ITT: the absolute worst pages in comic history

ITT: the absolute worst pages in comic history

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      horseman looks good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look at that happy little face!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is peak kino actually, and it makes more sense when they reveal she's just an autistic woman.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't be too hard. That is a teenage girl with the entirety of Arkham as her adoptive family thinking that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't this basically Azrael's motivation?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but DC hates Michael Lane

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe they're just racist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe, but I have no idea why they keep duke around

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No they hate JPV too, Bruce sperging the frick out over him and kicking his ass out on the streets when he knew the guy needed mental help and had nothing over a dead villain and a dead civilian who he had no way of knowing about was one of the first big BatSchizo episodes.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, Jean Paul got shit on a lot, which is a shame because he’s my favourite member of the Bat-Family

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They seem more ambivelent. JPV got a really good mini a few years ago. It was a better Trigun than the new 3d one

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this page is somehow worse than all the other pages where superheroes aren't kicking Magneto's ass and putting him in prison

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny that when Aurora and Northstar sided with the X-Men and went to Krakoa they both got killed and replaced by clones for it. She should have stayed with the Flight.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never understood why this page was supposed to be bad. There's nothing wrong about Danvers mocking Magneto, especially considering his own worldview is not dissimilar to that of nazis he complains about, except with mutants being in the center and the rest being worthless.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently people are salty about it because how dare Carol make fun of Magneto, he was in the Holocaust and she should know that and give a damn about the suffering of the mass murderer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >point out that Mutant Hitler would unironically use Hitler as a scapegoat for his actions
        >NOOO!!! MY COGNITIVE DISSONANCE!!!
        Call a spade a spade, whether they went through the Rwandan Genocide, Armenian Genocide, or whatever, that shouldn't preclude someone from derision when warranted, and Magneto absolutely deserves a frickton of derision.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Carol is a c**t, it fits her character to be a c**t.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently people are salty about it because how dare Carol make fun of Magneto, he was in the Holocaust and she should know that and give a damn about the suffering of the mass murderer.

      I don't like when writers are clearly just writing themselves instead of the characters they're supposed to be writing. Why on Earth would Carol fricking Danvers know or have opinions about types of guys who argue on the internet? She wouldn't, but the twitter-addicted writer self-inserting as her would.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This but unironically, most of the worst pages we've seen in the last 15 years of comics are EXACTLY that: Writers just projecting their own views on characters
        I mean, that whole Thor vs Titania and Absorbing Man thing came out straight out of a forum discussion, it's so fricking moronic
        If you want to discuss social issues, do it gracefully and don't just write an angry rant and then put it on balloons

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They see their job as a writer as an extension of their twitter timeline. It's not a story. It's not a job they were given the privilege of performing, handling someone else's creations for the sake of an audience that is responsible for keeping them employed. The comic is a platform and to the narcissistic writers of Marvel and DC, a platform is something they are allowed and encouraged to use to say whatever moronic shit they feel entitled to spew at an audience who they believe should be thanking the writers for the gift of having an iconic superhero say some of the most terminally online homosexualy bullshit imaginable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mocking the holocaust survivor maybe? are you moronic?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Magneto shouldn't get a pass from mockery just because he's a Holocaust survivor, moron.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Am I supposed to care about feelings of a terrorist and mass murderer just because he was a victim of Holocaust at some point (especially seeing how he basically adopted the ideology that put him through Holocaust in the first place)? Having shitty things happen to you in the past isn't an excuse to being a menace to the majority of planet's population.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Magneto deserves to be mocked all the time he's a terrorist mass murderer

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's starting a police state and getting called a fascist to her face, and her response is "yeah, whatever"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Won't be the first time Danvers was advocating for a police state, this is pretty in-character for her all things considered

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She's getting called a fascist by a mass-murdering terrorist and sometimes cult leader, who has more blood on his hands than the actual Hitler. There's no reason anyone should care what he thinks or care about hurting his feelings.

          Back to your containment thread, caroltroony

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She's getting called a fascist by a mass-murdering terrorist and sometimes cult leader, who has more blood on his hands than the actual Hitler. There's no reason anyone should care what he thinks or care about hurting his feelings.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Carol should not be lecturing anyone about fascism after civil war 2 showed what she'd happily stoop to.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How old is Magneto anyway?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mid 80s

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gay Jon is so creepy

      If he was straight he’d have fricked her

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If he was straight he’d have fricked her
        That rape anon

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is from a highly-celebrated arc in a highly-acclaimed run. Even Cinemaphile defends it to this day.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I looked at this page and I refuse to read it. That dogshit "art" with all of those balloons, just get to the damn point. Do it in a single panel. Economy of words, you damn writers, ever heard of it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words

      Why not just write a fricking book at this point?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I looked at this page and I refuse to read it. That dogshit "art" with all of those balloons, just get to the damn point. Do it in a single panel. Economy of words, you damn writers, ever heard of it?

      >Words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words

      Why not just write a fricking book at this point?

      Readers back then ate that shit up and were happy Bendis made comics "grow up".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Way to ruin yet another kids medium.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah because it's a good run

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        suck my dick brian

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's mediocre at best.

        Maleev isn't for everyone but I really like his paintings

        His interiors during the later parts of his Daredevil run with Bendis aren't for anyone. It's a huge difference in quality from his pinups.

        Eh, the quality of the run degraded over time but it's still better than any ongoing I can think of.

        Not in that late stage. It's as bad or worse than any of the shittier stuff from today.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It looks like they just drew that hand with a laundry marker.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maleev isn't for everyone but I really like his paintings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        by painting do you mean photoshop filters?
        at least greg land would trace over images
        maleev is the biggest hack ever, he doesn't even draw just shoves images through filters and pretends he did something

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're not familiar with Maleev's process at all. He actually goes outside and takes photographs and started this style of drawing before it became popular. He was picked specifically for the way he drew non-comic art. He predates photoshop artists and tracers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That doesn't make it look any less shit.

            I'm into Maleev, Jason Shawn Alexander and Esad Ribic but it's not a very contemporary "comic book" style so I can see why some people hate it. It's very unorthodox for interiors, and in the case of Ribic in particular, the difference between his pin ups and interiors can be very stark.

            >it's not a very contemporary "comic book" style so I can see why some people hate it
            What kind of logic is this? I'd wager that most people that dislike Maleev prefer older art styles. I know I do. I think his pinups are fine, but his interiors are awful.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >prefer older art styles
              That's exactly what I'm saying. Oldschool Kirby ain't my thing. I'm more into unorthodox stuff. Doesn't mean he's a bad artist by any stretch.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                P.S. I should've said orthodox rather than contemporary, my bad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He may not be a bad artist, but his interiors on later Daredevil certainly look bad.
                Maleev isn't exactly unorthodox, he simply uses photographs like some other artists did and do.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's not filters, it's just his style
          this is from 1990

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah it is
            this picture is clearly photos ran through a copier then cut out and pasted together
            just cause he was innovative in his hackiness doesn't mean he isn't still a total hack

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm into Maleev, Jason Shawn Alexander and Esad Ribic but it's not a very contemporary "comic book" style so I can see why some people hate it. It's very unorthodox for interiors, and in the case of Ribic in particular, the difference between his pin ups and interiors can be very stark.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, the quality of the run degraded over time but it's still better than any ongoing I can think of.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pete looks like Garfield in the middle panel in the fist page.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Better than Waid's run

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The truth is that DD doesn't really have a bad run. At worst they're mid.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moronic zoomer

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I actually haven't read his most recent runs so I stand corrected. Up until a point he didn't have a bad one. Bendis was passable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have been waiting for Matt to go full Liberation Theology Zapatista for a while now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      beyond my comprehension

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is nothing wrong with this image or this run.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TLDR for those lacking context: this was from Bendis’ Daredevil run where Matt savagely defeated Fisk, and with his secret identity revealed declared himself the new Kingpin of Hells Kitchen.

      He encourages Peter, Reed and Luke to take control of their respective parts of New York since crime has lowered in Hells Kitchen. Naturally they're like "dude wtf no" and Matt goes "listen im the only guy doing shit to end crime y'all a bunch of pussies."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only good thing about this entire run is when it introduced Echo, which wasn't even Bendis because he had a 6 issue break while they did it

      plus i don't recall which page i originally cropped this reaction image from, but i'm reasonably certain it wasn't this one

      fricking maleev

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it is from that page.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the only good thing about this entire run is when it introduced Echo
        so this is the taste of the "people" who shit on this run

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Echo's introductory story is undoubtedly the high point of the entire run. It is better than anything Bendis has ever written, and all he was doing on Daredevil was repeating old Matt Must Suffer stories.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >some people actually defending it
      Those have to be bait.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stark's been getting it since Civil War.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This whole storyline was literally Tony Stark wanting people to see him as more than THE quintessential rich white man with a god complex, though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And did that happen?
        Also even that is the case, that dialog is still crappy and insufferable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My first thought is this is moronic, my second is to admit that, while moronic, it IS funny in a moronic way.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't love it but it's not the worst

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sentry is right
      >But is proven wrong when the bad guy breaks out and actually kills little kids
      Is the writer moronic????

      Sentry would've been right if Wrecker served his time, got out on parole and had an wife and kids and lived happily ever after and even became friends with Ben. Imagine that, Ben was so close to killing a guy that had potential to turn his life around, but Sentry stopped him and he got to see the guy change and accept that Sentry was right about letting the justice system work.

      But no, instead, the writer just goes full moron and makes the Sentry AND Ben look dumb as fricking hell by having the guy that Sentry saved just break out of prison and kill some kids.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The point is the principle of the thing, not the outcome. You follow the spirit of the law (note I said "spirit" not "letter" as the letter of the law can be wrong or misconstrued) because it's the right thing to do for the common good of man. Whether the law fails to do its job or not is not your fault. Wrecker was failed and went on to commit an atrocity in turn. He should have either been rehabilitated, remained in prison, or executed by the proper authority should his imprisonment be too burdensome on the state. That doesn't make Sentry wrong though. Their job isn't to mete out judgment on criminals. It's to bring them to justice so that judgment can be declared and they be made to serve their sentence. Wrecker did have the potential, but he squandered it. That isn't the fault of those who apprehended him though. The principle of subjecting someone to lawful penance is a good one. It's horribly reductive to look at it based on the net end result. Due process is a lofty ideal to aspire to, and being "one of the good guys" means you have the much harder job of trying to walk a fine line in doing good while respecting that process.
        Ben is right to admit that his job is to bring villains to justice and let the law have at them. He ought to still be angry about the outcome while still understanding that Sentry's intention was a good one. It's a more complex issue than you give it credit for.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At what point is bringing them in no longer enough? If the justice system is corrupt or incompetent and killers can get out again and again, leading to more innocent deaths, when is it morally necessary to take matters into your own hands?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only after you've already addressed the evil of incompetence that is the failure within the justice system. It is the duty of the people to hold their leadership accountable. Those who ought to be dutifully punished by the system but aren't because of corruption or incompetence are a separate issue, but also a consequence of this failure.
            So long as you want to aspire to being a symbol of hope and justice, which most superheroes do unless they're anti-heroes or plain murderers themselves, they do not have the right to impose their own judgment as final on their fellow man. So long as they want to live within lawful society, they too submit to the law and accept that due process is the correct thing to do. This is why it's never so easy as just punishing the wicked. There are moral complexities that no one man has the right to make a hard judgment on.
            I know that "catch and release" justice is incredibly frustrating, but that's because it's two complex issues compounding each other.
            Batman isn't at fault for Joker escaping or being released; the justice system is at fault for Joker never being rehabilitated, better incarcerated, or simply executed. Even if he's mentally ill, he must be held accountable for his actions whether he fully comprehends them or not. Ignorance is no excuse, but merely a reason. Likewise, Gotham is failing at revising the justice system that keeps allowing such a dangerous criminal to walk free. If they want change, they need to make it happen as a collective.
            >when is it morally necessary to take matters into your own hands
            If you want me to pin it down, never, but with a big asterisk. They shouldn't kill a villain unless there was no other reasonable way to protect innocents whose lives were in peril. If they can't handle that frustrating responsibility, then they should admit that they aren't a force for the good of man, but rather personal justice.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The people shirk their duty to hold their leaders and justice system accountable all too often, but I see the reason in your argument. I still have a lot of frustration for superheros that serve the corrupt justice system. Their intentions are objectively noble and correct, it's just the irrational part of my mind that refuses to accept it. I think it also feels hypocritical in some ways because it's easy to have high minded ideals when you have a distanced perspective on these atrocities, but not so much when it happens to you. Like, say, when the Joker kills your wife, unborn child, and home city, and then goes "lmao bring me back to jail, homosexual. I'll be out next week". Any reasonable person, in my opinion, would want to rip his fricking throat out with zero regard for due process.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's because an objectively fair and equal society sucks from an emotional perspective. People are very easily swayed by their feelings when such extremes occur to them, but having those feelings is perfectly natural. It's acting on them that becomes hypocritical. That said, aspiring to the ideal isn't a standard that everyone can expect to adhere to perfectly.
                I think the biggest problem with that page is that Ben doesn't really display frustration with the horrible atrocity Wrecker committed. It gets swept aside quickly to get to the point in the bottom two panels. In a story exploring the complexity of those feelings properly, it would still talk about the turmoil he experiences even if he does forgive and understand Sentry.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I'm with you there. Johnny's whole "shit happens" attitude doesn't help either.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You should probably worry about that corrupt system after putting the child killer out of his misery, anon.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At what point is bringing them in no longer enough? If the justice system is corrupt or incompetent and killers can get out again and again, leading to more innocent deaths, when is it morally necessary to take matters into your own hands?

          You'd think that the Wrecker, not being insane, would get a harsher punishment for murdering a few dozen children than simply getting sent back to jail. That's the sort of thing that should haunt a character, the same as how they can't use Nitro without mentioning the Stamford massacre.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He definitely deserves a harsher punishment considering he murdered a bunch of kids. That's execution-worthy. The fact that the justice system failed to come up with a reasonable punishment means it's incompetent.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I guess because it happened off-screen and it's only mentioned this once (AFIAK), it hasn't stuck to the character, so he can be still used for bro supervillain antics with his Wrecking Crew buddies. (Who go much better as a group than individually.)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't Wrecker already bring down a tenement full of people Ben Grimm knew, in front of him? Ben should have killed him then. He's announced his intentions to kill Doom often enough.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same author as Batman Year One
    Stay away from booze.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love schizo batman

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Filtered

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick.

      I've heard many bad things about All Star Batman, but is it fun to read at least like in a "The Room" type way?

      That's from Under the Red Hood.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you know what the worst part is. The first two issues of this were fricking fantastic, unironically. It is such a damn shame that third issue is so bad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as frank miller ages his young batman is written like a senile maniac
      >when frank miller was younger his aging batman was written like a rejuvenated 40 year old on test

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've heard many bad things about All Star Batman, but is it fun to read at least like in a "The Room" type way?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All Star Batman is genuinely great

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most of the hate from ASBAR comes from people suffering from "Not Muh" Syndrome who didn't understand what Miller was doing with it. It's admittedly flawed in places but it's thoroughly entertaining throughout

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We had Not Muh because DC marketed it as a response to the Ultimate universe. We were expecting modernization and adaptation distillation not Batman backhanding Robin and making him eat rats. Also we were still reeling from how badly Miller fricked up Robin in DK2.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        youre thinking of All Start Batman and Robin by Miller.
        All Star Batman happened right after New52 and was written by S Snyder. It was mid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All you need to know about ASBAR is that this is not an edit.

        It's a prequel to dark knight Returns and all the heroes are them at their worst. Batman is a smug sadist who shouldn't be near kids, Superman is a lawful stupid moron, Canary gets mad at guys calling her "love chinks" and beats them up in a fight scene full of ass shots.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, it's highly entertaining and a great book.
          Batman at his best.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Batman at his best.
            Ehhhhhh that's really a stretch but yeah it's fun. Hollywood is too chickenshit to do this kind of Batman.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go to bed Miller.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Canary gets mad at guys calling her "love chinks"
          How did Miller get away with this?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the poster meant "love chunks"
            there were other ridiculous come-ons in that spread, basically an entire bar full of chuds spouting off the cringiest cat calls until she kicks all their asses
            then she fricks batman on the pier

            I've heard many bad things about All Star Batman, but is it fun to read at least like in a "The Room" type way?

            yeah the room is a good analogue for it
            the art is pretty good but miller was losing it and the dialogue may be some of the most embarrassing ever written in a comic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >is it fun to read at least like in a "The Room" type way?
        Absolutely it's fricking unhinged in the best way possible

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I'm thinking it's comickino

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tfw you ate rats in a gutter just for some snot nosed PUNK™ to have the priviledge of takeout
          not on my frickin watch

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > rats in a gutter
            Later he was reminiscing on the good times he spent with Catwoman fornicating in the sewers

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I like how no batman except millers' uses the "punk" vernacular

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah because in his head he IS Clint Eastwood. Big dick is back on campus type shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            adaptation fricking when? Who should be cast as Batman and Grayson?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hollywood wouldn't touch something like this with a 10ft pole.
              That being said, I'd just get a Gerard Butler type for Batman and Aidan Gallagher for Robin.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A few things here. The comic is funny because it's just flipping the script on the already hilarious Israel hype, highlighting how ridiculous this conversation is. Which doesn't make it's Palestinian hype actually any better. Just funny. Because it's the same kind of myopic nonsense and the topic completely out of place in a scene where the Big Bad Wolf tries to shittalk evil Geppetto.

          The other things is, yes, the Plaestinians aren't the butt buddy of a global Empire. They're the smokescreen for a bunch of local, regional powers who can't even project themselves properly there. No one's worried Israel isn't gonna get to do whatever the hell it wants there.

          >tfw you ate rats in a gutter just for some snot nosed PUNK™ to have the priviledge of takeout
          not on my frickin watch

          I like how no batman except millers' uses the "punk" vernacular

          boomers were something else

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sauce?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Punisher 2099 #17

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why does he throw away the ice cream

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because he's about to beat Hal's ass

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, even dimwit Hal has been getting out of all-yellow traps since the silver age.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh absolutely, it's so fricking funny

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whats wrong with this? Are we pretending Batman isnt a flawed person in the wrong here?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Considering that Jason was originally suppose to die at the end of this issue, it's pretty damn bad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Batman is a flawed person, but it's sincerely misunderstanding the character to think he would kill anyone, let alone his son to save the Joker, when he won't even kill the Joker to save an innocent. That drives him from flawed to purely and psychotically evil.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          “his son” is a piece of shit murderer and was trying to make him a murderer too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are ways in which to avoid him having to murder but this isn't a good example. And all of this due to the meta reason that Joker is too popular to be killed off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The writer is the one who is misunderstanding the character.
          Even Zack Sneeder understood that when killing is the only option that's what Batman would do, and Miller understood it decades before.
          This is just bad writing and it keeps happening.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Batman should never kill. But there should be stories that demonstrate if it's the only way to protect an innocent from harm, he won't place his vow above their lives.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Batman should never kill
              I don't mind him killing or having a no kill rule. What bothers me is, like you said, stories that demonstrate the opposite of heroism.
              That's why I prefer self-contained arcs. Even in the event that the writer puts Batman through a test in which he has to kill, he can get away with it, because it's not an ongoing issue and you don't need the Joker or whoever to come back.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whether he ultimately kills or doesn't kill in stories, I just think the important thing is that it's shown that he won't let countless civilians or his own goddamned family be slaughtered just to avoid killing the Joker.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Agreed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The narrative does, this is one of, if not the, most famous BatSchizo episode, where he legitimately is willing to kill Jason who up until then has only killed criminals and is his son in everything but blood, to save the Joker when the entire issue only exists because Bruce argues that he can't kill ever and he can't allow others to kill, even to the point of refusing to kill the Joker despite his crimes, because he's psychologically incapable of stopping once he starts and sees zero nuance in the situation.

        By Batman, and doylistically the BatOffice's own logic, what makes Jason special? Why is Bruce, who supposedly wouldn't ever be willing to do this or stop if he did, able to do this and then stop cold? What, is Gordon and the rest of GCPD on the block? But no, because it turns out situations can have nuance and people can continue to exercise restraint with lethal force and not go around murdering innocents who inconvenience them arbitrarily...but if that's the case why the frick did this entire plot even fricking happen?

        "Shut the frick up, Batman is NEVER wrong and he's cool and his mental problems are cool and never a real problem and shut the FRICK up he's BATMAN and nobody is better!" Screams the BatOffice in reply, the same way they do any time the Bruce Wayne/Batman in their head is threatened by anything like "Admitting he's not perfect", "Suggesting anything could be done better about how he does things", or interfering with anything of "Batman and his bottom b***hes fight Gotham Villains in Gotham and nobody is allowed in or out for long that might show up Bruce" or even shit like highlighting the pile of contradictions that are his behavior or the "rules' he narratively follows.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why did he throw a fricking blade at his neck?
        Also the faces are terrible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Batman was unironically right to do this. No matter how much of a monster the Joker is, he is mentally ill and either the state needs to put him down, he needs to be put away forever, or a random stranger/mob needs to do the deed.

      I would have done the same thing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's a dumb scene and I enjoy Under the Red Hood quite a bit as an overall story.
        Frank Miller had an answer to this exact scenario and it was to pull the trigger.
        I do understand why he can't kill the Joker unless it's some self-contained event, but I would be fine if he paralyzed him permanently or something like that to shake things up. That way he could still live and possibly do his mastermind shit but he'd be punished to an extent that hinders him a lot. Alternatively just imprison him in the phantom zone for a few years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's a dumb scene and I enjoy Under the Red Hood quite a bit as an overall story.
        Frank Miller had an answer to this exact scenario and it was to pull the trigger.
        I do understand why he can't kill the Joker unless it's some self-contained event, but I would be fine if he paralyzed him permanently or something like that to shake things up. That way he could still live and possibly do his mastermind shit but he'd be punished to an extent that hinders him a lot. Alternatively just imprison him in the phantom zone for a few years.

        The best end to the Joker would be suicide. The issue is that he'll never feel guilty enough to do it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          MM made him temporarily sane once and he probably did consider it, but due to obvious reasons didn't do it.
          TDKR was the best of both worlds because Batman initiated the killing and Joker finished it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Damn, I know artists swipe but that Killing Joke swipe might as well be a trace.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The best end to the Joker is when he dies, which is very common for him. It's the best interpretation of his role - that he's a clown, the joke is him, and that it's only funny once it's over.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bruce has flat out refused to believe the WILL OF GOD HIMSELF would want the Joker punished for his crimes.
        The only justification is that they're super gay for each other.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >My God wouldn't punish a mass murderer who delights in tormenting others
          When did Bruce become israeli?

          Silly jokes aside, what type of insane reasoning is that? Joker's innocent because he doesn't experience guilt? Fricker still has reason and thus gain knowledge. Experience is not the only way to gain knowledge.
          Goddamn Bruce is dumb.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Jesus said as much. You cannot sin unless you have knowledge of sin. However, the Apostle Paul also told us that God gives those He didn't elect to be saved over to unnatural urges and the propensity for mass murder fits that bill.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >unless you have knowledge of sin
              You're telling me that Joker grew up to an adult age without ever hearing "thou shalt not murder"?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >elect to be saved
              the concept of RNG for your soul is a special level of bullshit, "Hey better enjoy your sapience while you have it, because when you die you weren't elected so have fun with an eternity or either oblivion or torment. And no, you can't do anything to change this please understand"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Because Joker doesnt know he sinned
          Should've killed bruce as well right there and then

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's the aftermath here

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why does mental illness excuse maliciousness?
        There are mentally ill people who are not malicious. They don't plan acts of mass murder.

        Putting that aside, what jury in the world would convict Joker's killer?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A random cop could shoot Joker in the back of the head in a police van and he'd get thrown a goddamn parade.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not just throw the batarang at the muzzle of the gun instead of, y’know… Jason’s shoulder?

        Oh wait, that's what the animated film did and it made Batman seem less like a psycho

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >random stranger/mob needs to do the deed.
        How is that better than Jason putting him down?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There’s no way people don’t think he didn’t deserve this. He wanted a mass murderer dead didn’t he? He should’ve died here.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shit like this is why I want more Thomas Wayne solos

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >checked
        I'm sure Ennis can shit out a decent mini or two about Flashpoint Bats

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seems the trick to becoming a murderous vigilante is to lose a child or wife (or husband) over a parent

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Amazing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's 100% right tho

        Also it's edited, in the actual comic he is talking about Israel, which got the local israelite haters and hamas worshippers knickers on a twist

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know that's what the original said, that's why I thought the edit was amazing. The actual stupidity of the original is Bigby talks about Israel being some inspirational, plucky little country capable of great things. And completely forgets it's because it's the butt buddy of the current global Empire.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > it's because it's the butt buddy of the current global Empire
            And palestinians aren't ? They're almost nothing without the arab league, and they'd be actual nothing without iran and qatar using them as a proxy
            they aren't some star wars rebels, they're victims taken hostage by an international jihad that locked them in a forever war they cannot possibly win and are gradually losing any prospect of getting out of.
            They should be pitied, not cheered.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A few things here. The comic is funny because it's just flipping the script on the already hilarious Israel hype, highlighting how ridiculous this conversation is. Which doesn't make it's Palestinian hype actually any better. Just funny. Because it's the same kind of myopic nonsense and the topic completely out of place in a scene where the Big Bad Wolf tries to shittalk evil Geppetto.

              The other things is, yes, the Plaestinians aren't the butt buddy of a global Empire. They're the smokescreen for a bunch of local, regional powers who can't even project themselves properly there. No one's worried Israel isn't gonna get to do whatever the hell it wants there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's 100% right tho

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The real page was talking about Israel, who are you even trying to fool?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love how this inspires anger whether you switch the words with "israel" or "palestine".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love the original page praising Israel among a shitloads of barabarians.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically I got into fables because I bought the wolf among us and really enjoyed it and then I think I got to this page and I stopped buying the books. it was shit before then anyway though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The game is better than the comic. Artwise it's not even close.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically I got into fables because I bought the wolf among us and really enjoyed it and then I think I got to this page and I stopped buying the books. it was shit before then anyway though.

          jesus how bad is the comic? the game is fricking awful

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yup

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >old comics
      Simple drawings with lots of funny gags, bright colors

      >modern comics
      annoying digital art where everything is a dark gradient and everybody are angry.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The cringe and evil are palpable

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is cute

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        frick you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah if you're a homosexual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Miles isn't Spider Man and never will be, no matter how much they force this kind of cringy "I'm better than you" shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Miles was in the right here, but I fail to see how people view this as Marvel jerking him off as being a better Spider-Man than Peter when he admits he couldn’t protect the city on his own while Peter was gone.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy unfiltered shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I despise King as much as the next guy, but come on, this scene was good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand what's going on here.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bruce is talking to DIck, Todd, Damian and Duke about a woman who was affected by Psycho Pirate.
        They are in a Batman and Villians themed burger joint.
        He's letting the team know what they have to do while he eats a burger with a fork and knife, and the boys are busting his Bat-balls.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow they're annoying.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still dont know why Duke is a thing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Writers really didn't want to write Damian.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Writers really didn't want to write Damian.

        The entire New 52 Bat-office was content to leave Damian dead, except for Tomasi and a few higher-ups who wanted him back right away. Then Snyder wanted Duke to be something "better" than Robin and now he's a forgotten Orpheus-tier footnote.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's fricking Vixen right? Jealous.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are bat-gays so insecure?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This really isn't that crazy. I have a friend who grew up rich and eats burgers like this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not even rich but sometimes it's more convenient to eat a burger this way, those things can be a mess

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trying to cut through a burger with a piddly little plastic knife sounds like a miserable experience, though.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She has the same jaw line her husband does

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only the big ones though. Not a shitty little mcdonalds cheeseburger. Makes batman look severely autistic

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no single comic page worse than the Black Panther "Power to defeat firearms" one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what about when he did that thing to the surfer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, nothing will ever be worse and more of a character assassination than when Black Panter revealed that he and his people have, for years, had the ability to render guns non-functional through technological means, and he only used it that one time to look smug in front of his black friends.
        You have the power to end ALL WARS and you use it to look smug.
        Frick off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Frick off.
          why you gotta be so mean for
          also are you talking about a hudlin run? cause that sounds like him

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dunno, it seemed like some team up run with black super heroes

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I dunno, it seemed like some team up run with black super heroes
              Sounds like Black Panther and the Crew. I never read it, but the premise gives me bad vibes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno, it seemed like some team up run with black super heroes

                >Black Panther and the Crew.
                OH its coates
                JUST as bad

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sounds like someone is threatened by Black excellence.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            SHUT THE FRICK UP COATES

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I raise you this

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Outsiders literally weaponize a cure for cancer

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Didn't someone do that to Deadpool, try to cure his cancer so his healing would go crazy and stop him? Not sure if it was before or after this issue.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That is really stupid and the author should be ashamed of writing it but it's equally stupid to think that taking guns off the table would end all wars.

          Humanity managed to have wars thousands of years before guns were widely used in warfare.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that was an unbreakable armlock

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The most egregiously dumb part of this is King apparently didn't know about Superman giving Batman the Kryptonite ring.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as good as batman
      >She literally defeats him and two demigods at the same time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ashamed the white male hero: the comics

      Is King as a cuck as Bendis?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        King’s way worse than Bendis, honestly

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        King’s way worse than Bendis, honestly

        King has this wierd kink where every female superheroes are better at everything the male superheroes do and he seems to think that makes her female characters good or something like that and not just annoying mary sues that can no do nothing wrong.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        King’s way worse than Bendis, honestly

        King is like a Bendis 2.0. Bendis2, perhaps.
        He's far worse with his movie-wannabe dialogue and character voice, far more destructively ignorant of any previous characterisation or continuity, far more reliant on having great artists to carry his shitty comics, and far more successful and praised than even Bendis ever was. It's horrifying.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LOL
      M
      F
      A
      OMG

      Harley wank is the saddest shit, she can be taken out by some dude that's fishing around in his pockets for his keys

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't Harley actually being extremely talented when she's not next to Joker one of her consistent traits?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      need mangos

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah everything about that comic was awesome.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is edited, it doesn't count.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The top panel counts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >two beings with literally the power of a multiverse
      >represents their vast unfathomable cosmic powers via the proverbial pie in the face with a planet

      creative juices must be running low i see

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's actually kinda entertaining and I kinda like what they're going for there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss the shitposts from Death Metal

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what happened with this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It ended. It only had three issues and it performed so badly it never got a sequel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't understand

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        holy shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      white women using "white man" as a gotcha/insult despite also being white themselves will never not be hilariously pathetic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any insult to white people in their own languages and in their own countries is just never going to work for obvious reasons. Even in nonwhite languages most white people just think it is funny since gweilo and gaijin just sound funny and remind whites of the time they de facto ruled those nations.
        Race traitor whites trying to say that shit is even more pathetic for more obvious reasons.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't both those words just mean 'foreigner'?
          Only weebs would go "wait, no, I totally have a japanese soul" for Gaijin and everyone else would just go "thank God" about not being Chinese (well, anyone who doesn't want to live in one of the pollution capitals of the world, at least. China had a nice place, but man did they let industry rape their environment).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Don't both those words just mean 'foreigner'?
            Gaijin yes but it is mostly used towards whites.
            Gweilo is specifically towards white people.
            You could look it up yourself.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Foreigner is the literal translation for "gaijin," but it's a shortened version of the full word, which shows disrespect. "Gweilo" means something like "white devil."

            But again, to your point, nothing like this bothers white people. It's just more cute to us, or like a fascinating thing that exists.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"gaijin," but it's a shortened version of the full word, which shows disrespect.
              Seems pretty mild as far as insults go, but I suppose it's cultural
              >"Gweilo" means something like "white devil."
              Ah so it's more of a targeted racial slur. Cute. I suppose it would have more impact on those self-hating white people with a white-is-original-sin complex. As an aside, I find it odd that 'Chinaman' became an insult. Englishman, Frenchman, Dutchman, Australian c**t, none of these are insulting but I suppose there's something behind that word becoming insulting that I don't know about. On the surface, it's just 'country+man', which shouldn't be insulting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I find it odd that 'Chinaman' became an insult
                Chink fragility

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                really anything can be turned into slur if it's used by enough hateful c**ts

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But then why do slurs against white people fall flat so often?
                I'm sure 'cracker' has been said with hate, but it's still seen as a silly thing to say.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well cracker is short for whip cracker as in slave owner
                so the people that coined it thought being a slave owner was the worst thing a human could be but obviously that didn't hurt the feelings of the slave owners and then over time the curse lost its context
                when i was a kid i thought it meant your skin was white like a saltine cracker

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's extra funny is that your first playthrough of Undertale is impossible to do Pacifist.
      You have to get the Neutral ending to get the Pacifist ending.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As one of the people slightly involved in the development of Undertale, I want whoever wrote this comic to have a bad life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and I made a pacifist run on Undertale my first time through -- including escaping the bullet hell, thank you very much.
      What an odd piece of writing.
      It's an obscure enough gamer reference (Undertale is semi-popular but not like Fortnite-tier) but it's worded like a boomer wrote it. What does she mean by "escaping the bullet hell"? The whole game is a "bullet hell", that's the gameplay style, it's not an actual place within the game.
      Maybe the writer asked their kid what game they just played with a vague description?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Civil War 2 was so fricking bad that they were retconning away the consequences of it happening at all before it had even finished.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >worst pages in comic history
    All of them. Westoids can't draw for shit.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The most unbelievable thing about this is that a doctor in Gotham City would risk triggering a transwoman into turning into a supervillain who might kill every ciswoman in you clinic to wear their ovaries as part of their costume.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The whole point of Gotham is it's a shithole that fuels more shit

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't even read the dialogue; the posing is really boring

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't believe this is literally just what the Red Skull pulled in AXIS (but in reverse? maybe?)

      I guess I can believe it, because both are unfiltered nonsense, but even so.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least Red Skull's plan felt like a goofy Silver Age horror comic plot. You were genuinely suppose to be shaking in your boots Batkek's brain being put into Doc Bathattan's body, like that scene in Green Lantern when we found out that Cyborg Superman, Superboy Prime, and the damn Anti-Monitor were now members of the Sinestro Corp.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Carol says that shit like she didn’t sign off on the detention camps the last time all the super heroes did this dance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've not really read comics for a long time, but some of these kind of read like the shit I'd read back on Deviantart way back when. Awful stuff, kek

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Surprised nobody posted this yet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the writer and editor should have been fired immediately after this came out

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The frick do editors even do? Seems like they greenlight everything. No matter how moronic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"on my moms"
      >the two would've flown away by the end of the first sentence, making her seem like a loon talking to herself
      >that fricking car
      Nothing will ever be worse than this

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow, I have no idea what's happening in the bottom half of that page

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >from taciturn expressions to spontaneous unprompted make-out session for three seconds
      >Tony's grumpy face like he's passively upset but resigned to his training room being the unofficial meeting place for Avengers hookups

      This thread is supposed to be about the worst pages in comic history, anon

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I realise now, after 20 years, that Herp Trimpe could actually draw very well indeed, and that he was trolling, absolutely rolling and trolling Rob Liefeld with this art over the course of the entire series.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is Sue Storm the template for the Soijak pointing meme?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No.
        Linking the template base so jannies don't think I'm shartyposting
        https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.IIZS~2ef73/w:auto/h:auto/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/e0f.jpg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What does his actually good art look like?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He did Hulk for years and years. He was the first artist to draw Wolverine.
        I am positive that he was deliberately seeing how badly he could draw on Fantastic Four Unlimited, but they never reigned him in, just like Wally Wood drawing Power Girl's boobs bigger and bigger to see if anyone was paying attention. But no one ever is.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IIRC Trimpe had to change his style in the 90s if he wanted to get work from Marvel editors, there seem to be conflicting stories on whether he liked or disliked what he was doing on those books, but it doesn't seem to have been some kind of deliberate trolling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aside from Hulk check out Marvel Godzilla. This look is still used by Toho for their official Godzilla icon.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What’s wrong with this? Just seems to be standard stuff for the replacement to worry he can’t live up to the original

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You really don't see anything wrong with the art?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shitting on finch
          lots of reasons to hate that comic but the art is not one

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >finch
            Is that really him? Looks nothing like it

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              disregard that
              I SUCK wienerS

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think he's referring to David

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >shitting on finch
        lots of reasons to hate that comic but the art is not one

        BRUH. Are you from Innsmouth? Because I think Tina McGee is.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    disregard that
    I SUCK wienerS

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This panel is so absurd and obnoxious that it swings back to being based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The better version of that image

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the repeated panel bit is still cringe.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's funny

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Of course the obedient digital servant should identify as a woman.
      I feel like this person was too eager for a "gotcha" moment to stop and think of the actual implications of this.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pay attention and more and more you will find that the people who voice these opinions always out themselves to be the most racist, most bigoted, most hateful people there are. All of their discourse surrounding the opposite side is projection.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do comic books not have editors anymore?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i don't get it, why would you NOT want a female voice setting?

      is that techie a homosexual or something?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because the robots are actively suppressing a customization option. for the consumer. It's like if you brought Skyrim and then the game decides you can only play as as a Female Imperial despite robust character creation being a selling point

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's supposed to have the option for male or female voice settings, so the buyer gets to choose what they want. It's not about what that one guy's personal preference would be, it's about them building a machine to have two different settings and one of them isn't working.

        IIRC it's because they'd made the silicon chips out of the Thor villainess Quicksand, and they all had her voice.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The moment the world turned on Jon Kent.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it isn't they turned on him when DC sent him off on a rocket and aged him up past the good supporting cast of characters, then they made him a gay to deflect criticism to his sexuality while intentionally killing an hype the character had. It's baffling why they intentionally sabotage a popular character when it's so difficult to get peoples interest in a new character in the first place

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cringe kino, both the comic and the movie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        name a better ending to a movie, you can't

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dose any one have that page of Cat woman knocking out 3 speedsters with a single kick

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shameful thread, somehow no one has posted this yet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because I haven't read it and never will

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately, somebody beat you to the punch.

      Surprised nobody posted this yet.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still want to know who's brilliant idea was to turn ATLA best character into a fricking cuck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never read this slop, but I remember reading the boyfriend was actually connected to the villain somehow. Is there some kind of comeuppance where Mai realizes she fricked up, or do they really just play it straight?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah he's connected to an assassin hired by buy Ozai loyalists Mai knew about this and didn't tell Zuko , Zuko yells at Mai then he apologies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They break up however there is no official media on her and Zuko getting back together.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's an agent by a bunch of disgruntled nationalists. After Zuko starts going crazy with the responsibility of looking after the Fire Nation colonists, Mai leaves him. However, she decides to honey trap this guy, the agent, in order to keep an eye on her dad, who is running the disgruntled nationalist group out of continued loyalty to Zuko. Yes, that's right, their relationship starts off with her using this kid, which her friend, Ty Lee, calls her out on.

        Even better, he breaks cover to save Zuko, realizing the nationalists are bad. This results in ZUKO defending him to MAI, who believes he's not to be trusted (since, again, she was only dating him to keep tabs on the nationalists). At some point they decide for Mai to genuinely give him a chance and THEN we settle into the cliche dynamics shown in that page.

        It's legitimately fricking weird, along with a lot of other weird ass stuff in these comics. What's funny is the writing tends to get better once Gurihiru is no longer being hired to draw them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically what is it that made him think it was okay to talk to the Fire Lord like that? Is it just not a big deal anymore in the comics?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one respects Zuko he's not a great warrior or a good politician, they rightfully think of him as a soft toothless fire lord that was only able to secure the throne by having the avatar defeat the previous fire lord

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically what is it that made him think it was okay to talk to the Fire Lord like that? Is it just not a big deal anymore in the comics?

      Zuko is a pussy.
      He's closer to like Prince Harry than someone anyone respects.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    if it had been Cyclops or Beast or Angel who said it, it wouldn't have been so bad

    as is, this is a character who can control minds, who's been shown to do so, and who (despite being a younger version of herself) has a non-linear connection to the phoenix force through time and space, a reality-manipulating entity

    you just can't trust anything she says, it's like taking lessons in objective reality from Kevin MacTaggert

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't there a theory that Emma (or Jean, I forget) being in Iceman's head is what turned him gay?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah because it makes sense and what tipped her off was IIRC she realized Bobby had never once stared at her ass or breasts or thought she was hot and EVERYONE who's straight apparently did that, and because metanarratively it was Bendis trying to stop Bobby from fricking Kitty Pride because he doesn't SI as Bobby and Bobby also isn't black and that upset him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      [...]
      This panel is so absurd and obnoxious that it swings back to being based

      [...]
      Is this edited? Context? What the frick.

      in the mid 2000s, writers had beast claim that he was gay, then dropped it

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nice tush

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That desperate, huh?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          where's the lie

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not that nice. The art is kinda crap.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm kinda okay with this one if only because I think the Executor is supposed to come off as an autistic schizo robot sperg.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        as an autistic sperg myself, even I know that patriarchal standards line is complete DEI nonsense. I'm trying to sleep with the female editor vibes

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah. Magneto deserves it.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any page from Widening Gyre

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who's he talking to there, the Grand Wizard?

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Is this edited? Context? What the frick.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >context
      bendis, i think

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The context is Gene Gray outing teen bobby Drake Infront of a large group of people

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Gene

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bad retcon writing

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >krakoa forgives apocalypse, magneto, sinister, mystique, sabertooth, all the other villains
    >but sage decides to try to air dirty laundry that happened before krakoa

    >experimenting on himself with MGH is not a transgression, and experimenting on yourself is at the very least more moral than experimenting on other people or animals

    >legacy virus
    is a disease that is not beast's fault. beast did not create the legacy virus. this is not an argument

    >threnody
    was literally spontaneously exploding and killing people because she had zero control over her powers, during a time when it was hard to test for legacy virus, and there was no safe way to keep her around other mutants when they didn't know how legacy virus spread. then later when the x-men went to save threnody, she chose to stay with sinister

    >inhumans
    beast literally tried to stop a race war, tried to cure the terrigen mists, storm assaulted him when he suggested mutants get their own planet, then the inhumans stopped the terrigent mists, not the x-men, after the x-men started a race war, then in krakoa storm was a leader for a planet of mutants anyway

    >the illuminati
    pretty sure few if any people know about this, and beast's possession of the mind infinity stone was willed to him after xavier died. the responsibility of saving earth and the universe was thrust upon him

    >i could keep going
    and all of it would be hack writer bullshit that no one asked for and that which no one really understands because it was all so incredibly out of character that it isn't even worthy of a response considering he did exactly what multiple other mutants of done, when he was literally given carte blanche by the council to do exactly what he did

    >assassination and rebirth of wolverine
    murder is impossible if the people are allowed to come back. it's nothing more than assault, krakoa had no stakes, and wolverine has literally killed 100s of people

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jobber stare

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So fricking bad.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is based actually and exactly how a "civil" conversation between heroes and Magneto should go. IE "barely".

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny thing is, while Carol is right, Magneto is right, too. They started opening up detention camps for precrime suspects.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why isn't there an outstanding dead-or-alive bounty on the Joker?
    You could probably become mayor of Gotham on that one issue.
    >If elected I will pout a bounty out on the Joker's head. I will then hand over leadership of Gotham to my cat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one's that crazy to try and kill the Joker, and no one's crazy enough to paint a target on themselves for getting people to try.

      He would just make an example of anyone who tried.

      Joker is like the Batman, he's just this boogieman who can get you no matter who or what you are these days despite being some dude.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No one's that crazy to try and kill the Joker
        There's been people who tried in this thread. Only Batman was dumb enough to stop them. Joker couldn't do shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Batman will personally stop every bounty hunter from killing his boyfriend

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can someone explain why the op image is bad

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's Carol calling a literal Holocaust survivor who escaped from a concentration camp "that guy online who compares everything to Hitler".

      It's not even necessarily a bad criticism to say that Magneto is just jumping to conclusions there, but it's a terrible comparison to make and a terrible person to make it too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Right. I Forgot. You're that one guy online who compares everything to Hitler."

        She said to the actual Holocaust survivor. What a b***h.

        ty

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Right. I Forgot. You're that one guy online who compares everything to Hitler."

        She said to the actual Holocaust survivor. What a b***h.

        Magneto literally kills people he disagrees with and does so because he's a racist piece of shit who assumes that they're his social, political and physical inferiors and that he'll get away with it

        so far not even the heroic X-Men - with all those mind-readers on the team, and don't tell me it's the fricking helmet or that Emma Frost never found a way to peek in - have held him to account for the murders he committed at the end of Magneto: Not a Hero, a miniseries in which he tries to clear his name when he's implicated in one murder, then at the end just decides to kill like a dozen people because he can, never mind the rampage solo book he had after that

        everyone's being written dumb because this is an X-Men book, where the main characters can't do smart things (which would fly over the heads of the intended audience anyway) so the guest characters have to be dumber, as they are here; you don't *need* to take this "are you judging me for my pre-crimes, Carol?" sealioning shit from FRICKING MAGNETO, a known terrorist, spree killer and mass-murderer who has taken over entire countries by force on at least two occasions to try and build a power base from which to start a race war (like the two or three race wars that the X-Men have started since he joined them full-time) after his original plan of creepy-asteroid base didn't work out

        he's already a villain with actual crimes he should answer for, but Carol's being written as though she doesn't know that just like everybody in Dark Reign was a moron about Norman "Yeah I killed a girl, which one? I killed a lotta girls" Osborn and let him end up running HAMMER

        the whole problem with X-Men is that they've tried to rehab so many shitty villains like this that the team is like if Batman had a book where he teamed up with the three Jokers to solve the crimes they committed

        god damn fricking moron franchise

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Right. I Forgot. You're that one guy online who compares everything to Hitler."

    She said to the actual Holocaust survivor. What a b***h.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's funny that not only is Magneto surprised by he's actually offended by anyone thinking he should be monitored.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Top this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Le Quirk Chungus Batman has a le bat bucket in his le bat car xDDDD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't people here constantly complain how grimdark comics are? You gays should be all over this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's like saying if someone doesn't like being too cold they should like being too hot.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ones complaining about "grimdark" or "edgelord" writing and not bad writing take it up the ass.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is fine without the last panel and arguably the fourth panel. The dialogue in the first, while cheesy, is fine. The issue is that the joke just goes on too long. Batman having a batbucket works with certain renditions of the character and him somewhat awkwardly explaining what it is okay (though not necessary unless you deliberately are writing a sort of awkward Batman who is spilling his spaghetti around Catwoman), but the final panel kills it because it just drags out the joke with overly silly reactions.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You must be on crack. The first panel is awful, and so is the rest. There's nothing "fine" about it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It reads like a rendition of some of the somewhat goofier TV Batman shows.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, it doesn't.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can totally read it in Adam West's voice up until the last couple panels.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's because you're on crack.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All black superheroes are secretly connected to each other including a fricking mutie
    I still don't know should i laugh at this issue or not

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      still preferable than wokeshit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is when multiverse fatigue became unbearble.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It got old with Slotter-Man.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have to be honest the numerous pet Robin is how I see regular Batman at this point

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Context?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Batman Who Laugh and his "justice league"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't even Batkek's Justice League; they were simply "What if Batman was not only every Justice League member.. .BUT EVIL, TOO?!?!?"

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wut

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cantwell really needs to get his ass kicked for that dogshit run

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even the MCU wasn't this obnoxious with Tony

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the art is worse than the diaologue t b h
    i don't like how carol danvers responds to magneto like her comeback in the diaologue is lame af

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There was no reason for this sequence.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the only reason why people were mad is that she said that it's only white college-educated men who do this. You take that out, and it's a valid question that a Marvel Civvie would have; how come we have to sit here and take it when an Avenger or X-Man goes nuts, kills a bunch of people, and then get put back on the roster when they hug it out, but I can't punch out someone who's genuinely causing trouble without ending up in the back seat of a patrol car?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a stupid, pointless discussion. The answer is bad writing.

        there's some poignancy here
        i know it's hard for you to look past the line that jeopardizes your fragile white boy ego, but this character interaction between a powerless teenager who resents hulk for being rewarded for his anger and an old beaten down hulk that has spent his entire life running from his anger is interesting
        i bet you yourself have had moments in your life where you've felt powerless, resented people who were socially allowed to have more power than you. can't you step outside of your own shell and put yourself in her shoes? i bet you can if you try

        >the line
        Most of the exchange is directly about social privilege. I'm not white.
        >can't you step outside of your own shell and put yourself in her shoes?
        I'd be pissing and shitting myself if I were in Hell. I wouldn't give one droplet about a conversation on privilege.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bad writing
          I'd be mad enough to impress the Hulk with my anger, too, if I had to live in a reality as poorly written as Marvel's.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Huh, rereading this after the ending of Immortal hits different. Devil Hulk is saying anger is a useful part of a person, not something to be ashamed of and that's an answer that TOAA was asking itself when it make the Hulk/TOBA.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's some poignancy here
      i know it's hard for you to look past the line that jeopardizes your fragile white boy ego, but this character interaction between a powerless teenager who resents hulk for being rewarded for his anger and an old beaten down hulk that has spent his entire life running from his anger is interesting
      i bet you yourself have had moments in your life where you've felt powerless, resented people who were socially allowed to have more power than you. can't you step outside of your own shell and put yourself in her shoes? i bet you can if you try

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i bet you yourself have had moments in your life where you've felt powerless, resented people who were socially allowed to have more power than you.
        You'd lose that bet, anon.
        Also you should really capitalize your 'I's, Not doing so looks childish.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i don't capitalize anything
          and you shouldn't critique the grammar of others when you don't proofread your own posts mr. Not

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You genuinely can't not post bait, huh? Even when you want to make a point or discuss a concept, you HAVE to frame it as incendiary.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's no point in trying to open up a debate on something like this, or even portraying yourself as some calm and reasonable person who just wants to discuss the topic, if you're instantly going to jump to condescending insults in your opening point:
        >i know it's hard for you to look past the line that jeopardizes your fragile white boy ego
        >i bet you can if you try
        Behaving like this instantly invalidates whatever argument one is trying to make. It's lazy and unnecessary.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A reminder that later in the run she got gamma powers and it didn't take long for her to start regretting it

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nah

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has Magneto ever done a single thing wrong?

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cant believe no ones posted this yet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      marvel died in 2009

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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