I never understood why weed was delegalized until I started listening to potheads speak
It's not that it's dangerous for your body or will give you cancer or anything, it just turns people into obnoxious morons who can't talk or think about anything besides weed
It's bad for the soul
i see where youre coming from, but most alcohol drinkers know it's bad for them, can admit when they have an addiction, and don't base their entire life and personality around ''dude weed lmao'', or, when someone tells them they have a problem, they dont go "ok but umm ummm ummmmm WHATABOUT THOSE OTHER GUYS?"
Potheads are some of the most annoying people I've ever met
I've known many casual drinkers, most of them very responsible people
I've not known a single casual pothead who doesn't smoke at least 5 times a week and isn't unbelievably annoying at all times, both when they're high, and when they're sober telling us how high they're gonna get and guys didja know they smoke weed? they smoke weed, guys! weed, bro! everyone has to know i smoke that plant! the mr iguana! the big whacky lettuce, bros! did everyone hear? i smoke weeeeeeeeeeeeed!
10 months ago
Anonymous
Not to mention that potheads are seemingly unaware of the fact that they reek
10 months ago
Anonymous
We're just used to the smell.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, potheads are annoying, but none of them killed my family because they were 'so high dude'.
Compared to what? The hundreds of times that happens a day with drunks? Post about it when a billion dollar recovery industry needs to be implemented because so many lives are ruined by pot annually.
Why are stoners always sexual deviants
>why are teenagers and wayward 20 somethings so sexually active
Well anon-kun, when a young man and a young woman love each other very much.....
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Well anon-kun, when a young man and a young woman love each other very much...
More like a group of young men and young women in the same room together
Pot literally does not make you noticably worse at driving unless you have smoked an ungodly amount of weed, there have been some studies.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Some studies >Source: trust me bro
Studies suggest neither does alcohol until you consume a very large amount
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Some studies >Source: trust me bro
Studies suggest neither does alcohol until you consume a very large amount
I live in a pot effectively legal state, so this affects my survival directly, so I decided to check it out.
First CRITICAL fricking problem: There is no equivalent to a BAC check, portable breathalyzer, ect, so you're trusting that "ungodly amount of weed" standard to a pothead who's fricking impaired. The only standard right now anywhere in use requires a blood test, and is primarily applied after felonies for an additional frick that dumbass. That standard is somewhere in the 2-5 nanograms per milliliter. "normal" levels found in drivers is in the 100-200 nanograms per milliliter, which drops off quickly after use. it's also not 100 percent related to imparment.
NONE of the fricking marijuana activists have any serious research for any fricking practical guidance on "how long should you wait after smoking a fat one before driving", like we have for alcohol. NORML's approach is to throw nonstop "the tests don't work", "booze is worse", "benzos are worse", "not sleeping is worse", "the drugs stay in your system longer so the test isn't accurate".
In closing, I'd like to say that the anons "ungodly amount of weed " seems to be 4 fricking puffs, so I'm going to ask for that anon to be shit on as a fricking lightweight.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>how long should you wait after smoking a fat one before driving
Its hard to get it down to a science because weed effects different people differently.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Its hard to get it down to a science because weed effects different people differently.
...and so does fricking alcohol. So the guidelines are adjustable for a shot of jack daniels on a skinny girl than for a light beer for a 300 pound bear.
The THC in products is now independently tested and listed on packaging. There is NO good reason why we shouldn't have some fricking range of hours that's based on actual testing and science now.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>how long should you wait after smoking a fat one before driving
Its hard to get it down to a science because weed effects different people differently.
[...]
I live in a pot effectively legal state, so this affects my survival directly, so I decided to check it out.
First CRITICAL fricking problem: There is no equivalent to a BAC check, portable breathalyzer, ect, so you're trusting that "ungodly amount of weed" standard to a pothead who's fricking impaired. The only standard right now anywhere in use requires a blood test, and is primarily applied after felonies for an additional frick that dumbass. That standard is somewhere in the 2-5 nanograms per milliliter. "normal" levels found in drivers is in the 100-200 nanograms per milliliter, which drops off quickly after use. it's also not 100 percent related to imparment.
NONE of the fricking marijuana activists have any serious research for any fricking practical guidance on "how long should you wait after smoking a fat one before driving", like we have for alcohol. NORML's approach is to throw nonstop "the tests don't work", "booze is worse", "benzos are worse", "not sleeping is worse", "the drugs stay in your system longer so the test isn't accurate".
In closing, I'd like to say that the anons "ungodly amount of weed " seems to be 4 fricking puffs, so I'm going to ask for that anon to be shit on as a fricking lightweight.
>You can't test blood levels
So? If someone is so impaired that their driving is impacted they can be grabbed for reckless driving. >There's no research on cannabis and driving!
There's tons. It shows that cannabis doesn't significantly impact habitual users beyond a DECREASE in avg speed and increase in defensive driving as users overcompensate for perceived deficits. Reaction times are not significantly impaired.
tl;dr it's literally not a problem unless you're a c**t working for the police struggling to find bullshit ways to write tickets and persecute minorities
10 months ago
Anonymous
I have academic credentials and just did a fast sweep of peer reviewed journals AND fricking lexis nexus.
What's the highest quality shit you have that gives the pot equivalent of an under the influence calculator for alcohol? The growers have been working on making stronger shit for decades, so we know they have SOME sense of "this shit fricks people up more".
's no research on cannabis and driving!
Not what I said. I said the research is fricking garbage at giving people practical advice.
Habitual users should wait X hours after taking Y. Casual and rec users should wait Z hours after taking A.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>What's the highest quality shit you have that gives the pot equivalent of an under the influence calculator for alcohol
It doesn't exist because most of the impacts of cannabis are subjective, tolerance varies wildly, and set/setting/strain tend to matter more than raw THC content. Attempts to correlate hard numbers like reaction time or even things like course completion time and error % to ingested mg or blood levels have failed miserably (though reaction time is apparently not significantly slowed).
The best advice that can be given is "don't drive if you don't feel capable of it." From the few studies I've seen that had actual driving tests the people that were too impaired to drive safely were first-time users that couldn't find their feet at the time.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>What's the highest quality shit you have that gives the pot equivalent of an under the influence calculator for alcohol
It doesn't exist because most of the impacts of cannabis are subjective, tolerance varies wildly, and set/setting/strain tend to matter more than raw THC content. Attempts to correlate hard numbers like reaction time or even things like course completion time and error % to ingested mg or blood levels have failed miserably (though reaction time is apparently not significantly slowed).
The best advice that can be given is "don't drive if you don't feel capable of it." From the few studies I've seen that had actual driving tests the people that were too impaired to drive safely were first-time users that couldn't find their feet at the time.
I'd also just like to reiterate that the mechanism of the drugs is kind of important here. Ethanol is a depressant that effectively slows and inhibits your CNS, hence the clear and dose-dependent impacts on things like reaction time.
Cannabis can have minor effects in all four categories (depressant, stimulant, dissocative, hallucinogen) but is primarily a hallucinogen working purely on the cannabinoid system as opposed to directly slowing or speeding up the CNS
>every alcoholic drinks and drives
Yes. If they are an ALCHOHOLIC they drink and drive. That's what it means to be a daily drinker. You are comparing apples and oranges here.
You cant smoke pot until you go blind, it doesn't inhibit your ability to drive to a point, and although a heroic dose of weed can frick you up for a while, you cannot literally die from blazing it too much in one go. Alchohol is literally poisoning yourself for fun, while weed is a moderately harmless drug in comparison that shifts your perception. Is it bad in excess, and dependacy forming? Maybe for some, but a dependancy on weed won't have nearly as disasterous an effect on one as an alchohol dependancy as stated above. The underlying problem for any drug dependency is not getting assistance for the problems that make you rely on the drug in the first place, and while both weed and alchohol can make you forget your problems, neither can solve them. Unless your problem is that you don't have enough weed.
> can admit when they have an addiction
self-deprecating boomer jokes like "lol need my drinkey teehee" is not actually admitting that you have a problem. You're fricking moronic if you think a majority of alcoholics aren't in denial about how bad their addiction is >don't base their entire life and personality around ''dude weed lmao''
If you are a severe alcoholic the withdrawal symptoms from not drinking can kill you. The literally have to base their entire life around drinking because not doing so actively puts their life at risk
amazing how all the replies are offended potheads going WELL WHAT ABOUT ALCOHOLICS
maybe if alcoholics took a break from beating their wife and kids and killing people in car accidents then people wouldn't be so quick to point out how they're significantly worse than people who are mildly annoying at worst
>alcoholic unable to confront their own problems
I wonder why you took up drinking hmm?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I dont drink alcohol. I just find it funny you guys cant defend yourselves on your own without immediately going to alcohol
Imagine if you were talking shit about people who ride motorcycles, saying they should be illegal because they're loud and obnoxious and make people too lazy to walk places anymore. How long do you think it'd be before someone brought up cars?
Theyd be wrong, if they want to defend motorcycles they first have to defend motorcycles on its own and then start talking about things that they consider more dangerous then motorcycles, because if they immediately jump to cars then they have admitted defeat and are trying to distract by pointing at something else
Imagine if you were talking shit about people who ride motorcycles, saying they should be illegal because they're loud and obnoxious and make people too lazy to walk places anymore. How long do you think it'd be before someone brought up cars?
You're delusional. You think people obsessed with booze isn't as prevalent because it's the norm. Imagine if it was normal to go to a fancy restaurant and ask to see the weed list. Yes there are obnoxious people who wont shut the frick up about weed but our entire society wont shut the frick up about booze.
My brother died because he was driving home from a bar drunk and crashed, and now every year on his birthday my family makes a toast to him by making his favorite drink. They honer his memory by literally drinking the exact thing that killed him, it doesn't even cross their mind that that's weird because if it was any other day they'd just be drinking different booze anyway.
>most alcohol drinkers know it's bad for them, can admit when they have an addiction, and don't base their entire life and personality around ''dude weed lmao''
you sound extremely sheltered, there are SO FRICKING MANY people who do this for alcohol
>t. never been around alcoholics
Or you're a delusional one yourself. Holy shit what a dumb ass opinion. I don't even know how to respond to this load of horseshit but I know alcoholics, been around them my whole life and I just know you just spouted the worst factless opinion ever to have. Kind of fricking insulting. And I'm on rehab from weed & alcohol, clean since july.
this, just ask most people that drink for fun once per week with their friends if they know they are likely going to develop dementia at their 60s, they think this shit is harmless if they are not drinking themselves to death like a hobo.
You think that's bad. Try asking your coffee-drinking friends if they know that the most common cause of death among caffeine users is heart disease.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The most common cause of death among everyone is heart disease
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah OK but EVERYONE who drinks caffeine dies, did you know that?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Studies have shown that people who already have severely high blood pressure double their risk of heart attacks and death by drinking coffee, but people who are currently healthy and drink coffee actually have reduced risk of developing new heart disease.
Nta but I think booze should be banned. It's bad for the brain. Serves zero purpose but to harm you. It is on the same level as hormones for trannies: it makes you feel good, but destroys your body.
It's been tried, I would be not at all surprised might be information to you.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I would be not at all surprised might be information to you.
Am I moronic or does this not make any sense? Anyway, we should at least increase the drinking age to like, 25 or something since that's when the brain is done
10 months ago
Anonymous
You aren't if it's a dialect or grammar issue. >It's been tried[;] I would be not at all surprised [that] might be [new] information to you.
10 months ago
Anonymous
a bullet through the brain is a lot worse than any amount of alcohol, and we let kids join the military when they're 17
10 months ago
Anonymous
Then raise that too.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>muh young soldiers argument
Countries have no choice but recruit young people otherwise the average soldier age would be so high the army wouldn't work at all due to soldiers having no stamina and retiring way too early, also it's far easier to learn a new lifestyle when you are young.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The military likes 'em young because they're easier to break in, more malleable. A 17 or 18 year old isn't physically as strong as a 25 year old, but they're not mentally as strong either.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Just because USA failed to make it illegal does not mean it shouldn't, Saudi Arabia and North Korea made it illegal and crime didn't skyrocket like happened in the USA
You made it illegal without raising awareness on why it should be illegal to begin with so people refused to follow the law, they didn't know how fricked up alcohol is.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're right, we should follow Saudi Arabia and North Korea's examples in how we order our society.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You say that, but north korea is considered "based" on the internet these days
10 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, Kim.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Kim will end "wokeness", i'm telling ya
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Saudi Arabia and North Korea made it illegal
Saudi Arabia and NK are also notorious shitholes that are controlled by tinydicked despots.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Salman has a tiny dick, but Kim Jong Un's dick is so big, you wouldn't believe how big it is if he didn't have men standing by to shoot you if you didn't.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You made it illegal without raising awareness on why it should be illegal to begin with so people refused to follow the law, they didn't know how fricked up alcohol is.
You're moronic.
The temperance movement was a century fricking old at that point, local governments and even entire states had passed their own versions of prohibition before the ban, and it was a constitutional amendment which needs a 2/3s majority in congress in order to even be proposed and then must be ratified by at least 3/4 of the states. People knew what the arguments for prohibition were. It had been part of public discussion for decades, and the act of drinking was itself fast becoming a political issue. There are many reasons prohibition failed, lack of public awareness and education was not one of them.
Now I don't know anything about Saudi Arabias ban on alcohol, but I do know that it has a very different culture than the US, and that Islam encourages temperance when it comes to drink and other mind altering drugs. So if I had to guess why it's worked there I'd say it's because alcohol likely never had as much prevelance as it did in America, making it easier to ban.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>alcohol likely never had as much prevelance as it did in America, making it easier to ban
This is very true. It's also true that if you try to sell alcohol on the black market, they'll cut your head off in the public square.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Now I don't know anything about Saudi Arabias ban on alcohol, but I do know that it has a very different culture than the US
Why do you think they developed their culture to hate alcohol? Because they hate fun? No because they realized this shit is not healthy, they raised awareness on it, they made alcohol look like a bad thing meanwhile americans thought drinking was part of the american lifestyle or some stupid shit. The only thing making anti weed laws work is the culture on hating it. >There are many reasons prohibition failed, lack of public awareness and education was not one of them.
b***h please, 99% of all americans have no idea how harmful alcohol is nor they know how dangerous coffe and sugar are, they think they are consumming it in safe ammounts when using even a little of any of those things daily is fricking up your body.
Culture is always changing, culture is constantly changed by the goverment laws and propaganda.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Twitter girl screeching
10 months ago
Anonymous
You seem unhinged.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Culture is always changing, culture is constantly changed by the goverment laws and propaganda.
Laws and government are also shaped by culture, and short of turning into oppressive police states do not have the ability to enforce something if enough of its citizens disagree. The point is that attributing prohibitions failure to a lack of public awareness is moronic because a large, large proportion of the nation had to agree with it in order for it to pass in the first place, and it was the subject of public debate for a long time before it was passed. It was not a decree unilaterally issued by the powers that be, or pushed forward by a shadowy cabal, without the publics involvement. It was the result of a social movement decades in the making, with widespread public support.
Lots and lots of people agreed with prohibition. They thought alcohol was unhealthy, and raised awareness of it and made it look like a bad thing, just like people in Saudi Arabia beleive today. It still failed.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I mean if you take that anon seriously they think consuming "even a little" sugar a day fricks up your body, so they also want to ban fruit and milk.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>eating white sugar is like eating fruit
Sure, if you eat 20 apples a day
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's equivalent to eating over a cup of raw sugar. I don't think even Americans do that.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>It's been tried
and it worked, less people used alcohol but your corrupt media pushed that "if you continue the anti beer laws organized crime will take over the US" so you ended the law and guess what? Your country got taken over by the organized crime anyway
same will happen to weed, you will legalize it and crime will still continue so you will legalize crack and dealers will move to another drug so you will legalize every drug and they will simply move to other markets that you can't legalize like organ traffic and weapons after you inevitably approve those gun control laws
10 months ago
Anonymous
I posted that, while, it will please you to learn, I was drunk, and you're the second person to assume I'm the Great Satan or whatever thereby. What country are you from? I spot an obsession with the Americans, a dislike of them, complaints about media corruption circa 1930, strong opposition to drug use of any kind, and opposition to gun control laws; I can't place you.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I spot an obsession with the Americans, a dislike of them,
everybody >complaints about media corruption circa 1930
everybody >strong opposition to drug use of any kind
everybody but left wingers >and opposition to gun control laws
I support gun control, however not in the US, you need to fix your mentality first, your culture will lead to massive gun traffic what will lead to more violence, you are not ready to ban them not while you are ruled by gangs whoseatrocities you try to justify, your people are way too ignorant, way too emotional and the drug dealers are everywhere, you can't just pretend that you are like Europe, they are a difference race and culture, you will never be able to copy them.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>you you you you you you
Alright whatever. I can't take you seriously when you explicitly admit to being obsessed with Americans and refuse to acknowledge I'm not one.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Less people used alcohol at first, over time that number kept growing and growing. Alcohol consumption was starting to get close to pre-prohibition numbers by the time it was repealed.
Some people get too into it, sure, but that's hardly worst that being an alcoholic, I would argue much better, and honestly it hurts nobody. Don't be a c**t.
>delegalized
There are more ways to be arrested over weed once it's "legalized", i.e. the government seizes control of the industry to enrich itself. This is why unregulated trade doesn't end in "legal" states.
Anyone noticed, that when California made weed legal, things started getting a bit, off?
Like with the homelessness, minorities having bad trips, even the damned forests are getting blazed, man, so like, it's that Trump guy's fault, right?
So when I was in the state of California, lovely state by the way but the people there... Now there's good people, there's good people there, but there is also liberal scum in there, now when I was in California in one of the national parks, beautiful national parks they've got there by the way folks, you have to see it to believe it. See I was in the national park minding my own business when this young man, this funny looking young man right, who is smoking "weed", what the kids these days call a "pothead", he drops a smoldering cigarette right on the forest floor in front of me! I know folks, outrageous right? This "pothead" was starting a fire in front of me right, and I wasn't gonna let that slide, right folks, I was NOT gonna let that slide. So I went up to him and said "Buddy, the hell do you think you're doing?" And he, and I'm being honest with you folks, he jumped up, like he was shocked with a taser, he jumped up and crawled up a tree, and started screaming like a monkey, I kid you not folks, he did that. And I'm standing there confused out of my mind thinking "this is not okay" and I back away slowly, like a zookeeper with a lion, because I'll be honest with you folks I was dealing with a deranged individual, a madman, I genuinely feared for my life okay folks? You get me right? And I did the thing, you know the thing, and I backed away slowly and carefully till he climbed down and scampered into the forest like a little monkey, like a goblin.
>It's not that it's dangerous for your body or will give you cancer or anything
Smoking it is actually pretty bad for you.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5428643/
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.212611
Tl;dr - Study found 67% of tobacco smokers had emphysema, 75% of marijuana smokers had it. Also may lead pneumothorax (lung collapse)
While I don't think it should be illegal, calling it 'harmless' may not be accurate.
People who turn any hobby into their entire personality are the same. Weed, beers, collectors, gamers, car guys whatever. If you suddenly wont ever shut up about one thing everyone will hate you. Your entire personality cannot be buying a thing or doing one thing.
worst of all pothead junkies are incredibly angry, sour, bigoted and hateful people whenever they're sober
i've never met a more close minded and intolerant person than a pothead who hasn't smoked in 24 hours
>Pot makes you dumb!
Like any hallucinogen it increases neuroplasticity. It removes the filter on stimuli that lets you ignore info your subconscious deems unimportant and allows thoughts to take new and crazy paths connecting disparate concepts.
Weed doesn't make you moronic, it makes you open. For some that manifests as shitty navel-gazing philosophy but only for people that were already moronic
>It's not that it's dangerous for your body or will give you cancer or anything
Smoking it is actually pretty bad for you.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5428643/
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.212611
Tl;dr - Study found 67% of tobacco smokers had emphysema, 75% of marijuana smokers had it. Also may lead pneumothorax (lung collapse)
While I don't think it should be illegal, calling it 'harmless' may not be accurate.
>smoking it is bad for you
Smoking anything is bad for you
So far the only concerns with vaping honey oil are enlarged bronchial tubes and concerns about frontal lobe development in kids under 24
>It's not that it's dangerous for your body
It is really bad for your brain until it has fully developed. You don't need memory issues in your 20s or early 30s
The culture around weed is completely fricked. You legitmately cannot talk about the bad effects it has on people because theres always some moron who will say OKAY BUT ALCOHOL IS WORSE or somethiing akin to that and think thats a good counter argument.
I like that half the replies are seething stoners. >BROOOOOO I CAN QUIT ANYTIME I WANT >*gets into harder drugs because weed doesn't doit for him anymore* >it's not a gateway drug bro
Alcohol is also bad for you >YOU MUST BE FUN AT PARTIES
I don't like seeing dudes in their 20s with yellow skin because they have alcoholism from college parties and their liver is fricked up, thanks though.
You've never been to a party nor ever known anyone that smoked weed much less did "harder" drugs (and based on your description you'd probably call MDMA or shrooms "hard drugs")
Enjoy your misanthropy
I went to parties in college and smoked weed in college, all you homosexuals ever do is go "BUT PARTIES AND WEED BRO". Kys scum, we will see you drowned in the rivers. >misanthropy
Implies you are a person, rather than a zombie stoner wandering the streets of san francisco looking for your next hit while getting withdrawal shakes.
>You've never been to a party nor ever known anyone that smoked weed
Please enlighten us then. What does a group of stoners do besides getting into fights or having sex?
I have never had a fight amongst stoners or heard of stoners being roughhousers.
Most of the time when I smoke dope with others its because im catching up with some old coworkers from the warehouse. We talk about drama, how shit has been, vidya gaems, anything really. Chicago Billy will sometimes call and that can be 40 minutes of him going full /LULZ/ over how the random c**ts he pokes off of tinder aren’t marriage material or if he’s been hanging out with his muslim friends 40 minutes of how awful the Quaran is.
Getting him into reading philosophy was a mistake on my part, but at least he’s actually reading instead of reposting little dark age edits to me like a homosexual.
A perception that pierces. Eyes above the rest, you see a burning fire above the great mountain lesser men claim they can climb. Truly inspired and utterly amaranthine.
Liked and subbed my dude.
Anyone who makes their entire personality around a single thing especially a boring ass substance weren’t all that great people to begin with, if it wasn’t weed it’d be alcohol or funko pops or some shit
Yeah, my little cousin was like that. She'd seem normal but then all of a sudden she'd start flipping out and wouldn't say anything but "my diazepam! my diazepam!". She'd even start throwing a fit and thrashing around on the floor cause she just goooootta have her drug I guess. Anyway RIP but but it's sad to see.
I think the fact that weed isn't an immediate physical health risk is fooling a lot of smokers into thinking there's no risk at all
Aside from many documented psychological risks, weed is just bad for a culture, it makes people into slow, lazy bastards who are content with being slow lazy bastards who do nothing but remind the world that they smoke
It shouldn't be illegal, but it should be VERY stigmatized
I used to like getting high and watching shows, but now whenever I smoke I just get hyper negative towards myself and feel like I'm just wasting my life away.
I feel like you only ever get high like this a few times and then never again
It just becomes a casual bowl in the morning with coffee and then you frick off and do other shit
Just need to reset your tolerance. I was the point where it would take like 8 full dab rips to feel something, then a few weeks away and I was zooted off a pen hit.
I'm about out of weed and in a state where I can't get anymore, so I'll be feeling that again soon.
Ive been working on it. Ive been smoking a lot less because its been fricking with my memory. I only have the one bowl in the morning and two joints with friends at the end of the day
>ITT weed smokers coping with the fact that this isn't one of their California gay orgies where everyone thinks that W33D IS SOOO KEEWL BRO, and for the first time in they're life someone tells em it's actually pretty fricking lame
Are you people this easy to trigger when you're high, too, or do you need to take a hit to calm down, you addicted clowns?
Thats just the "just started smoking" zoomies. They'll get over it.
>ITT weed smokers coping with the fact that this isn't one of their California gay orgies where everyone thinks that W33D IS SOOO KEEWL BRO, and for the first time in they're life someone tells em it's actually pretty fricking lame
Are you people this easy to trigger when you're high, too, or do you need to take a hit to calm down, you addicted clowns?
>ITT weed smokers coping with the fact that this isn't one of their California gay orgies where everyone thinks that W33D IS SOOO KEEWL BRO, and for the first time in they're life someone tells em it's actually pretty fricking lame
Those are good brownies if you're feeling it in 30 minutes. Also love Marceline's reaction / wanting to catch up.
I gave up weed for my gf, I miss it so much. I was starting to need it to relax so it's probably for the best that I'm realizing that, but gd I could go for some.
If you currently smoke weed, you probably do it almost every day, unless you're in a situation where you literally physically cannot acquire anything
You'll try and argue, try and resist, try and convince me I'm wrong, but you can't lie to yourself because you know the truth and so do I, I know it, I've seen it
Every other drug user will get called an addict if they consume their poison of choice every day, but not you, no, you convinced yourself your drug is different, it's normal to want to do it every day, it's normal to feel awful when you don't consume something you don't need daily, something you never felt before you began consuming it. It's normal. You're normal. It's all those fuddy duddy "haterz" and "partykillers" and "my daaad" who tell you otherwise.
Don't try and lie to me, I know better.
Try and admit the truth to yourself.
I smoke daily, I also am in the process of buying a home to go on my 35 acre property, make 10k+ monthly and have a wife I've been with for 18 years, the mother of my three children.
Why can't you do any of those things and smoke weed every day?
It's because I'm better than you.
Don't try and lie to me, I know better.
Try and admit the truth to yourself.
>I smoke daily >My three children
The only thing worse than a drunktard father is a stoner father. Hope they'll hate you for this and learn from your addiction.
I smoked weed yesterday at a party
it had been over a year since the last time and I have never smoked every day
ruhoh guess you're just making sweeping assumptions
Even taking that into account, where are the cases of people dying from complications related to weed? Or getting into violent altercations? Or killing somebody behind the wheel?
Even when you adjust for the per capita rates, alcohol is still significantly more harmful
I think weed's worst affects are cultural, it makes people docile and lazy
The 80s were the peak of weed use in America, as well as the time when the American government enacted the most assraping laws and amped up the surveillance state because people were sleepwalking thorough life
It makes them content with being worthless and the culture surrounding it is one of complacency
Sure maybe it doesn't immediately give you cancer or cause you liver damage, but it doesn't make you wanna hold any values, do anything or fight for anything, and that's exactly what people in power want
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When's the last time you heard about 2 guys getting high and getting into a fight?
Ok to be fair I can answer that one
Like, 2 nights ago outside my house
>I think weed's worst affects are cultural, it makes people docile and lazy >The 80s were the peak of weed use in America
I hate to be the whataboutism guy but damn. You kvetch about that of all things, and not the cultural problems attributed to the crack epidemic of the 80s? Or the opioid crisis of today, how's that for "docile and lazy"?
Ofc weed has negative affects both physical and cultural, but people like you seem to single it out disproportionately not because of the examination of the drug's effects objectively, but because of the people it is associated with. Makes no more sense than disliking acid and shrooms due to their association with jobless hippies
>You kvetch about that of all things, and not the cultural problems attributed to the crack epidemic of the 80s? Or the opioid crisis of today, how's that for "docile and lazy"?
because those two are unrelated and aren't the problem discussed itt? people here are saying weed is fine, someone tells them it's not, and they go "ok but whatabout-"
that's like if i told you "dude cocaine is dangerous, remember the coke epidemic of the 50s?" and you respond with "umm but in the 50s people also gave their kids lead toys, how come youre not bothered by that!?" because youre currently doing a line of coke, not a line of lead
its context
>I think weed's worst affects are cultural, it makes people docile and lazy >The 80s were the peak of weed use in America
I hate to be the whataboutism guy but damn. You kvetch about that of all things, and not the cultural problems attributed to the crack epidemic of the 80s? Or the opioid crisis of today, how's that for "docile and lazy"?
Ofc weed has negative affects both physical and cultural, but people like you seem to single it out disproportionately not because of the examination of the drug's effects objectively, but because of the people it is associated with. Makes no more sense than disliking acid and shrooms due to their association with jobless hippies
specifically tries to link pot with the rise of the surveillance state of all things, and even now someone is trying to pin modern cultural decline on it
Fricking this, it always boils down to not liking the majority demographic who partakes. There are tons of businessmen and women who smoke but they're always overlooked purely because they don't wear tye dye and drive a van, or are ghetto hoodrats. There's no denying smoking has its downsides, but when someone comes at you like you're some of the lowest of the low for smoking pot it's easy to simply say "I haven't caved in any skulls while on pot, how many people can you say that for about alcohol?" To which it then becomes "NICE DEFLECTION BRO HOW TYPICAL".
It's never about the drug, it's always about the people associated with it, and when that point is made the shoes then on the other foot, maybe you're just a scumbag person who has never had a though that wasn't given to them by someone else, you hate Black folk because daddy always hated Black folk so on and so forth, weed is just a more socially acceptable avenue for you to express those feelings because guess what? Black folk smoke weed.
>There are tons of businessmen and women who smoke but they're always overlooked purely because they
are such an insignificant percent that they make no difference
Plus, I mean, if they're going to use the intolerable tie-dyed hippies as a negative example of weed smokers, the equivalent would be the obnoxious "friendly drunks" who are slurring their speech and yammering an inch from your face about how they're going to "show everyone". There's weirdos for every drug and vice, and most users are normal people. There are probably tons of normal cocaine users who enjoy a little cocaine every so often but don't make it their whole personality. Like you said, it's all just an excuse for prejudice because they need to push someone else down in order to lift themselves up. It's pathetic and childish, but unfortunately it's incredibly common and culturally incentivized.
I think weed's worst affects are cultural, it makes people docile and lazy
The 80s were the peak of weed use in America, as well as the time when the American government enacted the most assraping laws and amped up the surveillance state because people were sleepwalking thorough life
It makes them content with being worthless and the culture surrounding it is one of complacency
Sure maybe it doesn't immediately give you cancer or cause you liver damage, but it doesn't make you wanna hold any values, do anything or fight for anything, and that's exactly what people in power want
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Ok to be fair I can answer that one
Like, 2 nights ago outside my house
(me)
To add to this, I'm not trying to convince (you) or anyone ITT that weed is this horrible sin and you should stop using it immediately and forever, I've had me a few and it's fine if you can use it responsibly
But most smokers don't, and they're convinced its 100% safe, that it HAS no ill effects, that it's literally impossible to get addicted, or suffer health problems, especially mental ones, or that it has a cultural affect of any kind. And I just want you people to realize that's not true. Doing something responsibly means knowing the risks, not convincing yourselves that there are none. Look at all the people ITT who are coping hard convincing themselves that "i-it has no risk" "well at least alcohol is much worse" "im not addicted, at leeeast i'm not an alcoholic!" "at least" "at least-" if you have to convince yourself what you're doing is AT LEAST not as bad something else, you've already lied to yourself because it probably has a strong hold on you
Nobody is gonna take your spicy plant away, just calm down about it and admit to yourself you're more reliant than you think you are
Also ffs stop talking about it for like 5 seconds
And shower someday
>cultural decline
I don't know how much culture you yourself partake in, but I don't see anything around me degrading in any way. Perhaps the issue is your negativity bias and fear of an unknowable future you paint with fears you've learned in your past?
Hope your 35 acre home comes with a deathbed for when your lungs give out
My old man is pushing 80 and still smokes doobies daily. But yes it will, surrounded by family and friends with zero regrets. Thank you for your concern anon. <3
Here's maybe your problem: because weed is illegal or was until recently in most places, most people who use it aren't in the habit of casually chatting about it IRL. The only people who really do are potheads. From the way you're talking you seem to have gotten the impression they represent the majority of people who ever use it, and you also seem to have some emotional investment in this because stuff like: >if you have to convince yourself what you're doing is AT LEAST not as bad something else, you've already lied to yourself because it probably has a strong hold on you
isn't a rational claim. This is argumentum ad hominem - the genuine article, not like when someone calls someone else a homosexual and they get mad about it. I use weed a few times a year, at the most still in single digits. I drink far more often. Nicotine I use every day. If I say those are worse, more addictive, more physically damaging, more socially harmful drugs, what say you?
I live in the Netherlands. No one here gives a frick if you smoke weed. Just be normal about it and you're good. I've seen little old ladies walk into my local coffeeshop to buy weed, you can't tell they partake just by looking at them.
Pretty much this. It was outlawed in the US due to financial reasons, which continued and eventually grew a stigma around weed because of it. Then, at the advent of rock where counter culture started becoming norm, weed skyrocketed off of it and became a counter culture of its very own.
90% of people don't actually give a shit about you smoking recreationally the same way they don't care about you drinking recreationally. The only reason people don't want you smoking weed in public is the same reason people get pissed at you for smoking in public in general. It smells like shit and you're obnoxious about it.
Yes, and no. Yes in that it does impact you, neurochemically and biologically, it does help to relax you, it does help "focus you", but the impact is like CBD: it's so subtle that it doesn't have a massive impact on most people and so is kind of a scam. Yes, CBD can, in the right forms, be used to soothe pain, and yes, nicotine can help alleviate anxiety and improve mood, but it's just going to put a + on the grade you already have. If you have a D, a D+ might be nice, but it's not going to suddenly make you feel like a C, B, or A. And most products using them are essentially scams. Cigarettes are so addictive because of all the additives they add to the tobacco, like menthol, not because the nicotine is all that good.
Nicotine has been shown to positively impact the formation of long-term memory, which I imagine is why it forms such strong habit-based addictive tendencies. To the point that people quitting even get, like, carrot sticks or toothpicks to chew on, because the habitual action itself has such a massive positive reinforcement from the nicotine. That's why it's historically been associated with people who are studying or working, too, because it helps you to retain info and form positive feedback loops due to how it impacts your brain. It's a hell of a pit to get stuck in.
Steam is better than smoke but those tobbaco barons would probably like to put wood alcohol or something in there to cut costs or just make cigarettes seem better in comparison.
Weed vapes are safe and heavily tested
Nicotine vapes have pretty much zero regulation and the flavorants are highly toxic. Getting popcorn lung from diacetyl is fricked up
It varies state by state but any legal weed shop is going to have their products tested with batch test results online for every product, it's typically a legal requirement put in the state's legalization bill.
yeah, the amount of thc is tested, not all the garbage filler chemicals that vapes are notorious for.
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>yeah, the amount of thc is tested, not all the garbage filler chemicals that vapes are notorious for.
That's just wrong.
Dispensary cannabis vapes are as safe as you can get while still putting shit in your lungs.
Street vapes, however, will frickin' kill you. buttholes put vape juice flavors, vit E acetate, menthol, tons of bullshit in there.
I used to like getting high and watching shows, but now whenever I smoke I just get hyper negative towards myself and feel like I'm just wasting my life away.
That happened to me when I stopped working. You feel better when you smoke after you've actually accomplished something that day.
Being at a shitty point in life and getting inebriated is not fun, it just makes you hate yourself more
Ironically you're best off getting high or drunk when you're already riding the high of a satisfying and content life
>Hope your nights out are rocking.
MDMA was pretty fun, I don't think it's worth feeling weirdly discordant for a week after it though
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>Picking up from dealer in college >Pretty sure he's a skinhead >He offers me a free 8-ball and some MDMA >"No thanks I'll stick to the weed" >He says "Good call, the MDMA is cut with heroin"
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that's the nightmare scenario right there
don't do strong shit kids
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Why the frick would you cut mdma with heroin that's probably already cut with baby powder? Actually why would you even think to mix those two in the first place? It's like those idiots who mix weed and coke.
all these mofos hating on tea, but if you're only a slave to the feeling of hot drink in your mouth and not caffeine you will literally not find a better drink
I love having like 8 cups of tea when i sit down to drawgay for a day
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>I love having like 8 cups of tea when i sit down to drawgay for a day
F for your bladder.
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It's called a healthy circulation of hydration, mkay?
>if you're only a slave to the feeling of hot drink in your mouth and not caffeine >I love having like 8 cups of tea
You... know there's caffeine in tea, right?
Yup
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>if you're only a slave to the feeling of hot drink in your mouth and not caffeine >I love having like 8 cups of tea
You... know there's caffeine in tea, right?
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Not nearly as much caffeine as coffee tardo
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>75mg of caffeine per cup of tea instead of 100mg per cup of coffee >drinking 8 cups >not nearly as much
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Uh yeah dood 15 mg is a cavernous distance
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You're only getting 75mg if you're drinking the strongest of black teas or something like mate. Most black teas are somewhere between 40-60mg and almost every other type of tea has even lower amounts of caffeine than that. With green and oolong teas averaging around 30mg and white tea around 15-20.
Unless you are deliberately seeking out caffeinated teas you are getting at max like 50% of the caffeine per cup then you would from coffee.
>be college prof in weed-legal state >trying to get my class through engineering 1 >5-6 of my students show up completely baked to every lecture and lab >reeking of skunky weed, talking through lecture, bothering other students >they're all failing but refuse to drop for financial aid reasons >half my class has emailed me complaining that it's negatively affecting their ability to take notes, complete activities, etc. >can't do shit it because university has completely stripped our ability to kick out disruptive students >admins are more concerned about school getting sued by a disruptive student who has campus police called on them than they are about the disruptions
frick dudeweedbros
>can't do shit it because university has completely stripped our ability to kick out disruptive students
Damn, I shouldnt be surprised but of fricking course. That would be excluding possible pee oh cees that are too stupid to actually keep up with normal people
Why has the university taken away your ability to kick students out tf? Did they get too many protests
Also >college prof
Nice to know that some people on Cinemaphile are actually human beings with a successful life instead of gooning goblins in their mothers basement. One day I hope to advance from the latter to the former
>Why has the university taken away your ability to kick students out tf? Did they get too many protests
No, university admins just tend to be run by reactive morons. They see a handful of stories about students suing their school after getting kicked out of class (usually justifiably so) and freak out and say "shit! well we better make sure that never happens!"
>successful life
Meh, let's not suck my dick too hard. I've got a job, that's about it.
Wouldnt most cases of students unreasonably suing universities for being rightfully kicked out be thrown out of court? Thought universities had armies of lawyers >successful life
Hey, I dont have a job, a car and havent finished school even though im an adult. So compared to me youre doing a lot better
>Wouldn't most cases of students unreasonably suing universities for being rightfully kicked out be thrown out of court?
Probably, and I'm sure most are - but the admins have their buttholes clenched so hard over the fear of 'what if' that they're willing to frick shit up completely or throw people under the bus over things.
Why has the university taken away your ability to kick students out tf? Did they get too many protests
Also >college prof
Nice to know that some people on Cinemaphile are actually human beings with a successful life instead of gooning goblins in their mothers basement. One day I hope to advance from the latter to the former
Edgay here. Have your students complain up the chain of command to the dean, the president and threaten to have them take it up to regents/chancelor's office. Save documentation that you're getting complaints from studens, and that you've sent it up the chain.
Offer remote learning to the potheads.
>Why has the university taken away your ability to kick students out tf? Did they get too many protests
No, university admins just tend to be run by reactive morons. They see a handful of stories about students suing their school after getting kicked out of class (usually justifiably so) and freak out and say "shit! well we better make sure that never happens!"
>successful life
Meh, let's not suck my dick too hard. I've got a job, that's about it.
>Reactive.
Exactly. They need to be afraid of bad publicity from the other students. Students who get drug tested as part of work and students with things like breathing disabilities.
t. dealt with competing ADA claims "I need fricking weed" , "inhaling the secondhand dank triggers a asthma attack". Also tenured so I don't have to deal with that adjunct bullshit you have to.
If you REALLY want to play hardball, you can make your own OSHA or ADA or hostile work environment claim.
>weed gets mentioned in any context >300 posts of seething Americans
I'll never understand why you people are so obsessed with it. Both the people who use it and the people who don't seem so completely emotionally invested in it that it's ridiculous to beholkd from an outside perspective.
It's because blacks used it back when it was still called reefer and whites hated them for being black, so they made it illegal to frick with black people. But by then the white youths had caught on to the cool black scene and started using it too, making the old whites at the time hate the blacks that much more as they just kept doubling down on making it illegal and demonizing it in the media to the point where "weed = YOU ARE GOING TO HELL" became a cultural norm here in America. That mentality caused a lot of other problems along the way too and wasn't just a response to reefer madness.
Loads of other stuff happened, but it all boils down to spiting young people for acting rebellious.
Anyway, weed. Never done it. Never really wanted to do it. Don't care if other people are doing it so long as they aren't operating motor vehicles and I don't have to clean up after them.
>I'll never understand why you people are so obsessed with it.
as far as i undertand, it's like coming of age. when a gringo hits sixteen he must build their entire lifestyle around one drug
Dude, it's this or alcohol for most of us. Neither are a big deal and we should be allowed to enjoy them at our discretion while still in compliance with common sense laws.
but we don't give some sort of personality to potheads. in my country the idea of someone smoking everyday is not associated with some sort of lifestyle.
Anyone got silly stories from Weed Adventures?
Dumb question because most people here will lie in a bed or couch when they get stoned but I alongside my troglodyte friends do the utter opposite and go on a fricking adventure.
>Be me >With a group of 3 close friends >Probably made like 3 fat blunts and 2 really large ones >Went to the central park of the town in like 11 pm >Smoked the ever living shit out of two joints >Were about to chill in the benches when suddenly one of them goes >"Up, Up, Up. Lets go on a adventure brutha." >Everyone got up to my dismay >"Where do we go to?" >"To the 24/7 food store" >About to go down the main road, we saw the police >Tried to act normal at first but they stopped >As soon they tried to lower the cars window, We sprinted and dispersed. >We dispersed before they could chase us >I went and run to the train tracks, falling several times before I arrived to the bridge. >I remained hidden under the bridge for like 10 minutes >One of my friends calls me >I ask if they're alright and they tell me they just barely made it out >I ask them If they're all there >Only one missing >"Frick" >Wanted to regroup with my friends and search for the missing one >I was walking down the outer roads of the town >I see the missing friend eating two sandwiches >"Motherfricker where were you?" >"To the 24/7 food store" >This guy fled the police >hid in the food store >bought some food >Went all the way to the outer parts of the city to eat some sandwiches >But he also bought two sandwiches for each one of us >Called the other friend group where they were >They were at a gas station literally 10 kilometers away >Had to walk that entire road to get to them >Upon arriving they just stare at me and say >"We got four more blunts bro"
Every time I hear someone talk about weed smokers like their some smelly scooby doo parody I assume they very rarely socialize. Most people you meet that smoke weed you can't actually tell.
Depends on how much I'm exposed to them. If it's a chance meeting with just some stranger or something (which isn't frequent for me if I'm honest) then you might be right.
However when it comes to neighbors or friends of friends? It becomes pretty apparent pretty quick. Particularly neighbors around where I live since in my city it's been decriminalized. Technically the building I'm in is supposed to be smoke-free but more than a couple people just ignore that.
>SIR leaves Cinemaphile because it became an unfunny porn addict shithole >still comes back to appease Cinemaphile with another unfunny new years comic
I lost all respect for him when he reappeared. He should have stayed gone and let the DYEL invel board starve
I never understood why leftists want to normalize the drugs and cannabis consumption so much, specially when it's been demonstrated that it's consumption affects negatively the correct function and development of brain cells, specially on adolescents and young adults.
Isn't Finn literally a teenage for most part of the show?
Anyway if they didn't wanted kids to do drugs then why use cartoons aimed at children to promote it's use and show how "cool it is"?
>I never understood why leftists want to normalize the drugs and cannabis consumption so much, specially when it's been demonstrated that it's consumption affects negatively the correct function and development of brain cells, specially on adolescents and young adults.
They want to turn people's brains to one single mushy consistency so they can homosexually rape adolescent males without resistance like Jeffrey Dahmer tried with corrosive acid.
Or it's nothing to do with wanting people to use more drugs and it's an easily researched subject that if you genuinely cared about you could inform yourself on easily, if you have any more intelligence than a wooden post. I mean frick me, the youngest generation of leftists are such squares a lot of them won't even drink alcohol.
>Also it's use across the history by different groups of criminals and mass murderers to make them desensitized of violence like Nazaris or hashashins
Considering how lethargic it makes people i'm surprised they got out of bed to carry out assasinations at all, probably why they got wiped out in the end
i have a dry herb vape thats pretty cool, you load it like a bong but its a lot easier to pull, its an expensive first buy but it saves u bud in the long one
Yes, all those things are fine in moderation. But moderation just means without being excessive, and for many thing, such as genocide, even just once is excessive.
I mean technically genocide in moderation is just ethnic cleansing or war crimes. Its why Turkey and Japan are coping, none of them (except the really moronic) are saying that not a single Armenian or Korean was killed, they are saying that it was just standard war time atrocities and that it doesnt reach the level of genocide, because if they admitted genocide the UN would make them pay reparations.
So yes you can literally genocide in moderation.
only if you by default accept the premise that "whiteness" is the "normal" setting and anything not-white is a stain on that, so I guess if you're a white supremacist than sure
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Its funny how leftists believe this as well, what with them seeing "whiteness" as the boring default and every other culture as zoo animals to be protected. Guess horseshoe theory is real
I mean complete cultural conquest like that is still a bad thing even if you dont think it reaches the degree of genocide. Same as the Ottoman empire hiring turkish, arab, kurdish, chechen, circassian (and in some cases armenian) warbands to expel the Armenian and Assyrian citizenry from Anatolia and Mesopotamia because they were sympathetic to the Russians and kill any stragglers and starve them in the Syrian desert and destroy their culture is still bad even if it doesnt technically reach genocide.
they're just mad because you have a tool for accessing temporary but genuine happiness, something they try hard every day to brush at and are denied because it's not profitable to allow the public to be happy. You've got the ability to smoke a little weed and watch old spongebob squarepants episodes on youtube and have a wonderful afternoon and they're angrily doomscrolling and being so upset by "the libs" that they shit their pants. It's sad, honestly. Their souls are constipated.
I will say this:
There’s nothing better than watching a cartoon/anime when heavily intoxicated.
Like one time after work in the parking lot my manager at Panera let me hit a weed pen, the strain was a strong, I believe it was called Jack.
Anyway, on the drive home I began eating entire orange scones one by one and I began to see visions of cartoons. I then found myself watching the ape scene in 2001 at a parking lot, then I went home and began watching Fooly Cooly and it somehow made the anime even better, it just looked weirder, but strangely it felt more alive, like these weren’t anime characters but rather actual actors in a movie. The best part is, unlike with drinking alcohol where you feel like shut in the morning, I felt like a million bucks in the morning, fricking love weed
Not gonna reply to the whole thread but here's my two cents.
I tried weed when I was 18. It respec'd all my stat points into charisma. Within 2 years I'd beaten my anxiety and gotten laid. I'll readily admit it's a dependency now 11 years later, but it's the lesser evil. The alternative was either being one of you lugubrious morons or killing myself 3 years ago
was gonna make love to you but then I got high (ooh) (I'm serious)
I was gonna eat your pussy too (ohhh) but then I got high
Now I'm jackin' off (BWAHHHHHHHHH) and I
Know why (turn this shit off, ha ha ha)
Cause I’m high, because I’m high, because I’m high
The only drug that should be legal is coffee. Anything else should be outlawed. The narcotics industry and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Imagine smoking weed or drinking alcohol when you could be doing opium or crack
Oh yeah man, full CHADMAXXED over here. None of that PUSSY SHIT.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ffMM-ek9YlQ
No lie if opioids weren’t the worst drugs in the world, I would gladly puff these fricking things
Booze ends up being worse damage wise, both while abusing and when trying to get off. I only say this because booze is also totally legal in most parts of the world.
>they're not, since they smoke weed mental illness is a given. Imagine needing to slowly kill your brain as the only way to be happy.
Great fricking way outing yourself as a depressed frick who can't understand that even happy people need to take the edge off in this stressful world. They're all younger then me and yet are gonna finish collage before me and be more successful. I'm lonely compared too them and I for sure have more mental issues then them, I'm still not over my high school crush, I'm a troony and (my doctors know about this) I have pedophilia.
Not a troll, just don't like people who hate drugs for stupid reasons. I did debate putting in the pedophilia part (could have gone with some other awful shit I have like vore), it's just a part of me that I really hate. It's just there for some reason, at odds with the person I want to be. I wish I could erase it from my mind.
I guess first time is always the hardest, I felt like I was in a rollercoaster, I could feel like wind touching my face even though I was indoors watching a boring as frick movie.
Pushing the "um it's the WORST thing for you" narrative is equally disingenuous. At worst it makes you lazy and unambitious and nearly every other recreational drug on the market including alcohol is more detrimental physically and mentally by leaps and bounds. The modern argument in its entirety is just the sixty year old story of red-blooded conservatives vs floaty stoner hippies, more than half a century later and the only thing that's changed is half the arguments are made in memes now.
It not being nearly as bad for you as alcohol is also honestly besides the point if you're trying to make a legal argument.
The practical legal argument is that, much like alcohol, it's simply too popular and too easy to produce to effectively prohibit. Attempts at prohibition merely invigorates the black market and drains tax income both by reducing the size of the legal economy and by spending money on enforcement and jail stays.
news flash: tons of cults use temperance as a control measure or recruiting tactic and /misc/ is right here
There's a reason the term straight-edge is associated with skinheads.
When I was a kid I avoided weed because it was something kids I didn't like did at parties and so I associated it with them - when I got older I realized "hey, wait, buttholes like good things too, I can't deny myself something because some dickhead also likes it"
Had great fun smoking like mad in college and now I use pens to treat my auto-immune pain and discomfort.
It's really weird to see kids today get tricked into going from a vague dislike of what the popular kids do to weird culty shit like nofap or straight-edge
well the funny thing about that is that you're not wrong that that's used as an excuse to get high recreationally, but that's ignoring that a lot of that "man, everybody would want to get high and do nothing" is a manifestation of chronic stress and anxiety that has become so normalized we no longer even call it that. A healthy person WANTS to do stuff and be a part of something bigger than themselves and to care for other people, and all the casual cruelty and cynicism and selfishness that you perceive as a normal default for humanity is the sociocultural equivalent of vomiting up blood. You just think that being filled with tumors is normal, and EVERYONE vomits up blood, and wanting not to vomit up blood is wishful thinking pipe dreams, and actually it's morally righteous to vomit up blood, et cetera.
Glad someone else posted rat park. It's really interesting into the functions of addiction from a social level. What I found interesting was that rats with normal enrichment socially and physically would simply leave it, even if they were already hooked on it.
>What I found interesting was that rats with normal enrichment socially and physically would simply leave it, even if they were already hooked on it.
Problem with humans is that even completely removed from all external factors, abusing drugs fricks up your life and puts you into a position where you're more likely to want to do them to feel better.
It's a problem that causes itself.
The one that abhors the real world, personalities, and politics. If you did not come here for perspectives divorced from people and their bias then you came here to jerk off. Any other reason and you're just an butthole out of place. >but what about all those homosexuals that are just liek me?!1?
Yeah, I noticed. Go b***h on your blog about it.
>The one that abhors the real world, personalities, and politics. If you did not come here for perspectives divorced from people and their bias
The end result is not some space of free-thinking and constructive discourse, it just becomes a seedbed for different kinds of biases, given the posts ITT just using the topic to feel superior over filthy druggies
>ITT bitter incels who've never hung out with potheads for longer than 5 cumulative minutes try to get a hit of dopamine by baiting someone into replying to their schizophrenic manbaby ad hominem
>comes into thread telling people what to do
Could you fricking slow your god damn roll dude? Like holy frick. Who the frick are you dude? Holy shit are you being fricking serious right now?
Trying to toke up on these phat drug stats and your weird ass has to stumble on in like you're part of fricking NARC or some shit.
It is a self-deception of philosophers and moralists to imagine that they escape decadence by opposing it.
That is beyond their will; and, however little they acknowledge it, one later discovers that they were among the most powerful promoters of decadence.
I wish the entire discourse about weed and drugs in general wasn't so dishonest from both sides.
Fear campaigning from the government made potheads and other drug enjoyers just go full force against what the goobernmemt told them to be true and won't accept any criticism towards their drug.
There are real dangers which should be taken seriously with every drug. You can become addicted to ANY drug. Just handwaiving these things is just as dishonest as the fear campaigning.
>You can become addicted to ANY drug
depends heavily on what you mean by addiction
a large part of the discourse being so muddy is conflation and poor definitions
Being dependent on alcohol to not get the shakes or needing methadone to not die is not the same as being irritable when you stop smoking weed
I think both are addictions and to the normal person who never dives deeper into these things that would also be true.
Sure you can dig real deep into what the definition of "addiction" truly holds but having a physical dependancy to just function normally (the shakes) and being irritable when you stop smoking weed (mental addiction/habitual addiction) are both just another form of the same thing.
I honestly think that when you have to dive so deep into a semantics argument that its just not intellectually honest. When we say "addiction" this is what most people understand by that.
>I think both are addictions
That's the problem...
They both fit under a very vague umbrella while being very different things. They are not at all the same, but they are conflated as if they are. This is both a common mistake by amateur debaters and a common tactic of disingenuous proselytizers. >They're another form of the same thing
No, they're really not. Not conceptually or physically. That's the point. They're just called the same thing.
>By trying to establish operational definitions instead of accepting wanton conflation you're intellectually dishonest
Haha holy shit
Get fricked moron
>if we make a semantics argument, that makes me right
You never talk to actual people, do you anon, all of your arguments are online and usually are both sides trying to play a sort of logical "gotcha" game with one another.
Its pretty sad to see reddit level of argumentation everywhere nowadays
But sure buddy, you can have won this one if its so important to you
>You're making a semantic argument!
I'm pointing out your faulty conflation you tool.
The physical difference between life-threatening chemical dependency and desiring consumption is extremely relevant to the topic.
You're a fricking moron, my dude.
>physical dependency vs. mental/habitual addiction
This is neither a deep semantic dive nor an airy-fairy distinction without relevance to the treatment of addiction.
There are no dangers to weed. Like, there are actually lots of benefits to it, even. It’s been proven to, uhm, kill? certain kinds of like cancer, y’know.
>zamn what kinda weed he got
i dunno about that anon, but i got an edible with me home from a college party, ate half of it and spent the night in the bathroom watching youtube videos as my last cling to reality and creeping anxiety
I also felt a tinge of anxiety off a couple of puffs from a dewbie, i think some people just default to anxiety attacks when they partake in dudeweed
>as he curls up with a podcast on the floor and shakes for two hours
zamn what kinda weed he got
Inhaled cannabis hits the brain as delta 9 thc
Eaten cannabis goes through the liver first and hits the brain as 11-hydroxy-thc
Different drugs. Different effects.
11-hydroxy-thc is much more sedating and intoxicating than delta 9 thc
Did you know that there are anesthetics so strong that they numb you to all these small chronic pains you develop as you grow old? Not major pains, but stuff you don't think about getting used to as you grow up, like the weight distribution in your bones, muscles that are sore from always being in use, even your heart beat and blood pumping. People report coming back from those anesthetics having to relearn getting used to those small pains again. People just get used to pain, physically, but psychologically too. People with hard lives - not destructive, just difficult- can end up handling stress much better than others who've had an easier time up until some disaster.
So imagine if every day you subject yourself to a little more pain, fear, suffering, not enough to break you, but enough to get used to it.
You ever walk in the woods at night with no fear in your heart? Now that's a high worth having.
confusing, futilely trying to get your bearings as the world constantly shifts around you
imagine turning around in a room and see that all the furniture behind you has been replaced and moved around
confusing, futilely trying to get your bearings as the world constantly shifts around you
imagine turning around in a room and see that all the furniture behind you has been replaced and moved around
You're perfectly welcome not to get high but why are you speculating about it based on your dreams?
Cannabis I think is technically a hallucinogen, but normal recreational use doesn't produce hallucinogenic or delusory effects - if you've ever been drunk, that's a much closer comparison than a dream, although it's still not particularly similar.
The first time I ever smoked weed, I had psychedelic visions of a red-and-white checkered world made of buckles and velcro, approaching DMT-like hallucinations. I have never had that effect happen again. I've done psychedelics including DMT and other hallucinogens like salvia and deleriants like Benadryl (don't do Benadryl) and hypnotics like Fly Agaric and they all felt different than that first weed trip. very strange
This phenomenon of having psychedelic effects during the first weed experience and then never again is somewhat common too
>This phenomenon of having psychedelic effects during the first weed experience and then never again is somewhat common too
I never had anything like psychedelic effects the first time I took weed or any other time, but it wasn't the first drug I took, which I suspect it was for most people (I mean after the obvious ones). I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
yes and then you can go dig your grave and sleep in it in a sleeping bag, because won't that be so convenient, since people statistically tend to die in their sleep more nowadays? Man, when you render down human experience down to the purely efficient and logical, this shit is easy!
learn how to read. I didn't say "not consuming intoxicants is the same as dying" I said "denying yourself the pleasures of the flesh and reducing your every interaction to the purely necessary is a recipe for depression and isolation, and you might as well already be dead". But go off, I guess. You c**t.
boy you can just throw any armchair psychology terms you like at the wall and just see what sticks, huh? You gonna call something "projection"? You going to refer to social darwinism and "evolutionary incentive"? Pop psych nonsense designed to make you seem ever-so-slightly-smarter than the people reading your comment, but doesn't actually match the content being discussed?
I didn't "cope backtrack" anything. I explained exactly what I said, again, because you have a learning disability, and now you have to recontextualize it in order to seem like you're still right. You're a fricking child.
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Oof, buzzwords just 5 words in. Can anyone translate this into english?
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Anonymous
>Oof, buzzwords just 5 words in.
If you read their post to the end, you'd be proving him right.
That's my slightly-less-sarcastic-than-it-should-be pitch for cannibalism. Like, obviously the answer isn't *actually* cannibalism, but it's important philosophically to recognize that in our current context we literally are the number one threat to the planet. That doesn't mean we need to die off, ecofascists are short-sighted morons, but it's necessary to understand as one of the tiny watch-gears in your understanding of the world and our place in it.
>like six or seven
He should be puking his guts out by an hour.
Finn has very high constitution.
You know "pot brownie" isn't a metric unit, right?
Still. 7 fricking brownies.
>I'm a square who has never tried a pot brownie
You will never find a brownie product that consider each brownie less then one serving.
Gib robot chicken wife
I never understood why weed was delegalized until I started listening to potheads speak
It's not that it's dangerous for your body or will give you cancer or anything, it just turns people into obnoxious morons who can't talk or think about anything besides weed
It's bad for the soul
if booze is legal there ain't no reason pot shouldn't be legal
i see where youre coming from, but most alcohol drinkers know it's bad for them, can admit when they have an addiction, and don't base their entire life and personality around ''dude weed lmao'', or, when someone tells them they have a problem, they dont go "ok but umm ummm ummmmm WHATABOUT THOSE OTHER GUYS?"
>people being obnoxious are worse than people who get chronic health problems and can potentially cause lethal accidents
>suddenly every alcoholic drink's and drives
>but pot doesn't make you dangerous behind the wheel at all
stoner logic
Potheads are some of the most annoying people I've ever met
I've known many casual drinkers, most of them very responsible people
I've not known a single casual pothead who doesn't smoke at least 5 times a week and isn't unbelievably annoying at all times, both when they're high, and when they're sober telling us how high they're gonna get and guys didja know they smoke weed? they smoke weed, guys! weed, bro! everyone has to know i smoke that plant! the mr iguana! the big whacky lettuce, bros! did everyone hear? i smoke weeeeeeeeeeeeed!
Not to mention that potheads are seemingly unaware of the fact that they reek
We're just used to the smell.
Yes, potheads are annoying, but none of them killed my family because they were 'so high dude'.
https://nationalpost.com/news/dad-charged-after-baby-dies-in-hot-car-police-suspect-he-smoked-pot
https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Child-hit-and-killed-in-Canon-City-driver-reportedly-tried-to-get-the-child-help-567215681.html
Compared to what? The hundreds of times that happens a day with drunks? Post about it when a billion dollar recovery industry needs to be implemented because so many lives are ruined by pot annually.
>why are teenagers and wayward 20 somethings so sexually active
Well anon-kun, when a young man and a young woman love each other very much.....
>Well anon-kun, when a young man and a young woman love each other very much...
More like a group of young men and young women in the same room together
Tomato tomato.
Pot literally does not make you noticably worse at driving unless you have smoked an ungodly amount of weed, there have been some studies.
>Some studies
>Source: trust me bro
Studies suggest neither does alcohol until you consume a very large amount
I live in a pot effectively legal state, so this affects my survival directly, so I decided to check it out.
First CRITICAL fricking problem: There is no equivalent to a BAC check, portable breathalyzer, ect, so you're trusting that "ungodly amount of weed" standard to a pothead who's fricking impaired. The only standard right now anywhere in use requires a blood test, and is primarily applied after felonies for an additional frick that dumbass. That standard is somewhere in the 2-5 nanograms per milliliter. "normal" levels found in drivers is in the 100-200 nanograms per milliliter, which drops off quickly after use. it's also not 100 percent related to imparment.
NONE of the fricking marijuana activists have any serious research for any fricking practical guidance on "how long should you wait after smoking a fat one before driving", like we have for alcohol. NORML's approach is to throw nonstop "the tests don't work", "booze is worse", "benzos are worse", "not sleeping is worse", "the drugs stay in your system longer so the test isn't accurate".
In closing, I'd like to say that the anons "ungodly amount of weed " seems to be 4 fricking puffs, so I'm going to ask for that anon to be shit on as a fricking lightweight.
>how long should you wait after smoking a fat one before driving
Its hard to get it down to a science because weed effects different people differently.
>Its hard to get it down to a science because weed effects different people differently.
...and so does fricking alcohol. So the guidelines are adjustable for a shot of jack daniels on a skinny girl than for a light beer for a 300 pound bear.
The THC in products is now independently tested and listed on packaging. There is NO good reason why we shouldn't have some fricking range of hours that's based on actual testing and science now.
>You can't test blood levels
So? If someone is so impaired that their driving is impacted they can be grabbed for reckless driving.
>There's no research on cannabis and driving!
There's tons. It shows that cannabis doesn't significantly impact habitual users beyond a DECREASE in avg speed and increase in defensive driving as users overcompensate for perceived deficits. Reaction times are not significantly impaired.
tl;dr it's literally not a problem unless you're a c**t working for the police struggling to find bullshit ways to write tickets and persecute minorities
I have academic credentials and just did a fast sweep of peer reviewed journals AND fricking lexis nexus.
What's the highest quality shit you have that gives the pot equivalent of an under the influence calculator for alcohol? The growers have been working on making stronger shit for decades, so we know they have SOME sense of "this shit fricks people up more".
's no research on cannabis and driving!
Not what I said. I said the research is fricking garbage at giving people practical advice.
Habitual users should wait X hours after taking Y. Casual and rec users should wait Z hours after taking A.
>What's the highest quality shit you have that gives the pot equivalent of an under the influence calculator for alcohol
It doesn't exist because most of the impacts of cannabis are subjective, tolerance varies wildly, and set/setting/strain tend to matter more than raw THC content. Attempts to correlate hard numbers like reaction time or even things like course completion time and error % to ingested mg or blood levels have failed miserably (though reaction time is apparently not significantly slowed).
The best advice that can be given is "don't drive if you don't feel capable of it." From the few studies I've seen that had actual driving tests the people that were too impaired to drive safely were first-time users that couldn't find their feet at the time.
I'd also just like to reiterate that the mechanism of the drugs is kind of important here. Ethanol is a depressant that effectively slows and inhibits your CNS, hence the clear and dose-dependent impacts on things like reaction time.
Cannabis can have minor effects in all four categories (depressant, stimulant, dissocative, hallucinogen) but is primarily a hallucinogen working purely on the cannabinoid system as opposed to directly slowing or speeding up the CNS
>every alcoholic drinks and drives
Yes. If they are an ALCHOHOLIC they drink and drive. That's what it means to be a daily drinker. You are comparing apples and oranges here.
And weed can't?
You cant smoke pot until you go blind, it doesn't inhibit your ability to drive to a point, and although a heroic dose of weed can frick you up for a while, you cannot literally die from blazing it too much in one go. Alchohol is literally poisoning yourself for fun, while weed is a moderately harmless drug in comparison that shifts your perception. Is it bad in excess, and dependacy forming? Maybe for some, but a dependancy on weed won't have nearly as disasterous an effect on one as an alchohol dependancy as stated above. The underlying problem for any drug dependency is not getting assistance for the problems that make you rely on the drug in the first place, and while both weed and alchohol can make you forget your problems, neither can solve them. Unless your problem is that you don't have enough weed.
smoking is still poison
Everything has a loud, obnoxious fanbase who takes things too far. Weed, coffee, booze, video games, everything.
Alcohol isn't illegal, so this is a pretty lame argument
This is dumb. Alcoholics are worse than potheads and there are more of them.
Not to mention, alcohol is advertised way more heavily.
amazing how all the replies are offended potheads going WELL WHAT ABOUT ALCOHOLICS
> can admit when they have an addiction
self-deprecating boomer jokes like "lol need my drinkey teehee" is not actually admitting that you have a problem. You're fricking moronic if you think a majority of alcoholics aren't in denial about how bad their addiction is
>don't base their entire life and personality around ''dude weed lmao''
If you are a severe alcoholic the withdrawal symptoms from not drinking can kill you. The literally have to base their entire life around drinking because not doing so actively puts their life at risk
maybe if alcoholics took a break from beating their wife and kids and killing people in car accidents then people wouldn't be so quick to point out how they're significantly worse than people who are mildly annoying at worst
>maybe if alcoholics
Its like clockwork
>alcoholic unable to confront their own problems
I wonder why you took up drinking hmm?
I dont drink alcohol. I just find it funny you guys cant defend yourselves on your own without immediately going to alcohol
Theyd be wrong, if they want to defend motorcycles they first have to defend motorcycles on its own and then start talking about things that they consider more dangerous then motorcycles, because if they immediately jump to cars then they have admitted defeat and are trying to distract by pointing at something else
Imagine if you were talking shit about people who ride motorcycles, saying they should be illegal because they're loud and obnoxious and make people too lazy to walk places anymore. How long do you think it'd be before someone brought up cars?
You're delusional. You think people obsessed with booze isn't as prevalent because it's the norm. Imagine if it was normal to go to a fancy restaurant and ask to see the weed list. Yes there are obnoxious people who wont shut the frick up about weed but our entire society wont shut the frick up about booze.
My brother died because he was driving home from a bar drunk and crashed, and now every year on his birthday my family makes a toast to him by making his favorite drink. They honer his memory by literally drinking the exact thing that killed him, it doesn't even cross their mind that that's weird because if it was any other day they'd just be drinking different booze anyway.
>but most alcohol drinkers know it's bad for them, can admit when they have an addiction
Most alcoholics adamantly refuse to admit they're alcoholics.
>most alcohol drinkers know it's bad for them, can admit when they have an addiction, and don't base their entire life and personality around ''dude weed lmao''
you sound extremely sheltered, there are SO FRICKING MANY people who do this for alcohol
>t. never been around alcoholics
Or you're a delusional one yourself. Holy shit what a dumb ass opinion. I don't even know how to respond to this load of horseshit but I know alcoholics, been around them my whole life and I just know you just spouted the worst factless opinion ever to have. Kind of fricking insulting. And I'm on rehab from weed & alcohol, clean since july.
I see you've never spoken to an IPA guy
lmao, no one who has ever had a night out downtown can say alcoholics are not obnoxious with a striaght face
>most alcohol drinkers know it's bad for them
what fricking planet do you live on
this, just ask most people that drink for fun once per week with their friends if they know they are likely going to develop dementia at their 60s, they think this shit is harmless if they are not drinking themselves to death like a hobo.
You think that's bad. Try asking your coffee-drinking friends if they know that the most common cause of death among caffeine users is heart disease.
The most common cause of death among everyone is heart disease
Yeah OK but EVERYONE who drinks caffeine dies, did you know that?
Studies have shown that people who already have severely high blood pressure double their risk of heart attacks and death by drinking coffee, but people who are currently healthy and drink coffee actually have reduced risk of developing new heart disease.
Booze also should be illegal, yes.
I'm just wondering why do you think the fair solution is to outlaw alcohol rather than legalize weed
He's trolling
Nta but I think booze should be banned. It's bad for the brain. Serves zero purpose but to harm you. It is on the same level as hormones for trannies: it makes you feel good, but destroys your body.
It's been tried, I would be not at all surprised might be information to you.
>I would be not at all surprised might be information to you.
Am I moronic or does this not make any sense? Anyway, we should at least increase the drinking age to like, 25 or something since that's when the brain is done
You aren't if it's a dialect or grammar issue.
>It's been tried[;] I would be not at all surprised [that] might be [new] information to you.
a bullet through the brain is a lot worse than any amount of alcohol, and we let kids join the military when they're 17
Then raise that too.
>muh young soldiers argument
Countries have no choice but recruit young people otherwise the average soldier age would be so high the army wouldn't work at all due to soldiers having no stamina and retiring way too early, also it's far easier to learn a new lifestyle when you are young.
The military likes 'em young because they're easier to break in, more malleable. A 17 or 18 year old isn't physically as strong as a 25 year old, but they're not mentally as strong either.
Just because USA failed to make it illegal does not mean it shouldn't, Saudi Arabia and North Korea made it illegal and crime didn't skyrocket like happened in the USA
You made it illegal without raising awareness on why it should be illegal to begin with so people refused to follow the law, they didn't know how fricked up alcohol is.
You're right, we should follow Saudi Arabia and North Korea's examples in how we order our society.
You say that, but north korea is considered "based" on the internet these days
Ok, Kim.
Kim will end "wokeness", i'm telling ya
>Saudi Arabia and North Korea made it illegal
Saudi Arabia and NK are also notorious shitholes that are controlled by tinydicked despots.
Salman has a tiny dick, but Kim Jong Un's dick is so big, you wouldn't believe how big it is if he didn't have men standing by to shoot you if you didn't.
>You made it illegal without raising awareness on why it should be illegal to begin with so people refused to follow the law, they didn't know how fricked up alcohol is.
You're moronic.
The temperance movement was a century fricking old at that point, local governments and even entire states had passed their own versions of prohibition before the ban, and it was a constitutional amendment which needs a 2/3s majority in congress in order to even be proposed and then must be ratified by at least 3/4 of the states. People knew what the arguments for prohibition were. It had been part of public discussion for decades, and the act of drinking was itself fast becoming a political issue. There are many reasons prohibition failed, lack of public awareness and education was not one of them.
Now I don't know anything about Saudi Arabias ban on alcohol, but I do know that it has a very different culture than the US, and that Islam encourages temperance when it comes to drink and other mind altering drugs. So if I had to guess why it's worked there I'd say it's because alcohol likely never had as much prevelance as it did in America, making it easier to ban.
>alcohol likely never had as much prevelance as it did in America, making it easier to ban
This is very true. It's also true that if you try to sell alcohol on the black market, they'll cut your head off in the public square.
>Now I don't know anything about Saudi Arabias ban on alcohol, but I do know that it has a very different culture than the US
Why do you think they developed their culture to hate alcohol? Because they hate fun? No because they realized this shit is not healthy, they raised awareness on it, they made alcohol look like a bad thing meanwhile americans thought drinking was part of the american lifestyle or some stupid shit. The only thing making anti weed laws work is the culture on hating it.
>There are many reasons prohibition failed, lack of public awareness and education was not one of them.
b***h please, 99% of all americans have no idea how harmful alcohol is nor they know how dangerous coffe and sugar are, they think they are consumming it in safe ammounts when using even a little of any of those things daily is fricking up your body.
Culture is always changing, culture is constantly changed by the goverment laws and propaganda.
>Twitter girl screeching
You seem unhinged.
>Culture is always changing, culture is constantly changed by the goverment laws and propaganda.
Laws and government are also shaped by culture, and short of turning into oppressive police states do not have the ability to enforce something if enough of its citizens disagree. The point is that attributing prohibitions failure to a lack of public awareness is moronic because a large, large proportion of the nation had to agree with it in order for it to pass in the first place, and it was the subject of public debate for a long time before it was passed. It was not a decree unilaterally issued by the powers that be, or pushed forward by a shadowy cabal, without the publics involvement. It was the result of a social movement decades in the making, with widespread public support.
Lots and lots of people agreed with prohibition. They thought alcohol was unhealthy, and raised awareness of it and made it look like a bad thing, just like people in Saudi Arabia beleive today. It still failed.
I mean if you take that anon seriously they think consuming "even a little" sugar a day fricks up your body, so they also want to ban fruit and milk.
>eating white sugar is like eating fruit
Sure, if you eat 20 apples a day
That's equivalent to eating over a cup of raw sugar. I don't think even Americans do that.
>It's been tried
and it worked, less people used alcohol but your corrupt media pushed that "if you continue the anti beer laws organized crime will take over the US" so you ended the law and guess what? Your country got taken over by the organized crime anyway
same will happen to weed, you will legalize it and crime will still continue so you will legalize crack and dealers will move to another drug so you will legalize every drug and they will simply move to other markets that you can't legalize like organ traffic and weapons after you inevitably approve those gun control laws
I posted that, while, it will please you to learn, I was drunk, and you're the second person to assume I'm the Great Satan or whatever thereby. What country are you from? I spot an obsession with the Americans, a dislike of them, complaints about media corruption circa 1930, strong opposition to drug use of any kind, and opposition to gun control laws; I can't place you.
>I spot an obsession with the Americans, a dislike of them,
everybody
>complaints about media corruption circa 1930
everybody
>strong opposition to drug use of any kind
everybody but left wingers
>and opposition to gun control laws
I support gun control, however not in the US, you need to fix your mentality first, your culture will lead to massive gun traffic what will lead to more violence, you are not ready to ban them not while you are ruled by gangs whoseatrocities you try to justify, your people are way too ignorant, way too emotional and the drug dealers are everywhere, you can't just pretend that you are like Europe, they are a difference race and culture, you will never be able to copy them.
>you you you you you you
Alright whatever. I can't take you seriously when you explicitly admit to being obsessed with Americans and refuse to acknowledge I'm not one.
Less people used alcohol at first, over time that number kept growing and growing. Alcohol consumption was starting to get close to pre-prohibition numbers by the time it was repealed.
Because both of them are bad for you?
Have you heard anybody talk while drunk?
Some people get too into it, sure, but that's hardly worst that being an alcoholic, I would argue much better, and honestly it hurts nobody. Don't be a c**t.
>delegalized
There are more ways to be arrested over weed once it's "legalized", i.e. the government seizes control of the industry to enrich itself. This is why unregulated trade doesn't end in "legal" states.
So they basically become Randy Marsh then.
Anyone noticed, that when California made weed legal, things started getting a bit, off?
Like with the homelessness, minorities having bad trips, even the damned forests are getting blazed, man, so like, it's that Trump guy's fault, right?
So when I was in the state of California, lovely state by the way but the people there... Now there's good people, there's good people there, but there is also liberal scum in there, now when I was in California in one of the national parks, beautiful national parks they've got there by the way folks, you have to see it to believe it. See I was in the national park minding my own business when this young man, this funny looking young man right, who is smoking "weed", what the kids these days call a "pothead", he drops a smoldering cigarette right on the forest floor in front of me! I know folks, outrageous right? This "pothead" was starting a fire in front of me right, and I wasn't gonna let that slide, right folks, I was NOT gonna let that slide. So I went up to him and said "Buddy, the hell do you think you're doing?" And he, and I'm being honest with you folks, he jumped up, like he was shocked with a taser, he jumped up and crawled up a tree, and started screaming like a monkey, I kid you not folks, he did that. And I'm standing there confused out of my mind thinking "this is not okay" and I back away slowly, like a zookeeper with a lion, because I'll be honest with you folks I was dealing with a deranged individual, a madman, I genuinely feared for my life okay folks? You get me right? And I did the thing, you know the thing, and I backed away slowly and carefully till he climbed down and scampered into the forest like a little monkey, like a goblin.
>It's not that it's dangerous for your body or will give you cancer or anything
Smoking it is actually pretty bad for you.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5428643/
https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/radiol.212611
Tl;dr - Study found 67% of tobacco smokers had emphysema, 75% of marijuana smokers had it. Also may lead pneumothorax (lung collapse)
While I don't think it should be illegal, calling it 'harmless' may not be accurate.
This. People like to rationalize laws by morality or protection of people, but the real reason is you just want to see people you hate behind bars.
People who turn any hobby into their entire personality are the same. Weed, beers, collectors, gamers, car guys whatever. If you suddenly wont ever shut up about one thing everyone will hate you. Your entire personality cannot be buying a thing or doing one thing.
worst of all pothead junkies are incredibly angry, sour, bigoted and hateful people whenever they're sober
i've never met a more close minded and intolerant person than a pothead who hasn't smoked in 24 hours
A pothead who hasn't smoked in 48 hours gets the reefer madness and just starts killing people.
unironically potheads are more likely to be serial killers
Compared to what? Tea drinkers?
compared to human beings
To mentally sane people
Only because smoking pot leads to devil worship.
potheads are more likely to be unempathetic and have psychosis
Because they listen to rock and roll. It's like everyone says, weed is the gateway drug.
>Pot makes you dumb!
Like any hallucinogen it increases neuroplasticity. It removes the filter on stimuli that lets you ignore info your subconscious deems unimportant and allows thoughts to take new and crazy paths connecting disparate concepts.
Weed doesn't make you moronic, it makes you open. For some that manifests as shitty navel-gazing philosophy but only for people that were already moronic
>smoking it is bad for you
Smoking anything is bad for you
So far the only concerns with vaping honey oil are enlarged bronchial tubes and concerns about frontal lobe development in kids under 24
>Stoners deserve conviction because they annoy me
Found the boomer.
>It's not that it's dangerous for your body
It is really bad for your brain until it has fully developed. You don't need memory issues in your 20s or early 30s
The culture around weed is completely fricked. You legitmately cannot talk about the bad effects it has on people because theres always some moron who will say OKAY BUT ALCOHOL IS WORSE or somethiing akin to that and think thats a good counter argument.
NTA and i don't smoke anything and i already got memory issues before my 20s and now in my 20s so frick me i guess.
I like that half the replies are seething stoners.
>BROOOOOO I CAN QUIT ANYTIME I WANT
>*gets into harder drugs because weed doesn't doit for him anymore*
>it's not a gateway drug bro
Alcohol is also bad for you
>YOU MUST BE FUN AT PARTIES
I don't like seeing dudes in their 20s with yellow skin because they have alcoholism from college parties and their liver is fricked up, thanks though.
You've never been to a party nor ever known anyone that smoked weed much less did "harder" drugs (and based on your description you'd probably call MDMA or shrooms "hard drugs")
Enjoy your misanthropy
I went to parties in college and smoked weed in college, all you homosexuals ever do is go "BUT PARTIES AND WEED BRO". Kys scum, we will see you drowned in the rivers.
>misanthropy
Implies you are a person, rather than a zombie stoner wandering the streets of san francisco looking for your next hit while getting withdrawal shakes.
>You've never been to a party nor ever known anyone that smoked weed
Please enlighten us then. What does a group of stoners do besides getting into fights or having sex?
>getting into fights
Fricking hell, he's right, you've never actually met a stoner.
I have! Their teeth are all fricked up.
>anti-druggay is British
lmao
He's joking about meth mouth. At least I sure hope he's joking.
All druggays are british
You're thinking of a crackhead. That's like comparing a football player and a water polo player, because "they're both sports, right?"
I have never had a fight amongst stoners or heard of stoners being roughhousers.
Most of the time when I smoke dope with others its because im catching up with some old coworkers from the warehouse. We talk about drama, how shit has been, vidya gaems, anything really. Chicago Billy will sometimes call and that can be 40 minutes of him going full /LULZ/ over how the random c**ts he pokes off of tinder aren’t marriage material or if he’s been hanging out with his muslim friends 40 minutes of how awful the Quaran is.
Getting him into reading philosophy was a mistake on my part, but at least he’s actually reading instead of reposting little dark age edits to me like a homosexual.
A perception that pierces. Eyes above the rest, you see a burning fire above the great mountain lesser men claim they can climb. Truly inspired and utterly amaranthine.
Liked and subbed my dude.
bruh
They really work like clockwork, and theyre so sensitive too
Anyone who makes their entire personality around a single thing especially a boring ass substance weren’t all that great people to begin with, if it wasn’t weed it’d be alcohol or funko pops or some shit
Ah yes, that's much worse than liver failure and getting actual brain damage from alcohol.
>Weed doesn't give you brain damage
Not to mention the anxiety and mood swings it gives to some
My posts are solid proof that weed can give you brain damage
Still better than the liver damage alcohol gives to everyone.
Absolutely delusional
This, but for all drugs.
Yeah, my little cousin was like that. She'd seem normal but then all of a sudden she'd start flipping out and wouldn't say anything but "my diazepam! my diazepam!". She'd even start throwing a fit and thrashing around on the floor cause she just goooootta have her drug I guess. Anyway RIP but but it's sad to see.
>more twitter girl screeching
Many such cases!
I don't get it
sleep dreams are surreal
Metaphorically, dreams are your ambitions, desires and hopes.
Literally, dreams are usually stupid nonsense.
His literal dreams came true.
ACAB
Is the weed drinking booze?
I hate weed because I’m an ugly Incel outcast who never got to experience having friends to smoke with
>this is what weed smokers actually believe
actual children
I’m telling the truth. I know why you’d think I’m baiting and making a character but I’m actually just a self hating freak and I’m saying fact
I've been there. Zero thoughts. More a piece of the furniture than a person.
I think the fact that weed isn't an immediate physical health risk is fooling a lot of smokers into thinking there's no risk at all
Aside from many documented psychological risks, weed is just bad for a culture, it makes people into slow, lazy bastards who are content with being slow lazy bastards who do nothing but remind the world that they smoke
It shouldn't be illegal, but it should be VERY stigmatized
Mmm. I wonder how different history would have gone if instead of tobacco, weed was the big cash crop instead.
>Literally describing alcohol
Same. Getting old sucks
I feel like you only ever get high like this a few times and then never again
It just becomes a casual bowl in the morning with coffee and then you frick off and do other shit
Just need to reset your tolerance. I was the point where it would take like 8 full dab rips to feel something, then a few weeks away and I was zooted off a pen hit.
I'm about out of weed and in a state where I can't get anymore, so I'll be feeling that again soon.
Ive been working on it. Ive been smoking a lot less because its been fricking with my memory. I only have the one bowl in the morning and two joints with friends at the end of the day
Thats just the "just started smoking" zoomies. They'll get over it.
Getting high first thing in the morning sure sounds like a healthy habit...
So does a cup of joe you homosexual
>ITT weed smokers coping with the fact that this isn't one of their California gay orgies where everyone thinks that W33D IS SOOO KEEWL BRO, and for the first time in they're life someone tells em it's actually pretty fricking lame
Are you people this easy to trigger when you're high, too, or do you need to take a hit to calm down, you addicted clowns?
with how riled up and defensive they all get when theyre not smoking i wouldnt be surprised if they dont realize how addicted they are
>ITT weed smokers coping with the fact that this isn't one of their California gay orgies where everyone thinks that W33D IS SOOO KEEWL BRO, and for the first time in they're life someone tells em it's actually pretty fricking lame
Alaska, actually.
i bet you think you're an average guy, but you're a loser bro
>y-you just smoke weed and i triggered you!!
nope, just calling a spade a spade
>weed is no worse than booze
What does that say about people who smoke weed as a hobby?
Those are good brownies if you're feeling it in 30 minutes. Also love Marceline's reaction / wanting to catch up.
I gave up weed for my gf, I miss it so much. I was starting to need it to relax so it's probably for the best that I'm realizing that, but gd I could go for some.
If you currently smoke weed, you probably do it almost every day, unless you're in a situation where you literally physically cannot acquire anything
You'll try and argue, try and resist, try and convince me I'm wrong, but you can't lie to yourself because you know the truth and so do I, I know it, I've seen it
Every other drug user will get called an addict if they consume their poison of choice every day, but not you, no, you convinced yourself your drug is different, it's normal to want to do it every day, it's normal to feel awful when you don't consume something you don't need daily, something you never felt before you began consuming it. It's normal. You're normal. It's all those fuddy duddy "haterz" and "partykillers" and "my daaad" who tell you otherwise.
Don't try and lie to me, I know better.
Try and admit the truth to yourself.
I used to be addicted to porn. I’d rather be the most vile methhead than go back to that
I smoke daily, I also am in the process of buying a home to go on my 35 acre property, make 10k+ monthly and have a wife I've been with for 18 years, the mother of my three children.
Why can't you do any of those things and smoke weed every day?
It's because I'm better than you.
Don't try and lie to me, I know better.
Try and admit the truth to yourself.
Hope your 35 acre home comes with a deathbed for when your lungs give out
>delusional weedlet thinks his imaginary life will make him less pathetic
>I smoke daily
>My three children
The only thing worse than a drunktard father is a stoner father. Hope they'll hate you for this and learn from your addiction.
What are you so goddamned upset about?
That people like you are allowed to reproduce.
You can reproduce too, go ahead nobody's stoping you... right? :^)
drunk dads are definitely worse man
I like weed and I only smoke it occasionally with my boys.
>Every other drug user will get called an addict if they consume their poison of choice every day
Booze and caffeine junkies wont.
Nicotine. Anything legal.
>implying moderation
You’re never gonna make it anon.
I only smoke when I'm at a Wedding, Birthday, Wake (never a Funeral), or an Eclipse.
Same rules for Alcohol.
I smoked weed yesterday at a party
it had been over a year since the last time and I have never smoked every day
ruhoh guess you're just making sweeping assumptions
>duuuuude we weed smokers are like, the chillest people evahhh maaaan, you can't bring us down
>"weed bad"
>[IMPOTENT RAGE]
Weed, solely by creating Seth Rogen, has ruined modern cartoons. I hope Reagan comes back and introduces The War on Drugs 2
I read Rogen instead of Reagan and just so you know Seth Rogen leading the war on drugs is a fantastic idea
Seth Rogen using drugs has drastically decreased the cool level and the intake of people I known.
Weed makes you wanna suck penis that's why homos love it
This is also dumb. You're dumb, or possibly high. Also why are all your reaction images yellow?
They're not all me but that's certainly an interesting observation
well i guess we gotta keep the pattern going
ahem
weed is shit
Even taking that into account, where are the cases of people dying from complications related to weed? Or getting into violent altercations? Or killing somebody behind the wheel?
Even when you adjust for the per capita rates, alcohol is still significantly more harmful
I think weed's worst affects are cultural, it makes people docile and lazy
The 80s were the peak of weed use in America, as well as the time when the American government enacted the most assraping laws and amped up the surveillance state because people were sleepwalking thorough life
It makes them content with being worthless and the culture surrounding it is one of complacency
Sure maybe it doesn't immediately give you cancer or cause you liver damage, but it doesn't make you wanna hold any values, do anything or fight for anything, and that's exactly what people in power want
Ok to be fair I can answer that one
Like, 2 nights ago outside my house
>I think weed's worst affects are cultural, it makes people docile and lazy
>The 80s were the peak of weed use in America
I hate to be the whataboutism guy but damn. You kvetch about that of all things, and not the cultural problems attributed to the crack epidemic of the 80s? Or the opioid crisis of today, how's that for "docile and lazy"?
Ofc weed has negative affects both physical and cultural, but people like you seem to single it out disproportionately not because of the examination of the drug's effects objectively, but because of the people it is associated with. Makes no more sense than disliking acid and shrooms due to their association with jobless hippies
>You kvetch about that of all things, and not the cultural problems attributed to the crack epidemic of the 80s? Or the opioid crisis of today, how's that for "docile and lazy"?
because those two are unrelated and aren't the problem discussed itt? people here are saying weed is fine, someone tells them it's not, and they go "ok but whatabout-"
that's like if i told you "dude cocaine is dangerous, remember the coke epidemic of the 50s?" and you respond with "umm but in the 50s people also gave their kids lead toys, how come youre not bothered by that!?" because youre currently doing a line of coke, not a line of lead
its context
Except that the post in
specifically tries to link pot with the rise of the surveillance state of all things, and even now someone is trying to pin modern cultural decline on it
Fricking this, it always boils down to not liking the majority demographic who partakes. There are tons of businessmen and women who smoke but they're always overlooked purely because they don't wear tye dye and drive a van, or are ghetto hoodrats. There's no denying smoking has its downsides, but when someone comes at you like you're some of the lowest of the low for smoking pot it's easy to simply say "I haven't caved in any skulls while on pot, how many people can you say that for about alcohol?" To which it then becomes "NICE DEFLECTION BRO HOW TYPICAL".
It's never about the drug, it's always about the people associated with it, and when that point is made the shoes then on the other foot, maybe you're just a scumbag person who has never had a though that wasn't given to them by someone else, you hate Black folk because daddy always hated Black folk so on and so forth, weed is just a more socially acceptable avenue for you to express those feelings because guess what? Black folk smoke weed.
>There are tons of businessmen and women who smoke but they're always overlooked purely because they
are such an insignificant percent that they make no difference
Plus, I mean, if they're going to use the intolerable tie-dyed hippies as a negative example of weed smokers, the equivalent would be the obnoxious "friendly drunks" who are slurring their speech and yammering an inch from your face about how they're going to "show everyone". There's weirdos for every drug and vice, and most users are normal people. There are probably tons of normal cocaine users who enjoy a little cocaine every so often but don't make it their whole personality. Like you said, it's all just an excuse for prejudice because they need to push someone else down in order to lift themselves up. It's pathetic and childish, but unfortunately it's incredibly common and culturally incentivized.
(me)
To add to this, I'm not trying to convince (you) or anyone ITT that weed is this horrible sin and you should stop using it immediately and forever, I've had me a few and it's fine if you can use it responsibly
But most smokers don't, and they're convinced its 100% safe, that it HAS no ill effects, that it's literally impossible to get addicted, or suffer health problems, especially mental ones, or that it has a cultural affect of any kind. And I just want you people to realize that's not true. Doing something responsibly means knowing the risks, not convincing yourselves that there are none. Look at all the people ITT who are coping hard convincing themselves that "i-it has no risk" "well at least alcohol is much worse" "im not addicted, at leeeast i'm not an alcoholic!" "at least" "at least-" if you have to convince yourself what you're doing is AT LEAST not as bad something else, you've already lied to yourself because it probably has a strong hold on you
Nobody is gonna take your spicy plant away, just calm down about it and admit to yourself you're more reliant than you think you are
Also ffs stop talking about it for like 5 seconds
And shower someday
You could just not hang out and talk to people you have obvious contempt for if you’re so obsessed with respectability politics and presentation.
>"But how does cultural decline affect you PERSONALLY?"
>Cultural decline
Oh, you’re a fricking loser. Got it
>cultural decline
I don't know how much culture you yourself partake in, but I don't see anything around me degrading in any way. Perhaps the issue is your negativity bias and fear of an unknowable future you paint with fears you've learned in your past?
My old man is pushing 80 and still smokes doobies daily. But yes it will, surrounded by family and friends with zero regrets. Thank you for your concern anon. <3
and you'll have a shitty retirement with your tarred lungs
quit it
Here's maybe your problem: because weed is illegal or was until recently in most places, most people who use it aren't in the habit of casually chatting about it IRL. The only people who really do are potheads. From the way you're talking you seem to have gotten the impression they represent the majority of people who ever use it, and you also seem to have some emotional investment in this because stuff like:
>if you have to convince yourself what you're doing is AT LEAST not as bad something else, you've already lied to yourself because it probably has a strong hold on you
isn't a rational claim. This is argumentum ad hominem - the genuine article, not like when someone calls someone else a homosexual and they get mad about it. I use weed a few times a year, at the most still in single digits. I drink far more often. Nicotine I use every day. If I say those are worse, more addictive, more physically damaging, more socially harmful drugs, what say you?
Is that a blunt on Simon's table?
Looks more like Palo Santo
When's the last time you heard about 2 guys getting high and getting into a fight?
When's the last time someone smacked his wife after smoking one joint too many?
Anyone got some 420chan x anti weed girl shipart?
420chan is dead, oh shit
>my thoughts on this entire discussion
I live in the Netherlands. No one here gives a frick if you smoke weed. Just be normal about it and you're good. I've seen little old ladies walk into my local coffeeshop to buy weed, you can't tell they partake just by looking at them.
Americans can't help themselves when it comes to drugs.
>coffeeshop to buy weed
Not from the Netherlands, why would a coffeeshop have weed?
Pretty much this. It was outlawed in the US due to financial reasons, which continued and eventually grew a stigma around weed because of it. Then, at the advent of rock where counter culture started becoming norm, weed skyrocketed off of it and became a counter culture of its very own.
90% of people don't actually give a shit about you smoking recreationally the same way they don't care about you drinking recreationally. The only reason people don't want you smoking weed in public is the same reason people get pissed at you for smoking in public in general. It smells like shit and you're obnoxious about it.
This is now a true crime thread
Whats the verdicts boys, can weed gummis make you kill people?
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If someone played the gummi bear song on loop enough times, perhaps
I’m smoking weed right now actually
Which is worse? Vape or weed?
Is "nicotine high" even a real thing?
IIRC yes, but it's very close to the overdose threshold so don't.
dood nicotine is so relaxing
ignore that it only works because it soothes the anxiety you get from nicotine withdrawal
Yes, and no. Yes in that it does impact you, neurochemically and biologically, it does help to relax you, it does help "focus you", but the impact is like CBD: it's so subtle that it doesn't have a massive impact on most people and so is kind of a scam. Yes, CBD can, in the right forms, be used to soothe pain, and yes, nicotine can help alleviate anxiety and improve mood, but it's just going to put a + on the grade you already have. If you have a D, a D+ might be nice, but it's not going to suddenly make you feel like a C, B, or A. And most products using them are essentially scams. Cigarettes are so addictive because of all the additives they add to the tobacco, like menthol, not because the nicotine is all that good.
Nicotine has been shown to positively impact the formation of long-term memory, which I imagine is why it forms such strong habit-based addictive tendencies. To the point that people quitting even get, like, carrot sticks or toothpicks to chew on, because the habitual action itself has such a massive positive reinforcement from the nicotine. That's why it's historically been associated with people who are studying or working, too, because it helps you to retain info and form positive feedback loops due to how it impacts your brain. It's a hell of a pit to get stuck in.
Yeah, it makes you dizzy and anxious for two minutes and then it goes away
People spend thousands of dollars on cigarettes for this "high"
Vaping is an act reserved for children and homosexuals.
you can vape weed
I'd say weed purely because vape can get you to stop smoking tobacco.
The trick is, what the FRICK is in the vape? Vapes are a method of delivery. Boiling fricking water is a vape.
I would not trust the fricking tobacco companies now that they own much of the vape industry.
Steam is better than smoke but those tobbaco barons would probably like to put wood alcohol or something in there to cut costs or just make cigarettes seem better in comparison.
Weed vapes are safe and heavily tested
Nicotine vapes have pretty much zero regulation and the flavorants are highly toxic. Getting popcorn lung from diacetyl is fricked up
>Weed vapes are safe and heavily tested
source?
It varies state by state but any legal weed shop is going to have their products tested with batch test results online for every product, it's typically a legal requirement put in the state's legalization bill.
yeah, the amount of thc is tested, not all the garbage filler chemicals that vapes are notorious for.
>yeah, the amount of thc is tested, not all the garbage filler chemicals that vapes are notorious for.
That's just wrong.
Dispensary cannabis vapes are as safe as you can get while still putting shit in your lungs.
Street vapes, however, will frickin' kill you. buttholes put vape juice flavors, vit E acetate, menthol, tons of bullshit in there.
The best part is he's probably holding up an Emerald.
Weed is only good when cute girls do it
Everyone else should fricking behave
>caffeine
>alcohol
these aren't drugs, why did you include them?
They are absolutely both drugs.
I used to like getting high and watching shows, but now whenever I smoke I just get hyper negative towards myself and feel like I'm just wasting my life away.
That happened to me when I stopped working. You feel better when you smoke after you've actually accomplished something that day.
Being at a shitty point in life and getting inebriated is not fun, it just makes you hate yourself more
Ironically you're best off getting high or drunk when you're already riding the high of a satisfying and content life
You aren't doing the right drugs.
>but my blogpost
You aren't doing the right drugs.
The only "right" drug you need is coffee.
>needing a drug
Wrong.
>the only "right" drug
Wrong.
>the only right drug
Also wrong.
Sounds like a blast. Hope your nights out are rocking.
>Hope your nights out are rocking.
MDMA was pretty fun, I don't think it's worth feeling weirdly discordant for a week after it though
>Picking up from dealer in college
>Pretty sure he's a skinhead
>He offers me a free 8-ball and some MDMA
>"No thanks I'll stick to the weed"
>He says "Good call, the MDMA is cut with heroin"
that's the nightmare scenario right there
don't do strong shit kids
Why the frick would you cut mdma with heroin that's probably already cut with baby powder? Actually why would you even think to mix those two in the first place? It's like those idiots who mix weed and coke.
Coffee is a slave's drink.
all these mofos hating on tea, but if you're only a slave to the feeling of hot drink in your mouth and not caffeine you will literally not find a better drink
I love having like 8 cups of tea when i sit down to drawgay for a day
>I love having like 8 cups of tea when i sit down to drawgay for a day
F for your bladder.
It's called a healthy circulation of hydration, mkay?
Yup
>if you're only a slave to the feeling of hot drink in your mouth and not caffeine
>I love having like 8 cups of tea
You... know there's caffeine in tea, right?
Not nearly as much caffeine as coffee tardo
>75mg of caffeine per cup of tea instead of 100mg per cup of coffee
>drinking 8 cups
>not nearly as much
Uh yeah dood 15 mg is a cavernous distance
You're only getting 75mg if you're drinking the strongest of black teas or something like mate. Most black teas are somewhere between 40-60mg and almost every other type of tea has even lower amounts of caffeine than that. With green and oolong teas averaging around 30mg and white tea around 15-20.
Unless you are deliberately seeking out caffeinated teas you are getting at max like 50% of the caffeine per cup then you would from coffee.
I don't want to do the right drugs bar an indulgent night out twice a year
Can vouch for screenwriters.
What's your experience with screenwriters?
>be college prof in weed-legal state
>trying to get my class through engineering 1
>5-6 of my students show up completely baked to every lecture and lab
>reeking of skunky weed, talking through lecture, bothering other students
>they're all failing but refuse to drop for financial aid reasons
>half my class has emailed me complaining that it's negatively affecting their ability to take notes, complete activities, etc.
>can't do shit it because university has completely stripped our ability to kick out disruptive students
>admins are more concerned about school getting sued by a disruptive student who has campus police called on them than they are about the disruptions
frick dudeweedbros
>engineering prof
give tips. Mechanics is fricking killing me.
Where are you running into issues?
>can't do shit it because university has completely stripped our ability to kick out disruptive students
Damn, I shouldnt be surprised but of fricking course. That would be excluding possible pee oh cees that are too stupid to actually keep up with normal people
Why has the university taken away your ability to kick students out tf? Did they get too many protests
Also >college prof
Nice to know that some people on Cinemaphile are actually human beings with a successful life instead of gooning goblins in their mothers basement. One day I hope to advance from the latter to the former
>Why has the university taken away your ability to kick students out tf? Did they get too many protests
No, university admins just tend to be run by reactive morons. They see a handful of stories about students suing their school after getting kicked out of class (usually justifiably so) and freak out and say "shit! well we better make sure that never happens!"
>successful life
Meh, let's not suck my dick too hard. I've got a job, that's about it.
NTA but college professor in engineering i wouldn't call that bad, at least in terms of what you know and what you can do, don't know the pay.
Wouldnt most cases of students unreasonably suing universities for being rightfully kicked out be thrown out of court? Thought universities had armies of lawyers
>successful life
Hey, I dont have a job, a car and havent finished school even though im an adult. So compared to me youre doing a lot better
>Wouldn't most cases of students unreasonably suing universities for being rightfully kicked out be thrown out of court?
Probably, and I'm sure most are - but the admins have their buttholes clenched so hard over the fear of 'what if' that they're willing to frick shit up completely or throw people under the bus over things.
>be college prof in weed-legal state
Professor at CC isn't a real profession.
Edgay here. Have your students complain up the chain of command to the dean, the president and threaten to have them take it up to regents/chancelor's office. Save documentation that you're getting complaints from studens, and that you've sent it up the chain.
Offer remote learning to the potheads.
>Reactive.
Exactly. They need to be afraid of bad publicity from the other students. Students who get drug tested as part of work and students with things like breathing disabilities.
t. dealt with competing ADA claims "I need fricking weed" , "inhaling the secondhand dank triggers a asthma attack". Also tenured so I don't have to deal with that adjunct bullshit you have to.
If you REALLY want to play hardball, you can make your own OSHA or ADA or hostile work environment claim.
>weed gets mentioned in any context
>300 posts of seething Americans
I'll never understand why you people are so obsessed with it. Both the people who use it and the people who don't seem so completely emotionally invested in it that it's ridiculous to beholkd from an outside perspective.
It's because blacks used it back when it was still called reefer and whites hated them for being black, so they made it illegal to frick with black people. But by then the white youths had caught on to the cool black scene and started using it too, making the old whites at the time hate the blacks that much more as they just kept doubling down on making it illegal and demonizing it in the media to the point where "weed = YOU ARE GOING TO HELL" became a cultural norm here in America. That mentality caused a lot of other problems along the way too and wasn't just a response to reefer madness.
Loads of other stuff happened, but it all boils down to spiting young people for acting rebellious.
Anyway, weed. Never done it. Never really wanted to do it. Don't care if other people are doing it so long as they aren't operating motor vehicles and I don't have to clean up after them.
>I'll never understand why you people are so obsessed with it.
as far as i undertand, it's like coming of age. when a gringo hits sixteen he must build their entire lifestyle around one drug
Dude, it's this or alcohol for most of us. Neither are a big deal and we should be allowed to enjoy them at our discretion while still in compliance with common sense laws.
but we don't give some sort of personality to potheads. in my country the idea of someone smoking everyday is not associated with some sort of lifestyle.
this entire discussion is alien to me.
me as well, in fact neither weed nor alcohol are very common where I live. We have other drugs
Classic
Forgot the fricking link God damnit
?feature=shared
kek, hadn't seen that one
That's a classic
Probably the absolute peak of the niche genre.
I miss those videos tbh
jesus my fricking sides
ENTER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbwx9mv9q34
Anyone got silly stories from Weed Adventures?
Dumb question because most people here will lie in a bed or couch when they get stoned but I alongside my troglodyte friends do the utter opposite and go on a fricking adventure.
>Be me
>With a group of 3 close friends
>Probably made like 3 fat blunts and 2 really large ones
>Went to the central park of the town in like 11 pm
>Smoked the ever living shit out of two joints
>Were about to chill in the benches when suddenly one of them goes
>"Up, Up, Up. Lets go on a adventure brutha."
>Everyone got up to my dismay
>"Where do we go to?"
>"To the 24/7 food store"
>About to go down the main road, we saw the police
>Tried to act normal at first but they stopped
>As soon they tried to lower the cars window, We sprinted and dispersed.
>We dispersed before they could chase us
>I went and run to the train tracks, falling several times before I arrived to the bridge.
>I remained hidden under the bridge for like 10 minutes
>One of my friends calls me
>I ask if they're alright and they tell me they just barely made it out
>I ask them If they're all there
>Only one missing
>"Frick"
>Wanted to regroup with my friends and search for the missing one
>I was walking down the outer roads of the town
>I see the missing friend eating two sandwiches
>"Motherfricker where were you?"
>"To the 24/7 food store"
>This guy fled the police
>hid in the food store
>bought some food
>Went all the way to the outer parts of the city to eat some sandwiches
>But he also bought two sandwiches for each one of us
>Called the other friend group where they were
>They were at a gas station literally 10 kilometers away
>Had to walk that entire road to get to them
>Upon arriving they just stare at me and say
>"We got four more blunts bro"
Cool story, did you guys also talk about the other times you'd smoked weed together?
Every time I hear someone talk about weed smokers like their some smelly scooby doo parody I assume they very rarely socialize. Most people you meet that smoke weed you can't actually tell.
Edibles don't leave a smell.
>Most people you meet that smoke weed you can't actually tell.
Most people who smoke weed think they don't stink (they do.)
I guarantee the majority of the people you've met who smoke weed you had now idea.
Depends on how much I'm exposed to them. If it's a chance meeting with just some stranger or something (which isn't frequent for me if I'm honest) then you might be right.
However when it comes to neighbors or friends of friends? It becomes pretty apparent pretty quick. Particularly neighbors around where I live since in my city it's been decriminalized. Technically the building I'm in is supposed to be smoke-free but more than a couple people just ignore that.
>SIR leaves Cinemaphile because it became an unfunny porn addict shithole
>still comes back to appease Cinemaphile with another unfunny new years comic
I lost all respect for him when he reappeared. He should have stayed gone and let the DYEL invel board starve
he didn't do a New Years comic this year though
I coulda sworn he did.
I never understood why leftists want to normalize the drugs and cannabis consumption so much, specially when it's been demonstrated that it's consumption affects negatively the correct function and development of brain cells, specially on adolescents and young adults.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/
Also it's use across the history by different groups of criminals and mass murderers to make them desensitized of violence like Nazaris or hashashins
Idk any leftist who doesn't want cannabis regulated and kept out of the hands of children. What a dumb fricking thing to say.
Isn't Finn literally a teenage for most part of the show?
Anyway if they didn't wanted kids to do drugs then why use cartoons aimed at children to promote it's use and show how "cool it is"?
>Isn't Finn literally a teenage for most part of the show?
Yeah, and when yo you think most people get into drugs and alcohol?
Same reason they used all those cartoons aimed at children to promote cutting the throats of their parents and jerk off over their bodies, I guess.
>I never understood why leftists want to normalize the drugs and cannabis consumption so much, specially when it's been demonstrated that it's consumption affects negatively the correct function and development of brain cells, specially on adolescents and young adults.
They want to turn people's brains to one single mushy consistency so they can homosexually rape adolescent males without resistance like Jeffrey Dahmer tried with corrosive acid.
Or it's nothing to do with wanting people to use more drugs and it's an easily researched subject that if you genuinely cared about you could inform yourself on easily, if you have any more intelligence than a wooden post. I mean frick me, the youngest generation of leftists are such squares a lot of them won't even drink alcohol.
You're thinking of libertarians wanting to remove regulations and legal ages of all kinds.
>Also it's use across the history by different groups of criminals and mass murderers to make them desensitized of violence like Nazaris or hashashins
Considering how lethargic it makes people i'm surprised they got out of bed to carry out assasinations at all, probably why they got wiped out in the end
Drinkers and smokers should be treated as equivalent to murderers.
rich murderers or poor murderers?
yes
i have a dry herb vape thats pretty cool, you load it like a bong but its a lot easier to pull, its an expensive first buy but it saves u bud in the long one
If you're worried about savings you're doing it wrong. Good whisky, good tobacco, good pot, if I can't afford it I don't do it.
Wouldn't Jake want to stay sober so he could help Finn ride out his high?
Jake knows he can do that while high.
Yes, all those things are fine in moderation. But moderation just means without being excessive, and for many thing, such as genocide, even just once is excessive.
>1488
>watermark
>false analogy
The other ones are bad because they harm other people.
At worst, weed only harms the person using it.
Don't bother. Quentin is a known anti-drug tripgay from Cinemaphile.
He was truly ahead of the curve
I think whoever made this is mad his mommy took his oregano
I mean technically genocide in moderation is just ethnic cleansing or war crimes. Its why Turkey and Japan are coping, none of them (except the really moronic) are saying that not a single Armenian or Korean was killed, they are saying that it was just standard war time atrocities and that it doesnt reach the level of genocide, because if they admitted genocide the UN would make them pay reparations.
So yes you can literally genocide in moderation.
Japan's objective wasn't to kill all the koreans. It was to make them all Japanese, like Okinawa an Hokkaido.
>t.Nip
full cultural erasure and assimilation like that is considered a form of genocide
>full cultural erasure and assimilation like that is considered a form of genocide
So, you are saying that White genocide is real. right?
No
It’s the opposite
Considering
How many
Immigrants
Become Americanized
FGT
nta but that seems more self-inflicted you know? Also nobody is outlawing european languages
>outlaw
LEGALIZE IT
DONT CRITICIZE IT
only if you by default accept the premise that "whiteness" is the "normal" setting and anything not-white is a stain on that, so I guess if you're a white supremacist than sure
Its funny how leftists believe this as well, what with them seeing "whiteness" as the boring default and every other culture as zoo animals to be protected. Guess horseshoe theory is real
it rEaLLy mAkeS yOu ThiNK
I mean complete cultural conquest like that is still a bad thing even if you dont think it reaches the degree of genocide. Same as the Ottoman empire hiring turkish, arab, kurdish, chechen, circassian (and in some cases armenian) warbands to expel the Armenian and Assyrian citizenry from Anatolia and Mesopotamia because they were sympathetic to the Russians and kill any stragglers and starve them in the Syrian desert and destroy their culture is still bad even if it doesnt technically reach genocide.
Yeah…Turks are c**ts. I steeped one the other day in my garage eeeeeeh
nah turks are based, wipe out minorities who annoy you
>Japan's objective wasn't to kill all the koreans. It was to make them all Japanese... by killing them
I miss quentin
So sad someone convinced him to try injecting a weed just once and he died instantly.
I mean I honest to god think you CAN "rob in moderation". Like if you steal one hershey's candy bar a month I think, relatively, no harm will be done.
Five bucks a month is how I see it.
>all the morons replying to this
quentin is truly evergreen, these mongs are eternal bait-fodder
dried pepper dank
they're just mad because you have a tool for accessing temporary but genuine happiness, something they try hard every day to brush at and are denied because it's not profitable to allow the public to be happy. You've got the ability to smoke a little weed and watch old spongebob squarepants episodes on youtube and have a wonderful afternoon and they're angrily doomscrolling and being so upset by "the libs" that they shit their pants. It's sad, honestly. Their souls are constipated.
>You've got the ability to smoke a little weed and watch old spongebob squarepants episodes on youtube
are you reading my internet history or something? how do you know so much about me?
i'm in the goddamned WALLS
oh noes ;~; pls be a nice wall person
oh absolutely, just make sure to come a little closer to that hole i made in the wall.
a little closer.
a little closer.
im lazy u can come to me
>You've got the ability to smoke a little weed and watch old spongebob squarepants episodes on youtube and have a wonderful afternoon
I will say this:
There’s nothing better than watching a cartoon/anime when heavily intoxicated.
Like one time after work in the parking lot my manager at Panera let me hit a weed pen, the strain was a strong, I believe it was called Jack.
Anyway, on the drive home I began eating entire orange scones one by one and I began to see visions of cartoons. I then found myself watching the ape scene in 2001 at a parking lot, then I went home and began watching Fooly Cooly and it somehow made the anime even better, it just looked weirder, but strangely it felt more alive, like these weren’t anime characters but rather actual actors in a movie. The best part is, unlike with drinking alcohol where you feel like shut in the morning, I felt like a million bucks in the morning, fricking love weed
Might as well post some BLAZE IT FGT maments in animation
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Not gonna reply to the whole thread but here's my two cents.
I tried weed when I was 18. It respec'd all my stat points into charisma. Within 2 years I'd beaten my anxiety and gotten laid. I'll readily admit it's a dependency now 11 years later, but it's the lesser evil. The alternative was either being one of you lugubrious morons or killing myself 3 years ago
If you view getting high as an activity you're a hopeless loser
I live my life by this comic and it’s never failed me
was gonna make love to you but then I got high (ooh) (I'm serious)
I was gonna eat your pussy too (ohhh) but then I got high
Now I'm jackin' off (BWAHHHHHHHHH) and I
Know why (turn this shit off, ha ha ha)
Cause I’m high, because I’m high, because I’m high
You need to calm down bro. Have another beer.
>Beer
Ewwwww, that stuff fricks up you liver and destroys your life aka: you become a typical Russia
They need a magic tolerance reset pill or something and things will be perfect
I wish death on all stoners and drunktards.
The only drug that should be legal is coffee. Anything else should be outlawed. The narcotics industry and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Chill FGT, have a toke, light up a smoke, don’t choke, have a coke, tell a joke, ya dig?
Don't you have another gangbang party to attend to, druggy?
Sorry duuuuuude, but your moms not there today
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAH
smoke weed everydayyy
This is now an opiumchad thread, stonerhomosexuals and alcuckolds btfo
Fookin
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ffMM-ek9YlQ
No lie if opioids weren’t the worst drugs in the world, I would gladly puff these fricking things
Oh yeah man, full CHADMAXXED over here. None of that PUSSY SHIT.
Booze ends up being worse damage wise, both while abusing and when trying to get off. I only say this because booze is also totally legal in most parts of the world.
Precisely. Why are you such a pussy? Take the opium pill
Fixed.
fxed that for you
I've never seen a stoner that wasn't a mentally ill moron with anger issues.
So I guess my cousins and my brother are fricking anomalies.
They're not, since they smoke weed mental illness is a given. Imagine needing to slowly kill your brain as the only way to be happy.
>they're not, since they smoke weed mental illness is a given. Imagine needing to slowly kill your brain as the only way to be happy.
Great fricking way outing yourself as a depressed frick who can't understand that even happy people need to take the edge off in this stressful world. They're all younger then me and yet are gonna finish collage before me and be more successful. I'm lonely compared too them and I for sure have more mental issues then them, I'm still not over my high school crush, I'm a troony and (my doctors know about this) I have pedophilia.
>I'm a troony and I have pedophilia.
Average stoner everyone
I don't smoke, I hate the taste. More of an alcohol guy.
You're a troll is what you are, nobody would out themselves as a troony paedophile to score a point.
Not a troll, just don't like people who hate drugs for stupid reasons. I did debate putting in the pedophilia part (could have gone with some other awful shit I have like vore), it's just a part of me that I really hate. It's just there for some reason, at odds with the person I want to be. I wish I could erase it from my mind.
I had a single gummy once (not sure what the dosage was). I know how Puss in Boots felt during that one scene.
I guess first time is always the hardest, I felt like I was in a rollercoaster, I could feel like wind touching my face even though I was indoors watching a boring as frick movie.
>Jews are still pushing the "umm weed is acktully good for you!" psyop
>In 2023
Pushing the "um it's the WORST thing for you" narrative is equally disingenuous. At worst it makes you lazy and unambitious and nearly every other recreational drug on the market including alcohol is more detrimental physically and mentally by leaps and bounds. The modern argument in its entirety is just the sixty year old story of red-blooded conservatives vs floaty stoner hippies, more than half a century later and the only thing that's changed is half the arguments are made in memes now.
It not being nearly as bad for you as alcohol is also honestly besides the point if you're trying to make a legal argument.
The practical legal argument is that, much like alcohol, it's simply too popular and too easy to produce to effectively prohibit. Attempts at prohibition merely invigorates the black market and drains tax income both by reducing the size of the legal economy and by spending money on enforcement and jail stays.
Did the temperance league invade Cinemaphile or is everyone just trolling the stoners?
news flash: tons of cults use temperance as a control measure or recruiting tactic and /misc/ is right here
There's a reason the term straight-edge is associated with skinheads.
When I was a kid I avoided weed because it was something kids I didn't like did at parties and so I associated it with them - when I got older I realized "hey, wait, buttholes like good things too, I can't deny myself something because some dickhead also likes it"
Had great fun smoking like mad in college and now I use pens to treat my auto-immune pain and discomfort.
It's really weird to see kids today get tricked into going from a vague dislike of what the popular kids do to weird culty shit like nofap or straight-edge
Imagine smoking weed or drinking alcohol when you could be doing opium or crack
>dooood i need it for my health issues i swear!
well the funny thing about that is that you're not wrong that that's used as an excuse to get high recreationally, but that's ignoring that a lot of that "man, everybody would want to get high and do nothing" is a manifestation of chronic stress and anxiety that has become so normalized we no longer even call it that. A healthy person WANTS to do stuff and be a part of something bigger than themselves and to care for other people, and all the casual cruelty and cynicism and selfishness that you perceive as a normal default for humanity is the sociocultural equivalent of vomiting up blood. You just think that being filled with tumors is normal, and EVERYONE vomits up blood, and wanting not to vomit up blood is wishful thinking pipe dreams, and actually it's morally righteous to vomit up blood, et cetera.
Damn you're so right.
Directly relevant.
https://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comic/rat-park/
Glad someone else posted rat park. It's really interesting into the functions of addiction from a social level. What I found interesting was that rats with normal enrichment socially and physically would simply leave it, even if they were already hooked on it.
Truly, we are all rats living in a rat park
>What I found interesting was that rats with normal enrichment socially and physically would simply leave it, even if they were already hooked on it.
Problem with humans is that even completely removed from all external factors, abusing drugs fricks up your life and puts you into a position where you're more likely to want to do them to feel better.
It's a problem that causes itself.
Replace drugs with anime and this applies to humans
Why are stoners always sexual deviants
I didn’t want the thread to be like this …
It's not your fault anon, shitters gotta shit
>Make a thread glorifying degeneracy
>Wonder why Cinemaphile hates it
>Make a thread glorifying degeneracy
Do you know which website you're posting on?
The one that abhors the real world, personalities, and politics. If you did not come here for perspectives divorced from people and their bias then you came here to jerk off. Any other reason and you're just an butthole out of place.
>but what about all those homosexuals that are just liek me?!1?
Yeah, I noticed. Go b***h on your blog about it.
>The one that abhors the real world, personalities, and politics. If you did not come here for perspectives divorced from people and their bias
The end result is not some space of free-thinking and constructive discourse, it just becomes a seedbed for different kinds of biases, given the posts ITT just using the topic to feel superior over filthy druggies
Sans moderation it would be the case regardless, as I said, b***h about it on your blog.
>ITT bitter incels who've never hung out with potheads for longer than 5 cumulative minutes try to get a hit of dopamine by baiting someone into replying to their schizophrenic manbaby ad hominem
Thanks for the insight anon, i'll keep this in mind going forward with this thread.
Doing GODS work anon. See ya at church!
>who've never hung out with potheads for longer than 5 cumulative minutes
Who would have the patience to last longer than that without murdering them?
Only loosers use drugs.
looser than what
stupid pothead cannot even read.
You mean stoopid, stupid.
You guys need to chill
>comes into thread telling people what to do
Could you fricking slow your god damn roll dude? Like holy frick. Who the frick are you dude? Holy shit are you being fricking serious right now?
Trying to toke up on these phat drug stats and your weird ass has to stumble on in like you're part of fricking NARC or some shit.
>won't be back until 2025
Why? This place is already unbearable as is.
Hey I remember that meme
holy shit i miss 420chan
Yes. Man what happened to the Cinemaphile that was about taking piss out of edgy homosexuals and not pretending to be them
the facial expression makes it look like she either was smoking weed in the school bathroom or rubbing one out in the school bathroom
you fricking coward, it's both
in my defense, i never jerked it high. i wouldn't know how it feels or if it numbs the sensations.
>numbs the sensations
Quite the opposite, busting while high feels pretty great.
Why does she have a giant bong on her back?
It's an allegory for monkey on my back, which back in the old timey days was a reference to addiction and its negative effects
She's always carried it on her back.
At least post some drug PSA cartoons or something.
Found a new reaction image
It is a self-deception of philosophers and moralists to imagine that they escape decadence by opposing it.
That is beyond their will; and, however little they acknowledge it, one later discovers that they were among the most powerful promoters of decadence.
I wish the entire discourse about weed and drugs in general wasn't so dishonest from both sides.
Fear campaigning from the government made potheads and other drug enjoyers just go full force against what the goobernmemt told them to be true and won't accept any criticism towards their drug.
There are real dangers which should be taken seriously with every drug. You can become addicted to ANY drug. Just handwaiving these things is just as dishonest as the fear campaigning.
>You can become addicted to ANY drug
depends heavily on what you mean by addiction
a large part of the discourse being so muddy is conflation and poor definitions
Being dependent on alcohol to not get the shakes or needing methadone to not die is not the same as being irritable when you stop smoking weed
I think both are addictions and to the normal person who never dives deeper into these things that would also be true.
Sure you can dig real deep into what the definition of "addiction" truly holds but having a physical dependancy to just function normally (the shakes) and being irritable when you stop smoking weed (mental addiction/habitual addiction) are both just another form of the same thing.
I honestly think that when you have to dive so deep into a semantics argument that its just not intellectually honest. When we say "addiction" this is what most people understand by that.
>I think both are addictions
That's the problem...
They both fit under a very vague umbrella while being very different things. They are not at all the same, but they are conflated as if they are. This is both a common mistake by amateur debaters and a common tactic of disingenuous proselytizers.
>They're another form of the same thing
No, they're really not. Not conceptually or physically. That's the point. They're just called the same thing.
>By trying to establish operational definitions instead of accepting wanton conflation you're intellectually dishonest
Haha holy shit
Get fricked moron
>if we make a semantics argument, that makes me right
You never talk to actual people, do you anon, all of your arguments are online and usually are both sides trying to play a sort of logical "gotcha" game with one another.
Its pretty sad to see reddit level of argumentation everywhere nowadays
But sure buddy, you can have won this one if its so important to you
>You're making a semantic argument!
I'm pointing out your faulty conflation you tool.
The physical difference between life-threatening chemical dependency and desiring consumption is extremely relevant to the topic.
You're a fricking moron, my dude.
kind of a long way of saying "you're right"
>physical dependency vs. mental/habitual addiction
This is neither a deep semantic dive nor an airy-fairy distinction without relevance to the treatment of addiction.
There are no dangers to weed. Like, there are actually lots of benefits to it, even. It’s been proven to, uhm, kill? certain kinds of like cancer, y’know.
I just took a bunch of edibles and reading this thread is awesome.
jake is a fricking dog wouldn't a brownie kill him
>not staying sober and helping your friend ride it out as he curls up with a podcast on the floor and shakes for two hours
Bad form jake, bad form
>his friend is a pussy ass b***h homie fool
Could not be me.
>as he curls up with a podcast on the floor and shakes for two hours
zamn what kinda weed he got
>zamn what kinda weed he got
i dunno about that anon, but i got an edible with me home from a college party, ate half of it and spent the night in the bathroom watching youtube videos as my last cling to reality and creeping anxiety
I also felt a tinge of anxiety off a couple of puffs from a dewbie, i think some people just default to anxiety attacks when they partake in dudeweed
Inhaled cannabis hits the brain as delta 9 thc
Eaten cannabis goes through the liver first and hits the brain as 11-hydroxy-thc
Different drugs. Different effects.
11-hydroxy-thc is much more sedating and intoxicating than delta 9 thc
Where my daily datura microdose chads at
Now, why chose to intentionally have a fricked up time anon?
Did you know that there are anesthetics so strong that they numb you to all these small chronic pains you develop as you grow old? Not major pains, but stuff you don't think about getting used to as you grow up, like the weight distribution in your bones, muscles that are sore from always being in use, even your heart beat and blood pumping. People report coming back from those anesthetics having to relearn getting used to those small pains again. People just get used to pain, physically, but psychologically too. People with hard lives - not destructive, just difficult- can end up handling stress much better than others who've had an easier time up until some disaster.
So imagine if every day you subject yourself to a little more pain, fear, suffering, not enough to break you, but enough to get used to it.
You ever walk in the woods at night with no fear in your heart? Now that's a high worth having.
yo what movie looks sick
Finn would be covered in vomit at that point
I prefer moderated alcohol intake.
if getting high feels like how it does when you're trying to read something in a dream, i want no part of it
How does that feel
confusing, futilely trying to get your bearings as the world constantly shifts around you
imagine turning around in a room and see that all the furniture behind you has been replaced and moved around
sounds fun
You're perfectly welcome not to get high but why are you speculating about it based on your dreams?
it's the closest thing i can compare it to.
Cannabis I think is technically a hallucinogen, but normal recreational use doesn't produce hallucinogenic or delusory effects - if you've ever been drunk, that's a much closer comparison than a dream, although it's still not particularly similar.
The first time I ever smoked weed, I had psychedelic visions of a red-and-white checkered world made of buckles and velcro, approaching DMT-like hallucinations. I have never had that effect happen again. I've done psychedelics including DMT and other hallucinogens like salvia and deleriants like Benadryl (don't do Benadryl) and hypnotics like Fly Agaric and they all felt different than that first weed trip. very strange
This phenomenon of having psychedelic effects during the first weed experience and then never again is somewhat common too
>This phenomenon of having psychedelic effects during the first weed experience and then never again is somewhat common too
I never had anything like psychedelic effects the first time I took weed or any other time, but it wasn't the first drug I took, which I suspect it was for most people (I mean after the obvious ones). I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
>I've done... Benadryl (don't do Benadryl)
Hahaha, I've been super poor and miserable too.
>SIR
I like the contrast between Jake's "oh crap" face and Marceline's "hahaha oh wow" expression.
clearly the solution is to only drink water, and only eat what is necessary nutrition and nothing more.
yes and then you can go dig your grave and sleep in it in a sleeping bag, because won't that be so convenient, since people statistically tend to die in their sleep more nowadays? Man, when you render down human experience down to the purely efficient and logical, this shit is easy!
>not drinking alcohol is akin to literally dying
Man alcoholics are something
learn how to read. I didn't say "not consuming intoxicants is the same as dying" I said "denying yourself the pleasures of the flesh and reducing your every interaction to the purely necessary is a recipe for depression and isolation, and you might as well already be dead". But go off, I guess. You c**t.
Man that's some cope backtracking. What causes this. More then 2-3 drinks a week?
boy you can just throw any armchair psychology terms you like at the wall and just see what sticks, huh? You gonna call something "projection"? You going to refer to social darwinism and "evolutionary incentive"? Pop psych nonsense designed to make you seem ever-so-slightly-smarter than the people reading your comment, but doesn't actually match the content being discussed?
I didn't "cope backtrack" anything. I explained exactly what I said, again, because you have a learning disability, and now you have to recontextualize it in order to seem like you're still right. You're a fricking child.
Oof, buzzwords just 5 words in. Can anyone translate this into english?
>Oof, buzzwords just 5 words in.
If you read their post to the end, you'd be proving him right.
Huh. Well, I guess I'll never know what about
the most environmentally-conscious thing you can do is have a nice day
That's my slightly-less-sarcastic-than-it-should-be pitch for cannibalism. Like, obviously the answer isn't *actually* cannibalism, but it's important philosophically to recognize that in our current context we literally are the number one threat to the planet. That doesn't mean we need to die off, ecofascists are short-sighted morons, but it's necessary to understand as one of the tiny watch-gears in your understanding of the world and our place in it.
Honestly I just wanted to see what the response to that was, and I was not disappointed.
The worst part of marijuana is insomnia if you try to cut back
I never got this. Weed brownies always taste gross as hell to me, I can't imagine eating several without realizing they're weed brownies.