I've been thinking about how everyone acts like Miguel is some incompetent asshole who just jumped to conclusions.

I've been thinking about how everyone acts like Miguel is some incompetent butthole who just jumped to conclusions. And I feel like the only reason they feel that way is because Miles is refusing to accept what he's saying. And the audience is predisposed to assume he's correct. But miles has almost no understanding of the situation and is acting purely put of emotion. He has no counter plan for the off chance he might be wrong. And we really have no idea how long Miguel has tried any and every contingency before he figured out what he's doing. We just have to assume he wildly jumped to conclusions and he's just wrong. It's a trolley problem and everyone's just saying "don't worry. The train was never gonna hit anyone.

Honestly I'm hoping the moral of the story in the sequel is just "You can't save everyone." Cuz otherwise it's just the story of "why Miguel is a bad Spider-Man."

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    skidmark '''movie'''

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >And the audience is predisposed to assume he's correct
    It's this and the fact that I have no reason to assume they are planning to subvert the expectations that Miles is correct.
    So I can safely assume Miguel is an impotent strawman.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >a year later

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    He's right about black people since the first 3 to betray him were black

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yep. Miles needs to learn he can't save everyone, no matter how much he tries.
    But they won't do that, instead Miles will prove them wrong and show himself to be the bestest Spider-Man ever.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >We just have to assume he wildly jumped to conclusions and he's just wrong
    we are shown both by this Miguel's history and what happens in spider-indias world that if you mess with whats fated to happen (i.e "canon events") by introducing 3rd party, multiversal, factors (i.e miles saving captain pajeet stacy and this miguel taking the dead miguels place and preventing things from happening by there being a spider-man 2099) it will destroy that universe.
    its the same rules as time travel, you can't learn what happens and then mess with the events because you could frick up the future in some way, it's just that fricking up the future in the spider-verse movies results in the fabric of reality unwinding.
    i dont get why people are still confused on this over a year later lol.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's frustrating cuz when I bring that up people just go "oh that's because of the Spot! It's definitely not because Miguel is right!" Its so frustrating arguing with people because they'll grasp at straws for why Miguel is wrong and ignore any evidence to the contrary as circumstantial.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Was this movie's whole story around Miguel and the Spider society really written out of spite for miles haters like people claim?

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Miles needs correction and Miguel is the one to do it.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >the audience is predisposed to assume he's correct.

    The audience is pre-disposed to not just fricking letting a loved one die because the multiversal council decides that is what is supposed to happen. Its all a bunch of man versus fate garbage.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The issue is that we, and Miles, are given direct evidence that his goal is not only futile, it will kill everyone else.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        We are also given evidence that Miguel is bullshit by virtue of knowing his origin and the fact that it has none of these moronic canon events.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I still find it funny that the plot of this film is
    >Interdimensional superhero organization plans to kill a cop as they believe a Black Kid having a father is a universal irregularity

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      To this day I'm bugged by the fact that that the natural conclusion to being able to access the multiverse isn't DON'T FRICKING DO IT. The only thing you ever get from it is some dipshit looking for a universe where their trauma didn't happen, or some frick deciding some new universe is good for conquest or eating.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It only takes one butthole to ruin a good thing for everyone.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I know that he doesn't have an Uncle Ben figure, I know that Ben wasn't bitten by a spider, I therefore know that these canon events are bullshit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I also know that at least one of these bozos has a Reed Richards that they can go ask about this multiverse shit and get actual answers about.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Miguel is working on a theory, not fact. He's still reasonable though

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It is utterly ludicrous that the universe is so easy to unravel.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    no one is spider-man if everyone is spider-man

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I’d be fine with the “you can’t save everyone” plotline if it wasn’t tie around canon events aka the dumbest shit around

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