken, Steve Buscemi...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that’s two people. Everyone else was a lame pretty boy like Lenardo DiCaprio and that became the norm throughout.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >That kind of thing didn’t exist anymore by the 90s.
      Nixon was in a shit ton of 90s cartoons because he acted like a cartoon character irl.

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >rest of the internet
    >aka. place where you get silenced for not agreeing with whoever runs the moderation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As someone who would be open to talking about positives in Animaniacs 2020, I mostly saw no discussion of it. The only actual talk I even saw about it outside of here was about whether it actually made fun of Johnny Depp or not, and I just plain never gave a shit about the Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard drama at all, which is what those discussions where actually about, so I disengaged.

      Then there was a little bit of handwringing about Donald Trump, but I wouldn’t even call those “discussions.” Animaniacs 2020 has Trump as a big fat cyclop. Ok? Some people b***hed about that but it never even turned into an actual discussion that I could talk about.

      I tried to get people in real life to watch the Animaniacs 2020 reboot with me. But after maybe the 3rd episode, they wouldn’t watch it anymore because they lost interest. Hulu still had the original Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain available at the time, and they went back to selecting those when they wanted Animaniacs. Since those dropped off, they just dropped it altogether and now I never hear shit about it anymore anywhere.

      So what the frick does anyone want to talk about it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NOBODY really wanted this, NOBODY wanted the reboot.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >dude boomer pop culture references lmao
    Even as a kid I hated this show.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the macarena is apparently a boomer dance
      You must be 18 to post on this website.

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yakko would be such a fun guy to mess with (sexually)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I miss Yakko

      Someone post the angsty and emotionally abusive yakko fancomics

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's funny to me

  70. 1 month ago
    DoctorGreen

    >Animaniacs
    >popular
    only Cinemaphile and woke furry twitter talk about that show

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Without the inside scoop, these ignorant morons in the in crowd can't produce timeless scripts. They just string together
    hip quips and dope jokes to sucker in the youngsters. Sometimes the old school zings with some ringers though making it not complete trash. Reboots usually suck.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I miss Yakko

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who the frick is Animaniacs for? It's too stupid for adults and 90s kids don't give a shit about some esoteric Debbie Reynolds reference. Animaniacs was the product of crusty old boomers like Spielberg forcing children to like the stupid shit they grew up with in the 50s. It is the ultimate Hollywood old man circlejerk, a studio making a show about itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you actually asking? It had a sizable audience at the time of very high college students who probably laughed at it because they were fricking high. The “Finger Prince” joke is funny with enough weed, although most things are.

      As a kid, I never cared that I didn’t get any of the references in either this or Looney Tunes, but then, I was a fricking kid. The colorful movement and songs were probably enough to entertain me. And the cartoons from The Dark Age of Animation leading up to this had been horrible. This shit was incredibly popular AND lauded at the time, but the bar was on the fricking floor, it was terrible toy commercials that people also recall fondly because they were children.

      Was it great? No, but something like Yakko’s Countries of the World was legitimately fricking Shakespeare compared to ORIGINAL Banned Horse Show, which was godawful and the kind of thing early 90s cartoons were contending with in the minds of children at the time, I mean that’s what kids coming back from school to watch it grew up with this was some fricking mind blowing quality compared to fricking Dino-Riders or the goddamn Fluppy Dogs or fricking Jem, the frick do you think?

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I lost interest after season 1 but I will always defend their new design.

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looking back, the weirdest aspect of Animaniacs is that it had a bunch of references and celebrities, yet none of them voiced their animated counterparts.

    Not even Spielberg voiced himself when he appeared, and he funded it. What gives?

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Brain was so out of character in this reboot that his voice actor actually talked in interviews about it making him uncomfortable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Voice actors are almost never vocal critics of what they’re given. Maurice LaMarche having the instinct to complain about this publicly is how you know you’ve fricked up/succeeded in fricking up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it surprised me too. You know it’s really bad because they will sing a project’s praises no matter what.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it surprised me too. You know it’s really bad because they will sing a project’s praises no matter what.

      If you are mad because “they made Brain Evil!” Then you are wrong. He was always in the wrong, with plans like frequent use of mind control and wanting to flood the world. He was never a morally good character.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If not less evil, he was at least depicted as less sinister in the older shows, and his plans were more cartoony in concept snd execution than “mind rape my daughter”.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          If you are mad because “they made Brain Evil!” Then you are wrong. He was always in the wrong, with plans like frequent use of mind control and wanting to flood the world. He was never a morally good character.

          No, Brain was flat out not “evil” in the original cartoon shows in the 1990s at all. A jerk sometimes sure. But he frequently stated that he was trying to take over the world to make it a better place, and Tom Ruegger and Peter Hastings mentioned that he was created as a character who has good intentions. There were a few odd episodes that got shaken on this (like the cigarette episode) where Pinky stopped supporting him because of it so he backed off on whatever questionable thing he was doing because it was too far. Hell, he even took down the evil cigarette company in that episode.

          What you’re missing is that he’s pretty much literally in a Looney Tunes cartoon. Sure his ridiculous joke plan about giving everyone a bad case of static cling would cause damage in reality or whatever, but they actually show you outright in the cartoon that it doesn’t. The mice blow up into little chunks and then go back together again in Pinky and the Brain, and they show you that the worst thing that happens to people because of their plans is that they get mildly annoyed. The characters “know” that and don’t plan to do anything that would hurt anyone, it’s how Brain is different from Snowball. I really think that people have not seen this show for 30 years and don’t remember how cartoony it was or its tone at all, that was not a serious or gritty show. The taking over the world was just a joke like dropping anvils on people’s heads was and an absurd gag not some sin.

          The biggest difference and problem here though is that Brain actually calls himself a supervillain here multiple times. Even with some gritty take on it, it was really clear and consistent in the 1990s that both he and Pinky thought he was doing what was best for the world (Pinky even mentions this in his Christmas letter for frick’s sake) and he would be good for it, he even flipped out on someone who called him a “supervillain” once and angrily denied it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think this last bit too shows the issue where it’s not even like this is a new gritty take on it, more likely the writers don’t actually know the character. I mean the Pinky in the original show would not be helping Brain at all if he self-identified as evil like this either, wtf. It’s why he opposed Brain in the original show when he DID do something morally shaky and mentioned that his good points included genuinely wanting what was best for the world in the Christmas ep. Even in some edgy gritty take where now Brain is evil, he still wouldn’t ever actually go around calling himself that like he does here, it misses a huge part of the character.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              No, Brain was flat out not “evil” in the original cartoon shows in the 1990s at all. A jerk sometimes sure. But he frequently stated that he was trying to take over the world to make it a better place, and Tom Ruegger and Peter Hastings mentioned that he was created as a character who has good intentions. There were a few odd episodes that got shaken on this (like the cigarette episode) where Pinky stopped supporting him because of it so he backed off on whatever questionable thing he was doing because it was too far. Hell, he even took down the evil cigarette company in that episode.

              What you’re missing is that he’s pretty much literally in a Looney Tunes cartoon. Sure his ridiculous joke plan about giving everyone a bad case of static cling would cause damage in reality or whatever, but they actually show you outright in the cartoon that it doesn’t. The mice blow up into little chunks and then go back together again in Pinky and the Brain, and they show you that the worst thing that happens to people because of their plans is that they get mildly annoyed. The characters “know” that and don’t plan to do anything that would hurt anyone, it’s how Brain is different from Snowball. I really think that people have not seen this show for 30 years and don’t remember how cartoony it was or its tone at all, that was not a serious or gritty show. The taking over the world was just a joke like dropping anvils on people’s heads was and an absurd gag not some sin.

              The biggest difference and problem here though is that Brain actually calls himself a supervillain here multiple times. Even with some gritty take on it, it was really clear and consistent in the 1990s that both he and Pinky thought he was doing what was best for the world (Pinky even mentions this in his Christmas letter for frick’s sake) and he would be good for it, he even flipped out on someone who called him a “supervillain” once and angrily denied it.

              Stop lying, Pinky and the Brain were villian characters. The rest of the Animaniacs cast hated them, which is why they are usually seperated during ensemble shorts (Gunga Dot and Wakko's Wish for instance has them not interacting with the other characters).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea WTF you’re on about, because that’s not true at all? They interact with the other characters normally in Wakko’s Wish, or are you trolling and making a joke, I guess?

                Pinky and Brain cry over Dot along with the other characters in that “death” scene in the movie. Then at the end, the Warners actually appoint Brain to be Prime Minister as their most trusted advisor! That’s the ending! It doesn’t make much sense either, but only people who have never seen Animaniacs think Pinky and the Brain are “the villains of Animaniacs” ??? Thaddeus Plotz is the closest thing to that.

                The other characters don’t have any special feelings about them. All of the Animaniacs characters act equally towards each other as jealous co-stars fighting for screen time sort of, and that’s it. But I guess your post is a troll. There’s no common epic plot in the show where they are bad guys or something.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They interact with the other characters normally in Wakko’s Wish
                Only at the very end since they wanted to redeem Brain. At the start of the movie, everyone is singing in town while Brian looks outside, isolated from the rest.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because they are mice that live in a literal hole in the wall. Brain is also a grumpy old man trying to avoid crowds, Slappy is doing the same thing. They aren’t knowingly shunning them or anything, that’s way overthinking the plot. They and all the rest of the non-Warner characters are the same in that movie, they just kind of run around doing random comedic shenanigans and singing, there is no cohesive plot with any of them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Then at the end, the Warners actually appoint Brain to be Prime Minister as their most trusted advisor!
                Forgetting that Brain then openly boasts that in the sequel, he's going to betray the Warners and take over their kingdom, and then the world.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yakko, Wakko, and Dot are very well aware that that’s just Pinky and Brain’s shtick because it’s the plot of their skit, and it won’t go anywhere because they always fail. Brain is even breaking the fourth wall to mention it as a plot for their sequel here, they know they’re on a show and co-stars on a show.

                If anything, Brain and Pinky still owe Yakko, Wakko, and Dot petty revenge over that time that the Warners tricked Pinky and Brain into thinking the Pope wanted to meet them and instead got the crazed Animaniacs fanboys to chase them instead of the Warners so they could escape in Hard Days Warners.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't change the fact that when in Animaniacs, they're openly antagonistic to the rest of the cast and generally doesn't draw the line at much in their plans. It's only in their own show that they're given more sympathetic moments.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In most of the skits, like Hercule Yakko, they’re not antagonists or antagonistic in any way, shape, or form, though. They aren’t in Wakko’s Wish either, and I don’t count a single fourth-wall breaking sequel gag. ALL of the characters compete with each other in the movie for the wishing star because it’s a parody of It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. Most of the time when there’s a crossover they are no more or less antagonistic than any other character on the show, they’re usually just in the background.

                There is a single cartoon short out of a hundred where that is true, and that’s the one where the Warners go to Camelot and fight a dragon that turns out to be Brain and Pinky in a robot suit. Still, they give up and the cartoon ends as soon as they find out about each other, they’re not “doing battle” or anything. They don’t act particularly antagonistic, all of the Animaniacs just act kind of snippy with each other (like the Goodfeathers and Slappy arguing in the full Pinky and the Brain episode).

                Their plans on the og show are ludicrous too and Brain’s “make the world a better place” shtick starts in either his crossover with Mindy or the Meet John Brain episode, so that wasn’t new for their spinoff or something, it was always there. Yes there was one early outlier plan that was unusually destructive before they’d figured the characters out about how they would stop the earth from spinning with a giant cartoon magnet, and duct tape themselves to a tree, but even that plan (that was an outlier and early installment weirdness) I mean look at it, it is a joke. It wouldn’t have killed anyone no matter how absurd because nobody can die here, Slappy even goes on a soapbox rant about it.

                The idea that they were ever gritty and edgy villains instead of just mouse Laurel and Hardy is a bizarre retcon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The theme song says
                >to prove their mousey worth
                >they'll overthrow the earth
                Christmas theme says
                >Their holiday plan
                >Is to overthrow man
                Sounds pretty villainous to me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno man, did you actually watch the show instead of just listening to the theme song? The writers of the reboot sure as frick didn’t.

                Kids didn’t watch Animaniacs to see “morally upstanding citizens,” I’d say everyone save Buttons (who suffered for it) was kind of an butthole or sketchy or idk “naughty” so they’d be fun to watch, but this just wasn’t a good vs. evil show to begin with. The Goodfeathers being in the Pigeon Mafia or Slappy being a generally immoral violent psychopath who nukes people didn’t make them “villains,” either. Plotz was the closest thing to that, and even then, not really. Meanwhile the Pinky and the Brain show had Snowball as an actual evil villain to contrast with PatB who weren’t, and honestly, I think that was just kind of weird and a mistake, too, but at least he was only in like three episodes.

                Idk this is like saying Pigs in Space were the “villains” of The Muppet Show. A sketch comedy variety show doesn’t even have that shit. But since the writers of the reboot thought that getting rid of all of the variety on a variety show and not really replacing it with anything made sense, somebody involved there seems to have missed the point, I have no idea who. It’s too bad.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I think that was just kind of weird and a mistake
                It was an Orson Wells vs Marlon Brando joke, of course kids or anyone not familiar with Hollywood of the mid-20th century would get it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are the final boss in the Animaniacs SNES and Genesis game.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >put on Animaniacs as a kid
                >enjoy the Warners, Pinky and the Brain, Buttons and Mindy
                >parents enjoy Pinky and the Brain, Slappy Squirrel, Goodfeathers

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who enjoys Mime Time?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're only 20 seconds long and they are better than Randy Beaman kid.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I liked Mime Time, but it wasn’t as good as Good Idea, Bad Idea.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Well Rita considers Pinky lunch but cats will do as cats do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Voice actors are almost never vocal critics of what they’re given. Maurice LaMarche having the instinct to complain about this publicly is how you know you’ve fricked up/succeeded in fricking up.

      Yeah it surprised me too. You know it’s really bad because they will sing a project’s praises no matter what.

      Really? I gotta look this up because that sounds amazing. Also sounds like the Brain was too evil this time around? That’s hard to believe in today’s woke conservative pussy society.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, he’s probably only evil because he is a “man,” ignoring that he is a fricking animal. The reboot was also really into shitting on Yakko in a “men suck” way and Dot ranting about hating men to the point it felt like self parody but I don’t think it was.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >he’s probably only evil because he is a “man,” ignoring that he is a fricking animal.
          i know i'm going to regret saying this, but how do you explain Pinky?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            gay. doesn’t count.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's moron-coded and therefore inherently good on account of being a victim of society

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Dot ranting about hating men
          Yeah, isn’t she supposed to be boy crazy? I remember she’d smack Yakko with her mallet and stuff but that’s about it. Don’t reboot if you have to change stuff.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t know, they decided Dot is a manhater but seemed to think that was a good thing.

            They eliminated almost all the female characters but shitting on the male characters makes up for it I guess because feminism = misandry.

            Dot also angrily ripped up pictures of Hello Nurse and Minerva Mink, I don’t feel like og Dot would do that, she wasn’t hostile towards them.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think Animaniacs (original) is perhaps the most American-centric type of show that ever existed. Common lines I see depending if you think it's an all-time great or don't get it.
    I guarantee you all the people who complain about it in these threads are foreigners

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, only foreigners complain about stupid, unfunny shit like references to Jerry Lewis

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Jerry Lewis was huge in France.

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I still just want to know why the Warners all have jaundice in this reboot. Was it meant to be a subtle hint that they were Chinese imposters or something?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t mind the yellow color, but I am also curious why.

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Then why did it get canceled?

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Cinemaphile got so worked up about Season 1 of Smith-Man, yet completely slept on the second and third seasons where He-Man is revived, becomes even more of a bad-ass hero, and finally defeats Skeletor before fricking Teela in Castle Greyskull.

    It's almost is if people are so committed to their culture wars bullshit that they didn't realize the point of the whole first season was "Eternia is genuinely fricked without He-Man."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >reminder that people were uninterested in continuing to watch a show that had a fricking horrible first season

      buy an ad Kevin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it was bad on purpose, it's weird that people who thought the show was bad did not continue to watch the show they hated, didn't they realize that it being bad was good?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      First impressions are everything and I don't owe any of these people my time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see why this is brought up as an example.
      Animaniacs 2020 series finale had Brain say the characters and overall franchise were shit and then kill the Warners off. The show never changed its bitter hatred

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was never good

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I never liked how Animaniacs ushered in this smug, cynical, meta ideal of cartoons being defined by forced puns and anvil gags. The kind of thing cartoon autists on Deviant Art try to replicate thinking they're really clever. I think Animaniacs doesn't get enough shit for that, although I didn't watch Tiny Toons much so maybe they encouraged it more.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I never liked how Animaniacs ushered in this smug, cynical, meta ideal of cartoons being defined by forced puns and anvil gags
      what brand of autism is this?

      • 1 month ago
        guy

        Zoomer literally a bunch of normies dismissed classic Looney Tunes because the kids WB shows made them think it was "all anvils dropping on heads." Your idea of "autism" is just ignorance of the past

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          shut the frick up guy, you moronic autist

          • 1 month ago
            guy

            Lmao enjoy getting more emails in the inboxes of your industry disrespectful manchild turd who can't handle being corrected about anything, so I'll correct your industry

            Starting with Animaniacs crew of course

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Okay, I’ll bite.
              >Lmao
              Same.
              >enjoy getting more emails in the inboxes of your industry disrespectful manchild turd
              You mean you?
              >who can't handle being corrected about anything,
              You mean you?
              >so I'll correct your industry
              guy has his own Project 2025. You learn something new every day.
              >Starting with Animaniacs crew of course
              I’m sure you’ve emailed Tom Ruegger telling him to kill himself every day for at least 20 years. You might eventually get tuckered out, champ.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                why would you ever bite
                every time you bite, guy ejaculates

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A small part of me wants to see him get a teensy bit more derranged with every reply he makes. It’s like punching a lion in the face.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ewww, guy agreed with me. Should I hang myself?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Should I hang myself?
            yes. not because he agreed with you, but because you give a shit.

            burning/destroying some epic bacon to stop the guy curse works too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >although I didn't watch Tiny Toons much so maybe they encouraged it more
      it probably did.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tiny Toons was largely built around this vibe of “we’ve boiled comedy down to a science, we have to have the anvil drop at this point because it’s known to work”. It’s so good that it’s bad, like there’s no charming errors or flaws. Cartoons can be good, but not so good that they’re perfect.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember laughing at the meta jokes about hollywood and showbiz as a kid because it made me feel smart kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was innovative for the time.

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I chuckled a few times, it felt weird though. It was missing something.

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I always sorta felt this way about Tiny Toons and Animaniacs. Back in the mid 2000s everyone wouldn’t shut the frick up about how great they were (especially Animaniacs), but I always thought they were kind of annoying and that the writers were weirdly jealous/spiteful towards anything more popular than these shows.
    Pinky and the Brain and Freakazoid are fantastic though, so these guys got better as things went along.

  87. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know that a lot of the other characters in the original Animaniacs weren't great, but the new show made me realize that they were needed. Having nothing but Yakko, Wakko, Dot and Pinky & the Brain was terrible.

  88. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yakko is the man trying desperately to hold things together like they once were and gets shat on for it

  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Ruegger retire? Did 7D flop that badly?

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    False

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